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Proposed Q&A site for this site is for any part of Trolling. For those who want to prevent trolling, design systems that discourage trolling, or for people who want to successfully troll others.

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3:31 AM
@animuson I am disappoint.
 
I just spent about half an hour investigating the lack of Gravatars everywhere I looked. Turned out I had Ghostery misconfigured to block them.
 
\o/
 
4:16 AM
Well don't you just feel silly.
I was taught not to believe in ghosteries.
I mean ghost stories.
I heard a ghost story one time.
But it mostly ended up being about spoons.
 
4:46 AM
All the IT contractors at my work have the same job title (Contractor-Professional), so I don't think about it much. However, I looked at my employee record on my employer's (staffing agency) portal. Looks like my job title is "Application Developer - Senior." I feel like I owe @Bart and @Oded an apology =P
 
4:59 AM
lmao
I want a title. Last time I had a title it was an exaggeration.
 
5:16 AM
@TCPMAN.EXE What was it?
 
@jadarnel27 'Software Architect'
Really I've always been 'Guy who we assign tasks we have no idea how to do to.'
I guess that's kind of architecty.
Except they gave that title to everyone at the time.
Something about being able to charge more.
 
@TCPMAN.EXE That sounds about right haha.
 
6:16 AM
Can I un-discard a question draft somehow? I accidentally closed the wrong tab...
Ok, rewrote it.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:33 AM
@jadarnel27 "And that's when the ugly duckling discovered he was really a beautiful douchebag of a swan."
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2 hours later…
10:00 AM
Hello,

Does this require mods attention?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19312715/how-to-store-an-file-locally-and-access-it-through-app

User with 2 diff accounts. Asks question with account1 having low rep, cannot upload images. Upvotes this question with account2 (I think) adds screenshot from account2 and probably accepts this edit with account1. This edit would be rejected as radicle change, right? I added comment below question to which account1 user replies he did this cos of low rep.
Account1: http://stackoverflow.com/users/1581954/vinay-b-n
Account2: http://stackoverflow.com/users/1954633/vinay-bn
 
@Amar Methinks some dev needs to stop by and merge the accounts... (Just my opinion. I'm not a mod.)
Also,
> So your twin brother does the editing for you? He knows exactly what screenshot to add!
is *very* hostile phrasing for a "something seems odd" comment.
 
Yeah, sorry for that!
That should be flagged
I agree with your suggestion about merging accounts.
Is it done by the mods or can user himself do it?
@michaelb958
 
@Amar I don't think even mods can merge accounts - you need an Official SE Developerâ„¢ to do that.
There are plenty in this room, it appears.
 
So how to report to them? Any protocols in place for that?
@michaelb958
oh ok, ignore earlier question in that case
 
Can't find the question off-hand, but I believe generally accounts won't be merged any more, except upon the explicit request of the user.
 
10:10 AM
If you believe voting fraud has occurred, you should flag for moderator attention, using the Other reason and giving the links to both accounts.
 
I wasn't sure and wanted to bring it to notice before I do that.
@Oded
 
@Oded Not voting fraud, just addition of screenshot from his other account. Evidence quote: "This was a newly created account so I was not able to upload the images with it."
 
@michaelb958 - Upvotes this question with account2 (I think)
That is voting fraud (or suspected voting fraud) using a sock puppet
@Amar It is OK if you are not sure. You can say so in the flag and the moderators can confirm if that is the case or not.
 
@Oded I didn't look at the vote counts... That might be something.
 
@Oded Can anyone here confirm if it was actually account2 who upvoted?
Yes, I will flag it explaining the reason.
 
10:13 AM
@Amar - No. Votes are anonymous. The moderators have tools to see voting patterns, however.
 
I wonder sometimes if we should clarify that. It seems users generally have the idea that moderators can see real votes instead of just patterns.
 
@Oded One more question, for improving my reviewing skills. If this suggested edit was in queue, I will reject it stating radicle change(since it is added by another user). Would that it be correct?
@Bart Agree, I actually thought that mods can see who voted. :)
 
@Amar It pulls information from nowhere - I, at least, would reject. (Two people actually did.)
 
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Q: How to deal with suggested edits from the original poster using a different account?

BartThe situation is this: there is the following suggested edit on a Stack Overflow question. From the edit it seems to me that the user suggesting it is actually the same as the original author. Perhaps he logged in for his edit, while he did not do so before. Either that or he has gone beyond all ...

 
@Amar - Unless there is supporting evidence for the edit (in comments or comments on other answers) that the edit is valid, it should be rejected. That is - if there is no way for another user to know enough to make that edit from information in the question/answer/comments, it should be rejected.
 
