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9:00 PM
@lImbus Welcome!
 
I was not able to let SO show me all questions tagged with AIX
 
@RebeccaChernoff And the Oys have it!
 
altough there seem to be 159 questions tagged with that
 
@RebeccaChernoff grrrr, that's not an Oy worthy response is it? Is it just my partial (self-diagnosed) Aspergers kicking in making me wonder about my weird social interactions?
 
@balpha? @MarcGravell? I have bad news...I just noticed that I've just been logged out of chat.SE...sitting on the room listing page...
 
status-bydesign
 
@TimStone huh?
 
status-confirmed
 
We are nothing if we can't keep the conspiracies going.
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@lImbus go here stackoverflow.com/tags and put in the AIX and then see the paged resultset
 
9:02 PM
That being said, it didn't log me out...so good job chat team!
 
@drachenstern: this is exactly where it shows me there is 159 questions tagged with that
 
Did you then click the tag?
 
clicking on it gives me the empty tag wikip age
 
@lImbus say what?
 
@RebeccaChernoff They are aware of the issue. At least, Marc is.
 
9:04 PM
I say not on my machine :(
 
@lImbus and I'm trying to figure out why not
 
let me try a bit around
 
Do you have the same URL as I have?
 
OK. Thanks for the consolation guys :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException cheers
 
@GeorgeMarian As in right this moment they know? It's been an ongoing issue that is still broken despite fixes over the past several weeks.
 
I have to return to stuff... I'll probably be back complaining about something else before too long ;-)
 
@RebeccaChernoff Oh, I'm sorry. This is a serious issue. I just didn't get redirected to the main page, but I am logged out. :(
 
@lImbus press <ctrl><f5> and hope for the best. I showed you what I get, and I get that clicking your link
 
@lImbus welcome to meta, don't let this bunch of jokers harass you too much ;-)
 
9:05 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Yah, I reported it a day or nearly 2 days ago now.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I have heard @MarcGravell say something like that I do believe
 
@drachenstern perhaps it collides with my ignored tags, gonna try that
 
@TimStone The only time I've ever seen it is when I do get logged out...
 
@lImbus only you would know for sure ;)
 
altough I doubt there is much c# on aix...
 
9:06 PM
@GeorgeMarian Right but I mean this instance. They've thought they've had it fixed for a couple days. Obviously it isn't.
 
@RebeccaChernoff It's even worse when you don't get redirected.
 
nope, still the same
arg !
 
Because you type messages and then once they try to post it tells you that you need to log in to post, heh.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yes, that's precisely what I'm talking about. Being the person that originally reported the issue, I've been trying to keep track of it. :)
 
@GeorgeMarian Couldn't you have kept it to yourself? ;) I had no problems until a day or so ago! :P
 
9:07 PM
@GeorgeMarian, it's been ongoing for weeks. Not just a couple days. q:
 
@RebeccaChernoff nods
Your point? :P
It's been driving me nuts for weeks now.
 
okay guys, don't want to bother you anymore, I thought I'd be dumb anyhow, but you showed me I am generally doing the right things, it's nothing I can ask of any of you. many thanks to @drachenstern
 
@TimStone lol
 
Yeah! I've been keeping tabs on both the issue and @GeorgeMarian, keep up! ;)
 
sigh never mind. Clearly I'm not explaining this right but I don't know how else to explain.
 
9:09 PM
@RebeccaChernoff I reported the issue to Marc a while ago. He looked into it then, but wasn't convinced. I sent over my chat.se cookies for him to look at.
 
15 hours ago, by Marc Gravell
@GeorgeMarian troublemaker
 
I also reported that it hadn't been fixed after their recent efforts when I got booted the other day, after they thought they had it fixed.
 
Rebecca, just post on meta: The site is broken and we're all gonna DIE!!!
 
