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2:26 AM
Apparently IE is now so bad that they don't even attempt to advertise features anymore.
 
@animuson Yeah, I loved that Firefox commercial that went over all the new improvements in the latest version, that was a great commercial.
 
3:04 AM
Such an ass.
 
@animuson I don't think saying things like "The new IE10 has support for the HTML5 File API and XMLHTTPRequest 2!" is going to appeal to many people
 
The IE effect
 
@jadarnel27 who, me?
 
Don't repel women by using Chrome or Firefox... Internet Explorer. It will make you sexy.
 
@jcolebrand Haha, who else?
 
3:12 AM
Potentially someone else... Like people you interact with in real life.
Just wanted to point out that Chrome has done like 2 commercials.
 
Oh, no. Just you =)
 
@jadarnel27 I thought it was well established that casperOne was your default ass.
 
Exactly what is Microsoft supposed to advertise in their browser TV ads?
 
@mootinator Ah, good point.
 
@jcolebrand Is that the potato cannon ad?
 
3:15 AM
@TimYiJiang well, I've only seen like two ads. One was for a dad showing his children growing up or something, and one was like "we're the fastest" or something.
 
And Opera did a parody of it
 
3:36 AM
casperOne just rubs me the wrong way. And I've given him ample opportunity to rub me the right way. Yet, each time, he disappoints.
 
 
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6:13 AM
@jadarnel27 Do you see what happens when you say stuff like that? We had to shut down the internet for three full hours.
 
6:29 AM
lol
 
6:45 AM
@TimStone My bad. I will try to control the level of the strangeness of my outbursts.
=)
I just made soup for the first time.
 
Did you make enough for the rest of the class?
 
I...uh. Yes?
 
Nicely done
 
I did make far too much. Primarily because I didn't read the recipe carefully where it said "serves 4 - 6 people."
I am, in fact, just one person.
 
Then it shall serve you for many days
 
6:59 AM
Truth. I certainly wouldn't give it to anyone else ;-)
I used too much garlic. And I bought far too much garlic.
 
You can never have too much garlic. Unless you bought like ten heads, in which case that was just silly.
 
So...I definitely thought that a "clove" of garlic was the same as the head / bulb.
 
Oh, hahah
I see.
 
Luckily, I figured that out before I started preparing the food. But it called for three cloves of garlic, and I bought three heads =P
 
Good thing there's a lot of things you can use garlic for :D
 
7:06 AM
Such as an amount of food nine times greater than he had originally planned
Can't let the garlic go to waste after all
 
Hahahaha
 
This is a good point. Where can I order my gallon of home-made soup?
 
Someone bought me a cook book with an amusing title, but it has actually been really helpful =) It's what explained what a clove of garlic was before I poisoned myself.
 
whispers something and hides in the dungeon.
 
@TimStone What type of soup do you prefer? =P
 
7:11 AM
I eat mostly everything.
Mostly.
 
Congratulations, you will receive a Tupperware of minestrone that has too much garlic and onions!
 
\o/
 
Allow 2*3 to 2^3 weeks for delivery.
 
Guys and gals, is it wrong if I am pretty interested when the next election will be held for Ask Ubuntu?
 
What defines right and wrong, really?
 
7:16 AM
Things like vested interests and other weird cousins.
 
Is it wrong that I feel like punching a baby right now?
 
I suppose that is not the answer you are looking for. I spilt the beans o.O
@jadarnel27 Not until you actually end up punching one.
Are we having philosophy lessons here? I don't particularly like them.
 
Oh, come on. We can take our relative morality farther than that.
It's only wrong if the baby remembers it. How about that?
 
Or if someone witnesses you in the act.
 
@jadarnel27 I uh...I'm...gonna have to raise a brow on this one.
 
7:21 AM
And, on a relatively unrelated note, is that SE election website's url elections.stackexchange.com ?
 
Yep
Someone please remind me to finish making updates to that site |:
 
It doesn't seem to resolve for me. :/
 
Yeah, it's down at the moment do to internal transitioning presumably.
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Q: stack2rss.stackexchange.com down again

Speravirhttp://stack2rss.stackexchange.com/ and subdomains are unreachable again for some days. Other than last time (What happened to stack2rss.stackexchange.com?) there is no hurrican, at least I didn’t heard of. What happened this time and can this be fixed?

