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12:00 AM
@DanGrossman this is why guys don't try anymore in this country :p
 
that's what we tell ourselves... :}
 
holy fuck I hate extended families
 
12:11 AM
Hahahah, that was unexpected. Why is that?
 
cos for some reason everyone is coming into town and so it's now my job to make sure they have lots of sugary beverages that will only get half-drank, and they are highly obnoxious but think I'm the one with a problem if only because I ask them to, ya know, use English and speak clearly when they talk to me, instead of half-sentences and imaginary conversations
2
I realize I'm rude and all for asking those things ...
 
Yeah, how dare you demand comprehensible conversation!
 
You laugh, they argue
And I'm not sure how it was decided that everyone was coming in for this weekend, as I'm sure they'll be back for XMas
 
Hello
 
@drachenstern Double the fun?
 
12:16 AM
of course
here's a link watch that not work
House A is my current domicile, House B is the other family domicile. They will be in those two houses for the weekend
 
Is that a pool back there?
 
yeah, somebody more intelligent than I decided to place it under a tree with nut-seeds like 8 years ago
I'm not sure if it's an oak or what
 
Sweet.
 
I really could care less
so maintaining it is a pain in the arse
 
Yeah, I can imagine. Cleaning pools is enough of an issue without..you know, something to drop shit directly into the water.
But that aside...How many people?
 
12:19 AM
5 + 4 + 4 + 2 + 3?
I'm not entirely sure
may just be 15
Depends on who all "came along"
 
Ah wow, quite a few then. :/
 
and they don't have any compunction about walking in
There's a reason I'm moving to the city
and just slightly to the northwest is a building with two towers and a parking deck on the southside, that's the office
I'm a block from the office :D ... could be a mistake
ok, I'm on my phone, ttyl
 
@drachenstern Ah, very nice. :D
 
Yay iphone
Im just glad my fridge is mostly empty
 
Quorum? New badge?
 
12:30 AM
Wha?
 
Link?
@TimStone ask me bout the apt pool later ;)
 
makes a mental note
I was wondering why it wasn't on Meta...hahah.
 
Quorum, Convention, and... looks for gold version
no gold version
 
@Rebecca: unfortunately no gold
 
12:33 AM
I wonder if you can actually get them on SO..
 
@DanGrossman Starred for truth. See also: Reasons I'm chatting here at 7:30 on a Friday night
 
I'm thinking probably not, as they've already been awarded on the other sites.
 
Sign of things to come?
 
But SO is a big'un, so maybe it'll be a bit. :P
waits and sees
 
12:35 AM
> "DrexelAlert - Police cleared scene - area secure - Investigation is ongoing"
 
I've seen those badges on TeX.SE
 
anyone doing anything intersting?
 
ordered dinner since a female friend is coming over
 
12:39 AM
Watching a kid watching tv.
@TimStone Amazing what happens when Jeff tweets a post, eh?
 
got pizza :-)
 
Yep. ;)
You should totally take credit for the popularity though :P
@StefanKottwitz Yeah, it's listed on SO, but it hasn't been awarded, so it's unclear whether or not it will be (people definitely qualify, but MSO is a special case meta, so it's possible the badge is meant to foster community-making decisions on new sites)
 
@TimStone Popular Question badge. q:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Heheh, nice :P
Teach me not to post questions, right? ;)
 
Hahaha.
 
12:52 AM
Ha!
 
That's OK, Jeff said nice things about that formatting issue answer, so I get to feel special too. :p
 
I love when I learn interesting methods of doing things while trying to fix problems with Triton or another app
Like one of my testers complained that the posts section of Triton overlapped with the menu on small screens
I generally just have a width: 75% on the posts
However, because the menu is a fixed width, I figured out I could get rid of the width property, and simply make sure that there is a margin-right: 200px, and suddenly, even on really small windows it doesn't overlap anymore
 
@TimStone well-deserved (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Thanks, but to be fair it wasn't too hard to follow the code once I saw what was happening in the DOM, so. :) Plus, kudos to the OP for posting the question at all, I had something similar happen when I posted the sidebar issue earlier that morning and forgot that it happened, heheh. ;)
@TylerChacha Good stuff
 
1:38 AM
Oh, guess they are being awarded on SO :P
> You've earned the "Convention" badge. See your profile.
 
