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3:02 PM
@TheUnhandledException tabs are clickable now.. still just demoing.. posiverse.com/fosco
 
@Fosco Cool. I'll check it out when I get the bugs out of this JS slideshow
 
3:19 PM
I wonder why they're dragging their feet with the SO.chat
Are they developing some super secret mechanism to stop it being flooded by the thousands of SO users?
 
@YiJiang Well, that's easy. Let anyone participate, but only let five people in at a time.
 
Like kids in a shop
 
Hmmm... given that my banner suggestion's got 6 stars, should I go into Fireworks and actually make it?
 
@YiJiang Kinda too late for that, no?
 
Using jQuery would be easier, but I can't embed that easily into the chat, so as to gain moar starz!1!
 
Tim
3:26 PM
@YiJiang +1 for Fireworks
 
Actually I'm hoping four other people will agree to close all the millionth-question posts as "too localized."
 
@PopularDemand Share links. I will vote
oh wait, meta? I can't vote
sorry. going back to bugfixing now
 
Do not click unless you want to be blinded for the next three days -> jsfiddle.net/yijiang/U9B9R
4
 
MY EYES!!!!!! AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
 
needz moar marquee
 
3:36 PM
Muhahahahahaha
 
moar blinkenlights needed
 
@LasseVKarlsen Seen the SF meme?
 
Jeff wanted to to be blinkenlights
 
@TheUnhandledException The proposal, or did they implement it?
 
3:38 PM
But, it wasn't
@PopularDemand It's implemented
SU's is also. But both only work for the poster not everyone, so
 
@TheUnhandledException To chat.SF!
 
status-metas-meme-is-still-the-best
 
What is "the SF meme"?
 
3
Q: Pick an easter egg for chat.serverfault!

Jeff AtwoodOn chat.meta.stackoverflow, there's a little easter egg where text entered as [status-blah] will be rendered as a moderator only tag. We'd like to do something similar, but specific to serverfault -- namely, when you type a magic string, something amusing and in-joke-y for serverfault.com ...

 
Tim
@YiJiang Having..seizure..with my last breath..I...curse...you!
:P
 
3:41 PM
@TheUnhandledException I don't see the trigger word/phrase/CAPTCHA.
 
So what happens when they type rm -rf / ?
 
It removes all questions
 
status-lame
 
find . -name "user*" -type q -exec rm -rf {} + ;
that'd be good
 
3:46 PM
@LasseVKarlsen Test it out. Sadly it only works for you, not for everyone else in chat like
status-this-meme
But, I do understand why
 
I don't have access, not enough reputation
 
It would get really annoying otherwise
@LasseVKarlsen Oh
@LasseVKarlsen You should have:
 
Ah, not logged in
So used to the site just logging me in automatically
Well, glad I'm not going to chat on that site :)
I bet most chatrooms will be filled with *nix commands by newcomers for a while
 
@LasseVKarlsen LOL, yes
 
have you tried gaming yet?
 
3:51 PM
I haven't, if you were talking to me
 
mainly Josh, he was so after trying them all out
 
@balpha Not yet
I wasn't aware it had one yet :-)
@balpha likes to prevent me from doing real work ;-)
 
To be honest, the easter eggs should be kinda useful
Otherwise they're going to be overused, just for fun
 
the RPG one is, kinda
 
Which will be very annoying
 
3:52 PM
I love the RPG one
 
status-by-design
 
I was going to suggest that for gaming
 
is kinda useful
 
@TheUnhandledException What is it?
Dice rolls?
 
3:53 PM
Yup
 
Heh.
Ugh, people are going to start having campaigns in the chat, aren't they?
 
@LasseVKarlsen No "so." I retract my "ugh," I don't know why I put it there.
 
@balpha what's kinda bad about the gaming meme is that you have to send the trigger in public, but only triggers it locally
I guess having it activated via konami code would've been too messy, with the up and down button already bound?
 
@radp That's just like the SF one
But yeah, Konami code would have been üuber-awesome
As is, gaming's is my favorite meme
 
4:04 PM
How sad would admin-types be if I -- or, should I say, a sizable number of usres -- decided to disable googleapis/google-analytics using something like NoScript?
 
