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2:05 AM
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Now I remember why I don't write blogs anymore...
 
 
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3:23 AM
@Pops At the very least, you will get a free copy of "Raining Down", by Stephen and Josh Darnell - signed by the creative and talented singer/songwriters themselves!
How could you pass up such a deal?!
How could anyone!
 
> ... are Equal Opportunity employers and, therefore, do not discriminate because of ..., except that no person shall be employed who advocates or belongs to a group which advocates the violent overthrow of our government.
Sorry, but I could not resist laughing at that.
 
Haha, wow. That is really odd.
 
4:13 AM
Life-changing decisions ahhhh I'm not any good at these >_>
 
 
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6:25 AM
@balpha, Got a sec?
 
6:50 AM
Whoops, found the relevant post. Commented there instead. Sorry to bother you.
 
7:13 AM
@HodofHod presumably you mean this?
Is it possible that this has come back in 0.1.27, or that it wasn't fixed for meta sites? I didn't see this bug before, so I'm not sure what I'm seeing is the same thing. I'm seeing a lot of black flickering when scrolling through meta posts, for example here: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/7624/…HodofHod 23 mins ago
 
@balpha Yep.
 
there's no difference whatsoever between meta and non-meta on that issue
can you describe what precisely you're seeing?
 
You're right, I'm seeing it now on main sites too. I don't know why I didn't before.
Essentially, the text in the posts flickers, briefly showing a black box where the <p> or <div> element would be. I assume it's those, because images and <pre> blocks don't flicker, and because the black box covers the exact width of the text, so the black box is wider for questions, since question paragraphs are wider.
Once I've scrolled through the whole question or list of answers, subsequent scrolls no longer cause flickering.
Refreshing the question/answers resets that.
 
and that's in 0.1.27?
 
Yep.
 
7:30 AM
hmm. Yeah, you're describing the exact same issue
and it didn't happen before 0.1.27?
 
@balpha It.... may have, but I didn't notice it. It only shows up on questions with a bunch of answers, and I only really paid attention when scrolling through a long meta post.
 
> It only shows up on questions with a bunch of answers
that's interesting
 
Wait, I misspoke.
I meant that it only really caught my attention when I was scrolling through a bunch of answers that were all flickering at me.
It may have happened in earlier versions and I missed it.
 
ah okay
 
I tried seeing if I had a backup of the app to test it, but I don't :/
 
7:39 AM
what's your phone/android version?
 
Galaxy S III, 4.3 (CM10.2)
 
isn't 10.2 an alpha version?
 
Yeah. It hasn't caused any other issues for me yet, and other people seemed to have the issue before, so. (Sorry for not stating that up front :( )
If you'd like, I can test a stable?
 
does it look like this?
 
No, and it doesn't happen in any other app.
 
7:51 AM
you can take a screenshot of that? I thought it's just flickering
 
No, it's too quick. I think there's a method to record the screen, I'll try that.
 
anyway, until I hear reports of this happening at least in a stable CM version, I'm going to blame the alpha
in particular since the intarwebz mention several issues with 10.2 and hardware acceleration
 
Ok, I'm going to flash a stable version and retest. I'll let you know.
 
ok
 
Thanks for your time :)
 
8:24 AM
@balpha Flashed the most recent stable version, CM 10.1.2 (4.2.2), installed 0.1.27 and I'm still seeing the flickering.
I'll try to take a video.
 
@HodofHod can you try whether you see any change when you check the boxes for "Disable HW overlays" and "Force GPU rendering" in the developer settings?
 
No effect.
 
k thanks
 
9:00 AM
@HodofHod heads up -- I'm reproducing it on one of my devices
 
hi, is there anything that can be down about my downvote to revert if I regret I gave a -1?
 
YAY I'M NOT CRAZY
:D
 
@LaszloPapp if the vote was less than ten minutes ago, you can just undo it
otherwise the post has to be edited before you can change your vote
@HodofHod judgement is still open on that ;p
 
balha: it was unfortunately more than 10 minutes.
 
