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4:00 AM
@Trufa Ulcer or a hunger strike? ;)
 
@GeorgeMarian I like it best with large pearls, slightly scorched.
 
@Shog9 For some reason that made me think of rice pudding. Now, that I like.
 
@GeorgeMarian god damn diet. Basically starving myself to death.
 
@GeorgeMarian I quit smoking a gained 11 kg
 
4:01 AM
d'oh
 
@GeorgeMarian Rice pudding is nice. So is bread pudding. With bourbon.
 
Hmm...I don't think I've ever tried bread pudding.
 
@Trufa I started smoking more and lost 20lbs. DO YOU SEE WHERE YOU ERRED?
 
@Shog9 he
@GeorgeMarian it's very good! and @Shog9 stop it you're making me hungry! :)
 
@GeorgeMarian You should. It's easy to make, assuming you eat bread and end up with stale ends lying around.
Of course, if you happen to end up in New Orleans... OH, BABY
 
4:04 AM
@Shog9 Oh snap.
 
I just realized you people didn't even get a whole page of transcript while I was gone ... for shame!
 
Hmm...I usually make french toast with my bread heels.
 
@TimStone are you working or something? :p
 
@Shog9 for some reason I never though it was a tipical southamerican recipe, is it "common" in USA
 
@GeorgeMarian omg, so good that way!
@AdamDavis night ;)
@AdamDavis hear here, I'll put in a good word for it. Can I still buy it since I was on the testflight?
 
@drachenstern I'm trying to figure out who had themselves deleted off of Meta, costing me 105 reps :P
 
@TimStone eeep
 
@drachenstern Especially the whimpy bread we have here in the states. Gotta use the heels.
 
Though actually I should be working.
 
4:06 AM
I just remembered I stupidly bought a bunch of bread last week. Then left it out.
 
@GeorgeMarian depends on what you use. I use natures own honey wheat. Good medium consistency, not quite as good as homemade
@YOU!!!!!!!!!1
 
YOU
:D
 
I want to find some good bakeries here in town, because I need some good baguettes
 
@drachenstern I know, right? Slowing down my progress on getting close votes...so many duplicates. shakes fist
 
@drachenstern Yah, I'm thinking of my mom's homemade bread. Now that is some hearty stuff. I don't even want to know how many eggs one slice soaks up.
 
4:08 AM
Oh.
 
@GeorgeMarian haha!
 
Apparently they changed the question up vote weight.
 
@Trufa bread pudding?
 
> For some smaller-rooted sweet varieties, cooking is sufficient to eliminate all toxicity. The cyanide is carried away in the processing water and the amounts produced in domestic consumption are too small to have environmental impact
 
@TimStone sob
 
4:09 AM
Man, the things we humans do to survive.
 
@Shog9 yep
 
@mootinator Eh, I'm less disappointed by that than losing reps to an account deletion :P
 
@Trufa It's reasonably common.
 
@TimStone I thought that was a long time ago
 
@drachenstern Changed for Meta, which was not previously affected.
 
4:11 AM
ah0ha, classic Blade scene on FX coming up ... :D
@waiwai933 ahhhh
 
Meta differed from the other sites in that it maintained the +10 per question up vote.
 
@GeorgeMarian you know whats always puzzled me? how the hell did people get to smoke, it is quite / very toxic when you eat it... who was the first to say ok, so we feel like hell when we eat it, lets try somking it! (albeit it is toxic when smoked but on the long run)
 
@TimStone I was not aware of that
 
Aye nods
 
@Shog9 hmm good to know...
 
4:12 AM
@Trufa after it started burning
they used to clear fields by burning them
 
@Trufa Yeah, good point.
 
It was MUCH faster
 
There's the possibility of it burning nearby and someone inhaling it and liking it, I guess.
Yah, what @drachenstern said.
 
@drachenstern yes I heard that before but most people cough like hell when the inhale the smoke even when pure...
 
@Trufa as do most smokers at first
know how they found out about cacao?
which in it's raw form is highly bitter ...
Of further note:
 
4:14 AM
@drachenstern ok, but caco is bad taste, if you eat a leaf of tobacco you will be feeling like you will die
 
This makes me think of a concept, the name of which escapes me at the moment, about one villager trying something out and if it didn't kill him, the others would also try it.
 