Nifty :)
From my university, since I still have mail there: "Back by popular demand (Popular Demand?)!! We didn't count on such a huge turnout last week (58 students tested) so we're hosting more free STD and HIV testing at SHAC (Student Health and Counseling) this week!!" ...Heh.
Rail gun FTW
 
2:42 AM
@YiJiang, regarding the script you posted.
8 hours ago, by Michael Mrozek
in The SE Tavern on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 hours ago, by Michael Mrozek
$('title').text($('#question-header > h1 > a:first').text() + " - " + $('a[href=/]').text());
 
@RebeccaChernoff Heheh, that's what I was just looking for.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Abuse of jQuery be damned! You don't need jQuery for this
 
regardless, point's the same.
 
Also, I've posted this on the Tavern about 10 hours before. Hang on while I find it
 
2:44 AM
18 hours ago, by Yi Jiang
document.title = document.title.substring(document.title.indexOf('-') + 2);
Ah ha! 18 hours! First!!!1!
 
The logic difference is what is important.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Mine's superior, obviously
 
Are you being serious or sarcastic? |:
(Have you seen the comment on your post?)
 
@RebeccaChernoff No hyphens - they've been replaced - look at that very question you commented on - feature-request -> feature request
 
The question title itself could have hyphens.
 
2:48 AM
Don't you think I'd have not noticed that? (slightly irritated)
 
And include the tag already.
 
@YiJiang, the tag isn't included on all questions.
If the question title itself already contains the tag, then it won't be prepended.
 
@TimStone But only the part before the first tag is removed
@RebeccaChernoff Not noticed that, point?
 
If that happens and the question title itself contains a hyphen...
 
The tag isn't always added..
 
2:50 AM
So the title could be "Why doesn't my asp.net code work - help me!"
 
"This is my title - lolz Java" will not have "java -" added to the front, and will fail with your code.
 
@TimStone Right, I see. Hmmm...
 
So now if you notice the code I quoted from Michael, look at the logic difference.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yes, but you didn't explain why previously
 
Jin
TGIF!
 
2:51 AM
I feel like I've done nothing more than repeat my comment on your post.
 
I'll rewrite it using that logic without jQuery, hang on
 
> You can't do it like this though - tag isn't always included and if the title when it isn't has a hyphen...oops.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, but I didn't see that comment until you told me
 
>_> <_<
Ah..
 
Also, chat is lagging a lot because I'm connecting over a slow VPN
 
2:52 AM
@YiJiang Yeah, that's why I asked. It belatedly dawned on me that perhaps you hadn't. q:
@Jin \o/
 
@Jin Hooray!
 
Though my Friday night is pretty boring.
 
I'm just watching The Matrix.
On TNT, which is full of fail.
I have this movie on DVD, suppose I could...just find that.
 
Jin
i'm redesigning the redesign of Programmers.se
 
:D
Sorry, new designs excite me. :P
I have no stake in Programmers, but I like shiny things.
 
Jin
2:55 AM
i have some exciting designs lined up for future SE sites.
not done by me, but by my designer friends.
 
Nifty
 
Jin
this way i can speed things up too.
 
God this VPN is slow
But it's worth it because it's free
Okay, got it. Damn that was slow
var title = document.getElementsByTagName('h1')[0];
title = title.innerText || title.textContent;
document.title = title + document.title.substring(document.title.lastIndexOf('-') - 1);
Oh, and by the way @TimStone, what do you think of kittenBot now?
 
I'm not sure, I haven't paid much attention to that room today.
 
Anyway, through the VPN I found out why the BBC is been blocked
The second story on the BBC news homepage, go check it out
Go go human rights activists!
 
3:08 AM
Hmm. I should give the javascript room another chance I suppose.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Oh, I didn't realize that you actually weren't in there anymore.
That room gets....a lot of traffic.
 
It wasn't the traffic. It was the absurd noise. q:
And yes, I'm saying absurd noise implying here is normal.
 
I was trying to classify the conversation more "nicely" ;)
 
@RebeccaChernoff What, that's totally unlike the Tavern man...
Like say...

Space?WhatSpace?

