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3:01 PM
As a result of whatever network policy changes at our uni, we all now have access to a whopping 512kbps link, as opposed to whatever bandwidth the router happened to be able to provide to us-
(peaks in the range of 1 MB/s, nothing glorious)
 
Fun stuff.
 
here's a side effect of all that gratiously saved bandwidth:
 
nice ping time, jesus h calcolo
 
people running speedtest for amusement on the uni's desert, phat pipes. ._.
 
Since you mention that... how much should a router slow down network traffic?
 
3:05 PM
Gah...I so cannot stand stupid/lazy recruiters.... headline: "NY-New York-Midlevel-PHP Developer" 2nd line of job desc: "We need a Lead Software Developer who has expert-level experience in PHP scripting."
 
@PopularDemand "should" as in "normally would" or as in "ought to"?
 
@radp Normally, I suppose.
 
well, it depends by the inbound queue length
 
@YiJiang What's up?
 
@TimStone Have you pushed the fix for that odd typo that's causing errors in Firefox? I still see those even though I've updated
 
3:15 PM
Oh, no. I'll do that today, sorry about that.
 
Morning.
 
@TimStone Thanks. No problem
 
@Moshe mornin'
 
3:36 PM
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Q: iPad app UI help

MosheI'm making an iPad app that, for our purposes here, runs a slideshow and has a settings panel to configure the various slides. The app uses various templates for the slides and as such must have an editor for each slide. I was using a UITableView for the editors, and offering UITextFields and su...

 
@Moshe Try not to go too deep into the technical part of it, which would probably make for a SO question
 
Merry arbitrary day off.
 
The UI design should be separate from the technical implementation
 
3:51 PM
I voted to close a question 30 minutes ago, and now that I'm trying to cast another vote, I see that the box says I have 12 votes left for today. Can anyone repro?
 
@PopularDemand I just closed and went down to 11
 
@PopularDemand Just tried it on the graphicsdesign beta, no repro
 
Cosmic rays it is, then. Thanks.
 
you're so popular, they gave you a bakers dozen instead.
 
@PopularDemand Try again; if you're still at 12 you can start selling your votes to people
 
3:53 PM
@MichaelMrozek Rematch??
 
Bad idea: allowing CPUs to build railroads in OpenTTD
 
@radp Hehe, they're not too bad
But they can't seem to create complex networks
 
Awww. OpenTTD. Haven't played that in forever.
 
Man, after just 6 years it's practically impossible to build any further (without tunnels)
 
Which means that they're pretty much stuck building point to point lines
 
3:58 PM
@ThomasOwens It's become the unofficial game of this room, apparently
 
@radp How small a map are you playing on?
 
@YiJiang er that's what I'm (er was) doing
512²
 
@MichaelMrozek Meh, that would be WwF
 
Don't forget Minecraft.
 
I prefer Minecraft, honestly.
 
3:58 PM
@radp Shouldn't run out of space that quickly
What about town and industry density?
 
Minecraft and WwF together haven't been talked about in here more than OpenTTD. I think there are more screenshots of OpenTTD than there are posts about WwF
 
WwF?
Not familiar with it.
 
A scrabble-type game for iPhones
 
WwF = Words with Friends. iOS Scrabble clone.
 
@ThomasOwens Word with Friends. You can hear people commenting on each other's moves here
 
4:00 PM
Ah. I'm an Android guy. Wouldn't know about that. But Scrabble is fun.
 
Which makes non-players like me sad :(
 
It's the (.|.)'s.
 
Aren't there non-iOS ports of WwF yet?
 
@BrantBobby They're working on it for Android. And there's Wordfeud
 
Doesn't matter. Catandroid is coming out htis Spring.
 
4:01 PM
WordFeud on Android is BETTER than WwF :)
 
apparently "Giant screenshot" does mean giant
 
@radp Oh, heh, you should not have pressed that button
 
oh, the 13 MB 16320×8160 image rendered just fine.
 
My 512x512 game produced a 170mb+ monster than took 5 min to take
 
also Dropbox seems to be conveniently ignoring the image
 
4:04 PM
@radp 13mb is going to take a while. Maybe some other app still has a lock on that file?
 
@YiJiang hardly, I mv'ed it, I opened it. Dropbox claimed "idle" so...
 
