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8:00 PM
In the grand scheme of things, this really has no value but I took the time to do it, rofl.
 
@RebeccaChernoff ... I thought that was a requirement for participating in these sites
like ... i should be doing dishes and vacuuming right now ...
 
@RebeccaChernoff For that one particular procrastination form, you can use your gender as an excuse and no one would blame you!
 
@RebeccaChernoff I drew a map of the SO offices only using rovio.
 
@Zypher I'd trade for that.
@balpha That's made of win.
 
and then he beat our maze in like ... 5 mins
it was sad
 
8:03 PM
Haha
 
of course the fact that we built a maze for rovio in the office ...
 
@Zypher ...is obligatory
 
@Zypher Rovio must be evaluated and tested! +1.
 
Stack Overflow: Procrastinators Can Get Stuff Done Too!
 
it served a good purpose -- I knew my way around when I actually came to the office in person
 
8:04 PM
Nice. (:
 
of course, the construction workers had taken down a couple of walls by then...
 
speaking of rovio ... for all those wanting to try ... the ip is ... 127.0.0.1 !
 
@balpha So you were just taking the scenic routes?
 
@Zypher Don't rovio as root, man.
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@RebeccaChernoff no, I spend most of the NY week looking for the non-existant-anymore kitchen
 
8:06 PM
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oh @balpha the kitchen is almost done
 
@balpha ha.
 
@Zypher firing up rovio now...
you really need to fix the wheels
 
you can't fix bad engineering
 
@Zypher Sure you can. You probably just don't have enough duct tape.
 
8:09 PM
yes we do ... it's just holding the servers in the racks presently :-D
 
Ah, naturally.
 
@balpha no we just need to convince michael and joel that wee need this: robodynamics.com/products
 
And remember: Meta Stack Overflow Premium gives you access to a read-only Rovio feed!
(*Select areas of US and Germany only. You know you're eligible if you have a connection quality of 5 diamonds.)
 
@radp where do I sign up?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Contact Pekka for further details.
 
8:11 PM
hrmph I can't check out the new kitchen. All passages to the construction zone are blocked
too many cables lying aroung
 
hahaha
if only rovio had an arm and an access badge you could go through the hallway
 
56 mins ago, by Popular Demand
How long usually it takes to receive MSO rep cash?
 
btw the stackoverflow sign is still proudly hanging there htey havn't made us take it down yet
 
@Zypher Shelbot!
 
yes ... but less ... sheldon
 
8:13 PM
haha
balphbot?
 
although we could stream big bang theory episodes
 
I suggested getting a rovio for each remote worker, with something like that sheldon thing on top (just the correct face). The idea wasn't well-received.
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@balpha You don't say?
 
@balpha But... you control chat. With leverage like that, you can surely get whatever you want.
 
yeah, but there's no "write paycheck" onebox yet
 
8:16 PM
hah; it turns out I don't need stackoverflow for that...
 
@balpha Rather unfortunate.
 
hey! wrong tweat!
onebox #fail
sorry, chromed bird #fail
It seems my umbrella company have accidentally paid me someone else's invoice. So tempting to spend it...
 
and by chromed bird, do you mean PEBKAC? (:
 
no, chromed bird; want pics?
I've seen it before - the link that should take you there (the when link) gets the wrong id
 
Not if it is going to ruin the fun. q:
 
8:19 PM
user image
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It is actually off-by-one; my tweet is ....81; chromed bird linked to ...80
 
@Zypher I have this to say:
 
8:22 PM
@balpha Wow. Now those are some guys with problems.
What episode is that from, anyways?
 
We hope you enjoyed your chat sample of Meta Stack Overflow Premium, now with more image only chatrooms!
 
It's REX MANNING DAY ...
oh wait
 
8:36 PM
Hehe.
 
@Marc you have a company that makes Umbrellas?
 
think "Zeitarbeitsfirma", the British way
 
yes; it is a lucrative sideline
 
Given umbrella's average life...
 
that and advanced military and biological tech
 
8:45 PM
@balpha Oh right, Zeitarbeitsfirma. Of course!
 
Ah. So you make those small cocktail umbrellas, yes?
Actually rule the world market?
 