(Marc was aware there was still an issue when George mentioned it at that time)
 
@TimStone stalker
 
9:12 PM
@drachenstern: fixed! works after having paged once through the newest/featured/hot/votes/active tab
 
All this time in chat, you tend to see a thing or two. ;)
 
the link stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/aix always sent me to "featured" before
and still does
so, there is just nothing "featured" in there
and: I WAS beeing dumb:
"There are no questions with an active bounty in the aix tag at the moment.
Perhaps you'd like to select a different tab?"
 
heh
I take it you didn't select a different tab?
 
right
for whatever reason I am beeing sent there instead of any other page, who knows.
drachenstern did not tell me to do so either, so I suppose, either he is beeing sent to another page, or his "featured" has features
whatever
problem solved, thank guys again :D
 
@lImbus That is odd. I am not. I end up on the 'active' tab.
@lImbus Nevermind. It seems to remember the last tab.
 
9:16 PM
@lImbus oh, lol
@lImbus I just figured you would see it on your own ... sorry
@GeorgeMarian it does indeed
 
Maybe a touch too feature rich? ;)
 
Are there any users doing studies/papers on topics pertaining to SE?
I would be interested to get involved in that type of project
 
hmm ... ooo i smell government grant ... who want to split a couple hundred thou "writing" a paper on the Dynamics of a meta community
 
@Zypher I like it!
 
oh great, now you're all going to steal my idea, lol
jk
 
9:21 PM
@user152426, just tell @Zypher to go ahead and "play" with @TimStone's ip. It'll keep him occupied.
 
@user152426 whistles quietly
 
Wait, how did I get dragged into this? :P
 
i /blame @RebeccaChernoff
 
I was just curious; I have no specific plans for a project, but would be interested in helping with someone
 
@Zypher you wise person.
 
9:23 PM
I think it would be great to get my name on some some SE research
 
I'd like to thank ADP for writing a bulletproof security system for my timesheet account:
 
@MichaelMrozek sigh
 
@MichaelMrozek The Daily FTW is full of stuff like that :)
 
Regarding research, is that an inquiry that would be appropriate to post on the meta SE? or would it be closed?
 
When my former employer switched to paperless payroll, a few wise ones among us opted out. Surprisingly few.
 
9:26 PM
Quickly, to the password retrieval form of all of @MichaelMrozek's other accounts!
 
HA Now i know @MichaelMrozek 's first pet name, and town his closest sibling lives in MWAHAHAHA
 
@TimStone lol
 
yay for silver bullets and/or law compliance!
"Let's no security because we must, let's do security because we have to."
 
@radp Heh. That sounds like a question for english.se. Must vs have to. :)
 
@Zypher make peace ! war (:
 
9:30 PM
@radp The fact that you called it "The Daily FTW" reveals a lot about your level of programming skill. (I keed, I keed)
 
Anyone have experience with a UPS for home use? I'd like to purchase one for a home server, but I'm on a tight budget.
 
@GeorgeMarian They make ones that are essentially power strips that are fairly cheap I think
 
@GeorgeMarian How tight?
 
@Shog9 I guess under $100.
@MichaelMrozek Yah, i just discovered that on Newegg.
 
ok, I posted a thread
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Q: Is there any academic research going on regarding Stack Exchange?

user152426Is there any academic research going on regarding Stack Exchange? I would be interested to help if someone is writing a paper?

 
9:34 PM
@GeorgeMarian We use these at work:
There's a cheaper 6 outlet version too
 
I was leaning towards APC, myself. I guess I need to figure out the wattage necessary.
My "server" has a big beast of a PSU. Not as big as my current desktop, but it used to be my desktop. (i.e. video card sucking down the juice at a healthy pace)
 
I did 1300VA at home and at work. AFAIK, those were in the $100-$160 range
depends on whether you want to keep running through the outage, or just shutdown cleanly if it lasts more than a few minutes
 
Was I wrong to do this?
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Q: Array elements assignment

nozimHow can I set one value to several elements of the array in C#. Example: int[] array=new int[]{2,3,5,3,7,2,9}, and I want to set the values between 2-nd and 5-th to 8. How it could be done?

 
I'm shooting for a clean shutdown. Working through the outage would be quite nice. But, the rare outage is either for maintenance or due to high winds, so they're not necessarily short.
 
@GeorgeMarian I thought the kernel had a way to talk to the UPS, figure out remaining time and shutdown when appropriate?
 
9:45 PM
Can it be time to leave work now? |: No motivation to do anything. sigh
 
@drachenstern shrug This would be for a Linux server, but that should be also be available.
 