 
@TimStone Haha, I imagine most people would. That's probably headed in a directions I don't want to go with that line of joking.
 
They are not up since the Hurricane Sandy is it?
 
7:24 AM
No, they were back, but they've since disappeared again.
 
Right then.
 
That is an amusing comment from random♦.
 
Yeah, I couldn't bring myself to fix the typo.
 
I was on the opinion that that particular website had a schedule of upcoming elections. Am I right?
 
Anyway, I suspect the sysadmins are slaving away putting together the relocated NYC data center, so.
Only announced elections.
So, you'd see a post on your site's meta about it first (since that's actually what the site uses to know there's an upcoming election)
 
7:27 AM
This post is one of my favorites by random lately.
 
It made me want onion rings
 
@TimStone That would mean the site's mod would know beforehand if we have an election upcoming, I suppose.
Which makes me think we don't have one coming, after all.
 
Possibly.
 
/me poor me is disappoint.
 
@TimStone Hahaha, your mind goes straight to the food, huh?
 
7:29 AM
You can always leave out a bribe for @AnnaLear and see what she says.
@jadarnel27 What can I say, I like good food.
 
Well, thanks @TimStone.
 
Aye
 
7:50 AM
There should be a way for me to play the music that's on my phone over my Samsung Smart TV via Bluetooth. Can someone tell me how to do that? Thanks.
 
This is a movie and TV related question. But since nobody has answered it, I guess others are waiting to have views of SE employees on it. You can find it here meta.movies.stackexchange.com/questions/857/…
So if anybody has any idea, kindly post there.
 
 
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9:51 AM
I have one humble request, i was banned to ask a question because my question was down-voted because of off topic and my opinin goes against many people but now i have read faq and want to participate but my account is banned , i can not ask question
See my question and suggest me or help me in any way
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Q: Frequent Edit by owner, Should we encourage it or discourage it?

TofeeqAhmadI have gone through a case where someone gave an answer to my question and then within five minutes he/she edited it five times. This could mean two different things: They didn't know the answer, and just pasted a line to be first and reduce other people's chance of answering, since they would ...

 
 
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11:48 AM
@ThiefMaster, @balpha: Either of you want to help create a synonym?
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Q: Tag merge or burninate candidates: "tic-tac-toe" and "tictactoe"

Martijn Pieterstic-tac-toe has 102 questions, and it's competitor tictactoe a whopping 35. Shall we merge these (preferably with tictactoe added as a synonym to tic-tac-toe)? Or do we take the flamethrower to them; they do seem awfully meta to me. If these are indeed meta tags, we'd need to raze 2d-games, che...

 
@MartijnPieters Both should be synonyms for as it is properly called.
 
@DanielFischer: post that to the question too.
The name is cultural though; I know it as boter, kaas en eieren.
 
And there are no questions tagged with noughtsandcrosses
@DanielFischer: Since WikiPedia redirects Noughts and Crosses to Tic Tac Toe I arbitrarily call the latter the winner.
 
@MartijnPieters I bet you also write behavior and color.
 
12:01 PM
I married a Scot. She'd kill me if I did that.
 
Because that would make here a scout?
 
another meta tag:
burninate?
 
@MartijnPieters Must be a really boring version of Home Improvement
 
Featuring Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson and John Vlissides, yes.
With Grady Booch replacing Earl Hindman.
 
12:45 PM
My plan for today: Make many people happy. http://i.imgur.com/rs7FlDX.png
 
Blasphemy!
 
and there was much rejoicing.
 
THEY'LL LEARN TO ENCODE THEIR PARENTHESES AND THEY'LL LIKE IT!
 
How about other punctuation?
What if I wanted to share a link that expresses incredulity?!
WHAT THEN!?!
 
12:49 PM
@balpha Does it work with parentheses on both sides?
 
?
 
