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6:00 AM
@DanG can I get a screenshot?
No flash
Is cs6 round the bend? 10% off cs5 today, iirc.
 
All the tools, all the filters, layer styles, all the panels... in the browser. Free. It's neat.
 
Nice!
Gnite.
 
The "Internet Kill Switch Bill", which gives the President authority to disconnect private internet infrastructure after declaring a "cyber emergency", has been reintroduced under a new name... the "Cybersecurity and Internet Freedom Act".
That's some Orwellian doublespeak there.
 
I'd be less against it if politicians were, um... Well known for integrity.
Really good night.
 
@DanGrossman The only way to keep the internet safe is to kill it!
 
6:08 AM
@DanGrossman Studio 60 did a joke about that where Congress passed the Democracy Act, making it illegal to vote
 
If one could invest in CSPAN, I would recommend buying shares, as watching our governmental representatives work is very nearly as entertaining as any reality show on TV right now.
A bunch of old men introducing bills named with a multitude of patriotic-sounding words, yelling at each other, shouting "POINT OF ORDER!" every 5 minutes, while the chair of whatever committee is on TV at the moment constantly refers to a mysterious man in a suit to tell him or her what to say next.
:For the 1964 documentary film, see Point of Order (film). For other uses see Point (disambiguation) A point of order is a matter raised during consideration of a motion concerning the rules of parliamentary procedure. Explanation and uses A point of order may be raised if the rules appear to have been broken. This may interrupt a speaker during debate, or anything else if the breach of the rules warrants it. The point is resolved before business continues. The point of order calls upon the chair to make a ruling. The motion is sometimes erroneously used to ask a question of information ...
 
6:45 AM
Programming is such a roller coaster ride.
By George, I think I've finally got it working right! :)
 
Hooray! I'm trying to figure out why this Eclipse plugin isn't working, heh.
 
Hooray, indeed. I was almost certain that I'd have to try again tomorrow.
I must say, I'm liking python. Not that it's a huge issue, but the lack of braces makes some changes much less annoying.
 
Heh :D
 
@TimStone Because, it's Eclipse? ;)
 
7:02 AM
@GeorgeMarian Possibly. But there's no error message, which is odd. It's just not doing what it's supposed to. :P
 
Are you sure you're supposing correctly? :)
 
Yeah, it's supposed to be adding an option to the preferences dialog, but it's not there.
 
@TimStone I'm sure it is doing exactly what you're telling it to do.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Hey, not my code, I just installed the plugin. :p
 
@TimStone And you're sure you're looking in the right place?
 
7:05 AM
details schmetails
 
Yep. The plugin shows up in the plugins list too, so..
I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling, but no change.
 
I meant within the preferences dialog. (I'm assuming the dialog is less then trivial.)
 
Oh, wait, it actually doesn't appear to be in the plugins list...
But it does appear in Installed Software, hmm.
 
anyone know the url of the SO ajax throbber by heart?
I'm not quick enough with my right click ;)
 
7:20 AM
 
@Benjol ok, I'm adding a 2 minute delay onto every ajax call on every site, just for you
 
@MarcGravell eh?
 
so you have ample time ;)
 
ah... got it
I thought you meant I was polling too much (hacking ajax right now...)
 
you'll know when we cut you off
just be reasonable
the team gets very cross when things are abused ;)
 
7:26 AM
@MarcGravell, (unrelated) do you have a handy js 'json date to local date string' function lying around somewhere that I can pinch/use?
 
That's why we treat chat like a delicate flower. ;)
 
which ajax? i.e. what is the number? new Date(t) or new Date(t * 1000) might work
 
the date that comes out of the so api: "creation_date":1221551080,
 
Hmm, bad Vizio! shakes fist
 
@MarcGravell, it was the *1000 I was missing. thanks!
Now I just need to add smarts for 'yesterday' etc...
 
7:31 AM
it might have been Jan 15th 1970?
;)
 
Difficult to sign in to StackOverflow before it and I were created :)
 
meh, mere implementation details. If you can't even do that...
 
Don't let these minor details get the best of you.
 
