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12:01 AM
@TylerChacha Evenin'
 
12:15 AM
@GeorgeMarian- It actually was broken, but I forgot to replace that check with a different one.
It checked that the theme setting was set to one of two values, but then I added more themes so it would revert to the original one if it was not one of the original two.
if(theme != blue && theme != red){ theme = blue; }
but then I added green etc.
so saving the theme value to green or orange would reset the theme to blue.
I changed it to just set to blue on first run and rely on the UI after that.
It's an iPad app, it should be fine as is.
@TylerChacha - sup?
 
That's the beauty of switch statements with a default case. (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff - How do you specify (this || that) or (this && that) in a switch statement?
That's why I avoid switch statements, not all languages support them and I never figured that question out.
 
Well it wouldn't apply to that specific line but perhaps surrounding logic.
Obviously I haven't seen your code so it may not even apply.
 
It's a startup check in applicationDidLaunch in my delegate.
I think it was this:
	if(![[kTheme isEqualToString:@"metal"] && ![[kTheme isEqualToString:@"walnut"]) {
		[kSettings setValue:@"metal" forKey:@"theme"];
	}
'kTheme` is a constant for NSUserDefaults.
So I deleted that, but then the first run didn't apply a theme and the theme images didn't load.
@RebeccaChernoff - how would you switchify that if statement?
 
my mouse is cursed by dog hair..
because it is a laser, it gets dog hair in it, and it messes up the tracking
 
12:26 AM
Get a "real" laser from thinkGeek and keep the dog away from the computer. ;-)
@TylerChacha - what's your personal website's URL? I wan to see it again, please.
 
1 message moved to Bad Joke Room
@Moshe You've warranted your own room
 
Oh, well, I'm ... honored?
:-)
I'm really excited, I've just implemented the first part of something I've been procrastinating.
I've defined a serialization format for slides in my iPad app.
and loaded out some default slides based off of that format.
 
Finally, I found a mouse w/ the problem
 
?
Oh, did you ask on SU?
Anyone wanna join me in the Bad Joke Room?
Why does my WP blog show "briefly unavailable for scheduled maintanence, check back in a minute"?
 
because it is briefly unavailable for schedule maintanence, and you should check back in a minute..
delete maintenance.something..
it is a file in the root dir of your Wordpress install
I need to really upgrade the menu of Triton..
icons and such
 
12:35 AM
@TylerChacha - Thanks, just found that advice on Google.
Triton is nice as is, add a ruler to the logo and you'll look like Xcode.
@Tyl it's actually called .maintanence
 
@Moshe That line, I wouldn't.
I guess meant that perhaps the logic could be reworked a bit so that you didn't have to list everything out in an if statement like that.
 
1:02 AM
Working on a whole new sidebar.. gonna look awesome
 
@TylerChacha - Can't wait.
@RebeccaChernoff You ever got up to GameKit on iOS?
I'm wondering if Android can capture bluetooth output and then somehow decode it...
 
 
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2:15 AM
come here my little debuggers!
Come and see what I have created!
 
Late to the party but LMAO at that cash4gold thing.
+10
 
use 102content.com/triton/nocache.php to see the newest version instantly
it bypasses the cache
 
@TylerChacha - Nice, I think the Triton logo blue box needs a bit more padding at the top and at the bottom, between it and the version number.
 
@Moshe GameKit?
 
2:32 AM
@Moshe Try that
obviously the summary isn't done..
it is really cool what Lucas Jones (github.com/lucjon/Triton) has added to Triton. Import/Export for instance
 
3:28 AM
The Google.cn music database have a few erm... interesting inclusions, and quite a lot of notable omissions
Why are these even available? And who the hell wants to listen to Adolf Hitler speak?
(Actually, now seeing that they are available, somehow perversely I do, but I can't speak German, so...)
 
3:45 AM
Evening
 
@TylerChacha Morning
Would you like to hear A. Hitler speak?
 
not at the moment
 
4:09 AM
@YiJiang, actually, I am curious to hear authentic German being spoken, but not by that guy.
@Reb game kit allows apps to access global leader boards, game center and Bluetooth.
It's an iOS development framework.
@Tyl works decently on my iPad, looks great.
 
Thanks
The import/export stuff needs to be prettified
 
@Moshe I understand...but why would I use it?
 