Most societies evolve to the point where a large percentage of the population is in direct support of the way of life. However, there always evolves a higher class of citizenry who have nothing to do but to pursue leisure. Those generally tend to try and kill themselves (look at Charlie Sheen) by ingesting whatever they can to try and find the best there is to offer.
 
@GeorgeMarian well, there's that, the most resonable explanation I could find was that it started as a sort of sacrifice ritual
 
> Those generally tend to try and kill themselves
 
@Trufa not after it's been dried and sliced up ... like dead leaves tossed on the wayside after clearing some weeds?
 
4:16 AM
LOL. Well put!
 
Well they dooo
 
@drachenstern very nice...
 
I'm gonna eat less than charbroiled meat ... oh look, it tastes good even tho it's still slightly bloody ...
 
Umm....
We started by eating raw meat, so there goes that idea. :P
 
I'm gonna let these grapes sit in these buckets for a bit, then I'm gonna drink the juice after some time
 
4:17 AM
And then there's the class of citizenry who wish they had nothing to do but pursu... nah, not gonna go there.
 
@GeorgeMarian yeah but you cook it to cure it
 
@drachenstern hey hey don't mess with my raw meat
 
@drachenstern Sure, but cooking came sometime after fire.
 
that's how jerky started, er rather, jerky was what most people ate ... that and heavily salted meat
@Trufa do you know the root word (and origin) of salary?
 
Ok and there another thinng that puzzles me, well not puzzles but intrigues me who the hell though it was a good idea to burn food and then eat it
@drachenstern yes from salt right?
 
4:18 AM
@Trufa Burger King
 
@Trufa yep
 
@mootinator he
 
@Trufa they probably discovered it by accident ... that's what I'm guessing
 
However, since it happened sometime around 40,000 years ago (at least!) then I'm guessing we'll never know
 
4:19 AM
Like soooo many things.
 
yep... that seems to be accurate
how are accidental discoveries called in science
the name just slipped away!
 
@drachenstern Around the time God created Adam and Eve and told them to cook stuff.
 
@mootinator oh yeah, I missed that part huh?
 
Serendipity
 
obvious oversight
 
4:22 AM
I have to admit, despite being raised in a Southern Baptist upbringing, I can't walk outside and look around and believe that those guys are really on the level. I believe there's a grain of truth in the middle of those oysters, but I imagine most of it is wrong ...
And please don't get me started on the Catholics ... (nobody has broken my logic yet but they say that politics and religion make strange bedfellows [don't talk about them])
 
I actually tried going to church a couple of years ago.
 
And?
 
It seemed a lot more like a weird senseless ritual than I remembered.
 
I actually am fairly religous
(albeit: not an idiot)
 
@Trufa are you Catholic?
 
4:25 AM
If there was somewhere I could go listen to an interesting sermon and not have to play along and affirm that I believe in virgin births and resurrections, etc. I would go there.
It just doesn't sit well with me.
 
@mootinator what denomination?
 
@drachenstern Anglican.
 
@mootinator I don't know enough about that division
 
@drachenstern well I used to be, I wouldnt call myself that now... I've abandoned most of it.
 
Places that call themselves "churches" aren't necessarily Christian.
 
4:27 AM
I love how there's sooooo many subdivisions of a religion based on loving one another and accepting each other despite separate points of view
 
@drachenstern The town I live in has 3 Mennonite churches and nothing else. I haven't been.
 
I haven't been to church, regularly, in years.
 
@mmyers most aren't by the very definition ;)
@Trufa will you answer a question about Catholics?
 
Finding a congregation that doesn't creep me out isn't easy.
 
@drachenstern of course
 
4:28 AM
Anything that depends on rituals I find somewhat suspect. But it's not my job to decide who's for real and who isn't.
 
