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3:00 PM
Precisely one month.
9:00AM MDT October 27, and 59 seconds.
 
FWIW, @balpha should probably take a look at that underscore bug, since it also breaks the YouTube embedder (and there's no workaround for that).
 
Argh. So, youtube means __ is no longer an edge case?
 
It's actually just any situation where the _ comes after a non-word character.
 
@mootinator Okay, I was a little off =P
 
(of which __ is a variation)
So then you get this:
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Q: YouTube URL parser chokes on underscore and dash

CyberSkull Possible Duplicate: Fail of markdown parser detected if _ are used in naked url Link with double-underscored word in URL renders incorrectly I'm posting this video as part of the solution to this question, but the problem is that the YouTube URL parser chokes on the link. http://www...

 
3:03 PM
I was more thinking that a month isn't an exact measure of time. Because it's not always the same length.
 
Or is it weird to say exactly one month because months themselves are inexact?
Beat me to it.
 
The fix seems rather easy anyway, even if it is an edge case.
 
"This very day, next month, should next month have an equivalent day."
"I'll have to check my calendar."
 
"Actually, I've decided to work with someone else, who is not so weird and specific about months."
 
Month is weird anyway. MonTH .... Monnnnnthh .... Moooooooooonths .... hmmmooonnthh.
 
3:10 PM
@Bart is an early candidate for the Drunk badge.
 
I hllove youou
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Bart will soon be unconscious. We should begin planning now the classic pranks we will pull on him.
Like putting his hand in warm water.
Or framing him for a murder.
Or drawing on him with Sharpie.
 
@jadarnel27 Bazinga
 
@Shog9 Whew. :P
I WILL GET OUT MY STAMP OF APPROVAL THEN
...But no, I will still gripe about minor styling details. Overall the concept seems pretty nice though.
 
3:33 PM
The next time someone argues that "noob problems" can't lead to great answers, I'll point them to this stackoverflow.com/a/19052598/488657
 
Oh. The skeet got in.
 
@Bart: weird how many upvotes he gets.
(I also just gave one fwiw)
usual people do not get that many... I guess he is popular.
@Bart: btw, how many days should I wait for objections on meta before going ahead with the tagging?
 
I'm sure there is a minor Skeet effect @LaszloPapp. But that's a great, well written, clear and educative answer.
 
yes, that is why I voted up.
but still, I or someone else "normal" would get 2-5 maximum.
 
Hmm, depends a bit on the input you receive. I'd say there is no hurry, so I'd give it a couple of days.
 
3:39 PM
I disagree. If you wrote something as comprehensive and clear, you would also get many upvotes.
 
I wrote a lot of stuff like that.
so did many other people.
 
And still at the moment viewed 423 times vs. 38 upvotes
 
this post got at least 5-6 upvotes as we just speak.
that is, within a few minutes.
I am sure there is some "fan-club" around.
 
@Oded Probably 15 or so rather than 300.
There are three things going on here:
 
@Bart: OK, I will start tagging in case of no objection the week after next week.
 
3:41 PM
1. Easy question, most people feel qualified to verify.
2. Great answer.
3. Jon Skeet
Those three things =)
 
Also, zero score question, but 42 score for the answer within an hour or so.... I am sure he has some fan-club ongoing.
 
4. It got bumped a couple of times due to updates.
 
/me does not understand bumps
there are people who check the bumped?
I mean focusing on them?
 
@LaszloPapp They appear on the front page again
 
not in the tag
I mean I go to the tag "c++" or "qt"
and edits do not bump stuff in there.
I thought people would be going to the tags they are interested in?
 
3:44 PM
not on the "newest" tab no. On the "active" tab you will get the bump effect
 
The problem with the Skeet effect is that it's hard to measure. With this question in particular it is actually the case that good answers to easy questions get voted up to the moon.
 
then I am at the "wrong" part of SO
 
He tweeted the answer.
 
there are many simple C++ and Qt questions we answer daily.
we do not have anything like this mountain effect.
 
How many things can go wrong with a single if statement? http://stackoverflow.com/a/19052598/22656?stw=2
 
3:45 PM
not even any close.
 
Myeah, that will do it @TimStone
 
Ah, so the fan club got involved =)
 
Also someone linked it in here, so it got at least a couple votes from us.
 
I tried to make a test for measuring that in general.
 
@Bart yeps
 
3:47 PM
I sure didn't comment that query very well, sheesh.
 
IMHO, it is quicker than a well-written upvoting algorithm. :)
 
@mootinator Comments just make Data Explorer work harder to strip them out.
 
Ha.
 