@balpha wait - I'm not sure I like the google translation of that - sounds a bit too... transient
 
8:46 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Unlike you, @Rejoicerejoicekbdisback understands the beauty that is the German language :)
 
@MarcGravell yeah, it's not precisely the same
 
Maybe it's more like "Personalmanagement"
(read in german, not english)
 
@balpha hrmph.
 
Shell company?
Straw firm?
Harhar
 
8:48 PM
 
@Marc, why is there a room whose title consists of an unspecified action directed on you?
 
@radp I would. If my printer supported printing it out.
 
@Rejoicerejoicekbdisback I think we have a case of Erklärungsversuchübervereinfachungsscheitern.
 
@Rejoicerejoicekbdisback huh now?
 
@balpha yeah!
@Marc hang on
 
8:48 PM
@MarcGravell I just deleted it
 
they created a new room for @-ing you
until they understood it won't work until you have been in there at least once
 
indeed ;p
 
Ahhh, it was literally @-ing
that explains a lot
But at the same time, also makes it much less exciting
 
Yes, people were being silly.
As usual.
 
8:50 PM
@Rejoicerejoicekbdisback what did you think? oh, wait, don't answer that
 
@balpha unspecified action. I did not think any further than that.
 
suuuure
 
I love it when someone unspecifies me
 
@balpha
 
unspecifying is illegal in 49 of the 50 US states
 
8:51 PM
But surely that would depend by whom, wouldn't it?
 
not as good as a decent vagueing, though
 
Yeah, everyone needs that from time to time
 
@Rejoicerejoicekbdisback well presumably they wouldn't be specified either
 
hmmm unspecifying is illegal ... crap
good thing the NSA isn't already watching me
 
@balpha let's hope NY is the other one; IIRC I'm subject to the laws of NY state while working... I'd hate not to be able to do that on company time
 
8:52 PM
@Zypher That's what you think.
 
@MarcGravell SO is a Delaware company
 
@marc ... that .. sucks
 
that makes it even odder. I must re-read my contract
 
Why, does it rain much in Delaware?
I think I'll open a room for nebulousing one of these days
Or a proper unfathomabling
 
If you haven't listened to this yet, you should. (via jwz.org.)
 
8:55 PM
@radp Ahahahahahaha!
 
So, if I get a message about an "Unspecified Error", that's just the NetNanny kicking in preventing me from seeing the real thing?
 
@balpha exactly!
 
Ah; any contract disputes are subject to NY law - but yes, SO is Delaware.
 
NetNanny also has a thesaurus, which is why you'll read "nebulous" or "hazy" while I write the same thing
@Marc that clause is so that Joel can call in some thugs from some really bad N.Y. neighbourhood if you do something wrong.
 
where "negotiation" is... brief
or lllooonnnggg depending on how much you've annoyed them
 
8:58 PM
Just tell those thugs to unspecify themselves
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@Marc yeah. And "letting you go" is dropping you in the river with your feet sticking in cement
You don't want to know what "downsizing" looks like.
 
machete?
 
No, something better. (Opening dictionary to look up "Häcksler")
Of course. The mincer!
I think I once read in a Grisham novel that Delaware corporations have some special status, but I forgot what it was
 
Delaware has no tax
 
of course that only helps the corporation ... not employees of the corporation ... grumbles about US taxes
 
You mean you don't like watching your paycheck float away?
 
I'm still hoping (perhaps beyond hope) that the UK govt do something decent about "IR35", which is the tax law meaning that they can decide randomly to treat contractor employees under employee tax-codes. The problem being that you pay the tax of an employee, but get none of the legal status/rights of an employee
(it is up for review)
Damned IR35 is why I go via the umbrella-manufacturing-company, rather than direct to SO.
 
@RebeccaChernoff why i don't even get to watch ... i just get to cry when i add up all the tax they took out before it even getting to me
 
@Zypher Fair point.
 
9:05 PM
oh and the fact that they take more tax than what i made in a year at my first job ... hmm actually that's a happy thing it means i've moved up in life
 
@RebeccaChernoff You wanna plan my room too? I've been hesitant to get new furniture because my room is poorly design, heh..so placement is an issue. :P
@balpha We'll add support for that to the userscript ;)
Woah, it's already 4:13? Damn you Need for Speed.
 