Though judging from the fact one can't purchase alcohol and could not until recently purchase cigarettes here, I suspect the denomination wouldn't interest me :P
 
@Trufa do the parishioners pray to the saints or only to Christ?
@mmyers wouldn't that rather be the definition of religion? Deciding who is right and who is wrong by your personal moral compass?
 
I'm not very familiar to the word parishioners are those the "followers"
 
@mootinator haha! true. Sad but true.
@Trufa yeah, the people in the body of the church
> An inhabitant of a parish, esp. one who belongs to or attends a particular church
 
Then both.
 
4:30 AM
FX: Blade -> The pool scene on the roof :D
And Frost is inside watching his laptop with Blade's momma
> Translation Complete
 
@drachenstern Yes. But I can't say whether someone else is a Christian or not. Romans 14:4: "Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand."
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@Trufa are they aware that the book that is the core of the religion says to not do that one very thing?
 
@drachenstern You have to admit though. They know how to eat bacon.
 
In other words, that's above my pay grade.
 
@mmyers oh, that's totally different. I just go by you should meet with others headed in the same direction every so often
@mootinator nom nom nom
BACON!
Did you see the board game image I posted last night?
yesterday, by drachenstern
user image
 
4:32 AM
Nice
> Tempt a vegan.
 
@mmyers Ya know, I think he was the only Christian who really understood what it meant to be a Christian back then ... Or at least, of all the surviving historical record to this point
 
That's why you write the letters, I guess.
 
@mmyers :\ ... >.> ... :\
 
Multitudinous punctuation bewilders me.
 
@drachenstern I'm sorry I run out of battery
I'm back
 
4:35 AM
@Trufa it happens
 
give me a sec I'm searching sothing (saint related)
 
@mmyers and a lack of bewildered the early transcripters ;)
 
No doubt. There are still places in my "modern" translation that I'm pretty sure they put the period in the wrong spot.
 
Ha.
 
@drachenstern
Catholic devotions are "external practices of piety" which are not part of the official liturgy of the Catholic Church but are part of the popular spiritual practices of Catholics.[3][4] Catholic devotions do not become part of liturgical worship, even if they are performed within a Catholic church, in a group, in the presence of a priest.[5] The Congregation for Divine Worship at the Vatican publishes a Directory of devotions and pious practices.[6]
 
4:37 AM
Time to go to bed. Remember to buy everyone's apps!
 
@Trufa so long as it's condoned within the chapel proper it is part of the core belief system, and I don't care what they say about "personal decisions" ...
 
@drachenstern just in case I will play devil advocate here, I am not in any way a close minded christian or anything like that. I am very skeptical myself
 
@mmyers night. I bought my own! (it's not even written yet ;) )
@Trufa oh I could tell, it's why I didn't think you are a Catholic (but given your country that you live in ...)
 
@drachenstern what does my country have to do?
 
@Trufa most South American countries have a heavy Catholic influence, at least historically. Well more than most other countries on the planet. The cultures all originated from Spanish religious soldiers.
I realize that was 3-400 years ago, but given how our country runs and it was founded by religious extremists
 
4:41 AM
@drachenstern ohh that, sorry, the thing is, uruguay is different to most of latin amrica in that way, the state got more heavily separated from the church than enywhere else
 
Sorry, religious and capitalist extremists ;) and the landholding wealthy elitists ...
 
@drachenstern those are big words
 
@Trufa I've heard a lot of South American people say that about their individual countries ;)
@Trufa and yet they fit ;)
 
@drachenstern hehehe fair enough, but this one is kind of true, I mean in actions.
 
@Trufa I think that all of the SA countries are starting to (like in the past 40 years, compared to 400+ is not that long) have a renaissance of that sort, and all the urbanization is leading to a more diverse population in that regard.
Not that it's a bad thing, it just means culturally people are trying to find what fits for them now, not what fit for their great grandparents
@TimStone I just realized I got recalced under the 2k limit :(
 
4:45 AM
@drachenstern well, that might me true.
@drachenstern I thnk there are easier things to critize catholics with
 
@drachenstern Man, you suck. Stop talking politics and go answer newbs.
 
@Shog9 I know ... but @You keeps beating me to them ...
 