That code is terrible by the way, someone should totally be ashamed of themselves and clean it up.
 
>_<
 
3:49 PM
But I need to fix OpenID stuff first.
Before that though, I guess I should do stuff I get paid for, or something.
 
Anyway, I think what that question proves beyond a doubt is that it's still September.
 
Yet I do not have high hopes for October @mootinator ;)
 
I can always hope the first year students figure out that syntax isn't something trivial that you try to get "close enough" then complain when it doesn't work.
 
A bad exam grade come mid-October might scare some people away.
 
3:52 PM
"You mean computers aren't like people who just figure out what I meant to say? This is BS! BS I say!"
 
I wonder how many upvotes that answer would have received if it had been written by Jon. :)
 
This makes me want to go back to college.
Downvotes? goes to investigate
 
All you need to do is continue to be awesome for several years @LaszloPapp. Perhaps write some excellent books. Get a great body of followers on your Twitter account as a result. And then you'll rake in the rep.
 
I want to go back to college so I can just skip it and start doing something useful with my life ;P
 
@Bart: I dislike twitter. :p
writing a book is a good idea, eventually.
 
3:55 PM
#oldfashioned
 
we would need a Qt5 (+c11) book, maybe.
 
You could call it "Qt5 (+c11) In Depth"
 
Haha
 
Well, probably not, unless you get that particular publisher.
 
And change your name to Skon Jeet
 
3:58 PM
No disrespect to Mr. Jeet, but there are probably better people to aspire to be, if you're working off of SO participation alone.
 
mootinator: I think that would be a too short book
 
I'm spending far too much time enjoying myself here and far too little time automating marketing document generation.
 
but Qt5 would definitely make sense for a few years.
I wonder if anyone is working on that?
and how is this possible to know?
or authors do not care just write?
I would probably not care if I was committed, and could not find anything.
 
@Pops Out of curiosity, who do you have in mind (better people to aspire to be based on SO participation)?
 
4:13 PM
Sure, let's go with moot's answer.
 
I mean, who wants to just write a book about a language when you can create it instead.
 
That code on Skon Jeet's "about me" make me cringe;
 
VB!
shakes his fist at that code.
 
Right. And then he ends it with a semicolon.
 
Tsk.
 
4:17 PM
We'll call it VB#.
 
4:41 PM
@Bart: interesting how I got two downvotes for my question right after your bounty.
@Bart: or bounty gives one -1 by default?
@Oded: was the feature request of date count down raised on meta yet?
for the ban expiration, that is, when you go to review.
(or did I do something wrong that it was not counting down?)
 
No, a bounty will merely cause a bump @LaszloPapp. There is no associated penalty for the OP.
 
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4:59 PM
@Bart: ok, thanks.
@Bart: thanks for your sacrifice. :)
 
Precious precious rep, giving it away as if it has no value whatsoever.....
 
:-)
 
I heard a rumour you can trade reps for bitcoins. And then get banned.
 
My "Starbucks for Meta Rep" scheme is successful, but still involves a lot of running away from employees
 
"respect is everything"
 
5:06 PM
Test complete! I should think about the interview now... The one question I get asked every time that always stumps me is "What is your biggest weakness?"
 
Don't go with "answering stupid interview questions" that has never worked for me.
 
@Bart: btw, qtestlib should be qttestlib as the tag name
 
"My undying love for your wife"
 
is this the case when we can use the synonym stuff?
 
I really don't understand why that question seems to be mandatory.
 
5:08 PM
I personally asked that question myself when I interviewed a person.
 
@Bart That makes me think of Horrible Bosses.
 
@LaszloPapp It is QTestLib, isn't it?
 
@Bart: nope, the module is called qttestlib
qt$foo in general.
strictly speaking, qttest would be better.
but consistency is good.
 
Next time I do an interview I'm just going to answer "I have too many big weaknesses to count."
 
That will probably work better.
 
see the url... qttestlib in there too
@Bart: QTestLib would be a namespace or class name in Qt
@Bart: we do not use QFoo in Qt for module names.
 
My biggest weakness: "I always confuse Qt with Tk"
 
Apparently 165 people applied, but only 75 people showed up for testing...
 
5:13 PM
mootinator: I like that question because I am looking for the person how he reacts that.
mootinator: people like you who get mad is a clear sign of no go for me.
the recommended way of replying to that according to a good book: try to highlight a weakness that you can turn into sounding positive at the end of the explanation.
and smiley. :-)
e.g. I am a bit nitpicky when reviewing code, but on the other hand it is also beneficial for the project quality. :)
 
@LaszloPapp Asking that is attempting to glean something most people are unqualified to. Also I didn't say anything about getting mad, nor was I being entirely serious.
 