@radp Anyway, for complex setups tunnels are almost always needed. Hell, even something simple like having two incompatible forms of rail cross over will need it:
 
LOL
selecting (I mean, merely clicking on) that giant screenshot wtfpwned the file picker and Chrome with it
 
@radp Hahaha
 
I imagine the bug report: "attempting to draw a preview of a 16320×8160 image crashes the GNOME file selector."
 
4:08 PM
Anyway, protip: turn on realistic acceleration for complex rail setups - far better than the original physics model
 
Reply #1 from a @MichaelMrozek sort of person: "yeah, don't do that. WONTFIX"
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yeah...i turned that off completely in my install, i don't need my HDDs thrashed that much
 
4:26 PM
Typing up a question in notepad: 10 minutes.
Pasting it into the "Ask Question" page and seeing an exact dupe of what you were about to ask at the top of the "Related Questions" list: 10 seconds.
 
@BrantBobby Hey, you can only blame yourself for not searching beforehand :P
 
1 hour ago, by radp
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@radp DO WANT!!!!!!!!!!
 
status-no-shit-sherlock
 
@Josh Wow, an ISP that has 4.5/5 rating. That's better than anything I've seen
My current ISP has about 2.2/5, and it's competition aren't doing any better
 
yeah. Same here
how is everyone today?
 
4:29 PM
@Josh Trying to figure out why vehicles in OpenTTD seems to have a tendency to bunch up together
It's almost like they want to hug each other
 
LOL
 
Having a good day.. looking forward to the gym after work.
 
Will probably ask on Gaming.
 
@YiJiang It's not an ISP, that's my university. It also happens to host the GARR.
1 hour ago, by radp
As a result of whatever network policy changes at our uni, we all now have access to a whopping 512kbps link, as opposed to whatever bandwidth the router happened to be able to provide to us-
 
@radp Oh, that explains it.
 
4:33 PM
@YiJiang post a link
@Fosco yeah I just finished on the bike, exercise is good for the brain!
 
My new years resolution is to get serious about doing yoga regularly. It's good stuff!
 
@Josh It definitely is... I've been having great work sessions after coming home from the gym.. I went 10 times in the last 7 days.
 
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Q: Why do multiple vehicles running same route tend to bunch up together?

Yi JiangHaving more than one vehicle working a single route usually means that after a while, the vehicles tend to bunch up together. I had previously thought it may be minute differences in delays introduced through, for instance, waiting for a free path for trains, differences in cargo loading time or ...

 
After 10 trips to the gym in a week, I actually gained 2 pounds... Though, I had lots of beer and kielbasa last night.. surely that didn't help.
 
4:55 PM
Huh, Gaming lost it's pixelated font again
Why does this keep happening? Very weird.
 
@YiJiang Same machine(s)/browser(s)?
 
Please fill in the blank:
 
@PopularDemand Don't usually use any other machine or browser, so a little hard there. Force refreshing restores it, but having to do this every few days is weird.
 
> Valve's team based class __ Phong shaded multiplayer hat simulation game with a minigame FPS around it. Announced in 1998, it was released in 2007 as part of the Orange Box.
I'd use "based" but it'd be a repetition.
 
@Fosco awesome, good for you!
 
5:06 PM
That comment made little sense until I realized which message it was replying to
 
hehe
@radp pretty funny calling it a hat simulation game... TF2 is my all-time favorite time killer.
 
@Fosco yes, but what can I put in the blank?
 
Hat simulation? Eh... why would you call TF2 that?
 
FLAG AMPLIFICATION!
 
@Shog9 What?
 
5:09 PM
@YiJiang a lot of updates have brought hats to the game.. everyones in different headgear now
 
@YiJiang it appears that comment flags now show in the 10K tools
 
@Shog9 Yup, and 95% of them are pretty darn stupid
 
@radp what about "Valves Team & Class based"
 
And you know what that means... wink wink
 
err, team and class based, team/class based, team & class based.
 
5:10 PM
@YiJiang I think you're being generous. Where are these 5% intelligent comments hiding?
 
@Shog9 Maths, obviously.
 
flags away happily
damn, out of flags already. Boo.
 
@Shog9 Psh, I ran out of flags in under 60 seconds on SO today. On a totally different note, thanks again for that carrot cake recipe.
 
good stuff, eh!
 
5:18 PM
@Shog9 Yeah, although I forgot to take your "reduce flour and sugar" advice, which in hindsight probably would have been pretty helpful.
 
heh, it's pretty rich. Just drink extra black coffee
 
is anyone here on a macbook using safari right now
 
@Shog9 I was talking about 95% of the flags been pretty darn stupid
 
I had a question about some behavior I am seeing in the browser
 
@YiJiang Eh, that's just because I was sleeping.
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Q: Need more comment flags!

