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8:00 PM
@Tim You should be
(did that notify you ~7 times? That would amuse me)
in Chat feedback, 31 secs ago, by Tim
Feature Request: Is it possible to not have the notification thing ping you if edits are made in rapid succession?
 
Tim
@MichaelMrozek It did, while I was feature requesting that it not do that!
 
I'm guessing that means yes :)
 
Tim
I started writing that on your behalf, then became selfish mid-sentence :P
 
@rchern BAD NEWS!!!!!
 
>_>
 
8:04 PM
@MichaelMrozek Nice script cheers
 
Am I the only one who often feels like, in the tech world, almost nothing ever f'ing works right?
 
@TheUnhandledException You aren't, and you know it.
 
@PopularDemand Ok Good :-)
Just wanted some confirmation!
(and a week off)
@PopularDemand I do know I'm not. i think half my team feels the same :-/
 
Tim
@TheUnhandledException Tell them to be strong. We're only 686 questions away from 1,000,000, and then everything will get better.
 
@Tim Or the world will end. I'm still not sure which.
 
Tim
8:12 PM
3
A: Why does Internet Explorer simply stop parsing in the middle of my CSS?

MatchuThe comments say you have 35 CSS files. That in itself, in addition to just being a lot of requests, is enough to be a showstopper for IE. According to Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 262161, All style tags after the first 31 style tags are not applied. This applies to all versions of IE ...

 
just a few more hours (;
 
Tim
Huh, go figure.
 
wow, 35?
 
Time for minify
 
People do the damndest things
 
8:17 PM
31 seems arbitrary tho
 
It's IE, @AidenBell
 
good point
 
arbitrary never seems arbitrary
 
Why does Yahoo suck so bad? I've missed too many lunch dates due to emails not arriving.
 
@AidenBell Perhaps it's because it's [a power of 2] - 1?
 
Tim
8:18 PM
@Fosco Because their CEO thinks that Google only does search.
 
@PopularDemand - Na it will be: MAX_STYLESHEETS=31 somwhere lol
 
@AidenBell I think that's much more likely :-/
 
@AidenBell with a comment like // 31 Stylesheets ought to be enough for anyone --billg
 
@Fosco lol
 
@Fosco // 31 stylesheets is plenty damnit, don't make me throw furniture around again -- sballmer
 
8:20 PM
@TheUnhandledException :)
 
Solaris zpools, I hate you now
>:o
 
/*
 * Bill said this was ok
 * See Bill's developer note #2,293,920,293
 */
const unsigned int MAX_STYLESHEETS=31;
ms_sch_bool_t RENDER_CORRECTLY=1; // This is actually a Schrödinger-bool
 
Tim
Let's shake fists at it angrily. While not an effective Maven-fixing strategy, maybe zpools will be less bold.
 
> msbool_t RENDER_CORRECTLY=1;
HAHA
 
8:25 PM
@PopularDemand Ah HA! That's what I need to remove in my code!
:-)
 
#UNDEF RandomlyGenerateBugs
#UNDEF SupportWindowsUnfuckers
 
k, time to drop OpenSolaris and switch to FreeBSD
 
is_odd(rand_int(2))?render():render_wacky();
 
@AidenBell More like: rand_int(1000) < 998 ? render_wacky() : render()
 
int _do_login(char* uname, void reserved1, void reserved2, void[4] reserved3){
  /* ... */
  /* teach people not to mess with reserved params on private APIs - rchen */
  if ( i_am_feeling_lucky(reserved2 % reserved3 >> reserved1 ) ){
    _fuck_domain_policies();
    return ERR_DOMAIN_POLICIES;
  }
  /* ... */
}
 
8:31 PM
@radp STOP HACKING ME AND STEALING MY CODE~!
 
@radp What? Google's in on this, too?
 
#ifdef IE9_BETA
if( rand_bool() ) {
    set_dom_attrib(current_dom_element, 'z-index', rand());
...
That actually exists
I have it on good authority
 
@AidenBell On who's authority? Clippy's?
I wouldn't trust that paperclip as far as I can throw him...
Oh wait
 
o:
 
999403
 
8:47 PM
 
...the heck is that? lol
 
Tim
One-upped, snap.
 
anyways it is 407 now
 
53 mins ago, by Michael Mrozek
while true; do python -c "import urllib, gzip, json, StringIO; print json.load(gzip.GzipFile(fileobj = StringIO.StringIO(urllib.urlopen('http://api.stackoverflow.com/1.0/stats').read())))['statistics'][0]['total_questions']"; sleep 1m; done
 
or look at this
 
8:49 PM
mine has gnome-web-photo triggering on 1,000,000
 
For when you absolutely, positively, have to sacrifice that goat at exactly the right time.
 
@PopularDemand HAHAHA
I'll bet a bunch of people in here are going to rush to post the 1M question
 
@rchern You have a real name!
 
@TheUnhandledException I like to hope the 1000000th won't be something really stupid, but I know better
 
@PopularDemand And it was what I thought it was!
 
