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3:01 PM
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Q: SQL Server Service Broker External Activation complete sample

Sam MahaffeyI am attempting to understand the complete picture of Service Broker external activation. I have found bits and pieces of different aspects, but nothing that is a complete simple sample. Can anyone point me to one?

It is asking for sample implementation.
 
That should be closed Imo
although it's quite old
 
@nhahtdh Close votes. Either overly broad or asking for off site resource.
 
Close vote for asking for external resources is what I'd go for. The minimal understanding when asking for code could also work, but I'd not choose that one here.
 
@Mansfield Doubt it will get implemented - comments are transitory and second class. We really don't want to give them more prominence.
 
3:06 PM
@Bart, @Oded: anyway, I appreciate that you spend your time with answering questions.
 
Four link-only answers to a sample request? Oof.
 
Oof stands for?
 
It doesn't stand for anything. It's onomatopoetic.
 
Almost worth keeping it around as a "THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS!" @Pops, should it come up on Meta once again.
 
@Bart I thought we had Yahoo! Answers for that?
 
3:09 PM
Linking to that, even for demonstration purposes, violates the entire "be nice" idea @oded.
 
My bad. Wasn't thinking about the children.
 
Yahoo answers is great, if you're looking for examples of human stupidity
 
I think that's their slogan now @Mansfield
 
@Bart touche
 
Hmm, talking about Y!A, I wonder what happened to our EE fanboy
 
3:13 PM
EE?
 
@Oded Even if it was just showing comment score on the activity page? Doesn't seem that...prominent to me.
 
The site which shall not be named, Oded
 
@Bart EnthusiasticElephants.com?
 
@Bart Oh. The hyphenated abomination.
 
Bingo
Ooh, I'm so going to register that one @Mansfield
 
3:15 PM
@Bart The possibilities are endless :)
 
Who ones EnthusiasticUnicorns.com?
 
My work actually has an EE account. It's fairly underwhelming in there
 
@Oded It could be you! (Currently available.)
 
@Pops Sounds like too much of an accident waiting to happen, don't you think?
 
Could be a useful bargaining chip in case you one day need something from balpha.
 
3:20 PM
No kidding
 
3:50 PM
Hi
 
Hi
 
@Oded: Sorry, wanted to get clarification on an item, but I already got it.
 
No problem
 
4:15 PM
64   up 		   10,165 question
10,173 	down 		   72 	answer
looks like a person with negative thinking and only wants to participate by negative vote stackoverflow.com/users/341571/heidelbergensis
may be that is aslo a way to participate
 
5:02 PM
people cannot see each others' -1 for the downvote they make?
 
@LaszloPapp yupp only mod and user who caste downvote vote can see -1
 
@NullPoiиteя No, not even mods can see who downvotes what.
 
perhaps I was unclear ....
I mean the reputation history of that user.
 
@Bart thanks ...
 
i.e. you cannot figure out from a person's reputation history if he was downvoting any of your questions.
I would expect that it is hidden in that history because otherwise smart scripts could reverse engineer stuff...
 
5:11 PM
If I'm not mistaken @LaszloPapp there is even a delay between them downvoting someone, losing the rep for it, and that becoming apparent in their overall reputation for other users.
 
hmm, so I can check this way if a person downvotes any of my question? I would have expected it differently.
since that is a gate for reverse engineering the downvoters.
 
No, not questions
 
@LaszloPapp it would be hard ... if your question gets positive scored answer .. which prevents you from deleting question
 
Questions don't have the rep loss associated to them for the voter
 
@Bart may be change in vote count ?
 
5:15 PM
That might be @NullPoiиteя, but given the heavy caching of all such values, I'd only expect that to show up with a significant delay
At which point the change might have been caused equally well by a vote on another post.
 
@Bart: sorry, I meant answers, i.e. -1
 
Even then you'd have to suspect the user, have their reputation at hand, and notice the reputation drop, hoping it's not caused by a vote other than the one you expect them to have cast
 
latency does not help there much as far as I can tell.
that is not what I meant.
for instance in my reputation history there is a clear entry about the -1
which answer I downvoted.
 
Yes
 
does that entry also appear if I browse someone else's reputation history or they browser mine?
 
5:18 PM
No
 
OK, good, that is what I suspected.
 
