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1:00 PM
@badpssockpuppet Wait, you share an IP address with Community? bot alert! bot alert!
 
Ah hahh :P
 
@YiJiang Actually, pretty much everybody I checked with some amount of activity does.
 
oak?
Well.. unless you have a leased line
 
@MylesGray Oak lives in a different country altogether...
 
@badpssockpuppet Eh, how does that happen?
 
1:01 PM
@YiJiang No idea.
I guess Community has "Impersonate User" and 5 more moderator powers
(poke poke nudge nudge @TimStone)
 
pins new Deputy badge on shirt
shows pistol fingers
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Huh, global login now works again in the latest Firefox 4 nightly again
 
@Barry I got my 500 weight but still (5 hours later) received the badge
 
@MylesGray It took me more than 24 hours I think
 
Maybe it's not till all my flags are cleared
 
1:10 PM
Less than an hour for me....
 
yet another reason for my proposal 8-)
Wahoo! got it now :)
 
Sounds like this will be fun...
 
@Barry, I'm guessing they don't mean ALL cookies...
 
Welcome @SrinivasReddyThatiparthy, meet The Tavern! Everyone, this is @SrinivasReddyThatiparthy
 
@Barry dont mess with that guy.. hes serious
 
1:18 PM
@MylesGray LOL
 
@Benjol Not entirely sure
 
It's the law man.. seriously... dont mess with him he'll lock your ass up
 
@MylesGray But I am a Deputy now - surely I can get away with it? right?
 
@Barry I'm a Deputy now too... Even you and I are not safe
 
@MylesGray Beware of... the Cookie Monster!!!
 
1:20 PM
That idiot that wrote the article gave away either his username or password for ebay:
 
@MylesGray I think it's just a stock photo
 
@MylesGray uh... no.
 
Hmm... maybe but maybe not ;)
 
First off I don't think session information would be stored as plaintext in a cookie anyway
Also... the password in a plaintext cookie? What drugs are you on? :P
Finally, the value column is not pictured.
Those are just cookie names.
 
1:23 PM
@badpssockpuppet Whats wrong with passwords in cookies??
JOKE!!
 
@badpssockpuppet Drugs? No man, Marconi Cheese :)
 
haha!
 
@MylesGray I have unhealthy doses of Grana Padano and/or Parmigiano Reggiano on a daily basis :P
 
Ah... Indexed
 
1:25 PM
@badpssockpuppet I did make it myself though.. student + cooking anything but cornflakes = death
 
@MylesGray Not even a sammich?
 
Morning @The!
Which masterpiece are you referring to?
 
@Pekka How goes?
12 hours ago, by drachenstern
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Busy busy, but well!
The Cologne carnival is in full bloom... Impossible to ignore, even with closed windows
 
@YiJiang sammiches are especially dangerous - I wouldnt risk making one, too much risk of a house fire
 
1:29 PM
The one time in the year when everyone goes completely nuts
 
12 hours ago, by The OutOfStars Exception
Our benevolent dictator celebrates another crushing victory:
 
@TheOutOfStarsException ah, that one! Yeah that was nice
I prefer to go nuts all the time, but not during carnival time
I am an inverse Colognian.
 
@Pekka good ethos, who's to say theyre not all wrong and your right?
 
@MylesGray exactly! :)
I am probably the only person in a two-mile radius who is sober
 
Much more fun in here than the Javascript room... JS room is so serious
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1:31 PM
@Pekka LOL. This sounds interseting, it's a celebration based around the springtime blooming of the Cologne I assume?
 
Which of course is an exaggeration, but that's what it sounds like outside.
 
Mis edited double fail
 
@TheOutOfStarsException yeah! I don't know the historical background to be honest though
 
Similar to the Azalea Festival here in NC
 
But it seems to be fairly international, the spanish are celebrating the same thing
All of catholic europe, apparently
 
1:32 PM
Overview The [http://www.ncazaleafestival.org/default.aspx North Carolina Azalea Festival] takes place every year in the city of Wilmington, North Carolina. The Festival is a non-civic organization and is highly sponsored by the local community. It celebrates local art, the floral gardens, and the history of Wilmington. The festival lasts for five days and takes place in the beginning of April. Attendance to the festival has grown to reach over 300,000 in 2008. The Azalea Festival has become an event many travel to for vacation which has boosted Wilmington's local economy. Such businesses...
 