It would be a geek claim to fame to have a unix-epoch DoB
my birthday: 0
 
7:36 AM
alas, I'm nowhere near that ;)
 
@Benjol You can always take inspiration from SEDE (Just be sure not to try and write C# in JavaScript) :p
 
@TimStone just tried .toLocaleString() , but that also unfortunately translates it, not just sets the time zone :(
 
Ahh
 
Hmm. I got a lot done from my todo list today. \o/
 
Hooray!
@Benjol What is it specifically that you're trying to do?
 
7:42 AM
@TimStone, I'd like something more SO-like (2 minutes ago, 6 hours ago, yesterday etc)
 
i18n?
 
Or directly like the profile page (member for: 2 years, 3 months, seen: 4 mins ago)
@MarcGravell, no that's an example of what I don't want :)
 
Whenever you print the date out, it'll be in the client's timezone already, unless you ask for .toUTCString(). For doing that prettification, see the link from my other post to see how the Data Explorer does it for user profiles, should be sufficient enough.
 
here's another example for your tests then: "998aW78r9ea9837#(*$%&#$##$$#"
 
@All, I know it's just a big set of if/else, I just didn't want to have to think about it if someone else already has :)
 
7:45 AM
in chat, try localTimeSimple(1221551080)
 
@MarcGravell, I'm guessing that doesn't exist in main?
 
I got bored of my desktop, and ended up downloading the Halo: Reach theme pack from Microsoft...now when I delete things in my recycle bin, it does a plasma grenade noise, heh. :D
 
AWESOME.
 
41 secs ago, by Rebecca Chernoff
...
 
7:48 AM
It's not my fault you don't appreciate the finer things in life. |:
 
Also, hmm...I think perhaps I know what the issue with that plugin is.
shakes head at developer
 
@TimStone That's one interpretation of things. (;
 
@RebeccaChernoff Naturally it also happens to be the correct one.
 
...and that would be the wrong interpretation q:
I am never wrong.
Known fact.
 
7:51 AM
Right, your lack of appreciation for games isn't a result of you being wrong, it's just that you're misguided. ;)
Hm, I suppose I should apply updates. sigh
 
I was hoping to be more productive tonight. Stupid plugin. :(
God, Firefox sucks so much. I really just need to bring everything over to Chrome.
 
Yes, yes you should.
 
Is there a way to change the tab behaviour in Chrome, by the way? If I have a ton of tabs open, I'd really rather they didn't get unusably condensed.
restarts I need to get SSDs like Nick Craver so I can have sub-minute reboots, heh.
 
8:05 AM
Not too bad, what with the five million other things that needed updating too apparently.
 
8:16 AM
o_o
The speed difference on SE sites is incredible.
Ah good, all important tabs now moved to Chrome and the Eclipse plugin now works.
 
was wondering ... @YiJiang @badpDr @balpha could you set up a user script that gives me drag and drop for images ... so I can drag images onto the chat textbox area and have them upload automatically using html5 shaningens ?
 
@waffles IIRC, the image uploader is your work ;)
 
@balpha Does that mean we get to blame him for not trimming out that HTML5 idiocy that is "C:\fakepath\"? :P
 
I thought that was a Chrome thing?
 
@TimStone feel free to blame Sam for whatever you want
 
8:26 AM
It's part of the HTML5 spec.
@balpha I'll keep this in mind. ;)
 
just don't blame me if he blames you for blaming him
 
@balpha That sounds like @RebeccaChernoff's department anyway.
 
I was wishing I could find something like this (chat) at work. I'm starting to loathe skype
 
@TimStone o:
 
@TimPost Skype annoys me if for no other reason than its insistence on forcing me to have larger and larger windows with each version.
 
8:30 AM
@TimStone I cringe when it asks me to update.
 
Though to be fair, it's not nearly as horrible as the last few major versions of Windows Live Messenger.
I actually used to like that program, but then...I don't even know how to describe what they did, but the developers should be shot (or at least not allowed to write code ever again).
 
@TimStone I thought Skype was busy packaging their proprietary secret sauce into stripped / obfuscated static objects so that people who actually know how to write user interfaces could write one for Skype?
 