The one that bugs be the most is probably divorce
@drachenstern really!
damn
 
@Shog9 Government is for suckers.
 
@Trufa how's that?
 
4:47 AM
> What we really need is anarchy. With a strong anarchist as leader.
 
Just to put that in perspective, some folks lost about as much rep as @drachenstern has left...
 
@drachenstern divoreced people can't commulgate(?)
 
@Shog9 well yeah, I knew that :p
@mootinator so like what we have now?
 
@drachenstern Ha.
Apparently my "minor" is too detached from software development to get a stackexchange.
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Theatre

Proposed Q&A site for those who professionally work in and study theatre (directors, actors, designers, students, etc.)

Currently in definition.

 
@drachenstern I judge you not a sit-com lover, and I judge you not like a Friends fan, but I thnk you might enjoy this youtube.com/watch?v=cXr2kF0zEgI
 
4:58 AM
@Trufa I would except this laptop doesn't have speakers for some reason (I imagine something is loose inside) and I don't want to get out my headphones at this time of night. Also, I've probably seen it ... ;)
But I'll bookmark it and check it later
 
@drachenstern he ok, definitly not a classic but that scene I really enjoyed
Will watch lie to me season finale
 
What is "Adams Phone Number?" and why is it pinned?
I presume it's Adam Davis's number? Is that really worth pinning?
 
@drachenstern He might forget it otherwise. I'd write it on his underwear, but...
 
@Shog9 yeah, I wouldn't want to go near potential skidmarks either ;)
 
5:10 AM
can't remember all his phone numbers anymore, even though he's pretty sure 2 of them are sequential.
 
I only have the one ... 5441 and I'll let you sleuth the first 6 out of the fact that I carry an iPhone
Really it boils down to can you pick the second three right
 
@mootinator Yeah... Apparently, I have an office number that doesn't even ring anything - I haven't had a desk phone in several years.
(But it has my melodious voice in recorded form to sooth any hapless callers)
 
@drachenstern There's a specific AT&T mobile exchange where you live I take it?
 
@mootinator no, more than one. That provides all the fun for me. I've given the important part (the last four) and there's only the one area code
 
658
 
5:17 AM
No
 
All of them.
 
@drachenstern I love it!
 
@Trufa yay reddit
OMG
 
@drachenstern I assumed that the moement I saw it :)
 
My phone number is in the phonebook, but you can't find it.
 
5:23 AM
@Trufa yeah I liked that one too
 
@drachenstern liked your better though...
Uruguay national bank has been hacked...
 
lol zombie fortress
 
Okay, time to stop this not going to bed business.
 
@mootinator I think I have the same problem
 
I'm in a similar situation
 
5:32 AM
I've been up for 19.5 hours.
Might as well just skip sleeping.
 
5:43 AM
@Jin, isn't Ippudo the place you rave about? It is on the Food Network now (which is probably a repeat). (:
 
Jin
@RebeccaChernoff yeah. best ramen ever
 
yeah, that's what they're talking about
 
@Shog9 @RebeccaChernoff ... well re:
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A: Should we cap reputation gained from questions at +2000?

wafflesI am for this system provided there is an adjustment: Cap question rep at 500 Allow for another 500 rep more from questions per 2000 rep gained. Question rep means, all rep generated by question upvotes and accepts. Overall this change will affect less than 1000 users on Stack Overflow. ...

 
I'm going to sleep now...
 
turns out some people will have negative rep cause they were bounty happy
how should we deal with it?
 
5:44 AM
mmm, now they're talking about alaskan king crab
 
@Trufa g'night
 
thanks! see you guys tomorrow!
 
Jin
@RebeccaChernoff i'm watching it now too... now i'm hungry.
 
Dang it, stop talking about food. :P
 
I have a severe weakness for alaskan king crab
 
5:46 AM
Tonkotsu ramen is the best human invention yet .
 
@RebeccaChernoff who doesn't?
 
ok, no more alaskan king crab on tv
 
Jin
@Reno it is!
 
you were saying something @waffles? >_<
 
Fortunately I bought myself ice cream at the store tonight for just such an occasion as you guys discussing food. Brb with a nice ice cream cone
@waffles let them go negative and only show as 1 for a long time?
 