Shog9Hey, cool, the 10K tools list comment flags now! It's time to cleanse the city, Davey! Wait, only 5 flags still? Ouch. That doesn't go very far. How 'bout... 300. Or at least 40. They burn off quick...

 
5:26 PM
6 hours ago, by Yi Jiang
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@user10926 It's called "sexual intercourse", but it's not usually like that.
 
6 hours ago, by Yi Jiang
The comment flag is not the opposite of a comment upvote! You do not use it to show disagreement!!
 
@YiJiang Hell no! You use it to rid the world of idiocy!
 
@Shog9 - omg that was pretty funny
 
@Shog9 Too much idiocy - no can do
 
5:27 PM
@YiJiang To be fair, that first comment is pretty bad.
 
And anyway, most of those idiots also have their own allocation of comment flags, and are using them to remove Jon Skeet comments >_>
@Shog9 The first one, yes. The rest? Absolutely not.
 
AFAIK, it takes a whopping 6 flags to actually remove a comment. And that's assuming there are no up-votes.
Unless you're a moderator, getting rid of comments is pretty rare - flagging is more for catharsis than anything.
 
@Shog9 Can't remember, I saw that formula somewhere but I just can't find it
If you look at the comment flags, there's also a moron that's flagging people's 'This belongs on X' comments
I know it's best not to leave that comment because it can lead to dupes, but a polite comment telling the OP to not repost would surely be enough. Which moron is flagging those comments?
 
@YiJiang It's not exactly well-documented
There's this, but it's hardly authoritative.
@YiJiang not seeing those
 
@Shog9 No, that's not the right one. I specifically saw the exact formula for comment deletion
@Shog9 Those disappeared a few hours ago, think a mod cleared them or deleted them or something
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Q: "Belongs on" comments

EBGreenThis is related to this question. I think we should discourage "Belongs on S[OFU]" type comments. I think they encourage the OP to go to the indicated site and re-ask the question. Flagging/voting to move on the question should be sufficient. Assuming this is the case, would it be proper to flag ...

Hmm... there's this ^ but man... one year ago.
 
5:36 PM
@YiJiang Very good!
FLAG AWAAAAY!
 
growls at one of his servers
this damn thing has been coping accounts for like 12 hours now
 
@Josh still optimizing plus and minus sequences?
 
The thing is, there's very little conclusive policy on comment flagging
 
@radp LOL, no, that finally finished Sunday morning, then I started copying accounts from the old, dying server to the newly created one. Copy process is still going!
 
Sure there's really offensive explicitives laden ones, but those tend to disappear quickly enough anyway
Intuitively, comment flagging should work like post flagging
 
5:45 PM
@YiJiang, so I'm getting console.logs from the chat favicon script, what do you want me to do with them? (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Erm, first of all can you find the img element inserted by the script to the body element
 
@RebeccaChernoff treasure them, cuddle them and feed them jQuery cookies.
 
@YiJiang No. Jeff's argument has always been that comments are disposable. (and I've been on the other side of that argument in the past, so...)
 
@Shog9 Well, I said intuitively. It doesn't work like that in practice, of course. The problem comes when flagging something which won't cause a flag in posts
 
@YiJiang the <link> ?
 
5:47 PM
If you go back into the older posts on SO, you'll find a fair number where both the revision history and the comments were wiped clean at some point. That's why it's so important to move valuable comments into the post they're attached to.
 
@RebeccaChernoff No, part of the debugging process inserts the img element which would be used in the canvas into the body tag using appendChild
 
No revision history, no deleted list, no notification... Comments are like PostIt&trade; notes.
 
does the element have an id?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yes, hang on favicon-original is the id
 
yeah, it exists, but tis blank output. I guess the base64 data is invalid for some reason?
 
5:50 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Yes, but why... grrr... can you get me the src of that image?
 
@YiJiang: I'm an idiot.
The formula is clearly documented on the page itself...
 
@Shog9 Well, so am I then, because that most likely is where I saw it too. And that's why I can't find it on Meta
 
@Shog9 I don't think it's documented like you think it's documented, I get a page-not-found
 
@drachenstern 10k tool, kiddy :D
 
5:57 PM
@YiJiang bah, that's no fun. I still propose we play the game "give cole 10k rep for free"
 
ah, sorry man... Only 6,600 points to go!
 