@radp I actually had it starting by chance only -- Jeff wanted a trigger phrase
 
I don't really know what they do.
@radp What is the trigger?
 
@PopularDemand For gaming?
 
it's starred and pinned in the main room :)
 
4:06 PM
@radp I went straight to the sandbox where something else is starred
By you, you twit ;-)
 
@TheUnhandledException yeah, that trigger is going to be removed
 
But after playing with it I saw why
 
Now we need to get MSO to 1million questions..
 
@Chacha102 I have flagged that as offensive
 
that's gonna take awhile...
 
4:07 PM
@balpha and @badp my Gravatar looks so sweet flying around the screen :-D
Alpha blending FTW
 
Tim
@rchern I was going to test all of the modifications made by your userscript for myself, and then viewed the source and realized I already had, heheh. ;) Nice job!
 
hm?
 
haha, what a surprise, Gran Turismo 5 postponed, again
I wonder if they're trying to compete with Duke Nukem
 
Tim
@rchern Based on the descriptions I thought you had somehow managed to throw in other stuff besides just the comment links in that short period of time, heh.
@LasseVKarlsen Seriously?
That is yet another thing that makes me sad. :(
 
4:14 PM
oh hehe. well i also have another mod which i will probably fold into this one
and may add more >_<
what should i add while i have it open and am in a javascript mood (;
 
Tim
@rchern Cool! :)
 
They're going to fail so hard that they will have whiplash damage the whole lot of them
 
Tim
I actually have no requests at the moment, heh. :P
 
There's no way this game is going to live up to the hype and the waiting period
 
Tim
@LasseVKarlsen But it's so shiny...
 
4:15 PM
Could be, but it's missing the number one feature of software
 
I'm off for lunch. Later everyone
 
That it is released!
 
Tim
Later @TheUnhandledException
 
Only 1.5 days now, SO chat
 
Tim
@LasseVKarlsen Well, true, but it's OK, because I have a backlog of unplayed games anyway.
So really they're just being kind to my busy schedule.
I applaud them for their efforts.
;)
 
4:16 PM
In that case, Duke Nukem should be right up your alley ;)
 
Tim
@LasseVKarlsen Did you see the video?
 
Of Duke Nukem?
Yes I did
 
Tim
Yeah, heh.
 
I thought we were done with games where you had a boss-fight where the boss was in the middle of a big circular room, and you could run around the edges taking pot-shots at him and pick up powerups
I thought that ended with Doom 2
 
Tim
Don't be silly.
Though I'm not sure if we're talking about the same video, since I seem to remember an older one that was like that?
 
4:21 PM
hmm, @Tim, 2 problems: 1) comment may not be loaded with the page initially, 2) the answer the comment belongs to may be on a different page
 
Tim
(Heed the not work safe warning in the Ars article, the video is..eh..)
 
That was the video I was referring to
 
Tim
@rchern Hmm..
Ah, OK :)
I thought it might be, but I wasn't sure.
(I'm also not sure if the older video that I'm thinking of was Duke Nukem or something else, either..heh.)
 
and i'm not sure anything can be done to work around either issue
 
Tim
@rchern There might be a potential solution, actually.
 
4:26 PM
begging people to upvote the comment so it is visible by default prior to linking to it? (;
 
Tim
Heheh, that works too :P
 
seems like the paging issue could be dealt with. hmm actually, does it even work already?
 
What are you discussing? Replies to comments on normal sites?
 
Tim
@rchern Actually I had a lapse of judgment; it's potentially fixable, but only for people who have the script installed, heh.
 