@RebeccaChernoff is today the last one?
@GeorgeMarian er, that's what I said, no?
 
Last one?
 
@drachenstern Hm, I feel like that may be the case too. I know that my CyberPower UPS came with software for that purpose regardless, but it's a bit above what George's price range was unfortunately.
 
@RebeccaChernoff at the current employer?
 
9:45 PM
@RebeccaChernoff we've already cracked the beers at SOHQ so ... i'd go with yes
 
@drachenstern lol
 
@drachenstern Oh, no. I'm here til the 21st.
 
@Zypher And you didn't offer to share...for shame
 
@Zypher I'm sorry, I don't think I've been handed a beer yet. ):
 
@TimStone I thought that was implied
...
 
9:46 PM
Oh, very good then :D
 
But yah, that's basically what I'm looking to do. Have the server shutdown cleanly if there is a power outage. No sense trust my files to it, if a power outage hoses something.
 
How do you link tags in chat?
 
@RebeccaChernoff ah .. well that could pose a problem erm scotch?
 
@GeorgeMarian obviously what is needed is to run a windows env in a VM that talks to the UPS, and a linked set of commands over a virtual network pipe from the VM Windows to the Linux host that sends a heartbeat and a command to initiate shutdown on loss of power detected on the Windows machine. That's not too goldbergian
status-not-implemented
 
@drachenstern heh
 
9:48 PM
@drachenstern Not that helpful :P
 
@NickT I do what I can when I can
 
The matter of me not actually being at SOHQ to be handed a beer is a minor challenge I feel the team should be able to overcome. (;
 
@RebeccaChernoff well then just meet me at @TimStone's and I'll bring the brew .. just as soon as he tells us where he lays his head ;)
 
@drachenstern Is it markdown? What's the syntax?
 
@Zypher One thing I do seriously miss about living in NYC is being able to drink after work and hop on mass transit.
 
9:49 PM
@RebeccaChernoff they do have Rovio after all
 
I'm only two hours away from SOHQ ;)
 
@NickT what for what I just did? [status-not-implemented]
 
@Tim north/south/east/west
?
 
South
 
@TimStone I'm...farther. Though my parents are in NYC right now. But that doesn't help me get a beer, dammit.
 
9:50 PM
ah hmm ... well in about an hour i'm going to be traveling ... 2 hours south
 
@RebeccaChernoff :(
@Zypher Back to Philly?
 
Ja i'm still commuting every day
 
Oh, seriously? Ouch.
That must be rough :/
 
yep, it's worth it ... and actually not that bad since i take the train
 
I'm at a party right now, and still I"m checking the chat rooms. Kinda sad, isn't it.
 
9:52 PM
@balpha WTF
 
Jumping on Amtrak?
 
@Zypher Yah, driving it would suck. At least on train you can sit and get something done.
 
@balpha We're just that awesome. :)
 
Ok... @balpha needs a beer more than I do.
 
@balpha Must be a great party. ;)
 
9:53 PM
nah take NJTransit to hamilton then drive the rest of the way (i actually live in the near suburbs so it's quicker to drive to hamilton then ... trust ... septa)
err
 
Hahah, yeah, SEPTA can be...problematic sometimes.
 
i Drive TO/FROM Hamilton NJ and take the train
from and to there
sometimes?
 
Right, heheh.
@Zypher Regional rail isn't terrible one like...one of the lines.
Also, I guess the subway isn't too bad.
Trolleys, busses, and every other regional rail besides the one I'm talking about..forget about it, heh.
 
@drachenstern No nice tag linking on other beta sites? :(
 
2 hour commute would drive me nuts. I used to take the metro which was 45m to an hour each direction. Then I realized it was so much easier just to spend the money and drive...which takes 15-20m each direction. Heh.
 
9:55 PM
If I ever go to Philly now I just drive. 95 can get bad, but at least I'm in control there. :P
 
haha .. yea ... my gripes w/ regional rail is 1) Hub and spoke so you basically have to go into then out of the city unless you are going somewhere on the line you are near 2) Crappy crappy hours 3) never, ever, onetime
 
@rebecca oh, there's enough beer. Just not enough smokers ;)
 
oh and the fact they got rid of the "R" numbers
REALLY messes me up
 
I know! What the hell man!
 