I know, but I'm excited, cos that's 3k more than most users with my time-invested :p
I'm particularly proud of my MSO reps
 
that's... kinda like being proud of your Miller Lite can collection
 
Hey everyone, I'd love some advice on if I should delete my answer to a question
 
(don't get me wrong, I love Meta participation... and drinking... and Meta participation while drinking...)
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6:00 PM
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Q: How can I get the load average on Mac OS X?

JoshIn my standard .screenrc file that I use on all linux boxes, I include the contents of /proc/loadavg in the bottom status bar. However on OS X machines this file obviously doesn't exist. Is there a file or a terminal command which will give me the 1, 5 and 15 minute load averages under OS X, sim...

I posted an answer as a way to indicate how I used the code provided
but was told it was not useful, so I thinking I should delete the answer
 
@Josh No
If you'd just wrote a tutorial on screen, then yeah that'd kinda be off-topic
 
@Shog9 I get the point :p ... I'm just not that active of a user some days, and go months without messing with either site (sadly enough but its true) so I don't mind where I am.
 
@Shog9 That's what i thought. Someone didn't know what screen was, so I was showing how to accomplish what I was trying to do
 
Now, if you'd written that answer and accepted it in lieu of the one that actually helped you, that would be kinda rude. But you didn't. It sits there, out of the way, in case anyone wants it
 
@Josh leave it. All you'll be doing is increasing the sum searchability of that information.
 
6:04 PM
Yeah, I have no intention of accepting my answer
 
@drachenstern I understand - frankly, my participation (everywhere) has dropped dramatically in the past year. Just too much stuff going on elsewhere to play the game.
 
@drachenstern Ok thanks. I thought this too, just wanted to make sure I wasn't off-base here
Second question, any linux experts in the tavern today? @MichaelMrozek you awake?
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Q: Suspending my laptop breaks ethernet over firewire, are there commands which can fix it?

JoshAs mentioned in this question I am using a firewire cable to provide a private network between my laptop and my desktop, because it makes using the screen sharing program synergy much nicer than using WIFI. However when I leave my office for the day and I suspend my laptop, when I return the nex...

using synergy over WIFI is killing me
ug. see?
but I have a firefox window open on the laptop which if I close, it will kill 12+ hours worth of work!
 
@Josh You did twelve hours of unsaveable work in a browser?
 
@MichaelMrozek welcome to the world of cPanel
 
@MichaelMrozek Eh... I've lost work before using jsfiddle, but never 12 hours worth
 
6:14 PM
it's a multi-account copy process, and if I close the browser window the copy fails
it was supposed to take less than two hours
but this is the very reason I'm doing the copy. the source server is failing. badly
 
I won't even type long answers in a browser; I type them in an editor and paste at the end (take THAT, SO fraud detector)
On the other hand, browsers hate me quite a bit
 
believe me, I'm not a happy camper right now @MichaelMrozek ;-)
 
Jin's hiding in the Graphics Design room. Hehehe... go get him boys!
 
LOL
let's ask him why Unix's design isn't live yet!
 
Oh well that's easy. He asked me what was ready to go and I thought of @MichaelMrozek and said to hold off on it. q:
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6:22 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Can you paste some of the console.log's? I'd love to see them
 
Had just reloaded. Start talking and I'll let them build up a bit. (;
 
Well, we're not talking so... let's generate some talk. Or something.
 
@Rebecca I guess that by the same logic Gaming will be ready to get elections in the whereabouts of 2015?
 
@Josh I was going to wait another day or two before I bumped up my nagging to maximum levels
 
@RebeccaChernoff Hey! Why didn't you think of me?
ARGH. STUPID WIFI
 
6:27 PM
@Josh LO BATT
pets his keyboard's wire
 
Although I do have to admit, this will be a good deterrent to my chatting much today. I wonder if my productivity will increase :-)
 
@RebeccaChernoff That would be for...?
 
@Josh Hey, when you associate with @MichaelMrozek, you kinda become collateral damage.
@YiJiang I copied my console.
 
@RebeccaChernoff LOL
 
6:31 PM
Gah, this isn't helping. Grrr... okay. Let me see if I can try this another way.
(The console output isn't giving me any useful info)
 
Hey @RebeccaChernoff do I owe you a thank you for response to a blind @'d message from yeterday?
 