@LasseVKarlsen, I wrote a userscript based off of this comment
in Chat feedback, 1 hour ago, by Diago
Will it ever be possible to link to a comment on a question directly from chat?
adds a link to the page
 
Tim
4:30 PM
As far as the paging issue goes, I imagine if you hijack the link location from the answer, as long as the comment was visible you should end up on the correct page.
 
hahaha, this is one awesome url... http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/9953?page=3&tab=votes#tab-top#comment-88202
it'd work already if #tab-top didn't get added to the url
 
Tim
Wouldn't you be in trouble though if the question got up/down voted to a different page?
 
yeah
well, ohhhh idea
hrm
 
Tim
(though I imagine that's kind of rare if a comment is worth linking to, heh)
 
actually never mind. was wondering if i could leverage knowing the answer id, but i don't think that helps any
 
Tim
4:33 PM
But yeah, if you used the answer link, you could fix the non-shown comment problem for people with the script installed too, since if the comment ID wasn't present, you could pull the answer ID from the URL, then cause a click event on the comment expansion, and then refocus on the comment (assuming it wasn't deleted).
 
i can link to an answer directly that works with paging, but then that's a dead end i think
 
Tim
nods
The natural solution here is for everyone to use your userscript, of course.
 
@rchern Is this one o' them Greasemonkey jobbers?
 
aye
 
4:52 PM
@rchern You can save yourself the effort and just not include the window.location.href in the link. <a href="#comment-123456"> works fine
 
ah
still doesn't help the paging adding #tap-top though
or maybe it does? tests
nope
 
5:19 PM
I think I am going to follow cletus's example and stay very far away from MSO from now on.
 
@Diago Why?
 
@PopularDemand The meta community has become very intolerant, especially of anything that doesn't fall within "safe parameters". It is actually disheartening in a lot of ways, and even though I have been around a while, doesn't make me "want" to contribute anything anymore.
 
Really? All I remember from when I started browsing MSO are waffle, pony, Welbog and/or unicorn jokes. Not very productive.
 
@PopularDemand There was a time. But shrug not my problem anymore.
I am going to start following SF's mods example.
 
@Tim, wouldn't you know, I found a new weird icon today:
 
5:25 PM
Stop being so sensitive, Diago.
 
Tim
@PopularDemand Ah, yeah. I think that might be a merge icon, I'll have to double-check.
 
@Tim It seems to have resulted from someone's botched svn:move operation.
(I think you already know this, but... the repo has kinda gotten away from my team over the past week.)
 
@Shog9 I'll do you one better. I'll stop altogether. The double standard is really not worth it. That's exactly what I have a problem with.
 
@Diago You posted a suggestion, we gave you feedback. That's what the site is for - if you just want changes made without discussion, the normal procedure is to make a (somewhat-insulting) blog post about SO and get it voted up on Reddit so that Jeff freaks out and implements it without thinking
damn.
That dude is slippery.
 
I swear that people on Stack Overflow have become extremely cheap with up-votes in the past 2 weeks
 
Tim
5:29 PM
@PopularDemand Due to unfamiliarity with the system, or things just really misbehaving?
 
@Tim Probably a bit of both. We just added some new people.
 
Tim
Ah, gotcha.
 
@Fosco Cheap as in stingy, or cheap as in "we don't think upvotes are worth much so we'll give them to everyone"?
 
@PopularDemand Cheap as in stingy
I was going to use the word 'stingy' but everytime I type it, it never looks like it sounds.
It used to be if I got a quick answer, at least one up vote would be imminent.
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A: MySQL Display Table Name Along With Columns

FoscoWhat if you select the tables in order, and add a spacer column with the name. i.e. select 'table1', t1.*, 'table2', t2.*, 'table3', t3.* ... At least that way you don't have to name specific columns.

0
A: displaying names in an array

FoscoYou're creating the DIVs at the same point you're outputting the names? Maybe something like this would help: $garray = array("Jhon","Mark","Josh","Buckwheat"); doGroupDiv("Jhon",$garray); function doGroupDiv($group, $grouparray) { echo '<div id="' . $group . '">'; foreach ($groupar...

Those 2 questions are days old, at least three answers each, not one upvote on any answer
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A: Passing an array of values in an ASP.NET jQuery AJAX POST

FoscoIs the select element inside a form tag? You can serialize the entire form and send it through easily. var formdata = $('#formId').serialize(); Then in your ajax call data: formdata, -- Recently I dealt with a very similar issue. I am also using a C# Web Service, but the data I am dealin...