5:48 AM
@drachenstern that don't work, they will just cancel the account cause they will never get past 1
I will change the routine to disallow less than 1 rep, at any phase of the recalc
 
@waffles, clarify: the rep recalc will result in rep being lost or the user will actually end up with negative rep?
 
@waffles as I understand it the people in question from this really never "contributed" to the site as it was.
 
Jin
 
@RebeccaChernoff negative
 
Jin
^ i miss nyc japanese food
 
5:49 AM
@Jin Man, I actually miss NYC.
 
@RebeccaChernoff stackoverflow.com/users/82368/kunjan-kshetri has spent over 4000 on bounties and will be capped at 500
 
@Jin damn you. Now I do too, and I've never been in NYC and eaten Japanese food there. But I can see from the picture that the food is absolutely mouth watering.
 
Jin
Tonkotsu ramen and Yakitori(skewers)
 
@waffles you're really getting in the way of the food talk here, c'mon man!
hides
 
food sure looks tasty @Jin
needs more bacon though
 
Jin
5:51 AM
@waffles true. everything can be better with moar bacon
 
@waffles damn, now I'm torn between saying "does it really" and agreeing
 
see, that makes me nervous. user has a lot of questions, yes. user has deleted questions, yes. user has a lot of 0 score questions, yes. BUT user also has significant upvotes on questions.
LAMB
 
Jin
@RebeccaChernoff that place can't be authentic because the owner speaks english.
 
may or may not have simply been paying attention to the pictures on the screen instead of the narration...
 
 
Jin
6:02 AM
Just introduced @RebeccaChernoff to No Reservations with Anthony Bourdain. Can't believe she never saw this show before!
 
I like it already!
 
Yah, it's a great show. On a side note, he drinks, a lot. lol
 
Jin
Bizarre Food is great too.
 
I haven't watched much of that show. I don't like to be grossed out by food. :) That said, it is a good show.
 
6:09 AM
I've seen Andrew Zimmern in real life
:)
 
Jin
that's the funniest scene.
 
@Reno Oh yeah? He seems like an interesting person. Someone I would like to drink with, but not get into a drinking contest. :)
 
He came to my home town for this episode and I was at one of the restaurants he ate at
 
@Reno Seriously?
 
yup :)
 
6:11 AM
Nice.
 
I did not know about bizzare foods before that
 
@Jin LOL
 
Jin
@GeorgeMarian i'd totally hang out with Anthony Bourdain
@GeorgeMarian and i think i can out eat that Man vs. Food dude...
 
Also do you know Camille from Food wars ?
 
6:12 AM
ha, I've had that face before. hmm, what was it...from Japan...pickled plum I think
 
@Jin He's nothing special, except for the fact that he takes on a lot of hot/spicy stuff.
 
she's on vyou.com/camille
 
@Reno I may have watched that show once or twice.
 
Jin
anyone living in DC area? I've started a local foodie meetup thing
 
holy eff
> 444 Stack Overflow communities
 
6:15 AM
(:
meetup.com/everywhere <<< we climbed a lot there today
 
Jin
@RebeccaChernoff i see the site message helped.
 
mm
grrr, meetup is doing that fun "hey we're not gonna load the page for you" thing again ):
 
6:52 AM
except 23 ... I'm old
2
and I'm going to bed
ciao ciao
 
@drachenstern lol
 
Jin
that list is depressing
 
Jin
#4 is false for me still!
 
It's been truer in the past few years for me.
 
7:17 AM
that list is tl;dr for me
 
7:43 AM
anyone else noticed that there are already 4 iOS/iPhone/iPad related chats on Stackoverflow? I think its great that people can easily create chats, but having 4 different rooms (all empty) on the same topic seems kind of pointless
 
Well, if consolidated, there'd be one room...also empty. ;)
 
@Robin flag any message from those rooms for the moderator
 
@Ge
@GeorgeMarian true, but at least when there are two people in the chats that want to talk about this topic they know to which room to go
 
@Robin Yeah, that was a joke. :)
 
Jin
i just made a pack of bacon. mm
 
7:47 AM
@Jin As in an entire pound?
 
