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5:09 PM
just learned something he should have known long ago.
 
Is it just me or all avatars suddenly turned into unicorns?
 
Iz just you.
 
Wow, you Hungarian Internet users have massive latency problems.
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@PopularDemand lmao, or he's trying for the precognitive badge?
heh, don't delete yourself in your test app, it doesn't work so well
 
5:28 PM
@PopularDemand And I registered on SO after April 1st, 2010…
 
5:45 PM
Bad idea to put this in a CV? "Was born with a mouse in one hand and a coffee in the other, I have been building PCs from the age of 8 and and still going strong at it 11 years later, albeit with a tad more sophistication now."
 
@MylesGray Depends on your style and the style of the companies you'll be interviewing at.
 
@PopularDemand Were talking a Google Internship here....
 
@MylesGray Good luck.
 
Thank you sir - was just redoing my SO CV cause it was pretty bad
 
I think the hyperbole is permitted, but I would be wary of the length of the sentences. I might make the last clause a separate thought entirely.
 
5:47 PM
trying to make it more professional
 
Then for professionalism that's at least three big nos
 
but I dont want to come across as no fun and emotionless
 
Well that was really freaky. One of my nameservers dropped like 80% of the records on it, for no apparent reason!
shakes fist at BIND
 
LOL
I guess this week is just chock full of odd things happening to servers
 
It really is!
I should have known there was a serious problem:
3 hours ago, by The OutOfStars Exception
ARGH why is named not doing what I tell it to? >:o
 
5:49 PM
Yeah, that's usually a bad thing
 
Oh don't jinx me, my week has only just begun!
 
LOL: Let's hope it stops at 2
 
Anyone got any pointers on improving this: careers.stackoverflow.com/mylesgray
would be very much appreciated :)
 
I would start with a better av
 
OK lunchtime, bbl
 
5:54 PM
@drachenstern seriously?
 
don't start with something quite so subjective.
Yeah, seriously. you said "professional"
it looks like an emo kid trying to be happy
 
Hahaha... nice :P
 
You don't have to change it much but get a girl to frame you up for the photo
tell her what you're wanting, and let her tell you what to wear out of your closet and let her snap a good shot
may sound really dumb, but trust me
and not your mum of course ;)
 
@drachenstern s/girl/someone with good fashion sense
You'll get lots of false positives and false negatives just searching on "girl."
 
@drachenstern I can dress classy if I want I just thought programmer = semi formal doesnt really warrant a shirt
 
5:55 PM
@PopularDemand if you are going to go so far as to ask someone else to help, I would presume they would have good fashion sense or you wouldn't be asking them in the first place.
@PopularDemand true
@MylesGray this is why I refer you to find a girl and ask her.
 
Okay fair enough, I'll ask other half :)
 
You'll notice I'm responsible for both of my av pics, and they're utter shite.
> once she's up and running nice semantic HTML5 and CSS3, I'll start writing some real gold.
I would reword some of that.
 
@drachenstern okay will do
 
@drachenstern I still haven't figured out how to dress well for photos.
 
> What will the future hold? More of the same as well as some nice Server-Side (Node.js) Scripting to play with!
drop the server-side part and just focus on node.js is where you want to go
@HoLyVieR I haven't either.
 
5:58 PM
okay cool
 
also consider: php, perl, python, asp.net, those are all server-side scripting languages (they may be compilable, but they don't have to be compiled)
> I then moved onto using Notepad and creating static HTML pages at the age of about 12, CSS quickly followed and more recently JS.
we all started with notepad. Skip that part. Go straight to "I started with static HTML, then "
 
Okay, thats done too
@drachenstern I'm not too familiar with perl/python and have limited experience in asp.net and more extensive experience in php
 
so long as you grasp that they are all server-side scripting languages
 
Should I list them as interests in sort of a "to-do" list?
 
you want to focus on node.js going forward
no
 
6:01 PM
okay yeah sure
got it
 
Sorry I have really bad latency issue, I missed like 2 minutes of convo
 
you already have the tag list
@HoLyVieR then I refer you to the transcript ;)
 
More impressive would be "I started with jQuery, and moved on to static HTML. Now, whenever anyone requests one of my pages, I rapidly hand-code the desired result and pass it back to my server."
 