@Moshe As far as my history class goes, he was a pretty good speaker
 
@Reb to send information over Bluetooth between devices.
 
In terms of political speeches, that is
The content might... be a little weird though
 
4:12 AM
@Moshe and I would want to do this why?
 
@YiJiang so is president Obama :-) he's a great speaker, I haven't see his campaign promises fulfilled yet.
@Reb a game? Handshake app? Trading contacts, pokemon or something or another, dunno.
I'M using it for my app for synagogues.
@YiJiang - u in china, Europe or the us?
 
@Moshe China at the moment
 
@Tyl yup, it does, I have more input, but I cant type it all on iPad
@YiJiang are there any synagogues in china? I'm not aware of any large Jewish population, but I'm working on this app geared towards synagogues, so imm curious.
 
@Moshe I'm not sure. I haven't seen one, that's for sure.
 
@Reb I want to send the "slides" from the iPad, in kiosk mode, to the iPhones of congregants.
@YiJiang thanks
 
4:17 AM
@Moshe I mean, there certainly are, but they are not that common
Urg, I searched for "Entertainment" in Nanjing on Google Maps, and the first thing that came out is the Nanjing Massacre Memorial Hall
 
@Moshe, I get what it is for. I'm not sure why you think it has value to me.
 
5:02 AM
Hmm..
 
5:13 AM
Oh hi @TimStone. Minecraft server go down? XBox die?
q:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Hah! I wish I had a witty comeback, but...I was playing NFS. :(
 
@GeorgeMarian So...I may have another go at that whole code change thing, heh.
Ah, indecisiveness.
 
@TimStone Well, as long as you try to keep the changes atomic and aren't wasting time you could be doing something else, it shouldn't hurt.
Even if you don't keep the changes, you get more familiar with the issues for v2.0. :)
 
5:28 AM
Gnah... my hands are freezing
Nanjing goes officially into winter today; sub-zero temperatures tomorrow
 
@GeorgeMarian Yeah..I thought about it, and since we don't really have a criteria for going to 2.0 anyway, I figure what the hell, heh.
Cold = awesome.
 
I'm not a big fan of cold.
 
@TimStone @YiJiang wonders if there's an anti-star button somewhere he could reach for here
/blame Siberia
 
BTW, speaking of going in circles. the aquarium is clouding up again. It hasn't gotten as bad as it was, but it keeps cycling between a greenish and whitish haze. lol
 
@YiJiang It's much easier to get warm if need be than it is to get cool, so.
Clearly the fish need better house keeping skills.
 
5:33 AM
hehe
 
@TimStone I've always thought the opposite was true
Taking off cloths is pretty simple, eh?
 
@YiJiang You can throw more clothes on, but you're limited in what you can remove.
 
There's only so much you can take off before it becomes inappropriate for chat. :P
 
The humid heat Tim experiences does indeed suck.
 
@TimStone What do you mean? I chat in my underwear all the time in Singapore
 
5:35 AM
TMI
I'm glad you don't post pics.
 
@GeorgeMarian This isn't chatroulette :P
 
Evening
 
'Ello
 
3 hours ago, by Tyler Chacha
http://102content.com/triton/nocache.php
 
5:41 AM
Nice
 
@TylerChacha Ooh, shiny.
 
Finally you can view the documents without pressing the logo
BTW, that is the nocache.php version
if you go to it regularly, you'll need to update
 
I suggest you make the side bar the same width as the logo. Also, "Delete document" breaks onto two lines.
 
BTW, you may already know of this, but it seems that Flash needs to be involved to do a cleaner export: github.com/dcneiner/Downloadify
 
5:46 AM
@TylerChacha A release note of some sort would be nice. I'm not sure how many of the features you mentioned were going to be implemented are implemented now
 
ah
Yes ... some sort of development blog would be good
(Note though, StackOverflow doesn't really have one...)
 
@TylerChacha It does have a community maintained list of changes
 
Heh. Jeff just says "Make it awesome." lol
 
From the commit log I can see that we now have export/import
 
And the blog does list major changes
 
5:48 AM
Keyboard navigation
You can press up and down arrows to select posts and press enter to edit or delete to remove
(delete needs to get a confirm box...)
I'll get one going on 102content.com
Some sort of change list that weeds out the more technical commits on github.com/chacha/Triton, but still provides useful info on new features and such
 
@TylerChacha it doesn't have to be hugely complicated, something like MetroTwit's would be nice: metrotwit.com/blog
 
yeah. I'll get something going. Especially since we just hit version 0.6
 
6:27 AM
There you go
A dev blog with the first entry. I'm going to start a post of all the changes in 0.6.
 