(url)
I remembered I have an answer related to someone asking about that and being upset that they had to use (<url>)
 
That's a different issue, but I'll look at that too. Markdown wants (^|\s) before the link, while our other autolinker (for comments etc.) is fine with \b. The latter seems to make more sense, and I can't think of any edge cases that would break there
 
nods
Ewww, someone batsignal @Jin
Of course everyone should just use proper Markdown links with a nice descriptive text anyway.
Also someone remind me to incorporate my comment link converted into the chat script for times so I can paste raw links in non-onebox situations and have that all work out fancy-like.
 
1:01 PM
I know, everyone needs to pick up the pace. Look at all those things I haven't been harassed into doing!
 
 
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2:26 PM
harasses @TimStone to do all the things
Also: make me a pizza please and thank you.
 
@jadarnel27: the correct syntax is "sudo make me a pizza"
 
Haha, @Martijn. I've found that "please" and "thank you" work better on humans. So you're right.
@Tim sudo make me a pizza.
(Using @Tim provides the best coverage)
 
Oh, I got the reference =) Thank you, though. That was considerate. I have a major obsession with that web comic.
So I try to make a conscious effort to not reference it all the time.
I've read all 1000+ comics multiple times.
 
Can't go through the week without having enjoyed the comics. :-)
Though when Randall posted that tile-based comic (huge map), that cost me a full day of productivity..
 
2:43 PM
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A: URL detecting error with address like "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octet_(computing)"

balphaFrom the next build on, trailing parenetheses in auto-linked URLs will be included in the link if they have a matching opening parenthesis in the link. In particular this covers your case, which is the most common one. In other words, these are linked as expected: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

 
3:31 PM
...seems like a fair price, I suppose.
 
The SO and META sites was down on me... the same for all ?
 
Nope, up for me.
 
Ok... we have bad weather here and some storm, so maybe some connection to the out word was cut for some moments. The rest sites was working (google and other...)
 
was down for me too
just working again
 
@TimStone: Did you have to erase my more-fun-than-your-version question title?
 
3:47 PM
Yes, but only because I was trying to bump the question because I don't understand why it hasn't been fixed yet.
It's a fairly obnoxious issue.
 
I quite agree; Rebecca put a fat bounty on it too.
 
Indeed
 
@NickCraver, @balpha: Who do we roast at SE to get attention to that one? I get plenty of attention from Careers2.0 but am always having to manually send the PDF just to avoid them discovering the awful print layout.
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Q: Careers CV print view doesn't transform Markdown

Martijn PietersI love the new little printer icons on the Careers 2.0 site, and I had occasion today to point someone to it. Unfortunately, I discovered that the print view uses the raw Markdown text, without processing the formatting. Except that whitespace is being collapsed because it is rendered as HTML te...

 
@MartijnPieters - the careers team is taking a look now
 
Thanks!
 
4:02 PM
\o/ response from Max. Thanks @Nick.
 
@NickCraver so are y'all already implementing the chaos TCP stack?
 
@jcolebrand a fiber line from hurricane electric near denver went down, we're unsure why but have reached out to our contacts
 
Oh, no, I meant the twitter thing I linked
I didn't really mean something about the network this morning ... I'm still focused on waking up and figuring out why my code doesn't seem to work
I can go find it if you'ld like
 
Undercheever...
 
4:19 PM
Undercheevos!
 
CDD.. Cheevo Driven Development.. coming in VS2013
 
I feel that I would be remiss if I didn't tell you all...
...brown!
 
that you were rated a 5.1 on HotOrNot?
 
Nope. Just "brown." Brown is all you need.
 
@jcolebrand - we just have Dalgas go behind the racks and flip breakers really
 
4:26 PM
@NickCraver yeah, I saw those pics too. But this is more at the router or front-end or load-balancer level
 
yeah..we're not there just yet, right now we're bringing the NY datacenter online
I'm restoring SO with data as of 10 minutes ago, about to kick off a full elastic index on the NY side on all new search cluster nodes, and if that's on track we'll do a read-only test of SO in NY later today
 
This is why I merely tweeted you guys about a fun tcp interceptor proxy last night, and didn't realize that today there was an actual SE datacenter "crisis" going on, etc.
 
Good luck with that stuff guys!
 
