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12:09 PM
If you play a Bieber album backward you hear messages from Satan... but even worse, if you play it forward you hear Justin Bieber
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PH34R M4H Госпла́н
 
Notice how my unicode messes up the star sidebar? Phear them!
 
Nope
 
So, hm, I see a lot of posts about what to do after Delicious shuts down
but I can't find a source about Delicious shutting down in the first place
 
Delicious is shutting down?
 
12:27 PM
oh, okay, nothing official but plenty officious
eh, life on the cloud is a dangerous one
It sucks being reminded that in a Chrome OS age, everything you're using can be pulled from under your feet at any given moment for any reason whatsoever and there's jack shit you can do about it.
 
Just wait until Microsoft one day axes Microsoft Live Questions Pro Edition
(formerly known as StackOverflow)
 
But... But... I prepaid for a "premium account"! :(
 
You'll get a refund on PayPal
 
You mean Microsoft Live Payments.
Wait... Delicious has a premium account?
 
yeah!
 
12:38 PM
This sort of makes me afraid to use Flickr.
I guess there's SmugMug
 
Each time a "free service" goes down, the big enterprise take a step farther of computer free/open-anything
 
yep. Nice article
It is not easy when your users are not your customers
 
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│♦♦♦♦♦│
Do the lines align for you?
 
I see a dinosaur. Is that you?
 
12:51 PM
no, I'm the 10101 thing.
 
aaaaaaaaa
o yes, aligned :)
 
watches @belisarius run in the general direction of the dinosaur
 
G'morning.
 
morning
 
G'noon.
 
12:52 PM
G'Afternoon.
 
It's 0452 in PST now. Crazy stuff.
 
GMT+1 is the only timezone worth mentioning.
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All others are wrong.
 
Prove it
 
They are in a permanent state of misadjustment.
@belisarius it's so crystal-clear, it needs no proof.
I look out my window, I see it's 13:54
 
you are not properly defining your axioms
 
12:54 PM
People saying otherwise must be lying.
 
I have my watch in synch with most precise atomic clock in the world. And it says 10:55. Ha!
 
@radp like flies
 
@belisarius Tsk, you heatens cannot even agree on DST
and you pretend you can teach us about timezones!
 
I just ignore time outliers
 
12:59 PM
Even the guys that invented GMT in the first place use GMT+1 six months per year
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They hide it behind the convenience nickname BST
because they don't want to admit GMT+1 is that awesome.
That said, you guys are so confused about everything.
The West is to your east and the East is to your west
You guys really need to sort things out between yourselves first.
 
 
1 hour later…
2:03 PM
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Q: Stackoverflow Dream

BrettI had a dream last night that I killed a Stackoverflow question and my reputation shot up to 2450. What does it mean??

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Does anyone here not see House Whiteboard for the link fonts on programmers? (in any browser that you have hanging around)
 
it means you need a girlfriend :P
 
@CodingGorilla, I'll let you break that news to my wife... :)
 
@Benjol you want your wife to know about your girlfriend? I don't think that's a good idea ;)
 
2:10 PM
@CodingGorilla :)
 
woo, I can now see flags on chat.SE
in Programmers on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 7 hours ago, by Dan Grossman
http://shop.mattel.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4032107
Hell yeah this is offensive.
 
@radp yeah, I just fixed a bug
 
watches the power go to @radp's head
 
@RebeccaChernoff What, me? I never let that happen.
 
2:14 PM
actually -- that fix shouldn't have anything to do with you
 
@balpha It could very well be that no other flags were casted from when I gained access to my first blue 1.
 
@radp Heh.
Oh, @radp, got a link to the gaming.SE video you did?
 
(or did you mean my meta.SO video?)
 
lol
 
that's draft 5 but the comment mentions draft 6?
and i had not seen that meta video, heh
 
2:19 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Draft 6 is the one I haven't yet finished
I did not make the meta portal and sign btw
 
you should combine your gaming.SE video with this:
 
Groovy!
That is really bizarre music.
I wonder now what the Itchy & Scratchy Theme song would sound like if performed by YMCK.
 
2:35 PM
I found this video on the strangely named website flying-squirrel-attacks.com, which I stumbled upon in the Unicornify referrer logs
 
any git guru care to tell me how I can reset my working tree to look like the index?
 
2:55 PM
git please --I-am-sorry
 
The easiest way to shut down Wikileaks would be to have Yahoo! acquire it.
 
It just occurred to me why I like that picture so much.
 
Can this really be true?
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Q: Why is jQuery tools CDN link pointing to an ad?

RyanWhy is the link http://cdn.jquerytools.org/1.2.5/all/jquery.tools.min.js pointing to an ad?

that was a pretty popular link, wasn't it?
 
Yikes.
 