@TylerChacha "Kommentar"? :P
 
hmm?
bah
stupid semi-german theme..
 
Wrong language? :P
 
there
 
6:43 AM
There you go, 0.5 release notes
 
7:14 AM
You know it's cold season, or you have allergies, when you look at the box of tissues and wonder how you've gone through 1/2 a box so quickly.
 
That sucks, heh. I hate being congested.
 
@GeorgeMarian Like me right now... sniff I've already used up the tissues in two hotel rooms
 
Ugh, my back hurts like a mofo...might need to invest in a better chair. Well, that, and better posture...
 
Every time I catch a cold I wonder how many trees have to fall for my nose
 
@YiJiang heh Yah, that's exactly what i'm talking about.
@TimStone I'm glad I sprung for a good chair, even if it's used and cost more than the typical chairs you find at retail stores.
 
7:17 AM
yeah my nose is jammed too
 
I think mine was something like $99 at Walmart. My lower back believes I could have sprung for something better, it seems.
 
I paid $225 for used one of these: ergogenesis.com/757.php
While it hasn't fixed all my back pains, it has a very long way to improving things.
@Reno It is that time of year, but for me it's mostly allergies. Moving to WA with mold allergies may not have been the brightest thing I've done recently. :)
 
Hm...I should definitely go chair shopping then. ;)
 
I personally think my nose has a grudge against me
 
Hello
 
7:27 AM
Hola
 
g'night
 
I'm too young for this back pain nonsense, I'm going to go lay down a bit and shake it off. Then either come back and continue working or fall prey to NFS, it's pretty much a toss up.
 
7:45 AM
 
I just need to make one for myself and hang it outside the door
 
8:05 AM
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@TimStone Oh, man. I just sneezed so unexpectedly that it felt I was on the verge of pulling a muscle in the back of my neck. Talk about feeling old. ;)
 
Cool, I can use imgurl to mirror blocked images
Well, you can now expect random pictures to appear in the Tavern now
 
 
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1:12 PM
@YiJiang ...
 
@Reb, I didn't say game kit had a use for you, I wanted to know if you knew hoe to use it, because I had a question for you.
 
1:30 PM
Lately I've only had time to do iOS programming on days with 25 hours in them, so...
 
So on November 7th, right?
 
go go njtransit! I might have to stop procrastinating on the train soon if this train keeps sitting here
 
that doesn't sound as fun as go go inspector gadget
 
1:46 PM
no ... it most definatly is not ... although i did get a good chunk of a backup script writting so ... that's a plus
 
mwuahahaha, got destination shortcuts for the header work...post navigation works...and i just got vote up working via keyboard shortcut
easy peasy from here!
 
hrm ... mouse less navigation ... i'm intreagued
 
Guess what I found on the airplane magazine - Rovio!
For the low low price of 7999 RMB!
 
ooo looks expensive ... must be good
 
@Zypher I originally said 6-8 weeks, but really it is turning out to be a lot simpler to write than I thought it might. So let's go with 6-8 days. And it's already day 3 I think.
 
1:50 PM
@RebeccaChernoff The other 5-7 weeks are for procrastinating!
Or reticulation of splines!
 
Yeah, but I really hate using the mouse. q:
Right then, I should go to work. Must teach people to be me!
 
@RebeccaChernoff You can always erm... reticulate splines with the keyboard!
@RebeccaChernoff Oy! :( \o/ There, done now
 
@RebeccaChernoff just point them at the documentation and run away :)
 
2:31 PM
Yeah...
My code is documented, but the things that aren't directly code...improving the documentation for that has been on my list for about a year, ha.
 
2:52 PM
@YiJiang :(? Seriously?
 
@radp Well, there's the double oy! , but that's rarer
 
@YiJiang How can people possibly be rchern if they smile the right way?
 
@radp Funny, Chrome isn't listed. I've got something similar with Yahoo with Firefox 3.6
@radp Sorry, my rchern function's malfunctioning slightly
 
@drachenstern Wow, they straight refuse to load if you aren't using a blessed browser?
 
