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5:00 PM
@drachenstern: and @mootinator: i had answered 121 non wiki questions with total score of 101
 
So you passed that threshold 4 hours ago?
 
@drachenstern: yes, my dear friend
 
@SankarGanesh yes, we can read quite well. As can ChrisF. And we can find your profile quite quickly. We're pretty good at navigating SE2.0.
I think that there's another criterion missing, thinking
 
If you just passed 100 points in today, you won't be awarded the badge for at least another seven hours. I think it might take nine hours, but I'm not sure.
 
@drachenstern: SE2.0 means
 
5:02 PM
The StackExchange2.0 network of sites.
@TimStone yeah, I couldn't remember if those were given out on UTC rollover or what ...
 
@drachenstern:ok, my dear friend what criteria is missing
 
I would advise, at the present, to wait until this time tomorrow. If you still don't have the badge by this time tomorrow, then come back here and scream loudly ;)
 
Patience.
 
@SankarGanesh what @TimStone said above.
 
While the number in your profile changes, the scores for each tag are recalculated at the end/beginning of each day, and presumably they're the driver for that badge.
 
5:03 PM
@TimStone: hmm, i was so exicited to see that badge, but after i m not able to get for 4 hours, i was disappointed myself, i m not able to get my reward
@TimStone: and @drachenstern: and @mootinator: ok, thanks for the info, i will wait for tommorow, but i will continue my good work,eventhough , i m not able to get badges
 
@SankarGanesh Well, you seem to have met all of the criteria from what I can see, so you will certainly get it once the site checks to see that you should be given it. Congratulations on providing so many helpful Android answers.
 
@SankarGanesh don't get too negative. There are too many people for them to run every query every time a vote is cast. These things have to be scheduled for performance reasons. You'll get the badge.
@SankarGanesh practice patience. It is a virtue that we as a society seem to have forgotten.
 
@TimStone: thanks, my dear friend
@drachenstern: hmm, i never get negative my dear friend, sure i will patience, my dear friend, but what happened is i m seeing my profile for every minute by refreshing the page and opens it in a different browser and checking as madly, that's y spoke like that, sorry for that , also last two days i had got 99 upvotes , and working hard for getting 100 votes , that's also another reason
@TimStone: and @drachenstern: and @mootinator: friends, i feel very happy after speaking with you, may i know about you guys
 
I... have to go fill a tire again >:(
 
@mootinator: can't get your message my dear friend
 
5:15 PM
One of the tires in my van empties itself if the temperature drops below -20 overnight.
 
Is it just me or is writing JavaScript fun?
I haven't really written JS in a long time.
 
I probably just need a new rim.
@Moshe It's just you.
 
I'm sure it will be a pain after a while but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
 
@mootinator: hmm, may i know about you
 
12 hours ago, by Dan Grossman
user image
 
5:18 PM
@SankarGanesh I do realize that there's a language barrier, but the question is not coming across clearly. Do you mean to ask "will you tell me about yourself?"
 
@drachenstern: yes, you are right, my dear friend
 
In this chat, we are not so focused on that sort of topic, we just speak of our day as it happens. We learn of each other through months of talking, not just minutes. You're more than welcome to come each day and learn, but you're not likely to get anyone to just give you a full bio. Not in this room.
 
@mootinator I just can't believe the small slice that PHP has in that chart. No way, no how.
 
@GeorgeMarian Perhaps people have special expletives they reserve just for PHP.
 
launch conference pres is about to start if you're wanting to watch: launch.is
 
5:21 PM
@GeorgeMarian I thought that was odd too
 
@mootinator What is that chart of?
 
I forgot who it was last night that said "It's because the PHP programmers are young and haven't learned those words yet."
 
@drachenstern: hmmm, ok tell me , atleast what platforms you had worked
 
I liked that explanation. lol
 
12 hours ago, by Dan Grossman
Ratio of swear words per commit message by language on github
 
5:22 PM
guys i was wonder that java hasn't got too much of part in that chart
 
Ahhh, nice
 
@SankarGanesh I work with all major platforms, for all major types of technology. I primarily focus on web-based tech nowadays, writing in javascript or writing server-side handlers to talk to the javascript.
 
Ah, here we go:
12 hours ago, by Mark Elliot
@GeorgeMarian kids don't know those words yet
 
@drachenstern: i will come everyday and ask one by one my questions about you , can i ???????????
 
