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12:42 AM
@TheOutOfStarsException Josh still here?
 
1:19 AM
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I JUST BOUGHT meta.so!
 
YOU
Congrats!
 
@TheOutOfStarsException No.
@Jacob eh say what?
 
@drachenstern I bought meta.so
 
as in meta.so that is currently a landing domain?
 
the domain
Yep
 
1:26 AM
How did you buy a landing domain? Or did they make it a landing domain because you haven't done anything with it yet?
 
The latter
See this post
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A: Hey SO, Won't you take Meta.SO domain?

JacobNope, its mine now..... Jeff, check my profile for my email and I'll let you know where to send the nice give us that domain paper, though I only intend to cname it to Meta.Stackoverflow.com Don't trust me? Here is proof !

 
@Jacob so?
 
@mootinator idk, i think its cool
 
I think it's cool too.
I'm just jealous.
-1
 
YOU
jacob@meta.so is cool! make it :-)
 
1:34 AM
I expect you to make a subdomain for each se2.0 site, even though it isn't se.
 
YOU
it is dedicated to meta.so , not related to stack exchange
 
Apparently my sentences are too long.
 
@mootinator the domains are 23 a piece
everything can be xx.meta.so
 
YOU
right!
 
That's a subdomain.
 
1:36 AM
Seriously @Jacob? This is your reasoning? I'm going to shame you publicly on this one. It most likely is but I'm 15 and that means I refuse to see the consequences,if(when) SOIS asks for the domain, I will happily give it to them. – Jacob 5 secs ago "I purposely refuse to acknowledge the results of my actions" ... Wow, good job kid. You wonder why that gets pointed out about the young, it's because those of us over 30 (twice yours) realize that we're still incompetent even at this age.
 
lol
 
@drachenstern :(
I just changed it
 
@Jacob no no no. You don't get to say "I refuse to acknowledge that my actions have consequences" and then go ":(" ... does NOT WORK
 
before you posted your comment
I realized how dumb it was
 
Before I hit enter I weighed if mine was dumb or not.
Slight difference. Age adds some perspective. Experience adds more.
"Hey jeff, suckit. IF you want this domain, gimme a job" also is immature.
 
1:39 AM
@drachenstern I don't think, I never said that either, when he asks for it, I'll give it to him, nothing asked
 
YOU
@drachenstern, I don't think he actually meant that.
 
@YOU which?
 
I really need to work on that, I'm either too quiet or too loud, in this case too loud
 
I'm sure Jacob would give it to Jeff for the asking, no problem.
 
YOU
and @jacob, you don't actually have to give it to jeff, its a fair game.
 
1:40 AM
@YOU This. I totally agree with this.
 
YOU
@drachenstern, I meant for "Hey jeff, suckit. IF you want this domain, gimme a job" also is immature"
 
In fact, I was going to ask Zypher if I should point it too SO's DNS
 
@Jacob When he asks you to de-alias it for "consistency" host a clone site.
 
@Jacob NO. Do Not Do.
 
@drachenstern ?
 
YOU
1:42 AM
@mootinator, thats not a good idea, imho.
 
I mean, look, it's up to you if you want to do that with the domain you just bought, but you should not feel obligated to do that
 
YOU
that could be phishing
 
@YOU They have a trade mark, its theirs.
 
I'm full of good ideas.
 
@YOU that's what I'm thinking.
@Jacob not on "meta.so"
who was it, Wil Wheaton? that his son posted something about like ____IsAwesome.com and then somebody bought it for him?
 
1:43 AM
@drachenstern I'd prefer it if you edit your comment, I feel bad for what I posted and how wrong it was, but I edited before you put that.
You are fully correct, I do show my age, and wonder why, and that didn't help at all.
 
@Jacob a) you waited too long to ask me to edit, and b) now that it has upvotes I won't delete it and re-add it. That's the legacy of the SO system. Things get "locked in" and it's on you to think before you hit enter.
 
@drachenstern I understand
 
won the "battle" lost the "war" on this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/5560176/java-is-integer-immutable/… =)
 
@MarkElliot I had a similar today, but imo worse. The guy has an HTML parser setup and accepts an answer parsing it with 2 splits :(
 
YOU
1:53 AM
@jacob, drachenstern is right, "Stack Overflow" is their trademark, not "SO". of course "meta.so" also not. they are different
 
@JakubHampl ah wow
 
@YOU True, but I have a feeling I'll get a lot of frowns for this
 
@Jacob nah, not a lot, I don't think.
 