3:01 PM
@radp no, I navigated to that page from a link on /. ... apparently it's hardcoded?
 
Does that mean I now have blessing to do the same, minus IE?
 
in other news I have the new messages center on my FB
 
oh wow
← totally utterly impressed by how cool that is
 
You'll notice the lack of excess smileys or exclamation points on my post ;)
It's not really that cool
I still can't find the EFFING SETTINGS FOR IT
They showed when I first setup my new messages center, and now they're gone again
 
@drachenstern why, did I use them?
 
3:05 PM
@radp :p
 
@drachenstern Settings? What settings? Didn't you sign off all your settings along with your soul when you signed up?
 
@radp lmao, perhaps so ... my fb is actually pretty well locked down according to what tools they provide
 
3:18 PM
so I was gone all weekend but I managed to keep my consecutive visits so I'm at 43 ... I have hope for a gold badge yet! ;) off to work ya'll, ttyl
 
> @Lord Torgamus I am not your opinion. see updated question of details. – MRalwasser 7 hours ago
...what?
 
"I don't agree" maybe?
 
-1
Q: Wicket 1.5 compared to 1.4

MRalwasserHello, what are wicket 1.5 new features in short compared to the most recent 1.4 release? The first release candidate will be released very soon. We're thinking about the introduction of wicket in one of our projects, so for me it's relevant to see what's coming up in 1.5 and if it's worth to b...

It's either that, or he thinks I downvoted because he asked an opinion question. Which he did, because all predicting-the-future questions are guessing games, but I didn't downvote.
 
Pair it with his edit.
> I don't agree that it is too early for this question. The released candidate is due to be released very soon and I am trying to decide which version to build our software on.
 
3:33 PM
Meh.
 
3:46 PM
Morning'
 
urgh
how many more points until I can vote to close questions or mark as duplicates
 
@DanGrossman 370, apparently.
 
oh good, closer than i thought
 
Assuming you're talking about SO. If you mean MSO, it's slightly more :)
 
Good Evening
 
3:59 PM
yesterday, by radp
J       Next
K       Previous

GU      Users
GT      Tags
GQ      Questions
GQU     Unanswered
GR      Reputation audit
G@      My user page
GI      Inbox
GE      Envelope
GS      Search

+       Upvote
-       Downvote
!       Flag
T       Retag
C       Close
B       Bounty
Enter   Edit
^Enter  Comment
QQ      Comment -1 not enough jQuery/your accept ratio is horrible!

U       User page of owner
Thoughts on these? They good?
Retag and Edit are the same, probably go with E for that. Not sure I like Enter for comment or GQU for Unanswered. Rather it be 2 characters also. And will G@ be annoying with needing shift?
 
4:18 PM
How is everyone doing this fine morning?
 
Good.
Any thoughts on ^^^? (:
 
up and downvote are 2 keys... it would be nice if it was only 1
 
I suggest remapping your keyboard
 
or let me do - and = respectively for upvote and downvote too
 
It should have a different mapping for each application, rendering the computer unusable for anyone other than yourself, including yourself when intoxicated.
 
4:20 PM
I was originally thinking V,U and V,D
2 "regular" keys are easier than shift+key it feels like
 
@RebeccaChernoff You'll already be pressing <kbd>Shift</kbd> for the G anyways, it doesn't seem too hard to keep holding it down for @. Does look weird to have a special character in there, though. Maybe GM for "Me" or GP for "Profile" instead? GN for "uNanswered"?
 
@PopularDemand, I'm representing the shortcuts with caps, I shouldn't be.
 
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Q: What do Stack Overflow users like for breakfast?

Tyler ChachaBreakfast, as I'm sure we all know, is the most important meal of the day. Meals being a topic near and dear to the heart of every Real Programmer, this seems like a perfect question to weed out the fake, imitation programmers... So, please respond with your favorite morning meal. If someone has...

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P and N are what I originally added, yeah. I also did R for Recent rather than E for Envelope. (I don't currently have one for the rep audit)
 
4:39 PM
I'm off to go improve the documents list
 
4:58 PM
@GeorgeMarian The stresses we go through as software developers, hahah.
 