All your voting behaviour is anonymous
It is only visible to you and potentially the developers
 
@LaszloPapp btw if any user serial upvote/downvote than it will be reverse so .. it wont hurt :)
 
Not even moderators get to see it
 
NullPointer: I did not have serial voting in mind.
Bart: seriously?
 
5:19 PM
What?
 
"Not even moderators get to see it"
 
Laszlo Papp .. i am not telling that about you
 
Yep, absolutely
 
NullPointer: I did not have that in mind about others either. ;-)
 
Moderators have no way of telling who votes on what.
 
5:21 PM
than how they detect voting fraud ?
 
Moderators don't. The system does
 
yes, that is why I asked "seriously"
I had the voting fraud detection in mind.
Bart: well the wiki writes you can ask moderators
if it is fraud.
 
Afaik (but I am not a moderator, nor have I been) they get a rough indication by the system of foul play
 
mods then check the system what the system does not provide by default or how?
 
@LaszloPapp Even in that case I think they have to escalate it higher up to get confirmation
 
5:23 PM
higher up means?
 
Dev
And perhaps the community moderators
But I'm getting into educated-guess territory there
(community moderators being SE employees, not volunteers)
 
ok, thanks.
so what can elected moderators do that you cannot with earned reps?
deleting messy stuff anytime anywhere, and close, etc?
 
Basically
 
nuke the users account :) and insta delete
 
Glorified janitors
Handle tons of flags
 
5:26 PM
are there any applicants for such voluntary work at all?
s/any/enough/
 
Absolutely. Check the various election pages
 
I only saw a few people.
 
: it has .. 10k user also have privileges stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools
 
We don't need tons of moderators @LaszloPapp. Privileges get you pretty far
 
5:27 PM
Bart: well there are people not active anymore with lots of reps
 
Sure. But you'll have noticed that privileges come on a scale. A lot of the basic cleanup can be done by lower-rep users. I can do plenty of "moderation" tasks on SO with my measly 8k
 
i.stack.imgur.com/j1Wjs.png they are quite active
looks like someone serial downvoted you
 
And most of it has been reversed @NullPoiиteя
 
and since its done by script ... does script also send automatic warning to serial voter ?
 
No clue
 
5:35 PM
It doesn't.
 
it would be really good to tell that its not according to so guideline and can cause ban :)
good night guys ... :)
 
good night
 
5:53 PM
I got banned from chat because someone told me to kill myself, is there any way to get unbanned?
 
That doesn't sound right at all. Link?
 
c++ lounge?
 
yes
 
Anonymous
@Bart Caveat: you can infer a user's reputation loss by comparing their historical reputation scores from the global reputation graph on StackExchange.com. If you have a specific set of votes that you suspect came from a particular user, this can be used to verify that they cast those votes in some cases.
 
Or you could just move on and have a normal life @Jeremy ;)
 
Anonymous
5:57 PM
@Bart I've only done that once. >_>
 
@Pops I have no idea how to link to it, I am searching and I can't find it I think the user deleted the comment
 
Hehe
 
The room and an approximate time would do.
 
@Bart: what do you mean by most of it has been reverted?
is there something that was not?
 
I remember you suspecting it to continue after the reversal?
 
5:59 PM
perhaps the last 3 in a row.... within an hour
within 50 minutes with equal time distances.
 
Xeo
@Jordan Yes, easy: Stop talking shit.
 
when I did not get that many the previous days
 
Here he is
 
I only based my "most" on your comment. I don't have any details
 
He was trolling me
 
Xeo
6:00 PM
@Pops The "room" would be the bin now.
 
@Jordan That's not why you got banned.
 
Read the transcript
he told me to kill myself
 
@Bart: ok
 
@Jordan I read the transcript. Didn't find it.
 
/me has some work to do now
 
6:01 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I don't know how to look at deleted messages
I can find it if I knew how
Xeo was harassing me the whole time
telling me I am too stupid to program
and that I need to take medication and overdose with a fatal dose
 
in bin on Stack Overflow Chat, 51 mins ago, by Xeo
Do yourself a favor and just GTFO.
That?
 
no
it may have been not-rightfold
 
Xeo
(Psst: Moderators can see deleted messages, so it's no use trying to rely on non-existing "deleted" messages.)
 
You know, I think you did not realize that perhaps you got banned because you got on everyone's nerves.
 