@Pekka Im in Ireland (you know what thats like) and nothings going on here
 
@MylesGray of course! This is where the cool kids are :-)
 
we wait for St. Patricks day to kick off then raise hell
 
@TheOutOfStarsException nice!!
@MylesGray ah, interesting!
 
Nevermind.. again :P
 
1:33 PM
@MylesGray Interestingly, Ireland is not on the list
Carnival is a festive season which occurs immediately before Lent; the main events are usually during February. Carnival typically involves a public celebration or parade combining some elements of a circus, mask and public street party. People often dress up or masquerade during the celebrations, which mark an overturning of daily life. Carnival is a festival traditionally held in Roman Catholic and, to a lesser extent, Eastern Orthodox societies. Protestant areas usually do not have carnival celebrations or have modified traditions, such as the Danish Carnival or other Shrove Tuesday...
 
@MylesGray I am not!
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Epic fail on my behalf
Thats okay though, my dosage of fail has been used up for today...
 
@MylesGray ahh, makes sense! That is where the Irish spend all their saved-up energy from the winter :)
 
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@Pekka must be a continental thing
It really has just descended into an excuse to get blocked and wear stupid green hats
 
1:35 PM
@MylesGray isn't it a pre-lent thing? Like Shrove Tuesday?
Shrove Tuesday is a term used in English-speaking countries, especially the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, and parts of the United States for the day preceding Ash Wednesday, the first day of the season of fasting and prayer called Lent. The word shrove is the past participle of the English verb to shrive, which means to obtain absolution for one's sins by way of confession and doing penance. During the week before Lent, sometimes called Shrovetide in English, Christians were expected to go to confession in preparation for the penitential season of turning ...
 
@Benjol nope lent starts tomorrow
 
@Benjol Is that pancakes I see?
 
Today is Shrove Tuesday, People just get wrecked in the middle of lent (very irsih)
 
@YiJiang yup AKA pancake day
 
@YiJiang Yup, the idea is you use all your "bad" foods before lent so you wont be tempted
Sugar, flour, eggs etc
 
1:37 PM
@MylesGray that's the point, Shrove Tuesday = Carnaval = Mardi Gras = making the most of all the things you won't be allowed during lent (I think)
 
Oh gosh.. goes off to create waffles day
 
@Benjol ah thats what it is!
Very interesting I never knew that
 
Then again, many traditional Chinese festivals are associated with foods
Still, nothing like a day dedicated to sweet confectionery!
 
> Carnival is an important celebration in Catholic European nations. In the United Kingdom and Ireland, the week before Ash Wednesday is called "shrovetide", ending on Shrove Tuesday. It has its popular celebratory aspects as well. Pancakes are a traditional food. Pancakes and related fried breads or pastries made with sugar, fat and eggs are also traditionally consumed at this time in many parts of Latin America and the Caribbean.
from wikipedia on Mardi Gras: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mardi_Gras
 
Cool, thats very interesting, not only is it more fun than JS room in here it is also more educational :D
 
1:43 PM
If any one's bored, you can break your teeth on this puzzle: stackoverflow.com/questions/4075289/race-car-puzzle
 
@Benjol Flagged to migrate to Maths
 
@badpssockpuppet ooh, meany
 
I don't have 3k rep on SO. Yet...
 
Answer the question and you'll get a few more :)
 
Hmm... must.. have.. ability.. to.. kill... peoples.. hopes... and... close... question
I may as well ask in here... I made this: mutanttractor.github.com/StackOverflow-Android-Dashboard and I am getting REALLY weird pulls from the SO API
Like It may update and there are questions that are maybe 2mins old, then refreshes a minute later and then the new ones disappear and the newest might be 20mins-1 hour old
The behaviour is completely random, but I use a desktop app (Newt) that sends me notifications even if the question is <30seconds old
I don't see how they can do that with that API and I can't do the same?
Also.. dont look at it in Firefox - Chrome is the best in this prototyping phase ;)
 
1:58 PM
dunno, sorry :(
 
2:10 PM
is seeing how well Veritas can roll tape...
3 minutes and counting for a single 600mb file restore (I'm not expecting it to be done anytime soon)
Holy Cr@p! 8 minutes to restore from tape
that's not bad at all
 
Got your table back @ircmaxell?
 
well, repairing it now
 
@ircmaxell condescending voice what did you doooooo
 
ARGH why is named not doing what I tell it to? >:o
 
2:21 PM
@MylesGray: mysql lost a data file last night
 
Oh dear :/
 
@TheOutOfStarsException: I think I figured out what happened too.
 