@drachenstern I'm semi worried about the comment, I feel rather bad about it,
 
@Jacob don't be.
 
1:56 AM
is enjoying a delicious bowl of pizza
 
So here's something to remember. The things which have been done have been done.
You cannot change the past, you can only live for the future.
 
@mootinator pizza=bowl WTF?
 
Do the right thing.
But go forward.
 
@drachenstern right
 
@Jacob Future potential employers are going to read @drachenstern's evisceration of you and hire someone else.
 
1:58 AM
@mootinator The odds of that are wildly low
 
@mootinator probably. I'm currently paying them off right now so that nobody hires him, but that would be much cheaper.
 
YOU
@mootinator, you are joking right?
 
@mootinator Eh, thats fine, I made the mistake,
@drachenstern Sir, I have a job
 
@YOU I usually am.
 
@Jacob See. This is what I mean. Obviously I'm not paying them enough!
 
1:59 AM
@drachenstern I'm not hiring him; where's my check?
 
@MichaelMrozek I thought you already cashed it from the secret account...
 
@drachenstern Hey, pay me enough and I won't even apply!
 
@Jacob lol
 
hows that sound
 
good catch ;)
 
2:00 AM
@Jacob My wife is gone for two weeks so I'm eating out of weird dishes and such.
I could do dishes.
Then again, I could do them tomorrow, if I eat pizza out of a bowl.
 
@mootinator indeed!
I need to go get my dinner off the stove
 
@YOU I like how I answered your question haha I guess I did really
Quite honestly
 
why is it that users too often tell us the exception or the location of the exception but rarely both?
 
If they want it they can have it, all I'm doing is Cnaming to meta.stackoverflow.com
 
@MarkElliot because they don't know how to troubleshoot in the first place.
 
2:03 AM
@drachenstern indeed
 
I'll be at the regional voting ring establishment meetup tomorrow, so I guess dishes will have to wait 'til Thursday.
 
If they knew how to triage the problem they wouldn't have as many problems
@mootinator you too? :p I made a reference to that earlier too :p
 
YOU
@Jacob, yep, I liked that too. Thats why I accepted.
 
@drachenstern Ah, I missed that.
 
@mootinator I imagine I made it offline somewhere
 
2:04 AM
Right.
We don't talk about voting rings on this site.
We have to do it somewhere else. I'm so forgetful.
 
@mootinator Too late now
:)
 
lmao
ok, food
 
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Q: downloading a file

v.balagopalif while downloading a file the internet connection is lost i've to start downloading from the start. is there any way to start from where the dowloading was stopped due to external reasons

wth?
 
YOU
64k connection?
 
@YOU maybe a 56k connection ;)
 
2:09 AM
@MarkElliot Wow I gardenpathed at the first two words.
 
@JakubHampl I parsed a few times then decided it probably has nothing to do with code, but rather downloading a file from a site with a .php extension on the download script....
 
@MarkElliot I'm gonna predict this is a SU question in disguise
 
YOU
@Mark, Ah I forgot, some US circuits still using 56k channels.
 
@drachenstern not sure SU is even the right place for this
 
Close then?
 
2:11 AM
Let's wait and see ...
It's a 1 rep user, this is probably their first go (haven't checked yet)
 
@drachenstern it is.
 
Yep, they registered just to ask this
 
@JakubHampl Let's make sure and see if the user responds to my comment?
 
@MarkElliot Sounds reasonable.
Anyway I need to sleep so good night.
 
wonders how it got to be 8:15 :/
 
2:16 AM
@mootinator There was originally this big wave of energy that partially collapsed into matter, and that matter formed atomic components, which coalesced into atoms which turned into molecules which eventually became stars ... and then the Earth was formed, and then ...
 
@drachenstern Skip to the part where people decided to divide a day into 24 segments.
 
@mootinator That's gonna take a little bit. I have a feeling your kid is gonna be driving by then ...
 
@drachenstern for 5 years or so?
 
@Jacob I am pretty sure moots kid is younger than that, no?
 
@drachenstern I mean I don't think you have even hit the starting of life( talking about the scientific way in order not to offend)
Amino acids made peptide soup...
 
2:20 AM
oh, yeah, that was the idea
Glad to see I'm not too obtuse :p
 
@drachenstern sorry?
@drachenstern I think its better than telling a religious story; though you can believe how ever you wish. Virginia DOE tells me I better believe that for my end of course....
 
@Jacob lol. that's too funny
 
have I hit the rep cap if I've earned 260 today with 4 accepts?
or do I need one more upvote?
 