Honestly I don't understand the issue here.. the C++ lounge people are pretty much assholes, but they're also very valuable members of the community and the only reason that they're assholes is that people don't barge into the chat every day and waste their time... If they could enforce access control better it wouldn't be a problem, but they can't.
 
6:04 PM
@Xeo I am not relying on anything but the truth
 
I never thought I would be reading the bin transcript
 
Xeo
@BenjaminGruenbaum That second sentence makes me sad. :(
 
Some of the regulars in the lounge c++ room are really contributing and valued people here.. so they told a new guy to GTFO their room. I don't see the big deal about it.
 
They told me to kill myself
and that I am too stupid for computer science
 
Xeo
@BenjaminGruenbaum We don't just tell any new guy to GTFO.
 
6:05 PM
I think I have a right to defend myself, an obligation really
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum there is a "449 messages moved to bin"
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum We're not assholes. We're actually pretty open, but all these entitled asshats we've never seen before rushing in to ask questions and acting like we owe them something are enough to make us a bit bitter.
 
It is a fun read
 
Xeo
@rlemon That one was terribly slow.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I never acted like anyone owed me anything, I just don't like being insulted so the conversation got derailed
 
6:07 PM
@Xeo @EtiennedeMartel You come off as very aggressive to new users - but I don't find that a huge problem because overall the room members make a contribution to the site and it's a community, you don't have to be nice to new guys imo. Access control sucks and sometimes you act like assholes to new people.
 
Xeo
We're slightly aggressive towards off-topic users, maybe. That I will give you.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Fun fact: I'm the one who wrote that top part of our newbie hints. And everyone agreed with it.
 
slightly ?
 
If you want us to be nice, just be nice. Try to fit in. Introduce yourself. Be part of the community.
We want people to come back. Not people who come in, dump their question, and then leave.
 
I tried that but I only got insulted so there is no point in trying, I just keep it business when I go in there
 
6:09 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I'm saying that even if you come off as aggressive in order to maintain the quality of your room because access control is very problematic - that's ok, because there is no real alternative to avoid spam/trolls, even if you miss a good user every now and then I can totally see how it's worth it.
 
This is a tavern people! You don't come here to argue! You come here to drink and forget about those things about which you were arguing!
 
Xeo
Maybe we should define "aggressive" first. I don't think binning an off-topic / help-vampire message counts as aggressive. And that's really what we do most of the time.
@animuson A mod linked us here :<
 
@Jordan I don't know if what you said happened really happened, but reading through the transcripts I can't help but wonder if you shouldn't just leave at some point.
 
@Jordan Did you at least read our rules first?
 
@animuson Surely there's bar brawls once in a while. :)
 
6:09 PM
I was getting help though from one or two people, why not just leave me alone and let me get help? Instead you have to insult me and ban me
 
@Jordan And you - If you feel like you were not treated with respect you can leave the conversation at any point, you came to a room, they were not nice or useful - leave. You're going into a new community with their own etiquette, if you were insulted - that's not ok but you chose to stay.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I have read the rules before, I have been here for years
 
@AnnaLear Only when they've had a bit too much to drink.
 
@Benjamin I was getting help so I didn't want to leave
 
6:10 PM
@Jordan you can invite users to new rooms, that could have been an option if you've got offended :)
 
There's also a way to ignore users in chat, so if you feel someone's harassing you but you don't want to switch rooms, you can toss them on your ignore list.
 
@AnnaLear nope, that doesn't work. If other users talk to them it creates a very bad user experience for the one ignoring.
Tried it quite a few times, all it did was get me annoyed when other users were talking to them and I didn't get any of the context at all.
 
So if they tell me to kill myself I shouldn't report it?
 
@Jordan No one wants you to have a bad experience here and I apologize if you were offended by these people - but you have to try and see where they're coming from. I suggest that next time if you feel like you're not treated with respect just leave the environment which you find hostile. You can always invite people to your own room.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I don't know if I'd call that "it doesn't work". I personally don't tend to ignore people in chat (partly because it's literally my job to be able to read everything), but to me, a disjointed conversation > reading stuff aimed at me that's making my blood boil.
 
6:13 PM
@Benjamin Okay, thank you
 
Or you could take it to chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/34546/c @Jordan Though admittedly that seems rather quiet/dead ... :s
 
For the record, though, I don't care what the context is or who's at fault or whatever, telling someone to go kill themselves is never appropriate. Do report that sort of thing.
 