Awful clumsy of mysql... almost think that was human error :P
 
Looking at the logs, I think what happened was MySQL was using the table when the backup process came along. Shadow copy prevented a change in the middle of a written row, which caused the table to crash
 
@ircmaxell do tell!
ahhhhh
that makes sense, I think
 
2:23 PM
then, when I tried to restore, Shadow copy still had the file locked, so when it went to move the temporary file back over it, the FS nuked the file, but it couldn't overwrite it since the file was still locked
 
Should the backup not be deferred if there is a write going on?
 
so it was deleted once shadow copy unlocked the file, and mysql got rid of the tmp table since it issued the mv command
@MylesGray: it should be transparent, at least that's what ShadowCopy is supposed to do
Woot!
 
Strange...
 
mysql> REPAIR TABLE individuals_full;
| Table                | Op     | Msg_type | msg_text   |
| npi.individuals_full | repair | warning  | Number of rows changed from 0 to 2432709 |
| npi.individuals_full | repair | status   | OK |
2 rows in set (3 min 12.51 sec)
Still really weird that it happened, but I guess it's a 1 in a trillion chance of happening (since what's the chance MySQL was writing to the exact block that ShadowCopy had locked (which lasts for a fraction of a second).
 
wow.. 2.4m rows :P
 
2:31 PM
I just voted to close a question as a duplicate
is it worth flagging it for the moderators too?
 
Hi
 
Hmmm, it seems like the copyright of the short story which The Adjustment Bureau was based off has expired
 
Codero is down :(
 
@YiJiang thats a bad thing?
 
@MylesGray No, it's good. In fact, I'm reading the short story right now
The movie is of course only very loosely based off the story
 
2:45 PM
@YiJiang Did you like Inception too? I found it very good, and with what the Bourne movies were onto this movie looks like a winner
 
@LoïcWolff I wouldn't unless it's a low quality question as well
 
@MylesGray To be honest, I don't usually go to the movies. I am, however, a fan of Phlip K. Dick
 
Hahahahahaha! Welcome to Germany
A massive carnival parade streams through the street, thousands of people, spraying around tons and tons of litter... but directly behind them, a fleet of street cleaners, cleaning machines and garbage trucks, making the roads look *more* immaculate than before the parade
but one has to admit, it gets the job done
 
nice
 
Anyway, I grabbed a copy of the text from a link in the Wikipedia article and cleaned it up, then slapped a nice stylesheet on it to make it readable: dl.dropbox.com/u/1722364/Adjustment/adjustment.html
 
3:00 PM
Thats impressive
YES!! Sorted the polling issue
:D
 
The flags that have been coming in on SO, especially those that dig up problems on very old posts have been fantastic folks :)
 
It looks like my three most recent question have been downticked for no reason that I can see. I suspect it might be by the same person who is angry over my downticking a snarky and rude reply they made. Is there a way to determine who is down ticking my questions?
 
@webworm if they continue the chain-voting mechanism will negate the votes
 
@webworm Just flag one of the questions in question (no pun intended) and ask for moderators to investigate suspicious votes
@MylesGray True, but it is nice when we can catch this 'in the act'
 
Is there a way I can determine who is doing the downticking? I want to make sure it is a single person before bothering the mods with it.
 
3:05 PM
@webworm I am a moderator, go ahead, bother me :)
 
OK .. will do. Thanks
 
@TimPost So you guys can see who votes on what?
 
@MylesGray No, but we can look at patterns.
 
there are some rules.
with great power comes great responsibility, or something.
 