5:24 PM
@SankarGanesh I would advise against that.
 
@SankarGanesh Agreed, it's partly a matter of who posts code on github.
 
click someone's name, click the second link about user profiles, goto the accounts page, and then click their SO accounts to learn more about them.
 
@drachenstern You got yourself a stalker, eh?
 
Otherwise, I would just suggest coming and chatting with people.
@GeorgeMarian nah, he wants us all to give him a bio so he knows who he's talking to. He's apparently kinda new to SO :p (excepting his nearly 3k on SO)
 
@GeorgeMarian: hi, my dear friend
 
5:25 PM
@SankarGanesh I am at the moment C# developer primarily working with a proprietary payroll system which integrates with ACCPAC.
 
@drachenstern Ah, I see.
My profile is the best you're gonna get. Otherwise, like he said spend time in here and get to know us. There's no shortcuts to these things.
 
My profile just says "Standard Nerd" so you can have one free description out of me :)
 
@drachenstern: i m not a new to Stack overflow, i m guy who is a member for 6 months in Stack overflow and programmers beta, i got plenty of friends, but i have not used meta, so today is my first day on meta chat
 
@SankarGanesh yes, that was my point about the nearly 3k on SO
 
@GeorgeMarian: hmmm, Sure
 
5:27 PM
I knew that you were not often on chat.meta since you were asking all these questions
 
@mootinator: hmm, i willing to learn C#, so far i donot know anything about #
 
Also, while I appreciate the formality of "my dear friend" and am sure that it's integral to your culture, here (primarily Western Europeans and Americans) we don't say that. It's almost too intimate to us, so that's not "normal". Forgive people if they get annoyed by seeing that repeatedly
 
@drachenstern: ok, i avoid that word in future
@drachenstern: and @GeorgeMarian: and @mootinator: i am a guy, who had 1 year of exp in java, j2ee and struts and ejb3 and a little bit in spring and now i had 7 months of exp in android, that's it , about me
 
I was downvoted by Jon Skeet this morning. He noticed me. Swoon.
 
5:31 PM
@mootinator lol, NICE :p
@SankarGanesh ok, now tell me this: what do you do outside of the office?
What you do with computers doesn't really excite me (so to speak), it's who you are as a person that defines you and gets others interested in you.
anyone see anything wrong with this spot of code? else if ( type.ToUpper() == "NISC_iVue" ) <-- yeah, that's yours truly right there...
 
> In creating Watson, IBM's researchers figured out that authoritative texts like the Oxford English Dictionary, Bartlett's Familiar Quotations, Wikipedia – yes, Wikipedia – and various encyclopedias were the best data sets suited to playing Jeopardy!.
 
reckon why it didn't work? :p
 
Wikipedia – yes, Wikipedia
lol
 
lol
well it is by and large authoritative, if only because it's so well monitored
 
Yah, I like to bash on it because of the politics and what not, but it's usually a good place to get a bit of information.
 
5:36 PM
@drachenstern: i spend my time with my friends, relatives and in my garden and also spend time in my Stackoverflow chat room, this is ,my actoivity ouside of my office
 
Truth be told, any encyclopedia has its issues.
 
Like the lack of detailed analysis of every Simpsons episode.
Every other encyclopedia suffers from that.
 
@SankarGanesh I sure do miss getting fresh vegetables from the garden.
@mootinator Precisely. They're good as a starting point or just to get an overview.
 
@GeorgeMarian: hmmm, why i miss that
 
@SankarGanesh which SO chat room?
 
5:39 PM
@SankarGanesh Because I live in an apartment, so I have no room for a garden. Not to mention that I did plenty of weeding in the garden as a child. I don't think I'd enjoy that very much. lol
 
@drachenstern: Android Help and My own room named MY Erudition of Programming Languages
 
@GeorgeMarian I can't mow grass anymore, gives me a sinus headache, no matter what I take to try and prevent it. I don't mind doing yardwork, but I mind the falling down dead after mowing the grass
 
Ouch, that sucks.
 
@SankarGanesh you should hang out in javascript if only to learn a little more colloquial English.
 