@TimStone I believe the word you're looking for is bloat
 
@TimPost Well, that was with respect to Windows Live Messenger, but....that I don't know about. :P
 
Perhaps that new "Facebook" button killed that idea. Skype doesn't want us taking that button out, no matter what. Facebook buttons have become the Soylent Green of user interfaces.
 
8:34 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Is that how you describe programs that are the software equivalent of Jersey Shore?
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The features were fine, the interface was to my liking...and then a couple of years ago they released a new version and it was like someone had come along and bejeweled the interface, and then decided that I should "Share photos" instead of just sending a file transfer.
Since there's nothing like trying to view a screenshot crammed into an IM window.
 
of course (:
 
Ah well. At least we have chat. :P
 
@RebeccaChernoff It's to avoid leaking data through the path... C:\Users\RebeccaChernoff\My Documents\Desktop\kitty.png
 
8:45 AM
Yeah I know.
Was just confused by what Tim wanted to strip out.
 
The way that the upload box works, you don't have to show the "C:\fakepath\" prefix.
 
ah, you just want the filename not the filepath
 
Aye.
 
well why didn't you just say so! (;
 
I think I did. :P
 
8:48 AM
@waffles I was having eviler plans with HTML5
actually I could start making them happen right now.
 
9:33 AM
@waffles for info drag/drop does work if you just have a file input. Which of course we never have in any of our rooms (hint hint)
 
He is probably faceplaming right now :D
 
You thank us? We close you. Welcome to Stack Exchange.
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The first rule of Stack Exchange is never thank Stack Exchange.
 
9:48 AM
closing @TimPost as duplicate of Jeff Atwood
 
[Re:new badge, I still think Zombie is a good idea :)]
 
I can get points for eating human flesh? AWESOME!
 
closing yahoo answers as a possible duplicate of stackexchange
 
@TimPost, no, it's a badge for people with no holes in their activity graph. Suggestions for new name welcome :)
 
@Benjol Aren't zombies nocturnal?
 
9:51 AM
@TimPost, I'm not a zoologist, I dunno, I just figured they didn't sleep at all :)
 
I think anyone with no holes in their activity graph is probably (in reality) a program running on a LISP machine in a basement at MIT that someone forgot to turn off.
 
Hear that @Jin? :)
And @badpDr, @MichaelMrozek, @DanGrossman :)
 
or watson or jon skeet
 
@Benjol You've confirmed my suspicions. LISP machines indeed had a hypervisor!
 
10:13 AM
oh lord
our neighbours' buzzer has been ringing for five minutes now
make it stop
I don't even know wtf is it, I think it's their door bell
 
@badp By the powerz of teh intertubez, we'll go over there and smash it for you! Just bare with us while we get the air tickets and the 10 hour flight to get there first
 
meanwhile
user image
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@Reno ...except that it's not actually covering its ears
FAIL
 
D:
 
@YiJiang I can bare with that, but I can't bear your typo :P
 
10:30 AM
@badp Bearing any aditional typoes I migt make alone the way, of coruse!
 
@YiJiang u should of check ure mispelings
it droves me mads lol
 
10:55 AM
My new comment length limit defeating measure:
> No cigar[.](http://./)
It's just slightly less invisibile.
if you want a real link I'll just use sadtrombone :P
don't make me. hides
 
About time my tireless contributions were rewarded!
user image
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Look at all the messages after that
 
@Pekka Grats!
 
@YiJiang hahaha!
 
@Pekka checks watch 7.03pm. Now gimme that badge!
 
I'm starting to cringe when people post MSO links in here. I never know what it will lead to.
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12:05 PM
 
12:38 PM
@YiJiang \o/
 
12:52 PM
Hi! :)
@YiJiang I got it, too :)
 
1:12 PM
Every time someone writes `condition ? true : false`, a unicorn loses its horn.
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A: Images for controller buttons and keyboard keys

badpSymbols for your copy pasting needs: △ ◯ ✕ ⬜ ▷ ← ↑ ↓ → ↖ ↹ ↲ ⟵ ⊞ ␣ ␛ ␡ ⌘ ⌥ ⎋ ⌫ ⇪ Don't goo too overboard with these, however, as they may not display correctly everywhere.