I like asking 1-2 weird and unusual questions to see how the candidate replies to those.
if he gets mad, then I achieved my purpose. I cannot work with that person in the long term.
if he remains peaceful and friendly, and answers something reasonable, that is a good point for me.
everyone has weaknesses after all.
I would suggest you to read a good book about the topic before going to the next interview.
I can try to dig the book up for you if you wish. I do not know the title off-hand.
 
@LaszloPapp Seriously, stop.
 
@Bart: shall I create qttestlib, and use synonym?
 
I honestly can't tell what your issue is.
 
5:20 PM
there was a rant about a question asked at the interview.
that most people ask for very good reasons.
and I tried to reply why I did, and why I have read others do, too.
if it is not helpful, I apologize. I only tried to help.
 
Anyone else having trouble getting Meta.SO to load?
 
it is under maintenance.
 
yep @animuson
 
I was sending the image to a friend a few mins ago
@Bart: is that how it should happen when I realize a mistakenly named tag?
 
@LaszloPapp You come off as a bit patronizing.
 
5:23 PM
not sure what that means, but anyway: I stated my intention above.
there was a question asked, and then I replied with my opinion.
if that is a bit patronizing, let it be. :)
 
> patronizing - Verb - Treat with an apparent kindness that betrays a feeling of superiority.
 
If what seems to have been referred to as the "QTestLib framework" in Qt4 and "qttestlib" in Qt5 are essentially the same thing, it might be appropriate. But I couldn't give you the final word on that.
 
Like what I just did.
 
And with that we have discovered your greatest weakness @mootinator :p
 
@Bart And what is that?
 
5:25 PM
Your annoyance regarding questions asking for your greatest weakness
 
I don't actually get annoyed by the question... I just think it's pointless. I was expressing an opinion.
 
@Bart: ok, I will have a hopefully simpler question. :)
 
We had to do one of those "read the statement and then circle true or false for the ideal and real response" tests too... I really don't understand those.
 
@Bart: qt-quick -> qtquick?
 
90% of what I say should be taken with a pinch of salt @mootinator. The other 10% should be ignored.
 
5:27 PM
we have the qt${modulename} tagging schema in place on SO (mostly)
 
If we've gleaned a weakness from this conversation it's that I'm especially sensitive to patronizing statements like "I would suggest you to read a good book about the topic before going to the next interview." as if I, as someone not especially good at interviews, hasn't already read volumes on the topic.
 
A lot of them are silly things like "Most people take advantage of an employer's generosity." - Like, what the hell do you circle for something like that? How would I know what most people do?
 
That's a good question.
 
@animuson It doesn't matter. As long as you give back the pencil at the end
 
Not only do they want me to guess for my response, but they also want me to guess what the ideal response is...
 
5:29 PM
@Bart: so I should create qtquick, and create a synonym between the two?
 
I just concluded that it was some sort of test to determine how cynical people are and circled false for all of them.
 
Well, that seems safer.
People who think "everyone does X" are more likely to use that to justify doing it themselves.
 
The docs seem to use both versions almost interchangeably @LaszloPapp. I'm not sure. If you find this really needs to happen, perhaps bring it up on Meta. I'm not fully aware of appropriate tag naming schemes or the requirements for synonyms.
 
Kind of pointless to pose the question to analytical people though, if that's the goal.
 
@Bart: mind backing up your statement with links?
 
That test makes me feel like a real-life Sheldon Cooper...
 
@Bart: also, I said I do not care which naming schema is in use, but the one in use must be consistent IMHO
not some random stuff
@Bart: that documentation looks consistent to me, and it is not using '-'
 
That's in place of a space within tags. I don't think tags can have a space, can they?
 
I do not know.
but consistency is good.
also qt-quick2 is all kind of strange. :)
first: -
second: should be qtdeclarative
 
You should talk to Charles. You would make the best of friends. :p
 
5:35 PM
?
 
Our resident tag-watcher extraordinaire
Or as he says "I'm a proud member of the New Tag Deletionist Cabal."
 
nah
I only care about the Qt quality on SO
and perhaps C++
and the current Qt tagging system is a mess
and in need of love. :)
which I am trying to contribute.
need to leave, but @mootinator: you got my intention wrong, and I apologize for that. I did not wanna look like as what you described. I tried to answer the question raised.
 
@LaszloPapp No problem, I do understand.
 
Cheers, back after cycling maybe.
 