3:13 PM
> What type of project are you developing? Mobile, Enterprise, SaaS, Web Platform, Other.
Sign of passing time.
...who wrote this poll?
> Which languages are you proficient in? JavaScript, CSS, PHP, Python, Ruby, SQL, C#, C++, C, Perl, None, other (please specify)
@balpha Is this survey official? I saw it in an ad on the site.
That language list doesn't seem like something Jeff or Joel would write.
(Jeff would've included a joke option. Joel would've added a question about his dog.)
 
@radp yeah, that's official
 
I think Jeff already had his say with the "Do people listen to your recommendations" question :)
 
@balpha ...interesting
 
Anyway, the goal of the survey is probably to generate data for ad customers which probably dictates many of the selections.
 
@radp I just did the survey. Are the results going to be posted anywhere?
 
3:19 PM
@Pekka So they aren't interested in selling ads for Java stuff?
 
@radp Java? Never heard of that
Except at Starbucks
 
Doesn't it come with like froth and caramel and stuff?
 
Yeah and chocolate chips if you want to
 
and lots of boilerplate
 
yummy
org.chips.chocolate?
 
3:22 PM
org.java.chips.chocolate
The stack trace is
org.java.milk
org.java.cream
org.java.chocolate.chips
org.java.blender
org.java
 
@Pekka lmao
 
I wonder why I'm even at work now, heh.
 
com.starbucks.enterprise.java.customer.products.material.store.accessory.complements.chips
obviously.
 
@radp obviously!
 
Thanks @Tim!
 
3:27 PM
@RebeccaChernoff last day?
 
No. Today, Monday, Tuesday
 
You're there to do some blackhat testing obviously.
For responsible disclosure.
 
Yeah, that'd go well at a financial company.
 
well, another meeting for me to go to ...yay! :|
 
I tried pasting something and instead of containing what I wanted, my clipboard somehow contained "balpha"
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I'm suspicious
 
3:31 PM
@radp radp yeah. My stack trace was way too simple
com.starbucks.enterprise.branches.new-york.shifts.am.java.customer.products.material.store.accessory.complements.chips
com.starbucks.enterprise.branches.new-york.shifts.am.java.customer.products.material.store.accessory.complements.milk.low-fat
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@mootinator that's yours then?
 
AND because the blender is owned not by the franchisee, but the company:
com.starbucks.enterprise.assets.leasing.products.devices.store.accessory.blender.electrical
 
@Pekka almost as long as the JavaScript names for my company's products :-)
 
Gah! @radp it did it again! Just a single vote this time but I watched the meta rep climb 20 and then refreshed the page and it dropped 10. I find it really hard to believe that this many people are adding a vote and then removing it.
 
@RebeccaChernoff LOL, what's this now?
Is he playing games with you again?
We all know @radp loves games :-)
 
3:44 PM
   if $.and(i_am_rchern(), one_in(10e6))
     add_phantom_upvote();
 
@radp +1 for teh jQuery
 
@TheUnhandledException all those methods use jQuery.
 
<retracted>
 
oh. obviously.
@TheUnhandledException Thank you
 
3:46 PM
Anytime :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException It's okay, you totally didn't screw up reality. Time flows normally again now.
 
LOL
is very confused, mostly by his own edits
 
I looked away for a minute and I'm totally confused!
 
Do IDE questions go on SO or P?
 
3:50 PM
@RebeccaChernoff I'm trying to debug the fourth dimension
 
Clearly.
 
Time is incompatible with your copy of the program, so I'm fixing it.
 
@radp You can only do that from the fifth dimension.
 
Which version of time are you talking? Daylight Savings?
 
@TheUnhandledException $(".dimension-5")
@funkymushroom Quantum oscillations.
 
3:51 PM
where's webscale!
 
@Sathya You, sir, are irrelevant.
 
@Sathya LOL. How are you today?
 
(Welcome to the club!)
 
@TheUnhandledException I'm good, thanks!
@radp that, I am, Good Sir!
user image
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excellent choices!
 
I'm disappointed by the lack of joke options.
One had to choose "Other" to express his appreciation for Brainfuck.
This is clearly unacceptable.
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3:54 PM
LOL, who's this by ?
 
36 mins ago, by balpha
@radp yeah, that's official
 
:O
 
How did people find out about this survey? I thought I was spammed by every official source of SO information there is
 
@RebeccaChernoff Oh, SO is too busy teaching me about bacon powder to fit that one in
 
3:59 PM
Ah, well yes that is rather important.
 
@drachenstern Yes.
 