I have made one downtick and my username showed right up with it
 
3:07 PM
Fixed at long last :)
 
Hello 6 new bugtickets overnight for things that I totally did not find on my own :\
 
We can't see who voted for what , but we can see when an abnormal patterns
 
@drachenstern: I figured out what happened last night
 
@ircmaxell and?
 
46 mins ago, by ircmaxell
Looking at the logs, I think what happened was MySQL was using the table when the backup process came along. Shadow copy prevented a change in the middle of a written row, which caused the table to crash
 
3:09 PM
I flagged one of the questions. Thank you for the help.
 
45 mins ago, by ircmaxell
then, when I tried to restore, Shadow copy still had the file locked, so when it went to move the temporary file back over it, the FS nuked the file, but it couldn't overwrite it since the file was still locked
 
"shadow copy"! I knew something like that had to be happening.
 
@webworm It's been handled
 
45 mins ago, by ircmaxell
so it was deleted once shadow copy unlocked the file, and mysql got rid of the tmp table since it issued the mv command
 
@webworm The system should (soon) restore those votes
 
3:10 PM
13 hours ago, by drachenstern
NTFS: does it have the "recover previous versions" turned on by chance?
 
I don't think so
 
"shadow copy" is what I was thinking of, I think. The two services are so similar that I can never remember which one I mean
if it's what I'm thinking of
I need to go ask in CommsRoom I think to know for sure
 
If you suspect something 'fishy' - don't hesitate to flag for moderator attention. We don't dismiss flags asking for us to look into something odd as invalid, even if there isn't anything odd.
 
Shadow Copy should be creating a point-in-time snapshot
recover is just journaling the data...
 
@Tim .. Can you tell me if it was the same person doing all the down-ticks? I am not looking for a name or anything. I just want to make sure my questions are being asked properly.
 
3:13 PM
@webworm downvotes are anonymous to all but the devs, and they don't like to go looking for data like that
the point is to keep things anony
in The Comms Room on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by drachenstern
does the "shadow copy" service provide for the ability on NTFS based systems to right click and choose properties -> restore previous version? Is that the service that provides that facility?
in The Comms Room on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 28 secs ago, by Matthew Steeples
@drachenstern Yes it is
 
@webworm I really can't say anything other than it's been handled.
 
OK understood. Thank you for your help.
 
@webworm A quick look through your posts, however shows that you're doing just fine.
 
Hrm...
that's odd...
 
Sure would be nice if people would leave feedback as to why something was down-ticked.
That way I could change whatever the problem is
 
3:16 PM
fair enough
 
@webworm Also note that multiple downvotes on one question are from multiple people. If one person were to downvote n (in this case I refuse to divulge the number for n) of your posts at one time, then there is a mechanism to revert all the downvotes as one group. It's an anti-rampage feature. However, if they downvote you methodically and very slowly over time, then it can't be stopped. Just FYI.
 
@webworm In an ideal world it would be.
 
Maybe it should be made so your HAVE to leave a comment to down-vote
so it doesn't become a hit and run activity
 
then downvotes wouldn't be anonymous
 
If these were all made by a single person then I probably opened up myself by leaving the very feedback I requested. Catch 22 I guess.
 
3:18 PM
@MylesGray That has been raised about a hundred times
 
@Fosco but it would be a self-solving problem
if someone downvotes out of spite then you will know who they are, downvotes for no reason can then be flagged
 
@webworm It is not unreasonable to expect a degree of maturity from a site that boasts an extremely high percentage of professionals as users. You just happened to catch an exception early on.
 
if you downvote them in turn then you will be flagged if it is not for a vlaid reason
 
@webworm Just keep being civil and helpful. People who have temper tantrums like that are exceptions.
 
why not require the same for upvotes then? :)
it just wouldn't work... counter to the spirit of the site I think.
 
3:20 PM
I usually comment either way when voting
 
Wow, I like hardly ever comment on upvotes aside from meta
I mean, it's rare on meta too, but still
 
I might suggest that instead of having to leave a username, that users be required to leave feedback as to why. This would be helpful to users such as myself, who are trying to learn from mistakes, while at the same time protecting one from "rampage" attacks. Just a suggestion.
 