8:50 PM
@TheUnhandledException Yeah, that was my justification a few days ago for saying that there would probably be only one "millionth question," even with deletions and such.
 
Tim
@MichaelMrozek You know it's going to be a parsing HTML with regular expressions question.
 
Your first name, anyway @rchern
 
@rchern How like you webapps people to use a web-based spreadsheet. Terminal power
 
@TheUnhandledException Okay, crossing the border into creepy, now.
 
@Tim That would actually thoroughly amuse me
 
8:51 PM
oh, haha, i guess you can see my gmail id eh? (;
 
@MichaelMrozek You mods are so parochial.
 
@rchern - Rebecca is a good name.
 
@PopularDemand Well, clearly "rchern" is a first-initial, last name combination
 
actually, somebody else posted it to the meta question
 
(well, it was clearly that to me anyway)
 
8:51 PM
@TheUnhandledException Her first name could have been R. Like how Harry Truman's middle name was S.
 
@PopularDemand I prefer words like "dedicated"
 
Or Mr T
 
@AidenBell What about Linus?
 
rchern pities the fool who posts the 1M-th question
 
8:52 PM
y'all scare me.
just saying.
 
@rchern This is a good thing
:-)
 
|:
 
You should be concerned if we didn't scare you
 
Wait, so
3 mins ago, by Popular Demand
@rchern You have a real name!
@PopularDemand you don't?
Everyone just calls you "My lord?"
 
8:54 PM
hahaha
 
@TheUnhandledException Yeah, I'm used to it by now.
 
Now I have this in my head:
 
I could get used to that pretty quickly also
@AidenBell I have flagged that as spam
;-)
 
@TheUnhandledException like a bit of Mr T "rapping" do ya?
the spam button isn't for abusing
 
8:55 PM
@PopularDemand We have a certain company member that, when asked for his official title often puts "Highness"
 
@TheUnhandledException Really? You should try it first. "My lord, the southern fields have flooded"; "The townspeople are being ravaged by plague, my lord"; "My lord, the Trents have breached the outer wall!"
 
So he gets mail for

Mr. Firstname Lastname
Highness
Digital Fruition, LLC
@AidenBell I know. I was kidding ;-)
 
And that was just last Thursday.
 
@PopularDemand Must have been a rough day!
> The townspeople are being ravaged by plague, my lord
 
Hi people
 
8:58 PM
You should be using jQuery: $('.plague').destroy()
Hey there @Moshe
 
@TheUnhandledException Where you here when I discussed my client firing?
I just replied to the reply, for all of those interested.
Hey, can a mod please fix the title here?
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Q: why do i get stack overflow (no pun intended)?

akonsuhello, below is a simple test program that throws StackOverflowException when Equals is called. i expected the generic Equals that i got from object to call my IEquatable.Equals, but it does not, it calls itself instead. why? the parameter type seems ok. why does it call the generic version in t...

Where can I see the question count ?
 
@Moshe Better now?
 
@TheUnhandledException yea
 
so what happens to the millionth question
poster ?
 
but caps in the right places would be nice.
 
9:02 PM
13 mins ago, by rchern
or look at this
 
@Moshe Try now
 
StackOverflow (no pun intended)?
 
Space between Stack and Overflow.
 
9:03 PM
Better now @PopularDemand and @Moshe?
@PopularDemand Thanks
 
999436
 
ok
how many qs r there per day avg?
 
2.03 per min
 
@MichaelMrozek i knew that
ok
 
9:05 PM
@Moshe Then why did you ask?
 
@AidenBell Aww, you cheat. I was trying to do the conversion and failing to remember how many minutes are in a day
 
i spaced out
 
@MichaelMrozek Whahahha the glory of divisible units
 
@MichaelMrozek google.com/… (http://www.google.com/search?q=1+day+in+minutes)
 
@MichaelMrozek oooh.
 
9:05 PM
So I "fired" a client yesterday by mistake and I just worked out a reply to their self-firing.
 
I smell a tone-lowering in the distance
 
@Aiden - yep.
 
@TheUnhandledException Again with the webapps!
 
wow @MichaelMrozek
 
Good Afternoon [name removed],

I apologize for the tone of my last email. I was frustrated at the lack of communication between us and hastily sent it out.

Please allow me to clarify the raise in price. It was not because of the contract and deposit. The change was a result of my lack of planning. I did not realize how long it would take. I should have given you the offer to either adjust the price or cancel the project.

I really would like to complete this project on a good note. I am willing to honor the original verbal agreement provided that the deposit is paid and the contract is s
 
9:08 PM
If you're going to break out a webapp at least use this: wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2.03+per+minute+to+per+day
 
@MichaelMrozek Yeah, well, I was in Chrome so Cmd-N, 1 day in minutes, Enter was faster
@MichaelMrozek Yes, that's better
 
any thoughts on my reply?
 
@Moshe Hmm seems alright
 
pppppppppppffffffffff
 
@Sathya - did you see the original.
 