Nov 21 at 17:14, 41 minutes total – 100 messages, 5 users, 3 stars

Bookmarked Nov 21 at 18:20 by Yi Jiang

 
Yeah, that didn't bother me. And yet I got annoyed at the JavaScript room. Oof. (;
 
3:17 AM
Heh
 
The noise will die down after a while when everybody's satisfied playing with the Kitten, and when nobody has anything to say, we can always get the Kitten to squeeze out some pseudo-wisdom to entertain us
 
Oh wow, I never ate dinner...whoops.
 
4:03 AM
Bingbot found one of my domains which has never been linked to, then Googlebot found it on Bing somehow, now Google's indexed the domain and people are showing up at a half built app
probably shoulda written a robots.txt
 
@TimStone (frowns) What's this dinner thing you speak of?
 
@YiJiang I'm not sure, all I know is I didn't have it.
 
Jin
survey time, which one is more readable. code.google.com/webfonts/… OR code.google.com/webfonts/…
 
@Jin Neither, if you want readability :P
 
Jin
@yi not for body text obviously. if it were used as big header text.
 
4:12 AM
Reenie, if only because it is wider...but yeah...seems pretty hard to glance at and see.
 
@Jin I'll go with Just Me, because there's less slanting and differences in position
 
I'm going to second Reenie Beanie, because some of the letters in the other one are a bit more distorted.
 
I like just me over beanie
Dammit 2 & 2
 
But seriously, is there no good F/OSS handwriting font? Because even Segoe Handwriting is better than either of those
 
Hahah
 
Jin
4:13 AM
2 vs 2. you guys are no help
 
@Jin You can always flip a coin :P
 
We'll have to settle this Battle Royale style.
 
Dammit
 
Jin
@YiJiang i'm exploring a bunch. but, there's none to choose from the websafe fonts, will have to be font-faced regardless.
 
THE TIE BREAKER HAS ARRIVED.
 
4:14 AM
What's up moot?
 
My BB is saying "Insert SIM Card"
 
:/
 
@mootinator bzzt... wrong answer. Try again.
 
My iPhone stopped working?
 
I think he's being silly re: up
 
4:16 AM
@mootinator No! Help @Jin choose a font and break the tie we have here :P
 
Oh ok
Yes please do ;)
 
I...I can't decide!
They're both horrible.
 
"Just Me" is easier to read, but neither looks good for headlines
 
@Jin, is the offline page for graduated sites supposed to use the sketchy theme?
 
Lol
@Rebecca are you still on that? ;)
 
4:18 AM
Oh shush. >_<
 
I actually like beanie a bit better, but the left slant is off-putting.
 
Quorum? Another new badge?
 
I noticed my accept rate wasn't 100% and looked to see why. q:
 
Jin
@RebeccaChernoff hmm i honestly don't know. we should a standard page for all of them. but i can see why the graduated sites probably should use their own stylized offline page
 
Or did I just do something?
 
4:18 AM
:p
 
:always confused:
 
@DanGrossman Yup. I've also got the silver version (wheeeee....!)
 
@DanGrossman Dammit, what'd you break?
There's [quorum] and [convention]
 
@RebeccaChernoff (adds @DanGrossman to the WOB)
 
4:19 AM
:393803 Erm... it's not here
 
Please. I beg of you. No kitten bot here. |:
 
Darn, my phone is working again.
 
:spreads catnip:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Oy, @Ivo get your fat ass and the Kitten here in the Tavern so we can tickle it's tummy
 
I'm curious if I should be happy or upset I'm not on the wob ;)
I hear the last ofthe extended family next door. Aka the ones probably sleeping here
Pray for one of us, not sure tho if you should pray for me or them
 
4:25 AM
I don't know them, so you get first dibs ;)
 
Wonderful, the Navy has ginormous railguns. foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/10/…
 
Thanks @Tim
 
That's so however many minutes ago I posted the YouTube video!
 
Scary.
 
Expected
 
4:27 AM
Awesome.
 
@YiJiang ...
 
They've been doing that R&D for like 30 years
 
4:43 AM
<3 Bernie Sanders
 
awesome
 
And with that I'm off to bed. Cya
 
G'night
 
5:29 AM
@TimStone, you want me to do the pull request or did you want to try your shiny new access? (;
 
@RebeccaChernoff If you wouldn't mind. :) I realized that I need to setup two different local copies I think, for this purpose. My dev one that I use for my repository, and then the stable one that links to yours...I haven't gotten around to that yet, but I have gotten around to making food, heheh. ;)
Wanted to make sure I didn't break anything and such. :p
 
I just pushed a commit for the keyboard script. Padding and timeout.
 