I get that you really like your current titles, but if you're looking to get hired you don't want to be too tied up with titles. Pick two of the three you currently have.
@PopularDemand true, but implausible.
 
@drachenstern Not if you're good enough for Google!
 
6:03 PM
@drachenstern so get rid of the WEAReCatch one
Okay that's done...
 
I really thought that the mythbusters had an implausible category. They do not.
@MylesGray no, you asked for feedback. I'm offering my subjective feedback. These are not golden rules.
 
@drachenstern They don't its Busted, Plausible and Confirmed
Oh I understand, I was on the edge about that myself anyway
 
@MylesGray yes I confirmed that when I was looking for signs ;)
 
I voted to close stackoverflow.com/questions/5236303/… but immediately changed my mind. Is it too late to remove my vote?
 
6:05 PM
@TomalakGeretkal Yes.
 
@PopularDemand D'oh.
 
@TomalakGeretkal If you feel strongly about it, you can leave a comment saying "I voted to close this because of X, but I was wrong."
 
@drachenstern - I think found the issue with the (null) alert.
 
@Moshe congrats
 
@drachenstern thank you very much for your help!
 
6:07 PM
It was a memory issue.
 
Ill get a new av when I get time :)
 
@TomalakGeretkal you can always vote to reopen
@Moshe they usually are
@MylesGray yep. A few more thoughts. You're 19 right? How much writing have you done?
How much reading?
 
See using longLongs seems to have caused iOS to not have enough memory to pull the localized string from the strings file. So I'm using longs now.
 
Okie doke cheers guys
 
@drachenstern Writing? Just what it on my blog really, reading? A LOT I live off CSS/HTML and JS books
 
6:08 PM
There's a certain flair to writing that comes after reading a lot and trying to write a lot. Have a few (more than 2) girls read those three personal paragraphs and analyze for style. Have a few of us here re-read the old and new proposals side-by-side (you do have a personal website right?) so we can give further feedback.
I know I keep referring you to girls, and there's a reason. (two reasons)
 
@drachenstern Two reasons... style and good at making big wordy deals out of things? :D
 
@drachenstern - We should start calling you Professor Brand. You seem to be teaching us 19 year olds, hehe.
 
This is all subjective and personal experience. It has not shown me wrong.
1) most office staff seem to be girls. Especially the ones doing the manual filtering work for HR staffs.
2) They're better than we are 90% of the time.
I mean, 190% of the time obviously ;)
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@Moshe wait till I get my PhD and start teaching. ;)
 
@drachenstern Okay, Mr. Brand, I will. When the time comes, would you prefer Doctor or Professor, Sir?
 
lmao
that's still years off
just messer should be fine
 
6:11 PM
lol hehe
 
@drachenstern I'll get the old and new proposals up soon (just heading off to uni now)
 
@Fosco - You still around? I thought I noticed you earlier.
 
@MylesGray yup yup. Like I say. Let a few girls read it and make annotations. You always have time to get it right when you're looking for a new job.
And when you let them read it give them printed paper double spaced in a nice font. Leave them room to write.
 
Thanks again for the help man I really appreciate it! :)
I will do
 
I'll skip telling you to explain why you're asking for help ;)
 
6:13 PM
:P
 
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
Have a good day in class there Myles
 
@drachenstern not class :)
Just driving down, class is tomorrow
 
@MylesGray I thought you said uni
 
I live an hour from my uni house
 
6:15 PM
ooooh, silly europeans
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haha
 
Later guys
 
I used to live about 40 minutes from my Uni, and I just drove it everyday.
 
I gotta hit the road too, be back soon.
@drachenstern - Hopefully I'll get a new build out soon. @Fosco - If you read this, please install the update.
 