@balpha Wait, no, I got the letter yesterday :(
;)
 
9:03 AM
If the post has been edited (by anyone) since you voted, you can revert.
Oh yeah. You are ignoring me. Too bad.
 
Isn't it 5 minutes though, rather than 10?
 
may be five, I'm not sure
yep, you're right
 
it is 5
8 minutes was not okay.
 
user234239
@Oded are you ignored as well!?
 
@UV-D I believe so, according to what dear Laszlo posted some time ago. After I told him that he is either misunderstanding English, is overly sensitive or trolling (he took exception to the latter).
 
user234239
9:13 AM
@Oded yup, I was speaking in a non-faithful tone... whatever on earth that is
 
user234239
and he is a sympathy seeker
 
@UV-D Obssesing about his rep, but claiming he cares not a whit about it.
 
none of you is on ignore ...
 
user234239
@LaszloPapp LOL omg you just made my evening!
 
user234239
@Oded it seems we are not on ignore, how about that!
 
9:16 AM
The joy of not being ignored!
And yet, nothing we posted is a lie. Simply our reaction to his behavior.
 
user234239
does the happy dance, eats chicken and burps unicorns and moonbeams in joy...
 
Heh, if anyone now ever asks what we do at work, I can legitimately claim that we motion capture bread: artanim.ch/blog/2013/09/…
 
user234239
(well, eating pizza actually)
 
user234239
@Oded very true
 
yeah, so you can go and downvote the sympathy seeker troll's posts.
 
user234239
9:19 AM
@Bart that is so very cool
 
I suggested that we make pastries our speciality @UV-D, but it seems that's not going to happen
 
user234239
@LaszloPapp I have been voting (up and down) many a post, but none of them are yours - sorry to disappoint you.
 
user234239
@Bart dang! pastries are the best!
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber good evening to you
 
Hello @UV-D and others!
 
user234239
9:23 AM
and how be you?
 
Ok. I should be getting a little bit of sleep before I have to head for work, though!
You?
 
user234239
I am awesome
 
@LaszloPapp Strangely I vote according to the post, not the person.
Hi @AndrewBarber
 
user234239
@Oded funny that, I do the same, strange eh?
 
You've always been odd, @Oded ;)
Odd Oded!
Odde Oded!
 
user234239
9:25 AM
Today, I have been accepted as a casual research asssitant
 
(somebody stop me, please!!!)
 
@AndrewBarber Points for originality!
Ode to Oded
 
user234239
Throws a pineapple at @AndrewBarber
 
@HodofHod fixed (yet again) in 0.1.28
 
Pineapple... yummm...
 
user234239
9:26 AM
enjoy!
 
@balpha Excellent, thanks!
Any non-mods here have the Android app?
 
Oded: it was a sarcastic joke....
 
...and can try something really quick for me?
 
Oded: I definitely have not called anyone empathy seeker troll.
what else? Please increase! You will be happier!
 
@HodofHod Would it be useful to try it on a site where I am not mod?
 
9:27 AM
...
 
user234239
unfortunately I do not have the app
 
@AndrewBarber If you've posted on their meta, absolutely!
 
Oops. I see you've removed that claim now. Nevermind!
@HodofHod Actually, I'm not near my phone now, anyway, I just realized!
 
Any meta where you're not a mod, really. I'm seeing a bug where I'm unable to edit my posts on any meta (besides meta.SO). Want to see if it's just me.
@AndrewBarber Ah, well; thanks anyway :)
 
I'll try it out later, though! I think I have a post on SF meta, maybe.
 
user234239
9:30 AM
hmmm I wonder if I can make a death ray app using the smartphone camera, duct tape and an old newspaper?
 
If not, I'm sure I can make one. Bwahahahahaaaa!!!
No, @UV-D.
It needs to be new newspaper.
 
@AndrewBarber Soon: Andrew gets suspended
 
That is no McGyver spirit @AndrewBarber.
 
@Bart The fibers need to be intact for a death ray! Duh!!
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber ah yes, I think I can see why... imagine that - point the camera.. say 'cheese' (or some deli snack) and zap! gone...
 