@balpha Hehe.
 
9:56 PM
shakes head
 
funny story i was on KYW3 the night they changed it
cus i happened to be @Suburban station waiting (1 *%#$ hour) for my train .. hung over and sleep deprived ... asian reporter trisha tacanowa thought it would be good to interview me ... i thought it would be a nice time killer
ended up being put on air as the "man on the street" interview
i was so outta it i have no idea what i said
 
Hahahah, are you serious? I missed out on that, damn.
Also funny that that Family Guy reference just blew past my head.
 
@Zypher Where you identified as "A drunk man on a train?"
 
The fact that Family Guy has been ingrained into my brain to the point where I don't differentiate it from real life scares me. :P
 
honestly i have no idea i assumed it would be cutting room floor stuff so didn't watch the new per usual
found out I was on the next day at work
@TimStone HAHA
 
10:00 PM
@drachenstern wrong? Depends... If he was working at a lower-level, he could be guided in the direction of repz stos or the like, which effectively collapse the loop into a single instruction. At a higher-level, there could be a library routine that would do the same. Then again, he's only setting four values - there might not be any value in optimizing it...
 
@TimStone just don't do that with NFS.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, I better be careful on that one, heheh.
Though my Civic gets a bit wobbly around 80 mph anyway, so there's probably not a lot of concern there.
 
I once walked down the street in Oakland, seriously lacking sleep, when I saw a nice teal 50's era truck. I thought, "Ooh, that must be fun to drive around..." Then quickly realized I was not playing GTFA.
 
Thankfully that was before you took out the window.
 
10:03 PM
@TimStone Precisely.
 
I was with someone who tried to do that once..
Not that they were stealing the car, they were just apparently an unnecessarily angry drunk and felt like punching car windows.
 
@TimStone Fun times, I'm sure.
 
@GeorgeMarian Yeah...
 
@TimStone Heh. A friend of mine nearly broke his wrist punching my windshield once. I think he learned his lesson.
 
the lesson being, "don't punch with your wrist"?
 
10:05 PM
Hahah
 
yay for walking away from your desk to go answer questions, and I'm /afk again
 
@drachenstern What's this guy have against loops?
 
Anyone want a .NET job in the middle of nowhere?
 
@GeorgeMarian hell if I know
@mootinator how did you know we were hiring?
 
10:10 PM
I feel like I'm in the middle of nowhere, so I'm not sure I'd be making any progress with that switch ;)
 
@drachenstern No, we're hiring.
I'm the "working in tandem with coworker" that post refers to :/
 
@mootinator No, but I'm looking for PHP work around Seattle. :)
 
@mootinator I figured as much, heh. Will getting someone new take some weight off of your shoulders, or are they trying to supplement you for no reason?
 
@TimStone They're trying to supplement me so they can bill the client twice as much.
 
...Ah, hrm. That seems a bit uncool.
 
10:13 PM
Because they have more work for us to do though, not for no reason :)
 
Oh, that's more reasonable then :P
 
I assumed that was implied ;)
 
You never know. ;)
 
There's a spot open here... (:
 
Heheh, with a complete binder's worth of notes on how to fill the former developer's place? ;)
 
10:18 PM
No. But there may or may not be a OneNote document...
 
/\:
\o/
I feel like I should still be working.
Stupid globe.
 
and you know where you could go to ask questions of the person who may or may not have written the onenote doc
 
ExpertSexChange?
 
sure lets go with that
 
yawns Damn, I shouldn't be this tired at 5:30.
 
10:26 PM
+1
 
It's after 5 cracks open a Highland Gaelic
 
I haven't had a beer since November. This makes me very sad..
 
@tim errr what?
 
Hi, my name is Tim, and I've been sober for ten days.
 
we must take up a collection to send Tim a good beer
 
10:36 PM
@Zypher I'm not in the habit of drinking alone, and I don't get out much around here because all of my friends who live close by are busy with school. I could drag myself up to Philly, but normally there's nothing concrete going on with people up there and I don't have the energy to drive up and find out there was no reason to, hahah.
@Shog9 I have no objections to this idea. ;)
 
@Tim ahh
well that sucks
I'd offer to deliver it .. but well i doubt it would make it :)
 
Speaking of a collection to send Tim a good beer.
 
