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11:00 PM
@rchern simple and effective. I like it
@rchern Building the HTML each time I understand, but isn't building the image each time pretty intensive on the server?
 
I thought about storing both the html and the image rather than the data
But adding themes is [status-planned] and that would complicate it.
If someone is displaying their flair in different places, and a different theme for each, I shouldn't need to pull data per theme.
 
I think storing the data makes perfect sense. Do you have expires headers on the image so it's cacheable for like an hour or something?
 
status-planned
 
:-)
For my company's main product (a CMS/website framework system) I put a caching proxy in front of the entire dynamic (PHP) system, so that the PHP code can, say, generate an image and future requests it will be served directly (very quickly) from the webserver
 
As soon as I can decide on a url format, nobeta and singlesite (<< needs a better param name) are basically ready to go
Caching isn't something I've dealt with much. I guess it is more
status-research
 
11:05 PM
status-helpful
Seriously improved performance when we enabled it across all sites
 
the url format bothers me more since there are several features being blocked by it
 
@rchern What have you come up with so far?
 
I'd rather avoid encrypting all parameters into a single string, though it'd be the easiest
 
@rchern Yeah that can be a pain for users...
 
separate them then. with commas!
 
11:10 PM
Hey, Anyone know the key equiv of "Show Address Bar" for Firefox onWindows?
 
alt+d?
why is it hidden?
Alt+V,T,N would be the slow, menu way
 
in Super User, 4 mins ago, by The Unhandled Exception
LOL, just got this question from Aardvark:
> My URL is missing so I am not able to even copy and paste a URL
She is so far beyond my help though, LOL
Hey, awesome job @Shog9!
@Shog9 > youre a genius! I swear Ive been trying everything for about 3 hours, it just disappeared and Im trying to send a url to someone! Let him know I said thank you:)
 
HA!
I wonder what her "view" menu is actually called...
 
"Look here silly" maybe?
nah, Alt-V wouldn't have worked
 
actually, scratch that - if she turned the nav toolbar off, she probably turned the menu bar off as well...
 
11:15 PM
I just wasted a good hour looking at jqGrid... so overcomplicated, I will wind up just writing my own simple grid.
 
@Shog9 ah HA, probably :-)
@Fosco Check Ext
 
@Fosco yeah, HTML gives you tables for free, you gotta have some pretty hefty needs to use a grid.
 
Wait, where'd ExtJS go...?
 
This one side-job I'm working on, the client is very... tedious..., and wants both the ability to upload a spreadsheet of data, and edit it online
 
11:17 PM
@TheUnhandledException ExtJS is now Sencha
 
Yeah, I had no idea :-)
So you've heard of it. Oh well :-)
 
did ya get that... thing i sencha?
 
lol
I have another, better, editable HTML grid bookmarked somewhere...
 
I like Sencha as well, but still.. for what I'm doing it will take me longer to use something..
A simple html table with an edit screen would work.
I'm just getting tired of working on it for the low $$.
 
@Fosco I know that feeling!!!
Before I found the product formerly know as ExtJS I built my own editable HTML grid in Javascript. It was hideous :-)
 
11:20 PM
@TheUnhandledException :)
 
I can send you the code if you want to use it @Fosco! Boy, what a great salesman I am, huh?
 
I don't like using ExtJS if I can avoid it... the code is hideous.
 
@Fosco So bad I wrote an entire PHP wrapper system to avoid using ExtJS code :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException oh yeah?.. now that is clever and my kind of thinking.
 
@Fosco Yeah. I also intended it to be so we could replace ExtJS in the future... but our UIs are so damn complicated, that goal evaporated...
We have grids which open windows with tabpanels containing split panes with dual grids, which double clicking on opens more windows containing tabpanels...
 
11:24 PM
You should totally drop that and try Sharepoint
 
@TheUnhandledException yikes... i love it.
 
@Shog9 Flagged as spam ;-)
@Fosco (That example is our eCommerce system -- a grid listing orders, double clicking opens a order details window, containing grids of the items ordered, double clicking opens the actual product details window)
Customers LOVE it. Was a pain in the ass to build but so worth it
I have far too many bookmarks, I cannot find this other grid/html UI system!
 