HELLO PEOPLE
 
@mootinator nice
 
Lists of checkboxes that contain "None" make me sad
 
Switching locations, bbl :P
 
4:03 PM
OK, was it @RebeccaChernoff or @MichaelMrozek who decided to hack my laptop just now and make it think the control key was stuck down?
I suspect @MichaelMrozek in a lame attempt to get more questions from me on unix.SE
 
@TheUnhandledException You didn't install @RebeccaChernoff's javascript virus did you? SEChatModifications.user.js?
 
oh crap
So it was a team effort, new question for unix.SE, "OMG WTF BBQ How can I uninstall a javascript virus!!!!??!!1111"
 
@TheUnhandledException, don't fall for @MichaelMrozek's lies. He's just trying to lead you off the trail.
 
@RebeccaChernoff That sounds like something a guilty person would say
 
@RebeccaChernoff There's a trail !?!? I've just been wandering amongst the pines for years now!
 
4:07 PM
@TheUnhandledException Do you prefer wild goose chases?
 
@RebeccaChernoff It's hard to soar with the eagles when I'm stuck here with the chickens...
 
Did you just call me a chicken? |:
 
@RebeccaChernoff I don't believe so (-:
OK, headed into a meeting, be back later. (I get a half day today, YEY!)
 
Hello
man .. I can see in chat history when I last said that..
 
4:15 PM
Clearly you say it too often q:
 
You guys are slacking on your anti-productivitiy production
 
Can we just assume from now on that when you join there's an implied "hello"?
 
4 pages, thats awesome
 
Awesome is one word for it
 
Wanna see something interesting?
 
4:17 PM
...wow
 
However if you just search for 'oy', its like 334
although 'Hello' is 439..
 
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A: Small avatars for ignored chat users break chat's "people in room" display

balphaYou can now savely ignore Michael Mrozek without having to fear for the sanity of the layout, and even when he leaves and re-enters, he will stay small.

:(
 
Hello beats Oy... :)
 
and there's 439 "hello" messages? your point?
 
25 secs ago, by Tyler Chacha
Hello beats Oy... :)
 
4:20 PM
In what way? Oy at least serves a purpose; Hello is like a substitute for IRC's join messages
 
Hello = HI EVERYBODY LOOK AT ME I JUST JOINED LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE q:
 
I don't know why you say oy, I say Hello.
 
has joined the channel.
has a certain timelessness to it
 
you guys deal w/ xml more than me ... is it valid to change `<key value=pair value=pair />` to:
<key
    value=pair
    value=pair
/>
 
Could someone tell me why the fark I should bother with unit testing? I already have headache.
(No answer needed, really, I'm just being rethoric)
 
4:28 PM
in 24 hours I will be on winter break with nothing to do
yay!
 
@TylerChacha lucky you. :)
Well, at least it's friday for those who won't be in winter break yet.
 
@Zypher Add new lines just to make it easier to read? Yeah, sure.
 
@RebeccaChernoff thank ... f'n xml config files ...
what was wrong with good old key=value pairs?
 
@Zypher, you mean flat files?
 
well xml is a flat file ... i mean:

key=value

is much more win than
<random_string
key.something.other=value
/>
 
4:33 PM
flat files aren't hierarchical.
Also, hierarchical is a fun word to say.
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@RebeccaChernoff most xml config files arn't hierarchical either they are just key-value pairs wrapped in the new hotness ;)
 
True. (:
 
Our system test framework at work is seriously XML-based shell scripting. To run /usr/bin/foo bar baz you do <Action><Command>/usr/bin/foo</Command><Param>bar</Param><Param>baz</Param></Action>
It's going to drive me to suicide some day
 
@Zypher Yeah, I prefer simple key/value pair files. But xml is far more standardized
 
I mean i can get down with

<container>
    <key>value</key>
    <sub-container>
        <key>value</key>
    </sub-container>
</container>
 
4:36 PM
That is still far more verbose than:
key=value
key2=value2
key3=value3
 
but what they do is <container key=vlaue key=value key=value />
 
All of those tags are a pain
 
Side note, I love how much I'm not even trying at work right now. I've done nothing work related since getting here this morning. >_<
 
@RebeccaChernoff WIN
@jjnguy yes it's still a pain but at least an easily parseable pain a 700 char container line is not ... if i had a choise key=value all the way but if it MUST be xml do it right
 
@Zypher q:
 
4:39 PM
@Zypher Ah, I see what you are saying now. Yeah, some people abuse XML. They don't understand the connotation of the structure, they just know the syntax.
 
@RebeccaChernoff It's friday, and winter break is right at the corner, I may be wrong in my assumption, but when one do the math :P
 
@Zypher q:
Huh, told me it failed but seemed to post twice?
 
@RebeccaChernoff That used to happen to me
 
@RebeccaChernoff that is totally reminiscent of Allie Brosh :p
 
Should I know who that is?
 