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go SQL server, gooooooooooooooooooooo
 
LAST_MESSAGE.append('al');
 
5:38 PM
Sure wish they'd implement this, it'd save a lot of clicking:
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Q: Consider add change in status / rep / new notifications to SE favicon

Peter L.This is my first Q to Meta, I reviewed anything similar before posting, but with no success. I'm pretty new user to SE and like it much, so I have it as pinned tab in my Firefox. Among these I have my webmail opened, which has pretty nice feature: except realtime update, which is usual nowadays,...

 
> The most difficult thing in the world is to know how to do a thing and to watch someone else do it wrong without comment. -Theodore H. White.
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I get to practice not commenting a lot here lately..
 
@TimStone I heard the word "bribe". What's up?
 
6:06 PM
@MartijnPieters oy, I'm going to print that and affix it to my laptop
not what you said, what he said
because I need to remember to not comment frequently
 
That's got to be especially tough for you, jayco - you just know how to do everything!
 
@jadarnel27 you're so right you don't even know it. Just last week I rebuilt an old Saturn V out in my back yard. I wish those NASA engineers knew what they were doing.
Next week I'm going to reanimate Julia Childs corpse and teach her how to cook
And I already wrote every book in the LoC
Or I could just be talking about the IE8 form submission in AJAX that does file uploads that stumped my coworker this morning that made that quote stand out to me because I've done that previously and never had any issues, even in IE7, but it was a bit of a hax. But this is his task, not mine, so I should shut up about it and let him hax on it.
I mean, I had issues when I first wrote the uploader, but that was why I wrote and debugged it before.
 
@jadarnel27 I think you've mistaken him for @TimStone
 
You'll have to pick your battles, jayco. You can't fix everyone. Even if you want to.
 
@jadarnel27 hence the reminder to myself to keep my damned mouth shut more
But don't worry @jadarnel27, I'll always have extra snark on tap if you feel left out.
 
6:23 PM
Of that, I have no doubt.
 
@AnnaLear Someone was asking about the proximity of AskUbuntu elections
 
Oh you :P
^ cc @jokerdino
Thanks
 
in The Heap on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 59 mins ago, by jcolebrand
I'm not entirely sure the backstory behind this: http://www.sharpsuits.net/ but ... I like it? (re: Not sure what the backstory is: Ireland's creative community got together to release a lot of pent up anger and sadness through the medium of the A3 poster, all in aid of Temple Street Children's Hospital.)
I would like to know the why behind this, if anyone has insight that I'm missing from the page, or knows the backstory
o_O "Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible printers" http://post.ly/A9UWJ via @skattyadz
This is in no way the fault of Google, but I'm sure it will be viewed as such
github.com/mattdiamond/fuckitjs <-- this may be the best javascript you read today
 
6:45 PM
Hehe... I especially like the .moreConflict(); option.
 
blog.ninlabs.com/2013/01/programmer-interrupted <-- this is what happens when I get interrupted too frequently, I start reading blogs and such.
 
7:01 PM
Yeah, someone broke MarkDown..
hehe, even one-boxing is gone.
 
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Q: Markdown links and images are producing incorrect HTML

VisioNThe problem appeared recently. http://i.stack.imgur.com/oRA0B.png" alt="What happened to me?"> Images and http://stackoverflow.com/a/14528430/1249581">links are not displayed correctly.

You and your live refresh hash marks.
 
7:31 PM
You and your low cheevos.
 
8:14 PM
Unlocking cell phones becomes illegal - That's interesting. Does anyone know if this applies to "rooting" / "jailbreaking"?
 
Lix
Na.. rooting and jailbreaking have nothing to do with the cellular carrier...
 
@jadarnel27: "Unlocking a phone means removing the security feature that prevents the phone from being used on only one carrier’s network and using multiple networks."
 
Lix
thats what unlocking is - allowing you to use a different carrier
rooting is simply giving you administrator access to the system - allowing you to use the "root" user...
 
and uninstall their crappy programs like VZ Navigator
 
@animuson I didn't know if rooting / jailbreaking also caused that removal of the security feature to happen during the process. I read the article =)
@Lix That makes sense, thanks.
I didn't express what I was confused about as clearly as I could have.
 