Nice
 
wonders how much she can get done while still babysitting.
 
Heheh, did the kid call it a night?
 
5:44 AM
Yeah. Hours ago. But I've been putzing around.
 
Heh, I was surprised to see it was somehow already past midnight. I've made a little progress, but not three hours worth since the last time I checked the clock.
 
But you ate dinner! Heh.
 
In the process of eating, at least. ;)
Well, and if you even want to call this dinner anyway. Popcorn shrimp, lot of effort on my part. :P
 
6:07 AM
@TimStone Popcorn... shrimp?
 
> Popcorn shrimp also refers to bite-sized pieces of fried shrimp which may be eaten in a manner similar to popcorn. They were originally made by Red Lobster.
 
^ that
 
This quote is from the "short film stubs" category on Wikipedia. Marked: "This article may require cleanup"... :o
 
Sigh... the BBC's still been blocked. Go go human rights activists!
 
<~ still watching a rerun of Bernie Sanders' 8.5 hour speech today
Hooray for C-SPAN
 
Jin
6:34 AM
9
Q: How can a new programmer impress the software engineer (boss)?

PabloHi, I'm working at my first programming job. My boss is a very smart software engineer, and I feel like I have very little to offer compared to him. Problem is, he is always busy, and needs someone to help him out. I feel like I'm not good enough, but I still want to succeed. I want to be a gre...

 
@Jin reads Joel's novel
 
Jin
i think he misses blogging :)
 
Heheh
 
7:08 AM
'Ello @MichaelPetrotta
 
7:51 AM
@Jin definitely...
 
Jin
lol @HN comments..
"Spock has a starship; I think that counts as more gear."
Joel has started a Spock vs. Batman debate...
 
 
2 hours later…
10:04 AM
beep
 
10:25 AM
boopity
Another one for the "We should be able to move from anyplace to anyplace else" series:
0
Q: What to use to identify keys without looking?

Brian OjedaAll to often I hit one of the hot keys that surounds the moment keys. This a big problem in World of Warcraft when flying high on mount and hitting any action key that causes the toon to unmount. So, what is a good things to use to help identify keys with out looking down at the keys? I want to...

Gaming → Programmers
True story. :P
 
moment->movement, someone edit his post :(
If I could log in I'd tell him that his keyboard already has something to help him find the keys without looking... the raised bumps on f and j on EVERY KEYBOARD :x
 
@DanGrossman As you wish.
 
10:40 AM
Thanks :)
 
@DanGrossman Grats for your first answer on Gaming! :P
 
"You know the biggest lesson I learned from what you did? We are a lot alike, you and I. You tested me, I tested you. You killed me, I... oh no, wait, I guess I haven't killed you yet. Well, food for thought." -- Portal 2, 2011.
2
Portal 2. Need.
@radp :lol:
 
Holy shit
Not even the numbers were spared
Now that's rad.
so this is pretty, um, weird
 
10:59 AM
I shouldn't even be awake, and I'm watching every Portal 2 trailer on YouTube
 
the m and the a were spared however
that's unacceptable.
wow, that was pretty close, editing time wise
I'm so going to break my Backspace button today
 
11:18 AM
I feel like I should should should should should should should (← MAN WHAT A PAIN!) repeat each word as many times as needed to write it "fluently"
(as if)
← screwed
 
12:15 PM
@radp I don't think that revision you made was correct - the /q links redirect to the full /questions link, so there's no reason to use the /q version really
 
@YiJiang I mainly added sites
 
@radp Yeah, but some of the exclusion rules are unnecessary
 
/q* was mainly to save time :P
the exclusion rules come from:
 
@radp Yeah I know where they came from
 
5
Q: What's the correct way to @include all SE sites?

radpWhat's the @include sequence that most accurately lists all the SE sites for greasemonkey/userscript hacking purposes?

well then :P
 
12:21 PM
But since none of the excluded sites actually have a /questions/ route, there really isn't a need to exclude them
 
...meh; the point also wasn't to add exclusions :)
 
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 46 mins ago, by Coding Kitten
@DanGrossman Everytime you say Java, I kill a user like that, I have a problem
Who said my script was producing noise?
 
oh right; I loaded Google Scribe to make my life a little less miserable, but Programmer DVORAK rearranges numbers too :(
7531902468
wtf?
 