@TimStone I can't even do my own! q:
 
I saw that time-consuming, well-coloured floorplan!
 
That's the current layout.
 
9:15 PM
Oh.
Well then...uh.
 
Gah ... who makes the salutation a required field
grr
 
I could use about double the desk space or more honestly.
@Zypher The people who made the form you're filling out. Obviously.
 
stupid apple
That'll teach me to buy music
 
@MarcGravell ah, now I understand. That's lamentable.
@Zypher same here. "You need to activate your computer to download purchased music from your iPod." - "Your computer is already activated."
That'll teach me to buy DRM protected music
 
9:19 PM
at least they let you reset your activations once a year
although i kinda remember they switched from pure DRM to unencrypted + UID info embedded in the track
 
They did? Nice.
Won't help me though - the tunes I have the problem with are too old
Still, good to know
 
haha yea i know i feel like i need to support the artists every now and agian
 
@Rejoicerejoicekbdisback Nothing that a rerecord of all of your iTunes tracks can't fix. ;)
 
oh yep just checked m4a
 
@Tim yeah, I need to do that someday soon!
 
9:21 PM
I spend a lot of money on my music, I'll be damned if I can't use it conveniently for my personal use, heh.
 
yea, 90% of the time i'm listening to music on my ipod while traveling
speaking of which ... ohh saaaannnttaaaaa i need me a new one!
 
@Zypher is your Santa listening in on chat.SO?
 
he better damn well be
 
Or will you discreetly point relatives to the transcript? :)
 
santa is omniprecent
that's why he knows i've been a reaaallly good boy
 
9:24 PM
 
i go more overt email baby email "this is what I want"
the response ... wasn't plesent but ended in "You get a 50$ gift card"
 
@Zypher well, better than nothing! :)
 
haha true true
 
Although $50 won't take you far where Steve Jobs is involved
 
of course my sister went the "Just give me cash" route
so i was shielded a bit
 
9:27 PM
I'm asking myself whether there are any decent alternatives to the iPod. I mean ones that look as slick
 
yea ... i wonder if i can fanagle the apple store discount link from my friends at my last job ...
and don't use WMP?
 
@Zypher yup, just plain old MP3 would be brilliant
 
shrugs don't know of any
 
@Zypher yeah - somehow they manage to build products that are extremely hard to copy well, although I don't really understand why. I mean, with the obscene amounts of money to be made in those fields...
 
US Patent System
 
9:30 PM
Mmmm maybe, but that can't be everything. I mean, there have to be good product designers out there that don't work for Apple.
 
true ... no idea, my guess is they put more emphasis on the technology than the design
unrelated i'm tempted to watch this just for the title
 
They do both things incredibly well.
I don't have a Netflix account, what is the title?
 
ha ... taintlight (making fun of the twilight movies)
i do agree ... just wish they where a bi tless expensive
 
Heh!
Yeah. They are such a money machine. They take a third off every dollar the mobile providers make with their premium iPhone plans. On top of what people pay for the device itself. A third.
 
Hello
 
9:34 PM
Why, hello there!
 
... hmm ok back to looking for decent vampire movies i havn't seen yet
 
@Zypher mmmm there is that one nice indie-y swedish one, I forgot the title....
Very.... different. Definitely nice. Although I must admit I haven't watched it to the end yet.
 
ooo ... and that's sitting in my netflix insta queue already :) sweet
 
I think unicorns will be the one thing that unites the world. The top two sites that use Unicornify are vanillatf2.org and dolldiaries.com. Go figure...
 
I don't see any unicorns. ):
 
9:46 PM
You need Meta Stack Overflow Premium.
 
Ah, right.
I totally went past the home page...
@radp I sent in the payment, I swear!
 
@RebeccaChernoff So did I!
But if I refer just 20 more people I get free Meta Stack Overflow Premium!
or so Pekka told me.
hm.
 
There's probably fine print: Users referred must keep their subscription open for 6 months.
 
9 months actually. How else would the business model work? I'm not the welfare office.
 