6:16 PM
I'll likely never understand Euro mentalities. Even if I do live less than one football (the Euro kind of football) fieldlength from the office.
@Moshe just do it right ;)
doesn't have to be right now
 
That's good.
> "Right" isn't necessarily right now.
> - paraphrased from quote by @drachenstern
Bye!
 
@drachenstern By the way I am looking into becoming a Chome tester/contributor
would that help on the CV at all?
 
For google yes, it shows that you are interested in their product
 
I have a fair bit of .Net experience but nothing in cocoa/C as of yet
 
@MylesGray at first I was gonna say: only because you're looking to work at Google. And then I considered: I wouldn't actually put it until you have it, and then I would make it part of the standard bit.
@HoLyVieR bah, everyone is interested in their product, even Microsoft.
I presume there's a process of getting accepted?
 
6:19 PM
@drachenstern was that @ me?
 
So wait until you're accepted, then put it on there. It's kind of like my A+ certification. I have one from pre-2000 but I still put it.
@MylesGray yes, the ones that weren't @'ed were to you.
 
By wait until im accepted as in.. for interview?
 
@drachenstern If you do put it there, though... make sure you can discuss it intelligently when they bring it up.
 
Oh wait, sorry misunderstood
accepted as a contib - of course
okay anyway I best hit the road
thanks again, later all
 
This is wierd tough, I'm 19 too, but I'm starting university next year.
 
6:28 PM
Sent my laptop to HP to have its keyboard replaced. Got it back 4 work days later. Cool, but they went the extra mile and used a recovery CD
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\o/
 
@HoLyVieR You're Canadian, aren't you?
 
I guess it's just how the education system works here.
@PopularDemand yes
 
@HoLyVieR Yeah, I don't know of anywhere else they have CEGEP.
 
@PopularDemand ya and I'm not even sure there's CEGEP outside of the province of Quebec
 
Though someone I graduated high school with had to do another year of high school when he moved to the UK.
 
6:32 PM
@badpssockpuppet oh fuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
Last Day to Vote: @Google barely winning over @DuckDuckGo for Best Search Engine #rcawards http://t.co/jEgnCHx
 
@PopularDemand that probably explain the difference, but CEGEP degree are at least 2 years
 
@HoLyVieR You also shorten high school and university to compensate, though. I knew about uni but not HS.
Bah, I don't know.
i18n is hard. Let's go shopping, or summat.
 
@badpssockpuppet so how far back did they set you? Did you have any sort of backup to be usable?
@PopularDemand indeed.
 
@drachenstern I kinda prepared for it and backed up all data.
However, I couldn't back up, say, the drivers.
 
6:36 PM
@badpssockpuppet whew so really you're just hosed on four days of reinstalls and the like
 
So I went from Win7 + Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 3 to WinVista
my objective for today is getting LyX and Dropbox to work on Windows 7; even that'll be a shitton of work.
 
@badpssockpuppet Good luck. Drivers never seem to work right when you're reinstalling... well, when I'm reinstalling.
 
@PopularDemand It's really amazing how much does Ubuntu wtfbbqroflmaoextrasuperultraDOMINATE Windows when it comes to that.
 
@badpssockpuppet Maybe I should try Linux again.
 
Oh, Win7 did pick up my wifi.
 
6:52 PM
@badpssockpuppet um, my wife and sister-n-law got dropbox working with no problem yesterday (or sometime in the past week) and I never knew they were trying. Don't make it too complicated
@badpssockpuppet it's getting better at device support (Win7)
 
@drachenstern It's not as much "getting Dropbox" working, it's "getting Dropbox and everything required to make it work, working"
 
interesting. Let me know which part was troublesome last time
ok, they're dropping our network again today, so I'm gonna take this opportunity to go get lunch
 
God dammit!
sighs
 
7:09 PM
@TimStone Meeting moved again? ;)
 
Well, that was earlier, I just went back to sleep ;)
 
But now it's been moved again, and then someone else decides to call me before the meeting.
 
lol that sucks
 
I wanted to wait until the meeting to go over this so someone else could explain the issues. :P
 
7:11 PM
So much for being efficient.
 