The proper way to bookmark stuff is to link to it from answers on SO
 
@Shog9 You are correct.
 
(but only do it once. Otherwise, IT'S SPAAAAAAM!)
 
11:28 PM
Firefox to the rescue
@Fosco code.google.com/p/smartgwt is an Ext Alternative
Yeah, that was it!
Chrome doesn't support bookmark tags???
Epic FAIL
 
@TheUnhandledException thanks for the link..
 
I have to put my foot down with this guy though
 
yeah, this is by no means a trivial rewrite :-)
but if you hate ExtJS and need grids...
 
@TheUnhandledException Chrome sucks as a webbrowser.
 
11:32 PM
Wrong room
 
@Shog9 -1 Retarded
 
Hey, don't get me wrong, I love Chrome and am using it right now... for running what is essentially an app
 
I was just about sold on it after using it for chat the past 2 days
@Shog9 Very well put
Hey Safari lacks bookmark tags also. I need those
as demonstrated by my lack of finding the above link w/o them ;-)
 
Chat, GMail, Reader, Wave, Mibbit... They're all great in Chrome, as though Chrome was built specifically to host them... which, it sorta was
But if I'm researching something, or wading through an unfamiliar API, it's Firefox all the way
 
11:35 PM
Agreed @Shog9
 
So Chrome is the browser I use for running apps, and Firefox is the browser I use for browsing
 
I don't see why... I haven't had firefox installed in 6+ months.
 
@Fosco You can live without firebug? gasp
 
@Fosco *shrug* - I'm not saying you can't get by without it. But why would you?
 
the chrome dev tools have worked well for me..
though perhaps it's been so long, I don't remember what I'm missing.
 
11:37 PM
oh, and I didn't even mention extensions
Last night, I'm filling in a form (in Firefox) to return something I bought off Amazon
(mfg warranty claim, not returned to amazon)
so the form wants me to upload an image of the receipt. I don't have an image of the receipt. The "receipt" is a web page on Amazon.
No problem - I grab some FF extension that can save web pages as an image, restart (pages restored, complete with form values), and save my receipt.
 
How do y'all feel about urls like... basic: /generate/{guid}.{format} and options: /generate/options/nobeta,theme-foo,size-large/{guid}.{format}
@Shog, there are chrome extensions for that too i'm quite certain
 
Saved me, what, maybe a minute over screen-grab and copy-paste in Paint? But it's the little things...
 
@Shog9 same extension is there in Chrome
(former FF fan )
 
@Sathya link?
 
@rchern I like
 
11:42 PM
@rchern seems... odd to put the options in the middle of the URL
are you going for something that'll be more easily recognized by parsers that just look at the end of the URL for an extension?
 
@rchern I agree with @Shog9, he makes a good point. Can options be at the end?
/generate/{guid}.{format}/options/nobeta,theme-foo,size-large
 
can't live w/o Lazarus form recovery chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/…
 
11:45 PM
@Sathya thanks, trying it...
 
That's right, I forgot about the requ(irement|est) that the URL end in an image extension
 
@Sathya that's pretty cool - I like the annotation support. But why does it only let me save as a JPEG?
 
@Shog9 you're welcome
@Shog9 its apparently a bug with Chrome code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=44758
 
hehe, i like that. requ(irement|est)
but yeah, that's my reasons for tossing the options in the middle there
 
11:51 PM
In that case, I deem it a clever hack and give you my full support (offer void in Quebec, worthless elsewhere)
 
@Shog9 yup
 
Fish in the dishwasher, wut?! cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/4708/…
damnit
it unwraps my referral URL
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@hobodave WHAT THE F**??? ROFLMAO!
Quote J Wynia:
> That's strange, but not entirely nuts
I personally beg to differ
 
this damn badge is impossible
 
aww
what's your userid? (;
 
11:57 PM
@rchern Which one?
 
@rchern 60
 
(@hobo)
 
(hint, one more!)
 
done
 
11:59 PM
dammit, i was upvoting it!
 
@TheUnhandledException how many +/- in that ?
 

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