Well I've got other things to do so I'll look later.
@drachenstern say what now?
 
@RebeccaChernoff cos I @'d you yesterday
 
Oh yes, I did see that. But it didn't matter. WE SEE ALL
 
lmao, I bet
now you intrigue me, I'll remember to ask about that in the future ... how the SOIS team goes about "seeing all"
 
6:34 PM
Unicorns.
 
@drachenstern Jeff just buys new employees a monitor for every user on the network, and they keep each monitor tuned to a feed of that user's activity, 24/7
 
Indeed.
@MichaelMrozek would that be the reason for the new desk then? :p
 
@drachenstern Meh, our SuperProcrastinating Little Blue Mod Girl probably still haven't bought it yet
 
hey @Rebecca, now that you're SOIS staff and all, maybe you can work on getting them to award a SO tshirt to the #1 chat user?
 
6:37 PM
@MichaelMrozek That explains a lot of things, you know that?
 
@MichaelMrozek this implies that you believe @RebeccaChernoff has the ultimate power?
 
@Josh Ivo already has a tshirt I'm sure.
 
@Josh I assume you mean the #1 chat user who doesn't work for them
 
I mean I'm not disagreeing, I'm just surpriesed to hear you say that @MichaelMrozek
@MichaelMrozek well of course, I assume anyone who works for them already has shirts :-)
 
@Josh She's been told she has, it's all placebo.
 
6:39 PM
@radp Meta chat ;-)
 
Effective and cheap.
 
I can't believe I'm on the first page of chat users. I need to get out more
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Meta's all that counts anyway
 
You know what @RebeccaChernoff, just ship your computer over here, and I can debug all I want with the userscript. Whddya think? Brilliant idea, right?
 
@MichaelMrozek You could start by playing your turn.
 
6:39 PM
@YiJiang I not there's no mention of sending her computer back
 
Oh, and those monitors too. Definitely those monitors
@Josh When I finish debugging the code and create the patch. Another six to eight weeks at least, I'm telling ya!
 
@Fosco This is pathological -- my rack is IAEOEAI
I hate this game
Last game I had four Is at one point
 
@MichaelMrozek isn't that the name of a System of a Down song?
 
@MichaelMrozek Old McDonald had a farm...
 
We've all been there.. Sometimes I have all consonants.. sucks either way.
 
6:41 PM
@MichaelMrozek if you were italian, you could play AIA
alas.
 
@Fosco don't you mean: scks thr w!
 
Consumers are stupid: breitbart.com/…
> Robotic ball a hit at Las Vegas electronics show
> Sphero, as the ball is called, rolls around the floor on command, its movements controlled by an Apple iPhone or an Android device.
 
Finally, a way to take the drudgery out of golf!
 
@Shog9 ROFLOL
 
Ok, here's a reminder of why we took math for our CS programs
In vector calculus, divergence is a vector operator that measures the magnitude of a vector field's source or sink at a given point, in terms of a signed scalar. More technically, the divergence represents the volume density of the outward flux of a vector field from an infinitesimal volume around a given point. For example, consider air as it is heated or cooled. The relevant vector field for this example is the velocity of the moving air at a point. If air is heated in a region it will expand in all directions such that the velocity field points outward from that region. Therefore th...
 
6:45 PM
They need to add a launcher to the Rovio, so you can shoot it at somebody and then drive it around
 
@Shog9 What the world needs is a way to take the frustration out of golf!
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@LanceRoberts Pretty sure that's called "beer"
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Anyone know a quick way to renumber lines in VI?
 
I'm sure there is one, the key is, does anyone remember it?
I can never wrap my brain around VI
 
6:48 PM
I bet google remembers it
 
@drachenstern fascinating... I now feel guilty for not studying vector calculus
 
I like and use VIm, but never got too advanced with it. I use insert/append modes and search/replace. that's it.
 
@Fosco I think that's 98% of vim users
 
/nod
 
I've got this cool chart on the wall, but it's not cool enough.
 
6:50 PM
nano works fine for me
I don't need a chart to use nano
 
@Shog9 indeed. I have a friend studying for an electromagnetism and she linked that and I glazed over before I could start looking at the formula again :p
I understand the what and the how but I think as with all learning, it's the why that makes it useful
 
@Josh I don't need a chart to use notepad either
 
@MichaelMrozek Good, I'd be worried about you if you did ;-)
 
SublimeText is awesome.
 
@Fosco is that console based?
 