9:32 AM
@HodofHod Eeek! I think it would be harmful to my health to get suspended ;)
 
user234239
suspending Andrew??? is that even possible?
 
It is... In fact, I could do it myself!
Or at least, I have the menu options to do it. I'm too chicken to try.
 
user234239
self suspending? sounds disturbingly kinky...
 
@AndrewBarber I seem to recall this being discussed in TL...
 
@HodofHod It's a moot point, anyway... I'd just get Shog9 to suspend me ;)
 
9:42 AM
@AndrewBarber DOOOO IT. FOR SCIENCE.
I'm sure that @Shog9 will be as willing to unsuspend you as he would be to suspend you.
 
Not so sure about that.
 
@HodofHod Oh, are you, now... Well, I'm not! I'm out of control, I tell ya!!! Err...
 
GET 'EM!!
 
@UV-D Everybody in the 'scene' knows you never self-suspend, unless you have a spotter there, and a well-known safe-word.
 
In this case, "Eeek!"
 
9:47 AM
Eek!
 
What's that? Did you say something?
 
No, I didn't. But this lady standing on the chair next to me did. Do you think the mouse suit has anything to do with it?
I don't mean a suit that makes me look like a mouse... I mean a suit made for a mouse.
 
Oded: anyway, I apolgoize if I had caused any issues for anyone. I definitely did not want to end up in being called an empathy seeker troll.
 
<snark>I think trolls seeking empathy often end up finding apathy, instead.</snark> ;)
(Not calling anyone a troll at all!)
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber LOL!
 
user234239
9:51 AM
no, never
 
user234239
I don't recall anyone calling Laszlo an 'empathy seeker'
 
I seek empathy a lot.
Apathy, too.
 
sympathy*, typo.
 
user234239
his demonstrated behaviour may have been referred to as 'sympathy seeking'..
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber I am the king of apathy
 
9:52 AM
I did not call anyone names, and I kinda hope for that from others too...
 
It's often easier to get sympathy when you can get some empathy. Or some mumbo-jumbo like that!
 
(especially not for disagreements)
 
No one's calling anyone names, Laszlo. We're just being silly. :)
 
if disagreement hurts someone, I apologize, but it happens.
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber yes I read that on a toilet roll somewhere
 
9:54 AM
Welcome to the wonderful world of Andrew's needlepoint pillow wisdom
 
Andrew: I have been called a potential troll because I agreed about couple of things.
Andrew: and then sympathy seeker for the same reason.
 
user234239
cement. bucket...
 
and then disagreement is turned into "behavior" -> i.e. personal track from technical.
 
And I've been called a Nazi. Actually, that's way too easy... maybe Bart can come up with some better names I've been called... ;)
 
Andrew: it is more significant when you are a newcomer, and "experienced people" call you that.
 
9:55 AM
Trying to get me suspended are you?
 
@Bart Dangit. Busted.
 
it is a lot more demotivating rather than when a newcomer tells something for an experienced person.
 
@LaszloPapp Actually, I didn't call you a troll. I said it is one possible explanation to the way you interact with people here in chat and on meta. In particular your insistence on misunderstanding and misrepresenting what people say.
 
@Oded: you did not call me a potential troll? You gave one potential option for that.
just because I disagree with you about several things.
 
@LaszloPapp Sure, if someone is referred to negatively by an established member, it can be a bit intimidating to a newer user.
@LaszloPapp But of all people, I don't see you as the type who gets easily intimidated by that sort of thing.
 
9:57 AM
Andrew: yes, it is establishing an excluding feeling rather than inclusive into the community.
 
Of course, I did get my psychology degree from a cracker jack box, so.. who knows ;)
 
I gave you my opinion. I said you may be that. I did not say you are a troll, just that the option crossed my mind (with other options).
 
But one thing I do know; when I walk into an established community as a newbie, I spend some time getting to know the place, first. Doesn't mean I don't have thoughts and such, but I give myself time to figure things out better, first. That is: I wait until I'm no longer a newbie to dive in.
 
@Oded: it does not make it nice you optionally called a newcomer troll due to a series of disagreements.
 
Laszlo... one quick note here...
 