10:20 AM
@michaelb958 thanks for confirming!
@Oded okay get it now. @Bart I will read through that question.
Thanks for your help guys.
 
Oh hey, the accounts got merged... (@Amar)
 
@michaelb958 - I just did that, yes.
 
@michaelb958 Yes, just checked that. Cool.
 
Does anyone have a link to a meta question (or blog post) that really dissects the reasons why individuals cannot vote to close a question multiple times?
I'd like to better understand the rationale, particular around possible abuse. Because often I consider this would be a useful feature (e.g. to retract a close vote and then vote again with a more accurate category).
Perhaps leading to the idea that this could be a rep-limited feature introduced at 10k or so.
 
10:40 AM
Perhaps that would make sense with the new retraction option. When that wasn't there, not so much.
 
I guess what I wanted was the ability to change a close vote. Now, with the retraction system in place, the same goal can be achieved in a different way (e.g. retract, then vote again).
It's always struck me as odd that as a user trusted to issue close votes, I wasn't trusted to alter that opinion. That would be a little restrictive even in a system that didn't allow OPs to edit their questions.
 
11:33 AM
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Q: Why is this answer flag rejected, moderators don't need help?

SaeedI flagged this answer as "not an answer": Load .txt File to GridControl (DevExpress) For the users who cannot see the content of the linked answer: "Sorry for the late answer , I've found another way for this . as you said , using DataSource but What I would like to know now , is how to Load i...

Sounds like mods are just like the suggested edit reviewers.
 
11:46 AM
Human @JohannesKuhn?
 
12:03 PM
exactly.
 
 
2 hours later…
2:01 PM
Anyone want to tie the bow on the Amateur Radio proposal? 1 more committer till it's ready to launch. area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/43029/…
 
already done.
I'm one of the 99 200+ rep commiters
I belive this site could work, according to the commits.
 
I'm excited for it. It should be a very valuable resource once it launches.
 
I'm just curios.
I was once at the local amator radio club meeting, was nice there. Was the last meeting before the summer break.
 
Most hams are a good group of people.
 
Amateur Radio - 5.3% Academic
 
2:15 PM
@Bart LOL well said, sir.
I don't know if there are standards around having "senior" in my job title, but I've only been doing software development for about 4 years. It feels weird to be called "senior."
In addition to the fact that I'm 26, which also makes it weird =P
 
Seriously. I remember when I made it to senior engineer, the same thing.
Prinicpal is the really senior people...
Or even higher, fellow.
 
I think at my company "Lead developer" is higher than senior. But I'm really not sure.
That's something for actual employees to worry about, I suppose.
 
We just don't have job titles at my company...
 
There are also the "Architects" that seem to be sneaking in everywhere in my vicinity. Solution architect, section architect or even the Enterprise architect.
 
My company consists of about 150 people. There is somewhat of an org chart, but only the managers+ have titles.
@perhapsPekka This statement should read "PHP doesn't write stupid code. People write stupid PHP code."
 
2:24 PM
Ah the benefit of working in a 3-person foundation where you can make up your own titles. :)
 
When the company was only 50 people, I think they named something like 10 VPs. Most of those have stuck around...
 
Ah, the benefit of working for a 45,000-person corporation. I'm not sure what that benefit is, but I'm sure there is one.
Getting to use ThinkPad laptops with XP on them, maybe?
IE8 as the corporate-approved browser?
 
@jadarnel27 Corporate approvals are always fantastic
 
There are benefits. The pay is usually a bit higher, the benefits better, they have more consistent things like computer upgrades. You can totally switch projects and never work with the same people again, all while staying at the same company.
 
@Pearson We don't get the computer upgrades, but the other things you mentioned are nice. I was mostly just poking fun at the (mostly minor) downsides to my job.
It's a big project to get 30k new laptops with a new OS on them. And testing all of the enterprise apps on the new OS first, to make sure they don't break everything.
 
2:54 PM
@jadarnel27 Because they really need to micromanage all that stuff in order to.. uh... save on IT cos... waitaminute!
Huge company enterprise apps are notoriously fragile though, I kid.
 
3:11 PM
Haha, I see what you did there, mootinator.
There were definitely a lot of compatibility problems caught in the "Windows 7 testing" project. I feel like most of them were Java-related.
 
That seems somehow ironic.
 
3:33 PM
In what way? The whole "virtual machine" cross platform compatibility concept?
Obviously, that's an elaborate hoax.
 