On SO?
 
on SO
does the new reputation stuff show zero-point upvotes?
 
YOU
2:37 AM
@Mark, you mean when you hit rep cap?
 
@YOU I do, looking through my rep history it seems it does
I'm not sure of any other way to know I've actually hit it
except to get zero-point upvotes
 
YOU
it shows upvote without anything on left side
 
though incidentally, I just got a couple
so I'm good to go now
 
You goto the graph, and click on the bar for today
@MarkElliot amazing how that happens around here so often :p
 
not bad for 2 hours of work =)
@drachenstern ah, clicking the bar is a much better view
 
2:40 AM
@MarkElliot yep
 
well
 
Meta.so won't even work right now, I need Zypher to add a host header so, sorry @you
 
@YOU that's not good enough, since you don't really max-out with answer accepts
 
YOU
you don't have to cname it @jacob
 
2:42 AM
@Jacob you can put a 300 redirect on the site as a php page
 
@YOU I really wish it showed accepts in a different color on the bar
 
@MarkElliot yeah but when the chart shows a bunch of no-point scoring actions ... that's capped
 
@drachenstern true, I'll do that
 
@MarkElliot go ahead and answer about 10 more questions tomorrow just to be sure tho ;)
 
@drachenstern clicking on the bar shows the no-point actions, and that's definitive
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Q: Different colors for different rep types in the new reputation graph

Martin ScharrerThe new reputation graph is nice and the gray line at 200rep is also useful. However it would be great when the different forms of reputation (votes, accepted answers, bounties, ...) would be colored differently. Especially the two groups of capped rep (votes, +2 for wiki edits, ...) and uncapped...

that'll fix my problem
 
YOU
2:46 AM
@Jacob, did you really intend to edit your answer with "enter image description here" link to screen shot?
 
@YOU no, I just never fill that in :)
WTF? It dropped my image
are you fixing it currently? or shall I?
 
YOU
I am not fixing it now, go ahead
 
@YOU ok
@YOU fixed I dropped the 2 !s
 
YOU
ok
@jacob, btw, you're not alone, some people took, metaso.com and redirected to personal web site :P
 
metaso.com
really?
 
YOU
2:54 AM
search his name, he is SO User
 
@YOU well, I feel like I'm doing the semi right thing
though
I will keep Jacob@meta.so though :)
as in the email
 
YOU
yeah, thats nice
 
I see this. But he's not active on meta ...
 
YOU
yeah, you're right, may be thats not intentional, but still same name :D
 
Ok folks, time to walk ze ole mutt and then to bed. I've got to try and get some for real sleep tonight ...
 
2:56 AM
ok folks, see ya later
 
YOU
good night!
 
hmmm it appears chrome doesn't even know .so exists
 
it does for me so ...
 
YOU
it does for me too
did you cname it?
I got "Couldn't find meta.so
The Q&A site meta.so doesn't seem to exist…yet." with panda
 
@YOU Yeah, I need to get Zypher to add that or I'll 300 it
 
YOU
3:02 AM
@Jacob, do you think they will approve it to domain that they don't own?
 
@YOU good point
but I can't really do much
its only a host header
 
YOU
Imm, I am not sure, if you host it, openid will not work. and cookie coundn't share through seperate domain.
just enjoy email address with meta.so :-) if you are kind enough redirect it.
 
@YOU I didn't even think about that, I'll 300 it
 
YOU
I see
 
@YOU well, they use HTML5 global storage, I'll ask Zypher how he wants me to do it
 
YOU
3:06 AM
ok
 
@TimStone: Did you finish making those changes to the chat.SE script?
 
@JakubHampl No, I hadn't. Thanks.
 
@GeorgeEdison I imagined the system wouldn't have notified you.
 
@JakubHampl Hmmmm... I'm having trouble reproducing.
Is anyone getting errors from the script?
Nvm... I reproduced on SuperUser :)
 
3:15 AM
The question is: is it on my part or on yours?
 
I think it's on mine.
I'll take a good look at it and find out.
 
@GeorgeEdison HMm do I need to update the script?
 
@Jacob Which script?
 
@GeorgeEdison FHC on the server?
7 hours ago, by Jacob
I just had an epiphany, all the people that use FHC including mods, the images are stored on my server, and I can edit them at will and for what ever reason I wish.
 
I'm afraid I don't get it...
...why does it need updating?
 
3:18 AM
@GeorgeEdison I thought you updated server side
 
@Jacob No, I haven't updated anything server-side yet.
I may soon though to add support for other sites.
 