9:59 AM
Andrew: so do I.
/me has to work now
 
Oded has repeatedly noted that he did not call you a troll. Yet you keep repeating your statement which presumes he did.
 
Andrew: he repeating it does not make it true
read the log.
he optionally called me that.
 
I have.
 
and I also wrote that potentially
I did not even write he called me a troll.
I said potentially.
 
Again. It wasn't disagreement that caused it. It was the way you interacted with people, the aggressive tone you took and the way you take offense waaay to easily.
 
10:00 AM
but even that is not nice in my book.
if you think disagreement is an aggressive tone, not much I can do about.
 
Frankly, the stuff you write is often far from nice.
 
when did I call anyone potentially names?
 
If only you would receive as well as you give
 
or even anything close to sympathy seeker?
 
Well, you certainly are capable of dealing out the "Not Nice" yourself, yes? So shouldn't you be able to take it back?
 
10:01 AM
But I am now going to go away from this "discussion", as a one sided rant is not a discussion.
 
Andrew: I am trying to tell him calling a newcomer troll potentially is not nice, neither is sympathy seeker.
 
Sounds like a plan, @Oded Dedo!
 
it is personal, nothing constructive, etc.
yes, encouraging respect towards others is "rant" ...
 
Ok. Doing those things is not nice. Established and agreed. Now, let's move on :)
 
Andrew: I am afraid Oded does not agree.
which I would like to avoid for the future.
 
10:03 AM
It's not your job to convince everyone to believe as you do about everything. Please stop trying.
 
I do not think he would apologize, but more importantly: this should be avoided for the future and new users.
yes, too bad he is like that, then.
move on.
 
user234239
and I will state that your behaviour was sympathy seeking... making mountains out of molehills
 
There is no "this" to avoid. So yes. Move on, please.
 
user234239
but, you will misinterpret me, so I am moving on also
 
user234239
so @AndrewBarber are you ready for th zombie apocalypse?
 
10:05 AM
@UV-D I am, indeed. Been practicing my head shots.
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber same, but I have been practicing my tripping over some lamer and running off while they are devoured
 
@Andrew: calling others potentially troll rather than leave it with disagreement should not be avoided?
 
@LaszloPapp I'm going to ask nicely, one more time. Please. Let it go.
 
user234239
@LaszloPapp move on!!!!!!!!!!!!! zombies should be avoided
 
Look at iAsk this morning and how insulting posts, I did not call him a troll whatsoever.
 
10:08 AM
Continuing to beat this dead horse would certainly be troll-like behavior.
 
user234239
zombie horse?
 
yeah, feel free to call others troll then, I will move on now.
 
Laszlo: You have repeatedly gotten in tiffs with random users since you've been here. It was someone else yesterday.
At some point, you might want to consider it's not everyone else...
 
@LaszloPapp If anything I think your English language skills are perhaps insufficient to pick up on the subtle difference that exists between actually saying something and you merely interpreting it as having been said. If that is the case you will figure out over time that your treatment has not been nearly as harsh as you think it has been.
 
user234239
@Bart are you ready for the zombie apocalypse?
 
10:12 AM
Us zombies are always ready @UV-D.
We died ready
 
user234239
@Bart holy crud I knew it!!!!
 
Evil Unicorn Overlords eat Zombies for breakfast.
But then, we experience the runs all afternoon.
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber I can imagine, it'd be the "enema of the undead"
 
"The enema of my enema is my..."
I'm gonna leave that one unfinished.
 
user234239
suppository?
 
10:15 AM
Ick! Yuck!
 
user234239
sorry, couldn't resist..LOL
 
user234239
so we're still talking crap?
 
@Andrew: that might be a good indication for not being healthy towards newcomers as a group?
 
user234239
suppositories?
 
just because a homogeneous community is what it is and there is a different opinion for the homogeneous stuff, it does not mean quantity wins.
 
10:17 AM
I always commit my code into the suppository @UV-D. For some reason this is not always appreciated.
 
user234239
those heathens!
 
If I wasn't a moderator and therefore did not feel obligated to hear everything that goes on here, Laszlo, I would be putting you on ignore right now.
So let's just consider this a virtual-ignore.
 