Am I missing something?
I looked for some caps lock keys etc, but I can't manage combinations like "A⃞" to display correctly (at least on Windows)
(A + combining enclosing square = square with an A in it, theoretically)
also no padlock unicode symbol...
or arrow pointing down with bar below
although ↓̲ looks kinda okay
except it doesn't.
 
I saw condition % 1 ? true : false recently. And they wonder why I gripe.
Then I got in trouble for re-naming the function almost_always_return_true() because condition was an unsigned 32 bit integer
 
I'll always think of this when @TimStone says 'shakes fist'
 
@TimPost if condition is anything but a bool, I can see at least a small justification; you might say ? true : false is clearer than (bool)condition or !!condition. But when it's a bool to begin with, the ternary shows a huge lack of understanding
 
@balpha - The problem is, values greater than 1 should have caused it to return false
So basically it's saying "if 0 return false, if 1 return false, if multiple of 1 return false"
 
1:26 PM
well yes, in any case you should write code that gives a correct result :)
 
I ended up ripping all of it out. It was weeks lost on an attempt to re-factor something that took two years to do, which we eventually threw out
 
1:37 PM
I can't believe how much time the BBC is dedicating to analyzing the ramblings of a madman
 
@YiJiang, at least he won't be fleeing to Switzerland :)
 
1:55 PM
> I like the idea of seeing an error message "Your password was right, but your username was wrong" – Gareth Feb 18 at 13:08
LOL
 
Morning. (Benjol-afternoon)
USA ? Good Morning : Good Afternoon
1 unicorn down. Hehehe mwahahaha
 
@Moshe, hi
 
2:13 PM
is going to install Win7 SP1
 
2:44 PM
Google, please, DONT BE EVIL: huffingtonpost.com/bob-bowdon/…
 
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Q: Badge Suggestion: Referenced Question / Answer

ircmaxellWhen looking at the Linked section of an answer, it's obvious that some questions are referred to significantly more than others. This is a good thing since it keeps the content in one place. Why re-write the same thing 100 times when we can just reference it once (that's how we handle duplicat...

^^ Thoughts?
 
the upvote is mine :)
 
@Moshe Reads just a little little as a conspiracy theorist, though this is coming from someone living in a country where every person has a uniquely identifiable id which is regularly required when filling out forms even when it is of no obvious use to anyone
 
:-D
@Moshe While I agree the line between evil and not-evil may be blurred in recent time for Google, I still stand behind that they are far less evil than pretty much any other company in that sector (MS, Apple, Facebook, etc)... So yes I agree, but I still think it's a bit, well, pedantic for them to be ranting against google when others are 10x worse...
 
@ircmaxell, only new news is news :)
 
2:56 PM
Yes, that's true
 
I do enjoy having an error handler that gives me stacktrace on errors, I just wish it was smart enough to give me active variables at the time of failure :(
 
Question, should I have access to developer info in chat?
 
define developer info
 
schema update tools, error log, email search, etc
 
um
no
 
3:05 PM
How pray tell do you have access to that information?
 
I just posted a bug on it...
 
@ircmaxell please do not make them turn off our chat for several hours, that would be bad :P
 
And I have no idea. I just noticed the Admin tab at the top of the chat-listing page
clicked it, saw that info and went, uhhhh....
 
@ircmaxell Never log out :)
 
And the question I just posted was promptly deleted
 
3:08 PM
ok well I don't have it
@ircmaxell yeah duh :p
 
I don't have the Admin tab, is this a bug?
 
@LoïcWolff lmao
 
yeah, I figured as much
 
So to confirm, this is a random occurrence, it's not sitewide
 
3:08 PM
QR code.
 
Nothing fun ever happens to me -_-
 
@michaelMrozek define fun.
 
@Moshe Randomly gaining access to all dev tools
 
What if all the devs randomly gained access to you?
Is that also fun?
 
3:14 PM
Hello
 
HArro
 
3:41 PM
@drachenstern interesting.
 
@Moshe the imdb title? It's a good film. You should watch it sometime.
 