@jadarnel27 That is exactly what my company now does.
Test everything with Windows 7
And recently IE9 was approved
 
oebja
 
The bright side is: I'm part of the IT dept, so I already got a Win7.
 
@Johannes Lucky you. I'm a developer, and still stuck with XP so far =) Also, I was pretty appalled that approving IE9 was not part of the Win7 project.
For us.
So now we will have brand new laptops, Windows 7, and IE8.
 
@jadarnel27 well, try to tell them that the stuff you work on have to run on Win 7 as well. If you get a Win7 box for work, you could test it while you develop. Otherwise they have to do it later.
@PearsonArtPhoto We got 100%
 
4:02 PM
@JohannesKuhn I noticed. Whew!
 
ok, just emulated a lambda calculus thing.
 
I think I've done that before accidentally
 
 
1 hour later…
5:18 PM
Hola folks.
 
5:47 PM
Howdy.
 
The mysterious camouflaged @Moshe pops its head into Taverns at random, only to disappear before anyone notices it.
Wake up sheeple!*
 
Seriously. If you're not willing to wait around for half an hour for someone to respond to your arrival, you better not hang around here (or Applebee's, for that matter).
 
@jadarnel27 Zing!
 
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here for an as yet undetermined amount of time.
 
@jadarnel27 At least half an hour, I hope.
 
5:55 PM
You'd think!
 
You have to practice for your seventy-five SE interviews.
 
Oh, is that how that works?
 
It might work somewhat like how Joel Spolsky recommends doing it, strangely enough.
But don't tell anyone I said that because he's pretty clear in recommending that applicants don't find out how the process works.
So only go look at that stuff if you're planning on hiring someone.
 
6:23 PM
Are there any community managers here I could have a chat with?
 
@Undo You could see if @Pops is still around. @Pops likes being pinged.
Right @Pops?
 
@Pops Oy!
 
Where'd I put that banhammer...?
 
@Pops Under your couch.
@Pops Could we have a private room? I have some questions that you may be able to help me with.
 
6:26 PM
At least I didn't say @Tim
 
We could do a room that's publicly viewable but restricted to us for talking; otherwise, e-mail would probably be better.
 
@Pops Fine with me.
 
Also, was just planning on heading out, could it wait until later this afternoon? (I promise I'm not just trying to get rid of you, it's just bad timing!)
 
Sure.
I'll just have to ping you every few hours.
 
Alright, I'll look forward to it.
 
6:31 PM
sets up pinging script
 
has been summoned and instinctively blames @jadarnel27
 
That really doesn't have the same effect as it used to.
 
instinctively ducks the blame I didn't do it!
 
Br0wn therefore anything I may or may not have done doesn't count
 
This time, this time.
 
6:34 PM
Some people are actually trying to do work today. ಠ_ಠ
 
It's Friday, so I'm naturally skeptical.
 
Oh, they're not me, I just assumed you might be.
Maybe after lunch I'll get my focus back.
 
Oddly enough, I am.
This may be a sign of the end times.
 
I'm just somewhat blocked at the moment, otherwise I would be thing.
Working, that's the word.
 
I should do some work too. We should all aspire to be more like @TimStone.
 
6:39 PM
That's a scary choice.
 
I'm feeling brave.
 
Yesterday I sent an e-mail "Where are employee phone numbers in the database, I can't find them." After it got forwarded several times, the answer came back "Use their direct numbers."
It's like a game of telephone.
Only with enterprise systems and billable time instead of fun involved.
 
Hahaha.
There's a lot of irony there. And at least as much incompetence as irony.
 
6:57 PM
Man, I haven't seen an "oy" in here in quite some time. Makes me wonder how that Rebecca person is doing. Are her smiles still backwards? Does she still have that pointy stick? Is she oy-ing somewhere out there right now?!
So many questions!!!
 
I haven't heard anything about her untimely demise... So I bet the answers to the second, third, and fourth question are "yes."
Which is not to diminish the importance and/or relevance of the first question.
 
You know what happens when you make educated guesses.
 
You make an ed out of u and cated guesses?
Dangit, I just did it again.
 
> Why are you giving me the secret signal to shut up?
 
7:13 PM
pings @Pops :D
 
I can't believe mootinator just got that quote formatting right.
(are we still doing that joke?)
 
I don't see why not.
 
Whew. Good. I was worried there for a second.
 
It's like the new 'oy'. We don't stop doing it.
 
 
1 hour later…
user234239
8:20 PM
HI
 
8:30 PM
You misspelled "HAI."
 
...wake up sheeple!**
 
8:51 PM
@TCPMAN.EXE huh... wha? I was sleeping!
 