Lix
8:18 PM
AFAIK unlocking the phone is not dependent on it being rooted/jailbroken... could be wrong though...
 
Jailbreaking just prevents the hardware vendor from having software marketing monopoly. That sounds like it would be against the DMCA, and yet one would think the government would approve of that :P
 
I'm debating whether or not I want to play AC3: Liberation for an hour before I leave for Des Moines...
 
@mootinator I suppose logic and legislation don't typically go hand-in-hand, eh?
 
Rooting my phone just caused a plethora of problems that I don't have the patience to fix or even ask about on Android.SE >_>
 
Ah, that sucks. I've been having some weird instability with the replacement phone I got, and was thinking about rooting it as a solution.
 
8:23 PM
My phone seems to think that the phone's internal storage is actually an SD Card, and comes up with some random number to list as the phone's actual internal storage. When I attempt to plug in an actual SD Card, my phone has a hissy fit because it has no idea what's going on. Like "whoa whoa whoa, I thought I already had an SD Card."
 
Yikes o_0
 
Lix
Since we're on the topic of complaining about Android - I still haven't gotten a 4.1 update :/
 
Ha, my phone never will. It's two and a half years old. -.-
That's why I rooted it. I figured, "eh, why not."
 
I'm on 2.3.5 haha.
 
Lix
Yea - on my galaxy1 I rooted and modded it for a performance boost - and it worked... for my sg3 I'm not really lacking any performance so no need for me to root :P
 
8:27 PM
I upgraded my Windows Phone to its Telestra firware because I was promised a hotspot feature dammit :P
It's my own business if I expose myself to more microwave radiation than the FCC wil approve.
 
8:40 PM
@jcolebrand I'm siding with the person this supposedly bad answer came from. payload102.cargocollective.com/1/0/15801/4358379/…
 
@mootinator in re what?
 
@jcolebrand That's from that page you linked earlier =)
 
@Lix You do realize the carrier's and phone vendor's (aside from Google itself) will never give you an update, right?
 
In respect to the fact that saying "I have a Dell" tells you it's a PC, and some other information :P
 
Lix
@jco - I don't think I follow what you're saying...
 
8:43 PM
@mootinator I would point out that I post too often to keep up with which one you're referring to, but then @jadarnel27 would just snipe in with "exactly" so that would be counterproductive.
 
@jcolebrand Exactly.
 
@Lix The phone vendors are in the business of selling you handsets, and the carriers can't be arsed to come up with firmware updates (or whatever you wanna call Android updates) for every single handset with every single configuration. Apple has four models they actively support on iPhones, so it's fairly easy for them to account for all of those when they release new versions of iOS (and if you count all the iPads and iPod touches you're still at like 9 bits of hardware)
@Lix lemme see if I can find the article that accurately describes what I mean to say
@Lix this only carries through 2011, but the situation is much more dire since then theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/…
 
Lix
@jco - it makes sense.. I guess... But the fact is that many devices have received updates... I can't even get mine to update manually :/
 
@Lix I realize that sometimes they do get updates. Just pointing out that overall the hardware vendors for Android have no actual interest (aside from maybe Samsung) in ensuring that the handsets will take the latest updates.
Microsoft however is being a lot more proactive about things, so those should be more easily updatable for a while.
 
Anonymous
@Lix What phone do you have?
 
Lix
8:50 PM
Perhaps I should contact Samung directly...
@jer - Galaxy 3
 
Anonymous
I have a Galaxy Nexus, and naively assumed that the "Nexus" designation meant I would actually get the updates.
 
Anonymous
I'm similarly frustrated.
 
Lix
I mean - who's servers am I talking to when I do a "Software Update Check"?
 
@Lix that's precisely what I mean ;-)
@JeremyBanks I actually would've made that same naive assumption >.<
 
Lix
oh well... at least I'm not that far behind...
 
Anonymous
8:56 PM
@jcolebrand sigh. At least in the future I know to never buy a phone unless it's unlocked and directly from Google or Apple.
 
@JeremyBanks Still. They shouldn't cross brand shit like that unless they mean it
 
indeed
You know what the problem with cell phones is? Carriers.
Phone companies are the worst sort of companies.
 