@GeorgeEdison please do
 
@JakubHampl Have you changed the code that executes for the load event?
 
@GeorgeEdison Since when?
 
Oh... I think you've changed the directory layout too.
Hang on... lemme get it all together here.
What are the .coffee files?
 
3:22 AM
@GeorgeEdison .coffee?
 
@Jacob Sorry, that was for @Jakub.
There's two of you with (almost) the same name... sorry for the confusion!
 
@JakubHampl Are you German?
 
It's all compiled into the concatenation.js file.
@Jacob Nope, though almost.
 
@JakubHampl ah you use the German spelling
 
3:24 AM
I'm originally from the Czech republic.
 
@JakubHampl Ah, so the .coffee files really can be ignored?
 
Yep
 
Hrm.
.coffee. I could use some soup.
 
@JakubHampl Any chance that some part of the tool is setting window.callback ?
 
@Jacob Here in Scotland no one can spell it right.
@GeorgeEdison I doubt it, but I'll have a look.
 
3:27 AM
@JakubHampl It's okay... I'll just rename mine.
 
There are callback on anonymous objects, but that shouldn't be on window.
 
Ah! I think I found the bug.
 
Great. What was it?
 
Lemme just check...
Nope... still got one more bug to fix.
 
@GeorgeEdison need any help writing the scripts/bug fixing?
 
3:34 AM
@Jacob Thanks, but I think I almost got it.
 
@GeorgeEdison ah Ok
@GeorgeEdison do you want to shift those Downloads to my server?
 
@Jacob The toolkit UserScript?
@JakubHampl This time I fixed it and tested it.
It should work now.
 
@GeorgeEdison yeah, that or anything else really, I think I utilize 5% power
 
@GeorgeEdison Thanks. Can you post a quick comment on that answer?
 
@JakubHampl Just did!
@Jacob Well, that's very generous... however, the script is auto-generated with another PHP script which retrieves the source from GitHub.
 
3:39 AM
@GeorgeEdison BTW are you considering releasing that?
 
@JakubHampl Releasing what?
 
@GeorgeEdison The script that autogenerates the extension?
 
@GeorgeEdison I'm curious why that matters?
 
@Jacob Well... it doesn't really if you're comfortable running a PHP script by setting up a cron job.
 
@GeorgeEdison I can do that
 
3:42 AM
@JakubHampl I might if everyone promises not to laugh at my code :)
I threw it together in a hurry.
 
I won't since I was too lazy to do it myself ;)
I just get a bit nervous when doing a new release since there's no way for me to test whether the userscript version will work.
 
@JakubHampl Okay. I'll set it up so that the code is visible.
Just give me a few minutes... and thanks for writing the script in the first place :)
 
There you go... auto-generated from the source code file :)
I'll walk you through it...
- The script fetches the ZIP archive from GitHub
- It gets extracted
- The script creates a file 'output.js' and begins populating it with the .js files from the folder.
- The 'concatenation.js' is handled seperately... it needs to have window.addEventListener('load', replaced with another function that stashes it in an array.
 
Yep it's actually very readable.
 
3:48 AM
- At the end of the file, a small stub is added that invokes all of the load event handlers.
@JakubHampl Whew! I'm glad to hear that.
 
I was afraid you were parsing the .plist - that would make things complicated.
I might modify it a bit tomorrow and see if I can make it a part of my build process.
 
 
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7:30 AM
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Q: App Rejected due to Forbidden Api - InitWithData : Cache - iPhone

OhnomycocoHi all, I wonder if anyone can help. My app has been rejected by Apple for the following reason : We found the following non-public API/s in your app: initWithData:cache: This is my code : NSData *imageData = [NSData dataWithContentsOfURL:[NSURL URLWithString:[details image]]]; picture = [[U...

Please close folks. It's off topic.
 
 
1 hour later…
8:45 AM
^ Stay till the end for Unicorns and Rainbows!
 
9:03 AM
@Pekkastrollingaccount your work is on show at Google's Sydney headquarters: de.foursquare.com/nolim1t/checkin/…
 
9:20 AM
@balpha hahaha, nice!
 
9:44 AM
Is there a timeframe when the new graduated SE sites will be added to the SEDE? WordPress is included in the data dump but I can't find it in the data explorer
 
9:57 AM
I thought it was dynamic now, but maybe waffles still has to add them manually
 
 
1 hour later…
10:58 AM
We could play the worlds most twisted version of "where's Waldo" with just ONE inflatable unicorn.
 
$2/£1.23 each? what's SE's main office address? :P
 
@tombull89 I was actually contemplating that
 
too bad april 1st has gone past.
 