0
A: Giving a variable a value of 1 or 0 based on whether another variable appears in query results

FoscoIf you had pasted the query, we'd be able to provide a fixed version. You can do this multiple ways, but one would be to add a column to your query and use a CASE statement. select *, CASE WHEN username = '$u' THEN 1 ELSE 0 END as topten from ... This is just an example.. obviously to prevent...

Those 2 are a half hour old.. same thing, no upvotes on anything.
 
to be fair, those are really boring questions
 
5:40 PM
@Shog9 All of my answers are boring, but I have 4800 rep so people definitely up-vote boring shite. :) At least they have in the past..
bbs
 
Eh, give 'em time. I've waited months for a response on answers before
 
6:07 PM
never thought of this like that...
0
A: Is the name "webmasters" the right name for this site?

FarseekerMy biggest problem with the term "Webmaster" is that it's not gender-neutral. I also agree with everything else everyone's said pretty much, but that's the only "new" point I have to submit.

 
Gender-neutral is a ridiculous spec to try an attain, leading only to weird uses of words.
 
you mean, words/wordesses?
 
would someone ever say mistress of disguise for instance?
 
The answer below has a point if the majority of questions are SEO related...
mistress as a word has been destroyed by being too often grouped with adultery
 
A limitation of the English language, only having a feeble two genders. Many languages fare much better.
 
6:15 PM
How does one know if a post of theirs has been flagged?
 
Tim
It seems that the origins of the word "master" don't imply a sense of gender-specificity at all, so the fact that there are some definitions that are gender-specific doesn't automatically mean that words composed in part with "master" imply those definitions.
@MarcGravell Let's convert everything to Finnish, that way we can get rid of those pesky pronouns too. :D
 
Needs to go to English.stackexchange.com
Welsh is good for conjugation.
 
@Fosco, let me go find a post of yours to flag and we'll find out...
q:
 
@Fosco SO post or chat post?
 
@balpha Chat.. nothing important, just occurred to me..
 
6:17 PM
you can't, unless you have 10k
just like on the sites
 
Just earn 10k rep on the parent site (:
 
Tim
@MarcGravell They didn't even notice the glaring error in their welcome message, I dunno about those folks ;)
 
dunno <--- please!
 
Has anything of mine ever been flagged? What is the impact.. i.e. how would I know I said something offensive..
suspension is how i'd find out? :)
 
Tim
:P
 
6:18 PM
there's a typo in e.se's welcome message?
 
Tim
@rchern the "Welcome to Q&A site for..." bit, unless that was fixed.
 
Normally someone will chat back and say :) heavily flagged posts do get auto-deleted, and there are... other measures (:
 
i'm not getting the message
@MarcGravell I halfway approve of your smiley usage (;
 
@MarcGravell ok thanks for the info.
 
6:21 PM
I'm going to have to write a webapps egg that fixes smileys. Just for you (:
 
\o/
LOL
 
Maybe an animated crazy rotating thing
 
Tim
@MarcGravell That's brilliantly evil :P
 
awww, not if it is gonna rotate it backwards ):
 
I like how GChat turns them into an animated gif that rotates vertically
would be neat if it worked both ways here, to out-do google.
 
6:23 PM
Mine will rotate through the higher-order dimensions. Only the genius will be able to see them.
The emporer's new smileys
 
| <-- this is a smiley seen from the side
| <-- this is a backward smiley seen from the side
problem solved
 
this easter egg is sounding less and less cool (;
 
| <-- this is everything balpha has ever said, from the side.
 
. <~~ zoomed out from the side
 
@Fosco @Fosco's suspension in 3...2...1...
 
6:25 PM
<~~ zoomed out even further
 
furhet how did you manage that?
 
@rchern :D (: :P d:
 
@Tim Not marked as such:
 
iPod
 
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Q: Grammar error in new user banner message

Popular DemandI originally posted this on the Programmers Meta here, but as @MichaelMrozek pointed out, the same typo is present in all sites' messages. The banner message for new/not-logged-in users reads Welcome to Q&A site for [site-specific description]... There should be an article in there: ...