Shhh, it ish a sekret.
 
@mootinator pffft, I entirely blame all corporations larger than a city. If you employ more than 50-80k employees, I hold you at blame. I don't care about economies of scale. I think my tipping point comes somewhere around 10k employees, but I haven't decided yet.
 
Anonymous
@jcolebrand Yeah. At least the still exert complete control over the Nexus 4. We'll see if they maintain that hold after supply catches up to demand.
 
Anonymous
9:00 PM
Maybe they'll be willing to be stricter with carriers now that they're in a stronger position.
 
@jcolebrand Yeah, but do they all conspire to come up with total BS like "We won't sell your phone unless it doesn't monitor data usage; we make money from people having no idea."
 
@mootinator my favorite, and I'm pretty sure I was vocal in here about it, was when AT&T told me that Renata used 300MB in 15 minutes over their edge network.
And then 150MB or something similar an hour later.
She spent 90 minutes on the phone in that 2 hour block.
 
Anonymous
@mootinator Do you experience that on an Canadian carrier? Which?
 
@JeremyBanks The phones are all gibbled by the demands of the US carriers. Some of the carriers have pages where you can look those things up, but I'm on a smaller one (Sasktel).
 
Luckily I still have unlimited data usage. :)
 
9:05 PM
@animuson I gave that up for a much lower data rate, since she never used 250MB in a given month
 
I lose mine whenever I renew my contract.
 
Anonymous
@mootinator Ah. I guess "Nexus" at least let me avoid that. (I may not have the latest version of the software, but at least I have Google's old version, unmangled.)
 
after they pulled that shit I put her on a 2GB plan and told 'em to go shove it. Paid the bill, moved on. You can't fight the super-multicontintental-corporations.
 
Hooray.
 
@jcolebrand Counterproductive to whom? =P
 
9:08 PM
I moved outside of the city and Rogers wouldn't let me out of my contract despite the fact that I couldn't get a signal ever at home anymore because they considered themselves to have service in my town.
"Try getting another phone." they suggested.
O_o.
 
@jadarnel27 to me knowing what it was he intended. Hey, at least I give you fair opportunity to snipe me even when you're not here. I'm an equal opportunity snarkist.
 
True. You are an inspiration to us all!
 
> Rogers FAQ: Q: I can't use the service I'm paying for. A: Give us more money and hope that you can then?
 
54 secs ago, by jadarnel27
True. You are an inspiration to us all!
QFT (and to keep you changing it after I pin it in a few minutes
 
Ha, you've got me! Now everyone will think that I admire you.
 
9:12 PM
You do realize that was the intent, right?
 
And I admire Justin Bieber
 
And I admire Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales.
 
I like how you assumed no one would know who that is and thus included a description prior... it was very helpful.
 
Eh, that wasn't actually the point.
 
And I admire Tom Bodett. Because he refuses to give in to those fascist "go green" types.
He'll leave the light on for you.
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9:15 PM
I was mirroring their "An appeal from Wikipedia founder, Jimmy Wales." banner text ;)
The title is a permanent part of his name, as far as I'm concerned.
 
@jcolebrand You could teach a class on being condescending.
And smug.
 
@jadarnel27 I know.
<sub>how was that?</sub>
The secret is to hate everyone. Forever.
Except Kevin.
 
Montrose?
 
Only if my memory is infinitely worse than I recall
 
I should really redirect my domain to my blog or something.
I don't want people confusing me with a politician.
 
9:42 PM
@mootinator do you think it would be dumb for me to write my own blog engine after writing a massive framework too?
I don't think so
It also gives me a great "example" app, right?
Besides StackChat2
 
Sure.
And if it's any good, it'll get some use possibly.
 
haha, if you're thinking I might actually blog if I write a blog engine ... well, that's maybe true.
 
 
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11:41 PM
@mootinator I have discovered the greatest insult that one man can inflict on another. And I have applied it to my arch-nemesis.
 
You called casperOne a ninny?
 
Even worse!
And I know. It's hard to imagine something worse than "ninny". Or "casperOne" for that matter.
 

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