@GeorgeMarian: I invite you to my garden and but in my garden you can find only rose flowers and jasmine flowers, no vegtables, hahah , lol
@drachenstern: colloquial in the sense, i m not able to understand this
 
5:41 PM
Ah, lol. Different kinda garden. Here we'd specifically call that a flower garden.
 
A colloquialism is a phrase that is common in everyday, unconstrained conversation, rather than in formal speech, academic writing, or paralinguistics. Dictionaries often display colloquial words and phrases with the abbreviation colloq. as an identifier. Colloquialisms are also sometimes referred to collectively as "colloquial language". 1. characteristic of or appropriate to ordinary or familiar conversation rather than formal speech or writing; informal. 2. involving or using conversation. Examples Some examples of informal colloquialisms can include words (such as "y'all" or "go...
> 1. characteristic of or appropriate to ordinary or familiar conversation
 
@drachenstern: nice
@drachenstern: and @GeorgeMarian: and @mootinator: do you have accounts in twitter, if then , pls give me that, i will follow you guys on twitter
 
I rarely use my twitter but I bet if you think REAL HARD that you can figure out my twitter by observing my name in chat
 
Yah, I don't tweet much either, but if you can't find me on twitter than you're blind. :)
 
Hi folks. What have I missed during lunch?
@drachenstern - I have thought about developer mode.
 
5:45 PM
@GeorgeMarian: and @drachenstern: give me your twitter names, i will follow you, :)
 
Gotta implement.
@sankarganesh I'm @bermaniastudios
(not that I was asked)
 
My twitter account is also trivial to find.
 
ducks
 
@Moshe: thanks
 
I mean
ME TOO
 
5:46 PM
@mootinator: why that probs for you
 
@mootinator
 
@Moshe and?
 
@Moshe: I m following you, now
 
@drach I have a way to implement it.
 
5:48 PM
@Moshe and? :p
Hey! He figured it out ;) :p I have a new follower.
 
@drachenstern: followed and @GeorgeMarian: followed and @Moshe: followed
 
@SankarGanesh Yah, I saw the email. :P
 
@mootinator I once corrected Jon Skeet on Meta, but then he deleted his answer.
 
@drachenstern: i m your new follower
@GeorgeMarian::)
@TimStone: i had forgot about you, pls give your profile name in twitter i will follow you
 
@TimStone Hehe :)
 
5:50 PM
@SankarGanesh yeah, that's obviously what I meant. This is also what I meant about the colloquialisms. You don't need to tell us that we got a new follower on twitter, twitter does a good job on that on it's own.
 
@SankarGanesh I don't use Twitter.
 
@drachen-tester stay tuned for an update.
 
@drachenstern:hmm, i will correct it
 
@Moshe ahem I score 700mil and you think I need a way to drive my score up? ahem thanks for the offer tho ;)
@SankarGanesh "I'll try"
 
@drachenstern: I will try
 
5:52 PM
@drach I got this web form and javascript working and I need to make it accessible.
 
@Moshe I don't know what you mean in the least
 
Sorry. Remember our convo yesterday. About an HTML form and JS to show sections?
 
Ah yes
what do you mean accessible?
 
Say I don't have JS enabled, then what do I see? Right now nothing. The CSS hides everything by default.
 
Yes ... that's what a <noscript/> block is for.
 
5:55 PM
I need to override that in a noscript block or something. I just wanted to know where the noscript CSS goes. In the head or the body tag?
 
I'm going to hazard a guess that you're doing it wrong
let it all show by default, hide it with JS on DOM ready.
 
Ok. So how do I hide the form by default?
 
Careers 2.0 \o/
 
Then it will flicker, no?
 
it may flicker. How intensive is your page? Do you have like 50 images?
@TimStone Yatta!
 
5:58 PM
Nothing yet. I'm working with the form first.
I'm concerned about slow connections.
 
and I'm not
if they have a dialup and no js then let them suffer.
who's your target market?
Are they in "the west"?
 
Yes. The target audience's government is not shooting and bombing them ad disabling their Internet if that's what you mean.
And not behind the great firewall of china either.
 
Are they in "the wild, wild west?"
 
It's a fundraising site and I don't want to block donors for the sake of fanciness.
 
@mootinator no, meaning first world countries
 
6:01 PM
So I think that my approach is slightly better. Backwards compatibility sans flicker.
 
You never know.
 
Yeah, so unless you're targeting a group of people that predominantly don't have access to 768k+ DSL, and who are prone to shutting off JS, then I would not worry about those.
 