4:53 PM
@RebeccaChernoff She posts alot of funny blog entries
 
I'm out of stars
 
):
There's a limit on stars?
I did not know this.
 
hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/06/… <-- probably everyone in this room can relate to this one
<--- watch me quit posting links now
 
Hehe.
When you create a tag set and select all sites, new sites created after the tag set gets created are folded in, right?
@drachenstern I'm bad about caps online. ):
I don't bother alot of the time. q:
 
Hel... Hi :)
 
5:05 PM
@RebeccaChernoff I'd consider it a bug if they didn't
 
Aye. (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff :p
@TylerChacha 'allo
ffs
I shouldn't keep getting bitten by this "committed but not syncd" crap ... I'm better than an oudated CVS model :p
 
Is there something super-special about Math.SE that it's the only one with TeX support?
 
@NickT TeX.SE doesn't have TeX support?
 
Heh, unaware of that site
Was just curious if adding it to other sites is a major pain or not that bad
No idea how that magic web stuff works
 
5:20 PM
@NickT I think the theoretical CS site and physics has it too.
 
status-works-on-my-machine
status-resolved-in-theory
status-not-my-problem-anymore-talk-to-it
thinks that explains the last two hours of his life
 
@drachenstern s/it/the hand/
 
@RebeccaChernoff meh, we happen to know it's IT on site at the client that has custom header inspection rules on their firewall so ... it's an IT problem
I prefer [status-resolved-in-theory] anyways ;)
 
Oh. I was thinking it not IT
 
lol, sorry
all lowercase ftl :p
 
5:32 PM
Yey! I get the rest of the day off!
/me dances
 \O
  |\
 / \
 
hehehehe
 
(I hope everyone was watching, that was a once in a lifetime event)
 
Encore! Encore!
 
I need some more dance moves for an encore ;-)
 
5:37 PM
@TheUnhandledException I was not but the history gives me an idea what transpired ;)
 
Hi everyone ... spot the fail pastebin.com/UuFdv65Y
 
aside from the crappy wrapping?
 
@Zypher The whole thing?
 
also:
<phone1><reg /> is not correct XML
should be <phone1><reg /></phone1>
holy crap tho, I could think of like six different ways to refactor that pos
@Zypher are you asking for help or commenting on craptacularness?
 
no there is no help
just felt like sharing my pain :)
it's the config for a polycom VoIP phone
 
5:45 PM
care to help me figure out why SqlMail can send to smtp.gmail.com:587 but IIS System.Net can not?
both are using SSL
bonus points for wanting to ask about the firewall
 
can you manually send mail via telnet from the IIS box?
 
site gets negative points for telling us anything about the firewall or it's config or helping us with the network
 
oh wait .. ssl
security gets in the way of troubleshooting again
 
O the weather is outside is frightful...
But the fire inside, delightful
 
@drachenstern also it is <phone1><reg /></phone1> there are more sub-nodes in the xml i didn't feel like copying :)
 
5:50 PM
@Zypher ah ok
 
Ok @RebeccaChernoff I'll do an encore but inly because @drachenstern missed it :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException lmao, woohoo
also, you need a way to do something like this:
/--\
\0/
 /\
 
(waiting...)
 
where he's ducking his head down into his chest with his arms up in the air
I have no artistic ability
 
Sure I can work that in there :-)
I get the rest of the day off today for my birthday! Yey!
/me dances
 
5:52 PM
lol, woohoo
also, happy birthday
 
have you got that on a script or something? That would be clever, have a script that kept writing a sequence to the window for the 120s or what-not edit time ... might piss the route-maintainers off tho :S
 
/--\
\0/
 /\
 
but cute dance routine there Josh
 
5:54 PM
Bah, missed the last one, too late to edit the message, LOL
@drachenstern Clipboard copy/paste history and too much time :-)
 
Anyone have any interesting blog posts they'd like to ready?
 
Some of the magic is lost in the history view
 
lol, way too much freetime
 
@MichaelMrozek And in XMPP:
@drachenstern Just excited to have time off ;-)
 
@TheUnhandledException so when are you going to share that with the world, or is it already?
 
5:57 PM
WTF is that?'
 
if it notifies me on new posts then I'm liable to use it instead of chrome ...
 
Actually that's fairly freaky, looks like a pile of dismembered body parts.
 
And does it work cross-site chats?
 
I really want your app Josh!
 
5:58 PM
@drachenstern Or use XMPP to join: the_tavern@msochat.smart-safe-secure.com
@TylerChacha Which, the XMPP bridge?
 
Your website is being slow..
@TheUnhandledException Whatever that window is..
 
@TheUnhandledException I has no XMPP clients .. what client do you use?
that may be my general problem here
 
@TylerChacha it sure is, checking into it
@Zypher is hacking my servers again...
 
yay for a long day of debugging a sql script that's supposed to be automated
 

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