Jin
i don't know the weight.. but the whole pack
 
I think they're typically a pound, though I'll admit that I'm not sure.
@Jin I hope you're not planning on eating it all at once.
 
Jin
oh i am... i always do
 
Jin
i've had so many different types of bacon. i still think Hormel Black Label is the best. and you can get that from any grocery store.
 
7:50 AM
I still haven't found a brand I like best. They all seem to have one issue or another.
 
I love this comic (:
 
Oh, hey @Jin, you'd be a good person to ask about this. Say I want to display a large collection of images in a horizontal scrolling area. Can I do it somehow without resorting to a huge width on the container? (That is, without using tables.)
 
Jin
@GeorgeMarian one row of images?
 
Jin
then you can just use a div, and float the images left
 
7:56 AM
Yah, but the containing div needs a width that encompasses it all.
If they're in a crazy wide table, it just works w/o needing to get funkty w/ the widths.
Basically, I want to verity my assumption that I would need to specify a width to encompass all of the images if I were to do it without a table.
 
Jin
@GeorgeMarian you want to scroll with browser's h. scrollbar?
 
@Jin Yup.
 
Jin
@GeorgeMarian you can also try it like this too fashionphotographer.it
well, depends on the nature of the images.
 
I tried talking the client into jQuery carousel (for various reasons) but he didn't want that.
 
Jin
i think table may be the easiest way
if you use div, you may have to calculate the total width.
 
8:01 AM
So far, it seems like the only way
@Jin Right, exactly what I'd like to avoid.
 
Jin
you can try a div with display: table; but i don't think it really behaves like one
 
Hmm..interesting idea. It's worth a shot, at least.
Thanks for your input. You may return your attention to the bacon now. ;)
 
Jin
they're all gone now...
 
mmmm.....BACON...damn it, now I want some.
 
Jin
user image
3
 
8:05 AM
I think I may have one slice of bacon left in the fridge. I was saving it for something. Oh, yah...the gf was gonna make some chicken and bacon something or another.
@Jin LOL
Heh. If everyone were using Chrome, I could just set a crazy wide width that would work in all cases and it would display the way I want it to (without extra space).
 
Oh my! I just saw that the Atheism site didn't make it.
@Jin there goes your opportunity to talk about divine guidance while creating their design :)
 
Oh, that reminds me. I should check on the Around the Water Cooler proposal.
 
Jin
8:26 AM
@Pekkastrollingaccount maybe it never had a prayer..
 
@Jin yeah. It's no good starting a project without the good Lord's blessing. They should have thunk of that. If they start it again, I'll bring it up on their Meta.
 
 
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9:49 AM
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 6 mins ago, by Fasttracks

back link

put your website url to add in google. you can put your appsto...
 
10:17 AM
@YiJiang SEO: nice try.
 
Awww, that's almost 2000 sparkly unicorn Meta rep gone for me :( Ah well...
Eh, I'm getting YSOD on chat.stackoverflow.com
@waffles halp!!
 
10:38 AM
hello
 
@OctavianDamiean Hello.
 
Is SO chat down only for me?
 
I'm in Root Access [SU] The comms room [SF] and The Tavern [SO] all Ok.
 
@tombull89 SO chat
 
Ma bad. SO Chat fine for me.
 
10:49 AM
Okay, totally weird. Why isn't it working for me...?
 
11:06 AM
the main site API was broken, should be fixed now, @YiJiang
 
@balpha Still down
 
Has anyone used "Dynamic C" from Rabbit ?
 
@badpssockpuppet are you getting a lolcat or a YSOD?
 
@balpha YSOD
so no error message in the comments :/
 
0
Q: Why do I get "Runtime Error" when I click "chat" on stackoverflow.com menu

Server Error in '/' Application. Runtime Error using Windows IE9

But its back up for me
 
11:23 AM
There are now 99,999 questions tagged PHP on SO.
 
11:42 AM
@TimPost Time to ask how to move the turtle in PHP?
@YiJiang Same here, chat.SO is back up :)
 

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