9:54 PM
@RebeccaChernoff we sent you teh codez 6 months ago
@radp it's 30 more people now
we've updated the ToS
 
@Marc is this a sock puppet of yours? :)
http://stackoverflow.com/users/252330/umbrellacorp
He just asked a question
 
Whew, I think that's enough gaming..for the moment...
 
@TimStone I don't believe you. (;
 
I turned off the Xbox, heheh.
 
9:57 PM
@TimStone Time for Minecraft... :)
 
@TimStone it can always be turned back on ;)
 
Hahah, no, no...
@Zypher Yeah, but I had to move my chair back to my desk, and that's kind of annoying because I have to lift it over stuff...so.
 
Aren't we just great influences?
 
I was just about to mention how happy I was to have your positive influence. :P
 
but ... but ... the xbox has a wireless controller, you can even turn it on with the controller
 
10:00 PM
@RebeccaChernoff It's the first time I'd like to :| together with you in a long time
 
Yeah, the TV is unfortunately not angled in such a way that playing from my desk is convenient, though. ;)
 
There aren't any VM solutions which pass through the vide card, right? That would be all sorts of complicated to do right, if it's possible.
 
ahh well that just needs to be fixed
IIRC vSphere 4 can pass through PCI
but ... why?
 
A project for another day, perhaps. Although I am contemplating turning the Xbox back on for Netflix...but I'll try music first, heh.
 
and damn you for ruining this chat with a technical question
 
10:02 PM
@Zypher Cause I was hoping to have XP in a VM and be able to game on it.
 
@radp Heh.
 
haha ... yes i think i've got my instant queue filled far enough for now about to head that way
@GeorgeMarian uhg ... video would be the least of our worries
 
Why's that?
Mind you, I'm on a 4-core, 8 GB RAM system.
 
ehh, since everything needs to be emulated it would be sluggish
and if you give it multi core .. you've got cpu contention up the wazzoooo
 
Well, yah. The more it could pass through, the better. :)
 
10:05 PM
are you on a *nix system?
 
you could try xen if there is an xp version out there optimized for it
 
Hm, does anyone have admin powah on Webmasters?
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Q: What is the typical example of old school website design ?

Pierre 303I want to build a website for a retro thing that was popular in the mid 90s (beginning of the commercial internet). So I want use old designs that was very popular at that time. The first thing that comes to my mind was those "under construction" animated gifs. People often put animated gifs ev...

 
@Rejoicerejoicekbdisback no, nothing to do with me. I do have a low-rep test account, but it is very clearly marked as such.
 
ESET says that the site linked to by "backgrounds" has malware.
 
10:09 PM
@GeorgeMarian try this first playonlinux.com/en
 
@Zypher game-rec? CLOSE!
 
@Zypher Ooh, interesting. Thanks.
 
just try and close ... i dare you
:-D
 
is 37 movies in my instant queue to many?
 
10:13 PM
No.
 
phew
 
@Zypher Better than my empty queue which I've been paying $9 to have sit around for the last few months :P
 
@TimStone yes ... very true ... it keep suggesting Zardoz to me for some reason though ...
 
Ha. My gf still hasn't returned the 1 DVD she's rented from Netflix...
 
in Chat feedback, 3 mins ago, by radp
I closed but I haven't been yet disintegrated in a tiny trillion subatomic pieces...
:(
 
10:16 PM
@radp 6-8 weeks
 
@Zypher fair enough
 
Man, did I really kill chat w/ a technical question? Sheesh, people.... ;)
 
That must be tough - not knowing when you're going to disintegrate into a tiny trillion subatomic pieces.
 
@Marc yeah, I thought so :) I just thought it a weird coincidence for that user to ask a question right at the moment when we spoke about umbrella corporations. But weird coincidences happen on SO (including two different users asking the selfsame complex and rare question within five minutes from each other)
 
The Activity sort order is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
 
10:25 PM
Does it taste as good?
 
Embarrassingly enough, I've not yet figured out how to eat a sort order.
 
Ah, I hear they're delicious when prepared correctly. However, I think I heard that from @radp...so it might just be crazy talk.
 
@TimStone They work the best with sandwiches.
See if you mess the sort order there you get... suboptimal results
 
I could see how that would be the case. I've also just realized that I haven't eaten today, and I'm a bit confused how that happened..
 