 
6:26 PM
That alone explains most typos
 
@rchern Webmaster, Webmaster, where's the dreams that I've been after? Webmaster, Webmaster, promised only SEO!
 
o:
they need to hurry up and graduate so that i can update the favicon in StackFlair >_<
 
I paraphrase this question as... Can someone read for me?
0
Q: Can someone summarize Covestor's terms of usage?

ripper234It's a bit long, I might get insane if I try to parse it. http://site.covestor.com/terms-of-use Also, their "Client aggreement" https://cdn03.covestor.com/documents/mirroring-account/covestor-client-agreement-online-version-25-may-2010.pdf

 
needz [cliff-notes] tag
 
Tim
@PopularDemand Ah yeah, that's what I thought, heh.
 
6:29 PM
> Marcia Wagshol of Wellington, Florida, sold tickets at a movie theater back when ushers escorted patrons to their seats, and the women's rights movement was in its infancy.

> Marcia writes: As I sat in the cashier's box, time and again, middle-aged husbands would approach me to purchase tickets for themselves and their wives. One adult they would say, smirking, and - ha ha - one child.

> Their wives would smile weakly, and I would look at them both in disgust. Deep down in my teenage brain, I knew on some level that it was insulting to women. Worse, the so-called joke was corny and unor
I want my blockquoting.
 
@rchern A little birdie tells me the next Api version of stackauth includes favicon paths
 
@PopularDemand I seem to recall hearing that on NPR a while back. Source?
 
@Shog9 Correct. That's copied from a transcript, see npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129609445
Is it actually possible to get blockquoting in a multi-line thing?
 
@MarcGravell, as long as siteUrl + "/favicon.ico" works, does it matter much?
 
@MarcGravell twitter?
 
6:33 PM
@Fosco Feel free to down-vote ;)
 
@PopularDemand aha! Good ol' ATC - I'd listen more often, but there's no podcast.
 
@pop quoting just doesn't work in multiline
 
@PopularDemand You're supposed to just post multiple, consecutive messages
 
@balpha Nooooooooooo, what have I done to deserve this don't answer that???
 
Thereby inflating your post stats
 
6:34 PM
@ChrisF, seems like closing that as NARQ would be halfway decent (;
 
@ChrisF done.
 
Keeping you solidly in the top-ranks of time-wasters for this chat room
don't fight it...
 
@rchern - I was waiting to see if there were any flags/close votes from anyone else, but might as well be proactive
 
@Shog9 I wouldn't mind that so much if it didn't have so much of a chance of getting broken up by other people's messages.
 
Get @Chacha102 to make you a room owner & just lock the room while posting...
A more serious problem might be the occasional issue with consecutive posts appearing out of order
perhaps the best solution then is to post several simple messages in quick succession, and then edit in the proper content
> The quick brown foxes jumped over the lazy dog
> Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country
> He thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts
 
6:38 PM
@PopularDemand This sounds very familiar
 
@Shog9 That's actually reasonable. Though it will increase infuriating hits on the rate limiter.
@MichaelMrozek Yeah? Well... uh... your face.
 
@PopularDemand Yeah, someone needs to write a GM script to compensate for that.
 
hehehe
yeah
someone really should
 
@Shog9 Always with Greasemonkey!
Though I admit I'm curious how such a script would work.
 
I just can't wait to eat that monkey
The easiest way would be to detect the "retry in..." message and set a timer to automatically submit it
 
6:40 PM
stackflair.com/SEChatRetry.user.js <<< use ctrl+space to retry
 
A more involved technique would be to intercept every post, check the time of the last submission, and hold them in queue for posting once past the rate-limiter cut-off
the danger with the latter being adaptive rate-limiting would be hard to work around
Grr... Why is there no "view source" for userscripts in Chrome?
99 bottles of beer on the wall
 
@Shog9 There's no way to temporarily mass disable them either :(
 
99 bottles of beer
take one down
98 bottles of beer
Chrome sucks
chrome
@rchern doesn't seem to work :-/
 
balpha's probably sitting there, editing the rate limiter in real time just to mess with you.
 