@Zypher Points for honesty...
 
Hahah, I appreciate the thought :P
 
When I was packing the other day, I came across a stuffed unicorn.
And I thought. Hey, chat.meta.so should do a secret santa ;P
 
10:39 PM
@mootinator Bonus points for just having that laying around....I think.
 
Right then. Time to skedaddle and hurry home...so I can babysit for a kid who will likely be asleep by 7. Joy.
 
@TimStone Yeah, it was kind of a funny story.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Ouch, you might need more than just one beer. Uhm...enjoy?
 
@RebeccaChernoff take your laptop, you can chat while he sleeps
 
I somehow injured my knee when going to look at them.
So I ended up lying in the middle of a department store floor holding a stuffed unicorn.
Naturally, my wife bought it for me.
So we could cherish the moment forever.
 
10:43 PM
I feel like there should have been YouTube footage of this memorable moment.
Oh, what the hell....I was down to 47 errors, how did it climb to 59?
Ah...OK, not as bad as I thought, just changed a constructor.
 
@TimStone 'Cause you're just that good.
 
Pro skill, surely.
But yeah, that constructor is used in a few different places, so not as alarming as I thought. :P
 
One of my favorite computer related sayings: "To error is human, but to really foul things up, you need a computer." :)
 
Heheh
 
damn it took me a whole half hour to show my coworker my new place and check for places the carpet cleaners didn't clean and give my computer time to reboot? Living this close to work is going to be nice for the first month ;)
Now to put that benefit to use by getting work done :p
Ah /. how I love thee...
> Does taking a fire-axe to the SAN count as "using a computer"?
 
10:54 PM
Hah, WTF?
 
I see more often "To err is human, to blame someone else shows good management skills"
 
I once had a printer at work which I dearly wanted to give the "Office Space" treatment.
@DanGrossman lol
 
> present yourself to me; admit what you've done, then i will bring upon you the ultimately punishment for your transgressions.
> > An event is starting in 6 minutes in The Tavern (General) - "Happy Hour"
ponders ... I should be working ...
 
@drachenstern Especially given that I am. :P
 
11:11 PM
Did the chat servers just take a big dump or something on my network?
I'm going to assume it was just on my end then ...
 
Hmm?
 
@CRoss Turning in my work laptop may be the hardest part of leaving my job. Heh.
 
@RebeccaChernoff you don't have a laptop of your own?
 
That's....tragic. :( lends @RebeccaChernoff one of his
 
11:24 PM
Well, an old one. Like, 7 years old. It is in a closet somewhere.
 
@RebeccaChernoff that's more tragic
may that cheer you up
 
(:
Maybe I'll get to be part of the Chrome Netbook pilot program. q:
 
hehehe, perhaps so
 
No one should be without (a) laptop(s). :(
 
@TimStone agreed, with the corrolary that it should be less than 4 years old :|
 
11:30 PM
Hello
 
wb Tyler
 
'Ello
 
No one should be without (a) matrix screensaver(s). :(
 
Heh ;)
 
hehe
 
11:35 PM
Y'all have cool desks.
 
But so...much....smearing.... rips out hair
 
Not mine. Plain Jane boring wood
 
I believe I also got mine at Staples.
 
I throw it out and buy another of the same desk each time I move
 
11:37 PM
@DanGrossman Can you switch them around so the 2nd one is on the right?
 
I've seen it done but you have to drill some holes of your own to do so
 
@DanGrossman Darn. If you could those are essentially the exact dimensions I have.
 
hmm, tis cheap.
 
11:49 PM
Hm, I should really get on that whole getting new furniture thing.
 
me too (:
 
I wish it were easier. :(
 
....
 
Contrast to the DrexelAlert text message I got about an hour ago -- robbery at gunpoint on the street, fleeing westbound through campus.
 
11:53 PM
Yeah, I was going to say, hahah.
 
@DanGrossman I'm sorry but she sounds like a dumbass for throwing her wallet at him and screaming
I hope there were extenuating circumstances not listed on the blotter
 
:agree: That's why it's funny
 
well I just hate to make light of other's situations
 
even better
 
@DanGrossman wtf?
 

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