Down votes are 'cruft predators' .. if we make it difficult for the predators, the cruft will thrive and multiply.
 
In any case I am VERY impressed by the quick response by the mods and the fact that they actually looked into my issue. Thank you so much. A STARK contrast to the treatment received on IRC.
 
@YiJiang So tempted to edit your "nomination post"....
But thank you very much!
 
3:22 PM
@webworm Are you referring to #stackoverflow on freenode?
 
No ... not at all! just many of the IRC channels I go to looking to ask questions.
 
@balpha I'm setting up a telnet BBS as an 'unofficial' hangout over the weekend
 
I use Freenode ... channels for Android ROM mods and such. Very "venomous" folks. Makes one hesitant to ask questions.
 
lemme check if I still have a modem around somewhere...
I don't think so...
 
So @webworm here's the thing: There's only about 600,000 active users on SO, and if we assume that 0.1% are actively trying to be a douche during the day (that's 1 in 1000 people, more than I see in a week visually most weeks) ~ that's still 600 users in any one day trying to be a dick. If that's broken down by the hour, then that's 25 per hour. With only about 100 questions being asked every hour on average (IIRC) that means that they have a 1 in 4 chance of getting to any particular item.
@webworm I mean, I really think it's more like 0.01% are bad apples (1 in 10000), but it only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch (which makes a lot more sense when you've ever worked with apples IRL)
 
3:25 PM
@webworm Most of us [SO members and mods] are professionals who just really enjoy participating
 
The people who bake ROMs are not usually of the highest quality caliber.
 
@drachenstern But what about passive douches? I was married to one of those, it didn't end well.
 
@TimPost so many ways to split that up in response.
 
Well I really appreciate all your work and help folks. I have learned a tremendous amount from SO and I agree 100%, by far most replies have been very helpful.
@drachenstern - I suspect you are correct sir.
@drachenstern @TimPost - Thanks again for all your help
 
There's always people who aren't content to just make use of the system. But, they are (as @drachenstern noted) quite rare
 
3:28 PM
@TimPost I wanted to star that but decided against it :P
 
Wanted to star what?
In here the rules are slightly more grey, so you can star it, we won't complain.
Notice I somehow got pinned for an image ;) (context goes a long way in here)
 
Who needs Slashdot when we have 5,193 gloriously out of context stars to read?
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Who needs slashdot when they've gone and horribly broken the system over there
I can't read any comments hardly at all, and my slashboxes self-destruct
 
@TimPost got the ping but missed it
 
Used to be my goto site, I've been resisting the reddit urge as much as possible, but it's slowly taking over
oh wow cslacker.com/images/funny/signs/billboards/… that'll make you go hmmmmm
 
3:34 PM
I have an interesting blend in my reader, but I hardly find time to really sit down and go through it lately.
I promised myself I'd start playing with Mono this week, fat chance of that happening.
 
@TimPost yeah that's how it is with me and twitter. I follow a lot of technews stuff, but finding the time is tricky
I have made myself similar promises. So long as I get things done for work and the house gets more and more organized, I'm happy enough
I may have my nephew help me organize my SC:TCG collection some this weekend, he's asked about playing it and learning it.
 
My new schedule is helping a bit, I'm at work by 4:00 AM and off by noon, which gives me a few hours to play while my brain is still energetic enough to absorb stuff
 
why at 4?
 
Except days like today, where I end up working 16 hours to get a release out
 
@TimPost Well, 3000 of them are for "(:" and "oy..." so that won't take as long as you think.
 
3:37 PM
@drachenstern It fits the child care problem, puts me on-line when my US team mates are wrapping up and we can do a hand off and puts me in sync with my wife
As an added bonus, we have a bakery downstairs that opens at 5, so getting fresh stuff for breakfast rocks :)
 
Well that's good. Where do you work if I may ask?
@PopularDemand Oy
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@PopularDemand (:
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tempts the fates
 
@drachenstern I work for Enzu, a web host / cloud provider
 
@TimPost cool
 
Any suggestions on a chat room where I could asp peoples opinions on futures in development? Would this room be good?
Just looking for opinions of professional developers
 
3:42 PM
What sort of questions do you want to "asp"? :p ~ Depending on the topic and the frequency of the questions, I might tell you here or the SO tavern.
 