6:52 PM
@Josh Nope.. GUI.
 
Hello
@Josh You finally stumbled up a proper name!
Now we just need @drachenstern to convert..
 
@TylerChacha I pissed @Zypher off
 
Ah..
 
Proper names end in numbers. Very few of you have proper names.
 
it wasn't willing
err..
voluntary
 
6:56 PM
an he was lucky i was tired and couldn't come up with something better
 
Jan 7 at 4:09, by Zypher
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException also when chat re-syncs with meta your username will be shorter ... i ... couldn't ... stand ... it
 
I'm glad I don't tick people off..
 
ok, off to lunch, catch you guys later
 
hmmm?
chacha.com is some fail Mobile search q&a site..
 
7:04 PM
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 16 secs ago, by Coding Kitten
@YiJiang Yes it automatically adds the inviter to the mouse, and post it on so many levels
 
7:24 PM
working on multiple iOS apps simultaneously
 
don't lie. iOS doesn't multitask!
 
@Shog9 - I'm working on them on Mac OS with multiple iDevices.
@Shog9 Don't accuse me of lying!
@Shog9 Oh it does, for up to 10 minutes at a shot. Meh, for what it's worth.
 
Multiple devices? That's cheating!
 
lol
 
(redacted - oy)
realizes that editing things is better than deleting and relying on userscripts
btw, what do you call a "line" in chat?
A statement?
A "chat"?
/confused
 
7:30 PM
..A message?
 
@TimStone - ah, there we go.
No wonder I'm so bad at Wwf.
The word was evading me.
 
@DanGrossman lol, really.
What would happen if that was left on for a day or so? (plugged in of course)
I wonder if the pitch would gradually change or if anything interesting would happen.
 
I'd need a second phone to find out
 
@DanGrossman - I have an iPod and an iPhone, hah.
 
7:33 PM
Talking Carl is on Android too
 
(redacted - oy)
(redacted - oy)
 
strange
 
@DanGrossman - what?
 
You can get 8GB SDHC cards for $5-10. You can get an SD card reader for $1. Yet a 8GB flash drive costs $20-40.
Why don't they just glue SDHC cards into readers and sell them as flash drives for $10.
 
They did, but they're marking up the glue.
 
Anyone hear about the Verizon iPhone?
Bloomberg seems to be pumping it.
 
I hear it's like the AT&T iPhone, except with service.
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@Shog9 And unlimited data.
 
damn it's freaking freezing here today
I almost lost my fingers on the walk in from my vehicle
 
7:48 PM
Word
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A: How to avoid a Netbeans error with an HTML block nested in PHP if statement.

zzzzBovYour code is valid php. Netbeans may be trying to validate it as HTML, but I don't know much about netbeans. A couple suggestions: don't put white-space before php opening tags (<?php) it makes it easier to scan a file and see where the php blocks are located use the if (...): endif; blocks...

 
how goes @ircmaxell?
 
Anyone else find that code completely unreadable and a jumble?
 
> I mean, the help message from the thing is literally a dump of its BNF grammar. If you're a Russian super genius, that's probably all you need. If you're me, you cry.
 
@Josh: it goes pretty well, and you?
 
@ircmaxell It's certainly not the easiest thing to parse quickly
 
7:51 PM
@ircmaxell I'm doing well thanks
 
Good, I'm not the only one... After reading that comment thread, it seems like every loves that syntax...
 
@ircmaxell It's OK, I don't think it's completely unreadable...
 
With more than the most basic of logic, I would just stay in PHP mode and echo the HTML strings, or build up a single string and echo that
 
@DanGrossman +1 ftw.
 
I'll put it this way, if I saw that in a code review, I'd fail it.
But whatever... It looks like the bowling concept has caught on (at least for this challenge)... People from other sites are jumping in it...
 
7:54 PM
What's wrong with that code?
 
@ircmaxell how's the bowling thread going? .. i really don't think a lot of them are too hard to maintain.
 
I find it unreadable. It's hard to read the blocks without actually paying attention and exerting effort to figure out what's where...
@Fosco: true, but it's the fun in making bastardized versions of things. And seeing how convoluted people can make it...
 
programmers are supposed to exert effort to understand code, aren't they? :\
 
@Fosco: no. It should be the other way around
You're supposed to exert effort to write easy to understand code...
 
I disagree.
 
7:59 PM
-1
 
Fair enough... It's an interesting discussion to have (as long as we remain civil, which we are)
 

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