9:02 PM
Sheeple!
Arise.
@jadarnel27 Hello
Anyone?
 
9:19 PM
hi
Did I give you enough time to vanish yet?
@Moshe :D
 
Nope
 
There goes that theory.
How have you been?
 
Well, I'm glad to participate in science.
Good, good.
 
\o/ science
 
Not sure what username you had when I was here last, because I don't recognize the name.
I'm guessing you're mootinator, but that's just a guess.
 
9:22 PM
\o/ educated guess
 
The top starred post on the right side gave it away.
 
Ah yes...
 
How's it been here?
 
I'm in disguise as a 16 bit app.
 
Haha, fantastic. There's room for four of you in a single instruction on my iPhone 5S.
 
9:24 PM
I've been away a lot. People have been using this room to discuss StackExchange or something lately.
It's very...odd.
 
Yes, I agree. That is odd.
 
@TCPMAN.EXE What do the asterisks stand for? Are you going to eventually explain something about your usage of "sheeple"?
 
@jadarnel27 You know I think I was going to but now that you asked, I've totally forgotten.
 
But you even did that twice!
 
@jadarnel27 Sheeple is a derogatory term for Apple customers, no?
 
9:26 PM
You're the worst, 16-bit-inator.
 
@Moshe It could be.
 
Also, @TCPMAN.EXE You were supposed to leave your asterisks at the door.
Ahem.
 
points at a bucket dripping with asterisks
Now.
 
I was venting my annoyance at someone who called me a libertarian nutjob this morning, so perhaps I thought I should act more like one.
 
9:27 PM
@TCPMAN.EXE Aren't you that thing that you just said, though?
 
:-/ Sorry to hear that someone was busting your chops.
 
What with the calling people sheeple, telling them to wake up and being paranoid in general.
 
lol
 
I feel like this question might have stayed open, had I not derailed it.
But I could be wrong.
 
I was kinda disappointed with the stickers.
Mainly because the free stickers were nowhere near as awesome as the ones I paid for.
Hold on, someone's at the door.
 
9:31 PM
@jadarnel27 +1 for stickers on your co-workers
you made my day, thanks
 
They brought me a free horse. Now they're being all uppity because I wanted to inspect it's mouth.
 
@JohannesKuhn Anytime =P
 
Just tried convincing an 8 year old to read the New York Times.
 
It's nice to know one can still almost rep-cap on Meta with one silly joke post.
@TCPMAN.EXE How rude of some or all of the people involved in that situation!
 
@jadarnel27 We'll have to remedy that. We need one more vote plz, kthx.
 
9:39 PM
@jadarnel27 and rep-cap reached. still no rep lost.
 
9:56 PM
@JohannesKuhn CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
Fortunately @jadarnel27 has some silly ideas about being nice to people who are on the wrong site for me to downvote.
Yeah, no I can't do it.
 
@TCPMAN.EXE you should be ashamed of yourself. As penance, I order you to drive down to the US this weekend and purchase an Obamacare policy through one of their exchanges just to show your support.
 
I just need to be sure to not try to do it from Wyoming.
 
Montana should be your first stop on the way, that should suffice.
 
North Dakota would actually be closer.
 
Really?
Not on my map
Because of better roads?
 
10:00 PM
Well, easier to get to.
Right.
 
Ah, I see
 
Also there isn't really much in the way of cities in Eastern Montana.
Not that I need to be in a city.
Really, I don't need to be in the US at all.
 
@TCPMAN.EXE Don't go around telling people I have ideas!
 
@TCPMAN.EXE think again!
The web sites are probably still offline
Either way, you should go to Butte, Montana
Just for the hilarious name.
Plus I'm sure it's beautiful, too
 
@perhapsPekka Ah. Yeah. =) It is, actually.
 
10:02 PM
@JohannesKuhn I imagine I will lose ~200 rep when that question inevitably gets deleted.
By moderators.
 
We have to keep is alive for 3 days.
 
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Is it weird that I have a unit test project not checked into source control, and that my boss knows this and thinks it's probably best I leave it that way.
 
I can't imagine anything going badly there.
 
Monolithic enterprise projects are a delicate balance, you don't want to just go around adding crazy new practices to them.
 
10:49 PM
orders a mug of lager
 
11:45 PM
Did you ever get that lager?
This place has crappy service.
I will thus only be leaving a 15% tip.
 
So you're going to open a 100-point bounty and then accept the bartender's answer?
He ordered it in a mug. When he chooses a reasonable piece of glassware, he might get served.
 

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