Perhaps I should just ask and see what happens :) ... (typing question now)
 
@TimPost let's get a feel for his line of questioning ;)
 
Futures in development are trading slightly lower than Natural Gas at about $3.56/MMBTU
 
@drachenstern Heh, I read @webworm's message as though "ask" was missing and the question was actually about "asp" rooms.
 
3:46 PM
@mootinator I tend to devalue the raw cost of oil over the cost of manpower, so I tend to value development higher than the market in general ;)
 
Well .. here goes. My overall question .. "What do people think the future is for mobile development?" I am a web developer with my hands in various areas .. ASP.NET, C#, SQL Server, Compact Framework. Sort of a "Jack of all trades and master of none". That is sort of the problem.
 
@drachenstern I was trying to account for that. I have no idea how much MMBTU development generates, I just assumed it was a lot lower than gas.
 
In my current job so many new skills are passing me by. MVC, LINQ, iOS, Android Development
 
Wow, so you're way far away from actual questions, you just want to get an idea for where to focus.
@webworm that's why we have hobbies
@mootinator depends on the diet I suppose ;)
 
I have the opportunity to take a year off (my wife has job oppourtunity) and I could stay home and focus on bringing skills in .NET back up as well as adding iOS and Android (bringing Java skills back up).
 
3:51 PM
@drachenstern Either way my logic was completely inverted there. O_o.
 
I was just wondering what other developers think of the development market in the future. Specifically Mobile Development .. for tablets (iOS, Android, Windows Phone 7).
 
@mootinator or mine was
I can tell you now that there is a bit of a split field there. The real question becomes one of requirements. If you don't need things like the compass or accelerometer, then most people would agree that sticking to a web-oriented approach will likely have higher payoffs. How are you with javascript?
 
My JavaScript is OK. I have been using jQuery more and more. Became scared of JavaScript back before jQuery. Trying to do AJAX with raw JavaScript.
 
oy!
@webworm I started learning vanilla JS, too; first I'm doing some animations. jsfiddle.net/Nyuszika7H/stGcj/7
 
I remember trying to build web controls using scriptaculous (sp??) and AJAX using XMLHTTP
But it seems that jQuery has just removed so much of the headache
 
3:54 PM
@webworm yep that's right…
If IE would follow the standards, it would be much easier…
It's not enough to make a function like this:
 
I invented fake ajax using a hidden iframe! Then I discovered other people were already doing it and I should really use Google more.
 
@mootinator you should check Socket.IO too
 
function addEvent(obj, type, fn, useCapture) {
    if (window.addEventListener) {
        obj.addEventListener(type, fn, useCapture);
    } else if (window.attachEvent) {
        obj.attachEvent('on' + type, fn);
    } else {
        // fall back to traditional event handling (onclick etc.)
    }
}
 
there's a ton of alternative way to do Asynchronous communication with the server
 
In attachEvent, this doesn't refer to the element, but it refers to the window!
So it's more headache to make this work in IE :/
 
4:00 PM
Socket.IO pretty much uses them all
 
@HoLyVieR Nice...
 
@Nyuszika7H in all browser this == window when you're doing a direct reference to the function
 
@HoLyVieR In addEventListener, this refers to the element, not window.
 
Good $.timeOfDayInYourTimeZone();
 
@Nyuszika7H jsfiddle.net/Jc9w2
@Nyuszika7H Is it documented that addEventListener set this to the element ?
@Nyuszika7H Well to solve that problem you can always bind the this value on the function too.
 
4:08 PM
@HoLyVieR yep, I know :)
 
With something a bit like what prototype does with the bind method.
 
in Programmers on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by dr Hannibal Lecter
Waterfall is great untill it falls :P
 
Chrome suddenly crashes if I try to rearrange tabs. I guess I should stop doing that
 
@MichaelMrozek It has OCD, obviously
 
@MichaelMrozek that's so odd.
 
4:19 PM
@MichaelMrozek do you have TooManyTabs open?
 
a) I could never live with 200MB of data a month. b) wth happened in Aug/Sep and Jan?
 