@AnnaLear We have moderators that are part of our community in JS, so a very effective community built bot (by our beloved Zirak) and the mods take care of junk pretty efficiently. Ignoring however, provides a very negative user experience, just like flagging in the chat.
 
I still haven't seen the quote where someone allegedly told you to kill yourself btw
 
@CatPlusPlus It was deleted i think, it was either Xeo or not-rightfold saying something about medication and a fatal overdose
 
6:15 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, chat flagging is rather badly broken. I need to get back to figuring out a way to fix it or at least make it somewhat more useful.
 
Give me a timeframe, I can see deleted messages.
Also seriously this ping sound is horrible.
You should install "bwoo" network-wide, just sayin.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus transcript doesn't work nice with deleted messages, so you need to look while in the bin
 
@AnnaLear Yeah, to be completely honest I don't blame you - while the big chat rooms contribute and moderate a lot of the questions in their tags compared to their size (C++ in the C++ tag, JS in the JS tag and PHP in the PHP tag (they're doing a great job btw)), I can see how from a business perspective it's better for SE to focus on the main site.
 
@CatPlusPlus Sometime between 4:50 and 5:30
 
Remove flagging, give room owners local moderation abilities.
(Well, vote-flagging, leave mod flagging)
 
6:18 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum It might be a good idea to change ignores to be "soft", i.e. just displaying messages from ignored users in a smaller font and/or grayed out. Similar to ignored tags. That would preserve context but still make annoying people less annoying (to those ignoring them) - could probably be done easily with a userscript
 
lol, how accurate.
 
Xeo
"sometime in the entire conversation"
 
I've been telling everyone forever that flagging doesn't work for the chat.
 
@ThiefMaster That's a great suggestion.
 
Also it's Zoidberg saying stupid shit.
 
6:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus I can see the problem with that though, you ban someone from a room, they mod flag your ban - a mod is involved anyway
 
Xeo
hellban~
 
Mods have a "this flag is noise" checkbox for chat flags since a few days - so that would be easy to handle ;)
 
Bah, make mod-flagging a ban an autoban for the flagger.
PROBLEM SOLVED
 
Xeo
Oh wait, now I jumbled up the sentence.
 
@Xeo I... know?
But really the important thing is to change the ping sound.
3
 
6:25 PM
Turn the sound down and hire someone to go "ping" each time you get a new message.
 
@CatPlusPlus Heresy!
 
@Shog9 Man have you even heard "bwoo", I tell you, it changes your life forever.
 
4
A: Suggest message beeps, blips and boops for the third place (the chat)

Shog9I've wasted most of the day listening to countless sound clips, searching for a good set of distinctive-yet-unobtrusive aural indicators... And at long last, I think I have the perfect mix: Message on idle room: Wilhelm scream Message on active room:Wilhelm scream Mention on active room:Wilhelm...

I feel my suggestions were rejected without due consideration, but... Whatever.
 
Broken links!
 
 
7:05 PM
Ohhhh it's supposed to thunderstorm in the middle of the baseball game I'm working tonight. Alright!
 
 
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9:08 PM
What? When did Judge Judy move from ABC to FOX? o.o
 
9:54 PM
Wow, that was quick. I just saw something flash on the home page about "Americanish names" and I clicked it and it was already nuked. Nice job mods :D
@animuson Is ^that the "Iraqi War Veteran" troll again? :/
 
But really, how can physics be physics if it could be fiction?
 
@Bart context? O_o
 
That's the title of a question by that user that apparently got deleted on the Physics SE
Ah, he has now asked it on the Philosophy beta.
 
Lol :D
 
Myeah, and he went off the path over there pretty fast, going into crazy rambling offensive territory.
Let's see how long that lasts
...aaaaaaaaannnd...it's gone
 
10:05 PM
ahaha, even on a beta site the SE community is just great :D
 
 
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11:17 PM
Is anyone having problems loading the reopen vote queue?
I tried on GC and a fresh login (no cookies) on Firefox
Appears to be working again. Carry on.
 
@ChrisForrence it's this one - evil title
 
Yep
And I take back my "working" statement
I just happened to have gotten an audit (which worked)
 
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Ah...
 
what a great question. Shame it can't be reopened.
 
11:35 PM
Drat
Actually, if I wait five minutes to do another edit (perhaps a minor one), would it be able to to be reviewed again? (I did edit the most recent revision)
 
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