4:13 PM
I know emails from @RebeccaChernoff are form letters when they start "Hi Michael!"
@RebeccaChernoff is never happy to see me unless it's computer-generated happiness :(
 
-3
Q: Make background calls - Android

eesteinHi there! I'd like to know if it's possible to make background phone calls. I need to be able to listen what my employees are saying if I send a custom command through SMS (already doing). Is there any way I can start a phone call in background so my employee won't know I'm listening? Thanks. ...

 
@MichaelMrozek lol, you too? :p
 
uhhhh
 
Also, what about the typos and the like in the formletters/
@ircmaxell read the question before the kneejerk reaction.
 
4:15 PM
I am
+1, that's interesting
 
It's also terrible
 
It's also illegal in most states.
 
It's pretty much never a good sign when the asker needs to edit in justification for the question
 
I know in NJ, it's illegal for an employer to record audio except when given explicit concept for each occurance.
(We had a fight with an employer who wanted to put a mic in our ambulance in addition to the drivecam. Department Of Labor came in and shut that down quickly
 
@MichaelMrozek no, someone else edited in his favor
 
4:18 PM
@drachenstern No?
 
@MichaelMrozek ok, well he edited it but with someone else's words from down the page :\
@ircmaxell since it's for a city hall, if it's permissible for that jurisdiction, then that's all one can do. But yeah, once they leave the premises of working for the City, then it's not fair for the city to continue to monitor them. This is really tricky territory and I would personally quit my job rather than write this particular app.
 
Absolutely. It's a moral gray area...
 
It's unethical in every sense of the word that I know it to be, regardless of the legality of it. I guess some people gotta eat.
Speaking of which ...
 
> 1.8 Honor confidentiality. The principle of honesty extends to issues of confidentiality of information whenever one has made an explicit promise to honor confidentiality or, implicitly, when private information not directly related to the performance of one's duties becomes available. The ethical concern is to respect all obligations of confidentiality to employers, clients, and users unless discharged from such obligations by requirements of the law or other principles of this Code.
Does this employer's request violate that part of the ACM CoE or is it upheld?
 
4:28 PM
@YiJiang That kind of ruins things for me, you know. :P
 
Hey... Months is a unit of data now.
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Q: load csv file content into mysql table with validation

cranberiesi want to import a large csv file (about 12MO) into mysql table , first i tried with LOAD DATA INFILE it work perfectly , but in my case i want test the csv rows to determine if i want to update data or insert new records so the solution is to read the file and compare the content of each row wi...

needs to be less of a jerk.
 
@mootinator answered. May not be 100% right but gives an approach
 
@drachenstern +1 for ignoring the narrowly scoped question.
 
I read the question to be the following:
> but in my case i want firstly test the csv rows to determine if i want to update data or insert new records so the solution is to read the file and compare the content of each row with the data already in the table , and make the right action
 
I always just convert CSV files to insert statements using a regex :)
 
4:43 PM
I ignored all the other crap, because that's what it is. He wants to do fancy things using toolkits that he doesn't understand the underlying CRUD
 
@drachenstern Yeah, I saw that.
 
@mootinator I convert my CSV files to temporary files -> staging tables -> actual imports, but that's just me.
I was particularly proud of the last line of my answer.
 
Now, go add to your answer that MySQL has syntax for this.
 
@mootinator no, you should so we can see which way he goes ;)
 
Okay, but I'll just post the link ;)
 
4:45 PM
I think TSQL has something similar, but this way he's not relying on a feature of the underlying engine but rather relying on SQL in general. I know ORA has a similar feature
 
Yep.
 
@mootinator: @drachenstern: i have a question regarding Badges,can i shoot here
 
@SankarGanesh Sure
 
@SankarGanesh absolutely
 
@mootinator: and @drachenstern: Thanks, friends
@mootinator: and @drachenstern: pls see this meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/80380/…
 
4:52 PM
They don't always get awarded immediately.
 
Hi! :)
 
@mootinator: oh, when i get this
@Nyuszika7H: hai friend
 
What badge is it you want to get awarded?
I'm trying to remember the name of the badge
 
android/bronze - Has well over the 20 non wiki answers and exactly 101 upvotes
 
@drachenstern: android tag badge
 
4:59 PM
I forgot, I was looking at the wrong tab :p /facepalm
 

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