We could have a youtube contest .. "Feature request ... or THE UNICORN GETS IT.."
 
or anime eyes one dozen unicorns for $20
I think we'll give the inflatable cows and elephants a miss though...
 
11:06 AM
So if 10 of us had one dozen inflatable unicorns shipped to NY ... Hmmmmm
2
 
any team's birthdays due?
 
Crap. Amazon doesn't accept million unicorn bills
 
chuckle you'd get a lot of unicorns for that.
for anybody reading the chat logs for suspension evidence after SE HQ get's flooded with inflatable unicorns, it wasn't my idea...not all of it anyway.
 
I think they'd be thrilled :)
they could put them all up in front of the building
imagine 120 unicorns here: maps.google.de/…
 
looks up - whoa
 
11:21 AM
hello :)
O.O inflatable unicorns?! I WANT!! :D
 
welcome to MSO, where the unicorns come alive.
 
11:38 AM
@balpha holy shizzle, I didn't think they were actually based there. thought you just picked that cause of the name.
colour me impressed :P
 
Hi folks, can I request a help from people with enough privileges on SO (or almighty moderators) to approve websockets tag as synonym to websocket tag?
 
@tombull89 it's actually 55 Broadway, but the house is called "One Exchange Plaza" (Exchange plaza is that tiny way on the right). And that sounds a lot better, especially after the company name change :)
 
@balpha what was it called before the name change?
 
Stack Overflow Internet Services Inc.
 
yeah does make a bit more sense now.
 
 
1 hour later…
12:50 PM
uh oh @Jacob and @drachenstern... looks like a META FIGHT!!!!!
I'm not getting in the middle of this one... While @drachenstern makes some very good points I think the fact that I bought backwardsmile.info means I should remain quiet here...
 
It looked like one like 8 hours ago; I think it's been over for some time
 
@MichaelMrozek True but I was sleeping then!
Forgive me for weighing in late :-p
 
Is there a reason the hover for the [stackoverflow] tag on MSO doesn't show subscriber info?
 
1:22 PM
looks good for me
on an unrelated note, there's waaay too much txtspeech happening on chat.SO
 
Mc Donalds is giving out free cofee! this is a great morning, never been so awake in my job in a long time!
 
@Trufa they are? This is great because my coffee maker is still packed!
 
@TheOutOfStarsException yep, you just would have to trouble 10k km and it would be yours
and hurry because you've got half an hour
 
@Trufa actually it's right down the road!
 
@balpha But I don't get this in an incognito window in Chrome, only when I'm logged in
Other tags do show the followers, only [stackoverflow] acts weird
I also get it in Safari and Firefox 3.6 (on Mac OS X), but only when I'm logged in
 
1:34 PM
that's exceptionally weird
(I don't see it in porn mode either -- looks okay for me)
 
I don't think I ever subscribed to any tag - where can I check that?
 
Where can give an idea for chatrooms ?!
should i post it as a question ?
hem?
 
@JanFabry can you open the chrome dev tools and look at what the response from /tags/stackoverflow/subscriber-info looks like when you hover the tag?
 
@balpha <div><div class="tm-heading"><span class="tm-sub-info"><a title="add this tag to your favorites" class="tm-favorite-off">&#9733;</a> stackoverflow<span style="float:right;"><a href="/feeds/tag/stackoverflow">rss</a></span></span></div> is the first part
 
@OmeidHerat if you think you have a good idea for a room, why not create it yourself?
 
1:38 PM
Then it continues with the description
 
anyone likes to answer my question ?
 
I just did
 
and my question? ^^
 
@TheOutOfStarsException he I guess it must be an international campaign or so.
 
1:55 PM
why i got this message below the profile views ," Network profile"
 
@balpha where ?
oh my bad just saw it.
an idea for all rooms
here we have the moderator will ask here.
@RebeccaChernoff Hey
 
@JanFabry it's weird -- that's the response that's generated if tag subscriptions are disabled on the site -- but they were never disabled on meta. I suspect there was a glitch in the site settings (possible your first request happened during an application start up). that response is cached, that's why you keep seeing it.
just click the star; favoriting invalidates the cache
 
@balpha So it's a per-user cache then?
 
yep
 
no not idea of creating a room
 
1:59 PM
@balpha And indeed, I starred and unstarred it and it works!
 
@RebeccaChernoff Eh, Xcode 4 has a similar feature built in. I don't know how customizable it is, but you can show alerts when build events occur. And, it has some other crazy things, like announcements.
 
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