Hooray for unflattering pictures of CEOS:
Adobe's releasing a Flash to HTML5 converter.
 
and my nephew's usage pattern (8 yo)
 
Haha.
1.46 GB? Whoa!
 
Sometime around September I introduced him to wifi so "the pages would be faster" (his complaint was that on Edge he was not able to use his phone like I could to look stuff up)
 
4:27 PM
Wait, it's his iPhone? An 8yo with an iPhone?
That's a bit young to have a cell phone, an iPhone no less. Heh.
Good for him. He can buy Uncle Fred.
 
Let me put this in perspective for you Moshe.
He has a 32GB iPhone 4.
My wife has an 8GB iPhone 3G.
 
@drachenstern Better than me.
 
I carry a 32GB iPhone 3GS White.
 
@TimPost Are you still here?
 
(removed)
 
4:29 PM
It's his grandmother (my m-i-l) that spoils him, he also has a DS, a PSP, a Wii, an XBox and the list goes on
 
@MylesGray Yes
 
@MylesGray it works better to just go ahead and ask in the future
 
Can you have a look at a question for me please:
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Q: OR operator for StackOverflow API

Myles GrayI'm trying to get a list of questions from the SO API for a number of tags, At the moment I am using the ; operator to separate the tags in the URL but the thing is this only brings up questions that have ALL the tags in them. This is obviously no good, One option would be to get all new questi...

It was moved from SO when it is clearly an SO question
everyone keeps answering with the standard SO site URL not the API
 
@MylesGray No, it belongs on StackApps.
 
I feel like posting a RTFP
 
4:30 PM
It's SA actually, but no reason why it shouldn't be a SO question
 
@drachenstern the word "picture" wasn't bad. I seem to be rubbing off on you with my oft poor explanations. :P
 
the bone of the question is "does the API support and OR operator", which is clearly StackApps
 
Can it be moved to SA please?
 
@MylesGray Yes, one moment
 
Thanks guys :)
 
4:35 PM
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Q: OR operator for StackOverflow API

Myles GrayI'm trying to get a list of questions from the SO API for a number of tags, At the moment I am using the ; operator to separate the tags in the URL but the thing is this only brings up questions that have ALL the tags in them. This is obviously no good, One option would be to get all new questi...

 
I'm tempted to leave a comment saying it should be moved to SO
 
@MichaelMrozek Yup, that's just how you roll.
 
@MichaelMrozek please god not again
 
@MichaelMrozek That's a meta comment and thus shouldn't be left on stackapps
I'd migrate the comment immediately
 
pulls out Wheel of Migration Wheeeeeeee...
 
4:37 PM
I think it is a dupe on StackApps anyway.
 
lol
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Q: AND searching for tags?

johnwardsI am using the search api to search for questions that are tagged with "tags" and not with "tags". However I have noticed that searching for tags is an OR search. The questions search for tags is an AND search. Why the difference? e.g. AND Search http://api.stackoverflow.com/0.9/questions?tagge...

 
Someone flag it as "Oh dear baby jesus" again :P
 
@RebeccaChernoff Better to be a dupe on stackapps than off topic on MSO :)
I can't possibly search for dupes on every target site. That's why those sites have moderators.
 
@MylesGray done :)
 
@balpha I tried the OR serach before - it does not give the same results as the question search
 
4:40 PM
@balpha we need this feature!
 
Huh? I never said you were supposed to check for dupes, just pointing out that this whole thing is kinda silly
 
-- rchern becomes Jeff, and Jeff becomes rchern.
UPDATE Users SET DisplayName = 'rchern' WHERE DisplayName = 'Jeff Atwood
UPDATE Users SET DisplayName = 'Jeff Atwood' WHERE DisplayName = 'Rebecca Chernoff'
UPDATE Users SET DisplayName = 'Rebecca Chernoff' WHERE DisplayName = 'rchern'
 
@Nyuszika7H Meh, WHERE id=1 is much easier
 
@RebeccaChernoff Huh? I never said that you implied that I should check for dupes, just pointing out that I've now done silly += 1 :)
@RebeccaChernoff This could become the first recursive chat in the tavern, we are making history here.
 
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