12:51 PM
argh; putting w and v close together was a bad idea.
Now pasting text is a dangerous proposition.
 
1:33 PM
anyone who can explain 'quorum badge' to me?
I suddenly got that badge, indicating 'because of "One post with score of 2 on meta."; I tried finding that post, but no success.
 
@JeroenPluimers You get it when any one of your posts on Meta receives 2 upvotes
Or rather, reaches a score of two, which is the upvotes minus downvotes
 
so I get the badge on stackoverflow because of my activity on meta.stackoverflow?
 
@JeroenPluimers Yup
 
Hey there @YiJiang. How goes?
 
then I should have had plenty more Quorum badges:
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/users/137204/jeroen-pluimers
 
1:37 PM
@TheUnhandledException Fine :P I've given the kittenBot a voice
 
@JeroenPluimers I think you only get one per site
 
@JeroenPluimers One time only badge, duh
 
@YiJiang Oh no. :-p
 
Unless it explicitly says that you can get it more than once, you assume it's a one time only thing
 
But what I don't get is the meaning of Quorum (when I look at wikipedia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorum - it does not make sense to me in the context of SO)
 
1:38 PM
@TheUnhandledException It's not all bad, so far he's gone out and threatened to kill all users mentioning Java
 
LOL
> A quorum is the minimum number of members of a deliberative assembly (a body that uses parliamentary procedure, such as a legislature) necessary to conduct the business of that group.
 
@JeroenPluimers Given that the rules for how SO operates is decided on meta.SO, it's not entirely unrelated
 
@JeroenPluimers That's what meta is :-)
Meta is the deliberative assembly of each site
 
And erm... "First time Meta user" is kind of uninteresting as a name for a badge
 
Oh, VMWare Server, why are you being such a bitch to me? Why?
 
1:45 PM
@TUE: ah, I didn't see it that way; meta is the assembly, a minimum number there likes one or more of my posts, so I got the badge.
Thanks for clearing that up.
@TUE: ESX(i), or regular VMware server that runs on a Linux or Windows host?
 
@JeroenPluimers VMWare Server 2.0
Not booting the Ubuntu Server installer for a new VM
 
@TUE: What is your issue with it?
Ubuntu as an ISO?
Did you enable booting in the VM BIOS?
 
@JeroenPluimers Can't use abbreviated usernames, both here and in the comment system - it's not a convention - the user actually get's notified when you mention his/her name with a @ in front of it
 
I get the GRUB "select a version to install" screen but when I continue, I get a black screen. I am afraid the ISO may be corrupt because Ubuntu 9.04 works
 
@Yi Jiang: thanks for making that clear.
Can you choose a 'chat' nick?
 
1:47 PM
@JeroenPluimers yeah, Ubuntu 10.04 server as an ISO. I'm downloading 10.10 to see if that works.
 
@JeroenPluimers Oh, and no spaces too. Use tab for autocompletion
 
(I know many people have problems spelling both my first and last name, as the combination of vowels is quite unique to the Dutch language)
 
@JeroenPluimers No, but you can have a different name on Meta than on the other sites... :-)
 
@YiJiang: cool, it works!
 
oh noes; activity.
 
1:48 PM
@JeroenPluimers In chat, names autocomplete! yey!
 
@TheUnhandledException: sorry for abbreviating your name.
 
@JeroenPluimers No problem. Sorry for choosing such an unusual name ;-) (I'm "Josh" everywhere else)
 
@radp cowers in fear Oh wait, I'm the one talking
 
I now will never catch up with you all :(
 
@radp Ha! Erm...
 
1:50 PM
@radp LOL
I'm going to grab some breakfast. Back in a bit
 
Shouldn't the number of posts you have in chat correlate to how little life you have?
 
not unless I aborted "give DVORAK a try day"...
I'm even cheating by using Google Scribe
I killed the discussion... :(
okay, I officially declare the failure of my "give DVORAK a try" day
I lasted a couple hours though and didn't resort to textspeak to help myself.
 
2:48 PM
OK so I think the issue was my ISO has become corrupt. Eeek
Means my file server may be kicking the bucket :-(
Anyway, I have to do chores now, lame. Catch you guys later!
 
\o/ Dvorak.
 
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