6:02 PM
That's cool how he apologized that you misunderstood him. That's definitely how sincere apologies work.
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
6:18 PM
I definitely like the combined rep summary thing in the new multicollider topbar doodad.
 
/me cannot apparently even apologize
 
GoDaddy automatically updated my client's WordPress installation to a newer version the other day, which broke their site.
When I logged in, there was a popup that said "something went wrong with the update; would you like to rollback?"
If you knew something went wrong, why did you not just roll it back automatically, and let me update manually?
 
@LaszloPapp Don't worry about @jadarnel27 he's just a br0wn.
 
"Oh you found out? Well, in that case, something went wrong... We were hoping you wouldn't notice."
 
Wait, what...
 
6:36 PM
:-) Right. Time for helping Qt and C++ users.
 
@animuson Haha, that is certainly what it felt like, regarding the GoDaddy thing.
Whatever automated process they have setup seems kind of naive.
It assumes there's nothing custom about your folder structure, and just basically installs WordPress in the default location.
Or at least that's what it seemed like.
 
That process caters to the average website that probably isn't any good since it's completely lacking in customization and destroys all the legitimate sites that have customized it and probably depend heavily on their site working.
How could anything go wrong with that?
 
6:57 PM
Hahaha
Indeed. Apparently the client got an email about it (because the domain is registered to her after all), and she ignored it.
From GoDaddy, I mean.
And then she got a bunch of emails from people saying the website was down, of course.
 
I probably would too... I only ever get emails from my domain provider when it's "that time of the year again to make sure all your information is accurate."
 
Yeah, that's pretty reasonable. I'm just whining for the sake of whining.
 
 
1 hour later…
8:17 PM
I hate how everyone names database objects.
 
You mean they name them something other than Database?
 
I was just thinking that I'm always dissatisfied with people's choices in table names, column names, etc.
Putting "tableName_" at the beginning of every field name makes me angry when I'm typing in SSMS.
 
@jadarnel27 phpbb_zebra (user_id mediumint(8) unsigned NOT NULL DEFAULT '0', zebra_id mediumint(8) unsigned NOT NULL DEFAULT '0', friend tinyint(1) unsigned NOT NULL DEFAULT '0', foe tinyint(1) unsigned NOT NULL DEFAULT '0', PRIMARY KEY (user_id,zebra_id) )
 
8:36 PM
I don't understand how misinformed hungarian notation made it into people's database designs.
tblSTUFF
That's a TABLE? REALLY? Gee, I'm glad you made that explicit otherwise all the queries with table names where table names go would have confused me.
 
@mootinator I'm going to start doing that. I'll also name all the columns colSTUFF.
To avoid any further confusion.
 
Don't forget sp_ in front of stored procedures, especially in SQL Server. It makes it run faster.
TIL:
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A: What is your naming convention for stored procedures?

DOKHere's some clarification about the sp_ prefix issue in SQL Server. Stored procedures named with the prefix sp_ are system sprocs stored in the Master database. If you give your sproc this prefix, SQL Server looks for them in the Master database first, then the context database, thus unnecessar...

 
Sounds like they're talking about Spock.
 
8:53 PM
Amusing that the top two people on this list are fairly inactive ones who won the simple question about Git lottery: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/952/…
 
A 10k Unregistered user?
 
Actually, what that list mostly tells me is that git is popular but nobody bothers to learn it outside Google.
 
Mwuahahaha! Hacked the HTML to submit a duplicate vote.
 
9:18 PM
Why do people do this? It's so self-destructive ... stackoverflow.com/questions/19060081/what-kind-of-this-file-is
 
Build started.... Wait 20 minutes... Wait, what was I doing?
 
9:59 PM
stackoverflow.com/questions/19054455/… This person keeps putting ASP.NET MVC back in the question title. I've removed it and a 48k user has removed it, but this user doesn't seem to give up. What to do?
 
@Stijn I like how when you asked him why he rolled it back he just responded that he flagged your comment.
 
That one made me angry but I managed to keep quiet :)
 
Let's see if he flags my comment.
 
10:45 PM
what is the link again for checking how many times one reached the daily 200 reps?
 
/reputation? You should know it's not 100% accurate, though.
 
ok, thanks.
@animuson: I wonder why these few lines are not integrated on the profile?
 
11:12 PM
@animuson @allOtherMods
 
You do realize I don't have any power on Unix & Linux? I don't even have an account there...
 
oh wait, for a second I thought you were a community manager :P
never mind then
@animuson Then this one? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/198660/180276
 
11:43 PM
one can cast close votes even though he cannot review the close vote queue when banned?
 
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