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11:29 PM
I'm in college now, they are teaching me varibles :)
var = 2
print var
I'm disappointed he has't one mentioned hello world to the new comers to programming
 
Imagine that, my code is better than what the boss expected it to be ... oooh oooh ... :D
@Trufa what exactly should he have mentioned?
 
@drachenstern he should have made the classmates print "hello world"
 
@Trufa why?
 
@drachenstern because if not, what kind of programmers will they be?
 
@Trufa hopefully better
It's cute to do "Hello World" but it's not like that's the underpinning to anything useful. I would rather them understand memory and OS and compilers. It's wonderful when you can understand why a program does something and not just that it does that thing. I wish all programmers could read some of brainf*ck or whitespace
 
11:39 PM
@drachenstern he
@drachenstern yes I agree with your rant, but I think in your first programming class, it is not a good idea to mention brainf*ck
 
@Trufa No, and I don't think it's good to mention Hello World either. Personally I think programmers would be better served by not knowing anything about a language until they understood math by way of functions, and then teach them how to do math with programming, and then finally teach them string manip.
Granted, I don't teach CS ... yet.
I just think that it's structured all wrong in most places.
I also think they should be taught to program by learning how to write a spec:
 
So, you prefer the diving in the deep end approach to teaching, huh? :)
 
I want to write a program.
I want to write a program that will accept two numbers, add them, and display a number.
I will do this by having two inputs and one output.
^^^^^^ something like that
@GeorgeMarian if it means that they learn how to effing think for themselves then yes
 
@drachenstern You know there are liberal arts classes with that exact goal...
 
@GeorgeMarian And there are theoretically TCS classes with the same goal too ...
And then there's guys like this one onion-smelling greaseball that I had EE classes with who barely scraped by on a C average mostly by getting lucky but also by paying a lot of money for homework from other students that get a degree that the professors don't care to stop.
 
11:49 PM
There will always be douchebags.
 
Indeed
It's kinda sad how often I get starred on the list over yonder ... I didn't ever really think I had that much that was that interesting to say, just a kinda pompous gasbag :p
 
LOL Some people like that.
 
I s'pose so ;)
sitting here in the rain waiting on the power to go out listening to thinks crackle and rattle ... imagine a UPS is about to go out and that the rain has hail in it.
Fortunately I have an iPod
go go code that writes itself
Sometimes I wish that non-devs had a reason for tools like Visual Studio in that it would be nice to have some of these concepts applied to non-code data
 
@drachenstern Macros?
 

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