5:20 PM
> Watch live: President Obama delivers speech the economy
Good job there MSNBC...
 
Hey, I actually got a [status-completed] tag revoked. Wow!
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Q: I'd like to see the last few IP addresses that my account was used from, please!

MosheI think that as a matter of security (in the Firesheep age) I'd like to see the last IP address from which my account was accessed next to my name, somewhere in the top bar. I'd also ideally like a history of my IP addresses (available only to me) in my account summary. Thoughts? EDIT: Right n...

 
Hehe, gotta love the hack that lets you do that.
 
@RebeccaChernoff - hack?
 
Pretty much.
 
What hack?
How so?
I gotta hear this one.
 
5:24 PM
Look at the history.
 
What, the merge feature?
 
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Q: Why am I allowed to delete moderator-only tags?

ravenOne would think only a moderator should be able to mess with moderator tags. P.S.: I was also able to reapply it during a rollback. So, actually I was able to both delete and apply a moderator tag. 3: Again, I rolled it back. It's no longer tagged "status-completed". Not trying to be an effe...

> this is not by design – Jeff Atwood♦ Jul 16 '09 at 21:18
 
Haha, was just going to paste that.
Awesome comment.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Worth 10% of an old-rules Pundit badge, too.
 
I'm dying to show you guys the new Document menu but I can't FTP via school
there
 
5:31 PM
@TylerChacha "Image not found"
 
TIFF Image: UNSUPPORTED
 
Ok, here's a question. With this shortcuts userscript, should it load with the question post initially selected, or should it wait for an initial j?
Leaning former.
 
I'm missing some context here, I think.
 
keyboard shortcuts userscript
 
Right.
 
5:38 PM
There's j/k to navigate next/prev posts
 
So when the page loads, you want to either automatically select one or wait for the key press.
 
Right.
Automatically selecting the question (ie, the first post) could be a bit too in-your-face.
 
Gotcha...How are you marking a post as being selected?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Is this to select a question in a list of questions, like the main page? Or to move to questions 70708/70706 if you're already on 70707?
 
Waiting for the shortcut means that I could scroll down and then hit j which would select the question.
 
5:40 PM
@PopularDemand Move between the question and its answers, I believe.
 
@PopularDemand I'm talking about viewing a specific question. I haven't touched /questions yet, just /questions/{id}
 
@TimStone "next" and "previous" don't have much meaning in that context.
 
Er? They're listed vertically on the page. :P
 
@TimStone Dashed border.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Hmm...
My biggest concern of course, as you mentioned, would be that it's too annoying if you don't care about it.
But a dashed bordered isn't terribly obnoxious..
 
5:42 PM
I'm certainly open to other css styling, that was just what popped into my head.
 
@PopularDemand Did either of those images work?
 
I guess it depends how often you anticipate using the functionality that requires that the post be selected.
Since arguably pressing the j key once doesn't involve that much effort, so if you aren't going to do it for every single question (since you can still scroll the page using the keyboard normally), then it's probably alright to not auto-select.
 
@TylerChacha Only the former.
 
k, it is the same image, just different providers
 
@TimStone But then if I'm reading the 4th answer on the page and hit j, it is going to scroll back up and select the question.
 
5:52 PM
I'm... really kinda surprised that nobody has stopped us:
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A: Speedy Questions

Popular DemandYep, there are that many users on at any given time, and many of them are experts in their fields. But nobody's getting paid, except in mostly worthless Internet dollars (i.e. reputation points).

(The comments, not the post itself.)
 
It isn't bumping the activity.
 
> TO ALL THOSE CONCERNED. THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN LABELED POINTLESS BY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE OF DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT CONVERSATIONS ARE STUPID. AKA THE ICDWNCAS. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CAT DEPUTY ON WRONGLY NOMINATING CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATES TO SENATE.
 
@PopularDemand Wow, that was definitely the laugh of the day.
 
@RebeccaChernoff That'll happen any time where you scroll past the selected piece though, hrm. Arguably in that case you could make a guess as to which post they actually wanted selected based on their position on the page, but hrm.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Just noticed the name change, did you get tired of the rchern in jokes?
 
5:58 PM
@LanceRoberts Thought I might try something more professional-y. I changed on MSO but not everywhere else yet. Not sure about it, hehe.
 
@PopularDemand lmao
 
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