OK: bread, origano, oil, mozzarella, tomato, bread
NOT SO OK: mozzarella, tomato, bread, bread, origano
 
10:32 PM
shakes head at America
 
@TimStone that's no sorting error, that's just memory corruption
the mayonnaise overflowed, changing the item id for the bread.
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Ah, of course!
 
@TimStone Yeah, that's just bad...
 
@GeorgeMarian I'm hungry enough right now that I'd try it, even though it has something close to your DRV of sodium..
Plus everything else that's clearly wrong there, heh.
 
Maybe it's just the fact that I come from a culture which likes it's breads, but I can't fathom the idea of eating a sandwich with no bread.
Though, yes, I were hungry enough I'd chow down on that.
 
10:39 PM
I'm a big bread fan myself. Pasta, not so much.
 
LOL Same here.
I love a good lasagna, spaghetti not so much.
 
@TimStone Needs more poutine.
 
@mootinator It does, because poutine is amazing.
 
thumbs up at Canada.
 
As was Canadian Burger King's spicy gravy, heh.
 
10:43 PM
When I went in to KFC to get a double down, I joked about getting poutine with it. The staff, of course, simply asked whether I wanted one with a straight face. Disturbing.
 
"We can clog another artery for just 99 cents more"
 
@TimStone How would you feel about a double down if I gave you two slices of bread to put around it?
 
@PopularDemand I think I'd need a couple slices on the side as well and I'd be done with eating for a day.
 
@PopularDemand Full.
 
10:47 PM
More awesome via jwz.org
 
@TimStone That is the correct answer.
 
Oh, my goodness. That is fantastic!
 
@radp lmao
> It is not only disrespectful but also utterly moronic to request that he host your birthday party at McDonalds.
 
That whole thing is just pure...um...gold.
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10:54 PM
What is the context of that letter?
 
@Moshe Someone trying to get cash4gold-painted-rocks, It would seem.
 
got it now.
Hey, anyone know where I can order a splitter for a phone/fax jack online?
 
@Moshe Amazon should have some.
 
Good point. I looked at Radioshack, out of stock.
I set up a printer at a clients' and the printer was also a fax machine.
The fax machine is near an occupied jack, hence the need for me to find a splitter.
Google Shopping got a facelift.
Just to confirm, phone and fax are the same size jack, right?
 
RJ-11
 
11:04 PM
@mootinator - Thanks.
Would a filter interfere with the signal?
 
@Moshe No.
 
Oh wow, when did SO Chat start formatting Amazon links?
 
Day 1? Ok, maybe Day 4.
 
@RebeccaChernoff - sheesh. I thought it was just internal (SE) links.
Can we get Mosheberman.com links formatted?
(removed)
 
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A: What links and sites are handled specially in chat?

Juha SyrjäläThe current list of integrated (we call this onebox, or oneboxing, ala search engines) sites is: Stack Exchange Questions Stack Exchange Answers Stack Exchange Users Stack Exchange Chat Messages Stack Exchange Chat Rooms (though not really pretty yet) Amazon Twitter Wikipedia XKCD YouTube Githu...

 
11:12 PM
How do I get my site to OneBox? Is that a Google thing?
 
@Moshe It's a SE chat thing.
 
@GeorgeMarian - But the thread that @REb mentioned says it's done "ala Google".
Now I'm confused.
 
@Moshe As in "like" Google.
 
Oh, makes sense.
 
The "onebox" term "came" from Google. Or something like that at least.
 
11:17 PM
Oh cool.
Okay, glad I took care of that phone jack.
One less nagging client.
You know, I like the new iPod nano for some reason.
 
@Moshe It's pretty cool, though the screen is tiny.
 
feature-request: onebox support for wikileaks cables :)
 
11:50 PM
@Geo - That's why I like it.
It's like a nano-sized iPod touch.
(pun intended, of course.)
 
Don't you love breaking something when you think you're fixing it?
I removed what i thought was an extraneous startup check in my app, and then the graphics disappeared, leaving only text.
 
@Moshe That's why I try to leave well enough alone, though it isn't easy. :)
 
Good Evening
 

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