Maybe they have really big monitors in Texas you have to worry about.
 
@Moshe no, it's not backwards compatible. Ignore that crap in a browser.
 
Anyone?
 
6:01 PM
@Moshe WRONG
You want to TARGET the wealthy.
that's the point of a fundraiser.
the poor can not contribute
 
Fair enough.
 
@mootinator I'll give you a zing hows that? :p
The wealthy can afford 2mbps+ dsl and fancy Chromium computers :p
Also, you're forgetting the primary rule of programming: make it right. then make it fast. then make it fancy. but always make it right first.
make the page right
 
@Moshe (continuing his annoying misinterpretation of drach) Yes, make it right first, meaning only take voluntary donations. You can have the site extract money from donors via the government at a later time.
 
@mootinator oh you're not going to get me to speak badly about you that easily :p
 
Thanks.
 
6:06 PM
Dan... what?
 
Click it?
 
@DanGrossman while I appreciate the humor in that, you can refrain from the language next time :p
 
No thanks
 
It's just a cat and a chicken, geeze.
 
@ircmaxell it's lolcat worthy, not NSFW. Trust me, very SFW
 
6:07 PM
hehehe
Fair enough, it is...
 
Ok. Fixed. Seems to work.
 
That was a flag/star post if I ever saw one.
 
:smirks:
 
@GeorgeMarian Did you post a profile on Careers by the way?
 
@TimStone Yup, just haven't paid to have it searchable.
 
6:09 PM
Now to make the form work. Then prettify it.
 
@mootinator indeed ;)
 
(you may be interested in the blog post by the way)
 
@TimStone About the new passive search feature?
 
one sec, need to attend to food.
 
Is there an existing service or perhaps a library to get a city/state from a zip code?
 
6:11 PM
@GeorgeMarian may not be 100% flushed out, but do read the blog post. It explains in some detail. Also Jeff posted about it a couple days ago on here
 
I want to make my form shorter and just take the ZIP code
 
35
Q: New Careers feature "Passive Candidate Search" - feedback wanted!

David FullertonWe're launching a new, experimental feature tomorrow on Careers, and wanted to get people's opinion on it. As always, our goal is to help awesome programmers find great jobs. However, we've found that: People don't always want to signal that they're looking for a job A lot of candidates don't...

 
coooooool, I like the new profiles
 
Where do you see that?
 
6:11 PM
Yes, there are somewhere @Moshe
 
OIC...I need to get me an invite!
 
Anyway, I was curious if your profile seemed to be in working order, because using the search yielded me 0 results for my area.
 
Ahh, I'm not on there yet...
 
Which I find unlikely. :P
 
6:13 PM
Well, that's a bug.
 
I got nothing but zeros.
 
@drach Googling....
 
Ooo careers is so much cooler now that it's an exclusive club.
 
I'm not sure where to find the invites
 
ok, gone to lunch, need to run errands before my wife screams and shoots me.
 
6:15 PM
Ok. Don't get shot. I need my beta testers.
 
Seriously, what's the limit on this profile URL? Because it seems a tad short to me.
 
LMAO
 
It has me at 90th percentile for , does it only do 10 percentile increments (since I'm top-12 all time in the tag)...
 
That last one is particularly important when choosing candidates.
 
I tried to make it .../george_marian It truncated that to ../georgemn So, I opted for ../george :)
@TimStone lol
@ircmaxell Yah, I dunno. I'm in the 80th and I haven't answered a question in ages.
 
6:18 PM
@TimStone ROTFL
 
Bright Orange definitely.
 
Their programmers don't seem to understand percentages, or what complete means.
 
uhhh
 
AFK for a bit, I need to eat and pay some attention to the friend's child.
 
...how many things are broken about this?
I set my profile URL to /2 and it saved, but the link doesn't actually work :(. And I still have no idea how to invite people or set my favorite answer
Oh, I guess the link is broken because the profile is private; I assumed it at least worked for me
 
6:24 PM
it worked for you because you were logged in
 
It didn't work for me
 
There are some...oddities.
 
@DanGrossman I think the old FAQ had an explanation for this
 
I'd love to hear the explanation for 180%
 
25
A: Why is my CV 145% complete?

Jeff AtwoodThe over 100% is intentional -- just indicates that you've gone the "extra mile" beyond the minimum required.