This "DuckDuckGo" thing might be onto something.
 
@PopularDemand ain't DuckDuckGo just a clone of Google without the redirect tracking URL ?
 
@HoLyVieR Well, there's no such thing as a clone of Google.
 
grrr....effing-a Gnome...when I open a window, I want it to show up top of other windows...
 
@PopularDemand I mean they use Google result ?
 
7:16 PM
@GeorgeMarian I just get impatient when I get caught off guard, heh :P
 
@TimStone Heh, impatient? Yeah, I can see that. I don't like it either. I definitely prefer being able to prepare.
 
@HoLyVieR If so, they're not copying the order of the results over from Google.
(Based on searching both sites for the term "wireless g.")
 
@GeorgeMarian Yeah, having to explain why the data model needs to be corrected and what not.
 
@TimStone I thought you were prepared for that.
 
I was prepared to mention the issue and let someone else explain why there was a problem. ;)
 
7:24 PM
@issue Hi!
 
@TimStone Ah, lol. Fair enough.
 
Unsurprisingly, I take a lazy approach to management.
 
@TimStone Is it anything like SO's lazy approach to deletion? "Nothing's on fire? Management accomplished!"
 
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 19 secs ago, by Nyuszika7H
IE 1.5? Who uses such old browsers these days?
 
@PopularDemand Hahah
 
7:31 PM
@Nyuszika7H What, no IE 11 preview?
 
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 48 secs ago, by yc
It's mostly a novelty item. Nothing really works. I think its with 1.5, if a site tries to set cookies, you get a manual notification and it asks you if you want to allow them to be set.
 
@Nyuszika7H If some does time travel from back then, they will be sure to find the same browser they used back then. :p
I got 3 day left on my intership and im done with everything that had to be done during the intership. I'm kindda bored atm.
Any suggestion ?
 
@HoLyVieR Implement a bonus feature of some kind.
 
Crap, I hate when I accidentally flag legimate things.
That link is too easy to hit :/
 
@TimStone I support flagging of crap.
However, I hate when you accidentally flag good content.
 
7:45 PM
:P
Or I guess it was legitimate, I didn't get a chance to read it.
 
Bucking for a flag weight of 25, eh?
 
OK I need to flag some more stuff, it's all the rage these days apparently
 
Apparently.
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Perhaps I should restrict the hallway to only people who have flag weight of 500 on at least one site.
 
Whew, two things that needed flags.
 
@PopularDemand the thing is pretty everything is done, even my supervisor is starting to run out of job.
 
Also, I totally want to make falafel after that show last night...
 
@HoLyVieR Then, I dunno, find some kind of online chatroom to waste 20 hours in (assuming an eight hour workday and that today is half over).
 
@TimStone which show?
 
I dunno, @RebeccaChernoff mentioned that The Best Thing I Ever Ate: Bacon was on last night, so I flipped over to the Food Channel and started watching stuff.
 
7:51 PM
@PopularDemand I guess MSO chat is the right place then :p
 
@TimStone If @RebeccaChernoff told you to jump off of a bridge....
 
If @RebeccaChernoff wanted you to jump off a bridge, you'd have already jumped
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winning
 
@populardemand, am I still locked out of the hallway?
 
@Moshe Why don't you go and check it yourself?
 
7:54 PM
@PopularDemand ....Bacon!
 
The hallway is overrated @Moshe
Stick with this room :-)
 
@ircmaxell ??
 
@TimStone There's bacon at the end of the hall over there, past the dramatically swinging axes, slick-walled spike pits and wall-mounted flamethrowers.
 
@MylesGray If you don't get the reference, don't bother...
 
@MylesGray welcome back
 
7:59 PM
@HoLyVieR aloha sir, how do?
 
@PopularDemand Sounds delicious.
 
@TimStone Fun fact: the bacon was prepared by the axes and flamethrowers, and the liquid fat was used to coat the pit walls.
 
@PopularDemand it is but a small price to pay...
 
So, y'know... go for it.
 