I wouldn't put it past him. Crafty german.
 
6:44 PM
MUAHAHAHA
 
I wonder how many times if(Poster.DisplayName == "Shog9") appears in the code
 
I wonder how many places
 
@Shog9, it's what i use...
 
> // if (Poster.DisplayName == "Welbog")
 
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Q: Confusing message on re-voting

SilentGhostI have upvoted an answer then took my vote back, and after the question was finally corrected, wanted to upvote again, but get such an error: what does it even mean? According to the notification latest vote was cast 14 minutes ago, but question was edited 10 minutes ago.

 
6:46 PM
> // if (Poster.DisplayName == "Double Welbog")
if (Poster.DisplayName == "Toronto")
 
@rchern Well you didn't have to remove 3.
 
yup, ctrl+space works to retry
 
lack
see
ical
i may know the problem
1
 
^^^ you forgot daze
 
@rchern that one got eaten by the rate limiter
@rchern that one got eaten by the rate-limiter
 
6:48 PM
the rate limiter still stops it, but ctrl-space triggers the retry
 
@Shog9 Huh, dupe post. And what's more, they're out of order!
 
That's the bit I'm having trouble with...
one
 
is confuzzled
 
more
time
here we go
stupid Chrome refresh issue
 
If only there were a room somewhere to experiment with these things. Some sort of box, optionally filled with sand
8
 
6:49 PM
It may be sandbox time for you guys.
 
thanks, @rchern
 
Mrozek!!!
 
@PopularDemand Way to ruin my subtlety
I was going to have them guessing for hours
 
Pops is nothing if not a ruiner
 
i'm sure @balpha has noticed a steep drop in my complaining about the rate limiter lately (;
 
/me has noticed that, yes
 
lousy onebox not supporting deleted posts
 
lousy API returning 404 for deleted posts
 
lousy API not supporting deleted posts
 
lousy posts being deleted in the first place
 
lousy users posting deletion-worthy posts in the first place
 
lousy moderators taking their balls and going home
 
@balpha Lousy SE heuristics, not blocking such posts in the first place
 
@PopularDemand A second sandbox?
 
6:52 PM
He wasn't room-owner in enough rooms yet
 
@MichaelMrozek Yeesh, I try to cover for you, and this is the thanks I get.
 
@PopularDemand Lousy idea to create a side where users can post deletion-worthy posts
 
@MichaelMrozek This one's more peaceful than the other one maybe?
 
Someone post an answer with "Twitter" here:
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Q: What sites should have hyperlinking (onebox) support in chat?

Juha SyrjäläSome sites are integrated to chat . What additional sites should the chat support? One suggestion per answer.

 
6:55 PM
twitter already does
 
huh?
what @rchern said
 
@Shog9 Thanks again, @balpha, for making me feel like my bounty was useful.
 
I'm sure he knows that, but I missed whatever joke this is referencing
 
@rchern Yes, I know. I want to down-vote it.
 
LOL
nothx
 
6:55 PM
If we're going to post things on there to get downvoted, we should start with oneboxing experts exchange posts
 
@MichaelMrozek Don't we already do that?
Just with a different skin?
 
@MichaelMrozek You could just cut to the chase and suggest oneboxing ads
 
Feature request: Fill the first page of answers on an SO question with registration requests, and put the real answers under the page footer
 
...Then obfuscate the answer text.
 
expert SEX change
 
6:59 PM
It's been so long since I was on that site I actually can't remember what it looks like
@Fosco I never thought that was half as funny as the rest of SO apparently does
It's like one step above writing "Micro$oft"
 
@MichaelMrozek You are not alone.
 
@MichaelMrozek I'm happy for you.
 
Cross site rooms should support oneboxing
 
@MichaelMrozek ...Which is totally hilarious
 
I never said it was funny.. simply said it.
 
6:59 PM
For example
 

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