@MichaelMrozek I'm 200 % :)
 
6:25 PM
@DanGrossman The idea is the higher the percentage the higher the chances employers will look at your profile
My original one was at about 800% before I canned it.
 
Now my 65% is even more inferior than I thought
 
Why do cs job postings either: put me to sleep, or make me suspicious as to why they're trying to sound "hip".
 
@mootinator Worse yet, why do we have to read that much into them?
 
"Design complete detailed specifications that conform to development and architectural best practices" Ooh, when can I start!
I've always wanted to design complete detailed specifications.
 
6:28 PM
The bubblier the job ad, the more I worry. Ditto if they list a bunch of "benefits" of their work environment.
 
Oh good, someone fixed the search, I think.
 
@TimStone Flood of emails?
 
@GeorgeMarian Ditto.
 
@GeorgeMarian No, people just show up now. :P
 
It roughly translates to: "We give you free pop in the lunch room instead of $20,000 in salary and benefits."
 
6:30 PM
@TimStone Oh, that's not as exciting/humorous.
 
Weird, it's not letting me edit my profile...
 
@ircmaxell The invite system kicked it, and no one understand the rules yet. You need to be invited even if you had a profile before, if you didn't pay and file.
 
Ahhhh
 
reading the faq now
 
6:32 PM
@GeorgeMarian It's also confusing because when you search, it shows the profiles of SOIS employees under "Showing sample profiles only", heh.
 
I am weighing the merits of listing MSO as one of my 'listed' SE sites on Careers 2.0
 
ever since jeff retweeted me, I get stuff like this by the minute
“@balpha: Every time someone writes `condition ? true : false`, a unicorn loses its horn.” I did this twice today, am I a bad person?
 
That's not a double edged sword. That's a Gilette Mach 3 on crack.
 
lol
 
@TimPost lol
 
6:33 PM
@balpha That's why I don't retweet you; you couldn't handle the volume of loyal followers I have
 
@balpha :(
 
@TimStone Me thinks they have some kinks to work out yet.
 
@GeorgeMarian I think so too. I'll be very sad if I can't tell how many cadidates are Sandy Brown versus Bright Orange though.
 
@mootinator Or worse, in a vain attempt to distract you from the crazy work environment.
 
How else can I pick?
 
6:34 PM
quite a few people think I'm dissing the terneray op
 
@TimStone rofl
 
which isn't quite my point...
 
@balpha That makes me even more sad.
 
@balpha -1 It's called the conditional operator
(I hate those people)
 
@balpha It's amazing that some people can even breath.
I can be such a jerk. :D
 
6:35 PM
@MichaelMrozek It's also called "automobile", not car ;)
 
makes a mental note to use condition?false:true instead of !condition in order to enrage future maintainers of his code.
 
Bleh. Anyone here now how to get a custom server control to render inside a DevExpress callback panel?
 
@mootinator: Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live.
 
@balpha That's horseless carriage if you don't mind :)
 
lol, anyone else seen this? youtube.com/…
 
6:43 PM
@hyperslug LOL "use the loofah"
 
@balpha NARQ is raising a "Sorry, retrieving a game from the API failed. Please try again."
 
@TimPost I always blame Kevin
what site?
 
@balpha You should make that the error message.
 
@balpha SO
 
I got it on WebApps once, but refreshing fixed it. shrugs
 
6:47 PM
I should really start logging something more informative than
> exception while making game
2
 
Naaaw.
 
I get it on UL about half the time
@balpha blamed our low question volume :(
 
low question volume is good -- after the cache has filled up
if you manage to start a couple U&L games in a row, you shouldn't see any problems
 
That looks better. I think I'm going to use this profile as my resume on my blog, instead of a webpage.
 
all will be good as soon as you can ask the api for a random question with between a and b votes and between x and y tags
 
6:53 PM
Hrm, I wonder how silly it is to list 'moderator of Gaming' in my CV :P
 
Very silly, unless you're applying to be community manager at a game company. That's part of the customer service department.
 
It might mean I can obtain trust and organize people <_<
 
Leader of top 20 guild on [random WoW server]
Filed under "things that get your resume thrown out 9/10 times."
 
I just put that "I am 11 years old and a IT/computer whizz" on mine and watched the job offers flood in
 

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