@MylesGray Good, but a bit bored
 
8:04 PM
@HoLyVieR any reason?
 
@MylesGray intership finishing soon and there's practically no job left to do.
 
Where were you working if you dont mind my asking?
 
@PopularDemand Hmm, maybe I better send Jin instead.
I don't want to get greasy.
 
@MylesGray some small company, we are only 2 developpers (me and a consultant).
 
Oh okay, freelancing?
 
8:11 PM
@TimStone Are you mad? Who'll design the April Fool's page? balpha?
 
@MylesGray Well it's an intership so I'm working in their office and my supervisor is working there too.
 
oh okay cool cool :)
 
I don't think my school would accept that I do intership work from home :p
 
I've applied to just about everywhere with webdesign on here: graduateland.com
Is it bad to ask for upvotes just to get a new badge :P
 
8:27 PM
@MylesGray yes
 
ends train of thought
 
8:38 PM
Where the hell is @TheOutOfStarsException
 
@PopularDemand We'll just use the mobile theme (Just kidding :P)
 
@PopularDemand Watcha talkin bout??? I'm a worldclass webdesigner! I've read Don't make me think!
 
@balpha that sounds so familiar. Is that a book or a blog?
 
@balpha But do you have Rocket Surgery Made Easy?
 
@TimStone I said "world class", not "elite"
 
8:44 PM
Ah, I take it you missed that Amazon sale then.
 
I set my goals modestly
 
apparently I did
or was that not at me? @TimStone
 
It was at @balpha, but :P
 
@balpha yes, I found it on google.
<ctrl><up><r> is so much faster
 
8:46 PM
@drachenstern Not as fast as <ctrl><up><right>, noob
 
@MichaelMrozek that's funny, I do most of my typing from the home rows, not from the arrow keys. That r is like right under my left index finger, pretty damned handy considering I've used 10 in this post alone.
 
@drachenstern Well, the right arrow is right by your finger too, since you just moved it there to press the up arrow :)
 
@MichaelMrozek wasd or gtfo :p
 
@drachenstern qwerty fail.
 
esdf is vastly superior to wasd. wasd needs to die
@RebeccaChernoff You define qwerty fail :P
 
8:49 PM
@RebeccaChernoff er, joke fail?
@MichaelMrozek that may be true
 
@drachenstern dvorak > qwerty. wasd in the keyboard layout is ,aoe
 
,aoe is just silly
(.oeu is not better)
 
and if I typed out wasd, I'd be using the qwerty keys <a;h
 
@RebeccaChernoff oh I hadn't begun to forget in the least about your backwardsways but the joke is WASD, not so much the actual characters mapped to their position on the board, much as Mrozek pointed out esdf is usually more superior anyways.
 
yes yes but that's all irrelevant to me going on about how dvorak is better than qwerty ^__^
 
8:52 PM
I need an Optimus keyboard so I can have a script run every night that moves all the keys around to random locations. Over time I'll gain the ability to glance at a keyboard in an arbitrary configuration and immediately be able to use it at full speed
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yes, your ranting on like a crazy person about this dvorak thingadongdong.
 
@RebeccaChernoff ah, ack.
 
@drachenstern busy, crazy work. What's up?
 
So none of this has answered my real question: where the hell is @TheOutOfStarsException and his apparent ESP for coming up while I was typing this.
I skyped you, I think you just answered me
 
I just did yes, reading now
 
8:55 PM
 
@MichaelMrozek well there was something specifically proprietary in what I had to say
you see I resorted to here first to get his attention
 
@drachenstern Tell it to @balpha. Assuming he ever speaks to you again
 
Well I did reply to the message in reference. We'll see if @balpha does talk to me ever again.
 
Win7 install, reboot 4, after installing all drivers etc.: at login I'm greeted immediately with "Please restart your computer to apply changes"
:|
(Yes, I rebooted)
 
@MichaelMrozek who's this "drachenstern" person you seem to be speaking to?
 
8:59 PM
@balpha Some irrelevant Skype user. I hear he hangs out on Quora too, when he's not busy killing kittens
 

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