Checking out suppositories however....
 
My suppositories are blue in the face.
 
user234239
@LaszloPapp chill out and join us in this zombie-suppository talk
 
10:18 AM
ewww... zombie-suppositories?
They need them?
 
user234239
well they eat an awful lot of meat
 
and even if I had disagreements with several people, that is not an excuse for calling someone potentially a troll.
 
brains = meat?
 
nor sympathy seeker.
 
user234239
nor are zombies
 
user234239
10:19 AM
brains taste like chicken
 
zombie-trolls are the worst.
You need to shoot them in the head, and douse them in acid!
 
@AndrewBarber To be honest, at some point I stopped caring whether to call it meat or not
 
@Bart Hmm... well; it's definitely not roughage.
 
I now usually go for BLARAGHHLLL
 
Nor a beverage.
 
10:20 AM
You'd be surprised how expressive a one-word vocabulary can be
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber zombie trolls are everywhere...
 
user234239
@Bart hell yeah!
 
hell. yeah.
 
user234239
yes. that. is. better.
 
Hell? Yeah!
 
user234239
10:21 AM
here is a very bad joke for you
 
uh oh
 
UV-D: I am personally not interested in that talk, I am afraid.
 
user234239
what do you get when you cross an elephant with Darth Vader
 
user234239
?
 
ummm....
 
user234239
10:22 AM
An elevader!!!
 
groan
 
user234239
that sounded zombie-ish
 
I heard the rimshot from here.
 
user234239
LMAO
 
user234239
here is another joke for you
 
user234239
10:24 AM
Why did the zombie cross the road?
 
user234239
'cause it ate the chicken!
 
Buck-AWK!
Buck-GROOOAAAN...
Okay; I really need to go get ready for work now, since I stayed here through my time I'd reserved for a one-hour nap...
entirely your fault, @UV-D
Well, and @Bart
@Oded Dode had something to do with it, too.
 
user234239
@AndrewBarber I am happy to be of service!
 
And I was probably mostly to blame.
 
I deny everything
 
10:26 AM
So, it's really not your fault at all, UV-D
 
We can still blame him though
 
user234239
hell yeah
 
@Bart is this your $100 bill? No. K...
 
user234239
I like blame, it mkes me warm and fuzzy
 
ta ta for now, peeps!
 
10:27 AM
Cya
 
Don't eat any rubber snow.
 
user234239
definitely got to blame that UV-D character
 
Or, something like that.
 
user234239
Have a good one @AndrewBarber
 
Wheeeee!
2
 
user234239
10:29 AM
hmmm what does this button do..
 
user234239
well this has been a very fun chat - I bid all a good day/evening/night.
 
A good night to you @UV-D.
 
I'm here for the suppositories.
 
Apparently they are chicken flavored.
 
11:18 AM
@Andrew: seems there is another series of downvoting ongoing.
 
137
Q: What is serial voting and how does it affect me?

Cody GrayI just noticed that I lost a bunch of points from my reputation score on Stack Overflow, and I used the "reputation" tab on my user profile page to try and track down the cause. During my investigation, I noticed there was an unusual event of type "reversal". In the normal place of a question ti...

 
@Andrew: seems the person who did the previous took a path of doing it slowly.
now only 3 within an hour.
 
See the post Oded linked. No need to worry. It will be reversed.
Automatically
 
@Bart: ok, let us hope the algorithm is good enough.
hmm, any reason why a downvote appears as -4 in my history?
and the selected answer only has one downvote.
(which came across just now)
 
11:40 AM
@LaszloPapp It was actually down voted twice, but one of the votes has been invalidated by the system due to serial down voting. The reputation spread in your profile is cached, it's not really -4, just -2.
 
ok, thanks.
 
 
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1:18 PM
can the voters get a notification somehow if a post is updated?
 
Not really no. You can favourite a question which will provide you with a visual indication on your favourites page.
 
1:35 PM
sounds like a feature request.
I would like to get notified and change my vote accordingly.
I would not like to punish anyone with my -1 if the post gets updated to a correct one.
vica versa.
 
The usual disclaimer: search Meta before you raise this...
 
That has been proposed before @LaszloPapp.
22
Q: Should you be notified if something you vote on is edited? Why can you change your vote after something's been edited?

codewaggleI've read that you can change your vote after something you've voted on has been edited. I didn't find any discussion about how you would know an item you voted on had been edited. Does this functionality exist? Should it? How often are questions/answers with votes edited? Would it be too much ...

As one example
I believe there are several
330
Q: Allow an edit to notify downvoters: "I think I've fixed the issue now - please check"

Jon SkeetTo me, a downvote usually indicates a problem with an answer. When I downvote it's to mark the answer as having a problem, not the person. If the answer is fixed, I want to remove that downvote - but it's tricky to keep track of all the questions I've looked at over the last few hours. I don't a...

 
The usual disclaimer: I disagree with not having one.
the second is even off-topic here.
Note, I am not asking for notifying them.
I am asking for a global option for a person who decided to get notified.
 
They are related posts you might want to take into account if you were ever to make the feature request you're proposing. They might contain views worth considering and acknowledging
Your feature request is your own. Post away
 
@Bart - Laszlo knows better. No need to listen to the likes of you or me.
 
1:40 PM
Getting personal again because of a disagreement
and blind assume that I did not read those, sigh ...
would it be possible not to get personal because of a disagreement?
 
It is only my arrogance that keeps me from acknowledging greatness @Oded
 
you would spare a lot of frustration.
 
Nope. Just a response to this.
 
even if there is a thread, I do not see how it is a bad question? I mean, that thread is 15 months old or so
and features get implemented a lot more often.
 
@LaszloPapp Duplicates are not appreciated anywhere within the network. Meta included
if you make a new post, make it different
 
1:43 PM
it is not like the time stops existing.
 
If you want an old post to be reconsidered, award a bounty
 
/me is afraid of expressing any disagreement in the future because that just ends up in personal stuff
 
4 hours ago, by Bart
@LaszloPapp If anything I think your English language skills are perhaps insufficient to pick up on the subtle difference that exists between actually saying something and you merely interpreting it as having been said. If that is the case you will figure out over time that your treatment has not been nearly as harsh as you think it has been.
 
yeah, well, I could post a said comment from my side as well.
anyway, I think it would be useful if I did not leave my downvotes there if they update the content to a proper one. I would consider that unfair.
 
I actually think @Bart has a good grasp of English and its subtleties.
 
1:48 PM
Feel free to make the corresponding feature request. @LaszloPapp
 
Bart: as usual, I lost the motivation after a bit of discussion here.
 
Hey, if that saves me from casting another duplicate vote, great.
 
it might also save you from getting the site improved.
anyway, thanks, I need to get back to work now.
 
You're welcome.
 
Better that than you posting a dupe, it getting closed with lots of downvotes and you coming back to complain about the attitude on Meta. We short-circuited the process.
 
1:54 PM
I actually get used to downvoting myself. However, I would rather delete rubbish questions than showing publicly how many bad questions SO has.
 
Get enough rep to obtain the privilege to cast delete votes on closed questions which truly have no place on the site.
 
rep is not important.. that is what people keep mentioning here... :D
 
sigh...
 
exactly what I felt back then...
 
Rep for rep's sake is what people are saying. It isn't a goal in and of itself. And people have been telling you, repeatedly that you are well on your way to get there. Not sure what the rush is.
 
2:11 PM
no one is rushing.
I am answering questions when I have time, with my best knowledge.
if it seems to be quick, then it is, but it is natural...
fwiw, I have never reclaimed reps I do not deserve.
rep is not a goal, cleaning up the mess is which implicitly requires rep. :)
btw, was there an idea which was voted down, but later got accepted, still?
 
thanks
hmm, my answer is not here where Oded fixed the race condition.
(could not, and probably will not test it)
 
2:52 PM
Anyone know what's happening with the status of this request? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/38285/…
I was going to post asking for that but then I found that question, hasn't had much activity for a while but there was never any official response...
 
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