9:09 PM
so how many questions to go yet? :)
 
> continue to wok together
 
@MichaelMrozek "Comparisons as frequency: 1.001 x The rotation of the Crab Pulsar"
 
@Moshe no, I didn't
 
@Sathya i thought i fixed that
 
Damn, not that smart: wolframalpha.com/input/… (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=date+of+question++1+million+on+Stackoverflow.com)
 
9:10 PM
Yay, I just hit 14k on SO
 
@Moshe Reading, sec
 
@TheUnhandledException File a bug report
 
556 questions to go
 
aww, I won't be awake by then.
 
@radp You lack dedication. Finally, someone else who isn't crazy.
 
9:12 PM
@PopularDemand Not my choice.
 
@PopularDemand The good news for you and rchern is, waiting for 1M has distracted us from trying to guess the chat.SO password
 
@MichaelMrozek - true true
 
@Moshe sounds great
@MichaelMrozek some of us
 
@TheUnhandledException the original or my reply?
 
Tim
@MichaelMrozek I've decided that it's equally possible that the 1,000,000th question will ask what that password is.
 
9:13 PM
I don't give a crap about 1M. I want SO CHAT!!!!
@Tim head explodes
 
oy
2
 
@TheUnhandledException did you see the original?
 
@TheUnhandledException Why?
 
@PopularDemand To create the PHP room and move The Roach Motel which will hopefully get more use over there
 
@TheUnhandledException Why is room ownership so important?
 
9:14 PM
@Moshe No, I did not
 
why do you have to be the one to create it?
 
I don't want to be the only owner
 
The language-specific rooms seem not very useful, based on the experience here
 
This is true
 
@MichaelMrozek Well, based on the experience here, none of the rooms seem useful.
 
9:15 PM
Actually, SuperUser chat also confirms that
 
@TheUnhandledException here is the origial:
 
Because I created a Mac OS room on SU chat and it's almost always empty
 
@PopularDemand this one sure isn't!! (;
 
@rchern That's what I'm sayin'!
 
Hey! I was reading that @Moshe! ;-)
(just kidding, I understand)
 
9:17 PM
I hope you had an enjoyable [jewish] holiday season season. It has been a while since we last spoke about your app.

When we originally negotiated a price, we had agreed on $600. I mentioned to you on the phone in a later conversation that $600 was well below the market price but that I would agree to work for that amount considering that I had offered that price originally and that I wanted to keep to my word. You also were concerned about updates, which I told you at the time - and you agreed - would be dealt with under a separate agreement, as is standard practice.
 
Please keep your language within reason We are all adults and don't need every single sentence moderator flagged!
That's all. Move along now.
 
@TheUnhandledException - sorry, i just reposted.
any thoughts?
 
sure
Yay! iOS 4.2 SDK beta 3 is out!
 
@Diago ... what?
 
9:20 PM
@PopularDemand and @rchern Here's what I'm feeling: Room ownership isn't that important, but good stewardship is. I think that with good room owners we can build a community around some of these rooms, and that's what I aim to do.
 
Nobody said anything offensive, unless it was in the last two minutes.
 
Offensive is in the eye of the defender
 
I'd like to find a number of experts and make them all room owners
 
@TheUnhandledException You already got chat, don't you?
 
@Moshe This is the first draft?
Or was that already sent?
 
9:22 PM
@TheUnhandledException - no, that was what I sent him
Then he replied
 
Sanitize first @Moshe :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException - ?
His reply:
Firstly I apologize it just matter of being bz miscommunication from my end.

Makes absolutely no sense cause of no deposit to jump the project price to , $1, 700.

I would have understood if u said u won’t proceed unless u get depot but where does 1+1 = 2 here.

In this case il pass sorry I don’t work like this.
Then mine, which you've seen
 
Sounds fair...
 
@Moshe I'd be hesitant to work for anyone with such poor language skills.
 
@PopularDemand Excellent point
I'd also be hesitant to work form someone without a deposit
No, wait, our company policy is we do not work without a deposit
:-)
 
9:24 PM
@PopularDemand - I understand. It's sent from his mobile and considering that I know about his background somewhat, i can understand that.
@TheUnhandledException You are right, but I'm a student and I enjoy the work.
@TheUnhandledException - but I do agree on that - deposits are required from now on.
 
@Moshe Seems (to me) like it's more than a mobile phone thing. But, I am also considering blocking communication between my clients and my company if they use mobile phones
 
@TheUnhandledException Ok, I'm not going to get into that language skills thing then. Forget that part for now.
 
I get too many emails that I want to respond, "STOP DRIVING AND CONCENTRATE ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE WASTING BOTH OUR TIME!!!"
:-)
 
I gotcha.
 
@Moshe Maybe I'm tainted in my view ;-)
 
9:26 PM
So now I wait and see what he has to say.
 
Good luck @Moshe!
 
Seriously, is $600 for an iOS news feed app too little?
 
Can't discuss that, borders on price fixing
 
I can't believe how poorly the Subclipse icons are documented!
 
It took a bajillion hours thusfar and I need to learn core Data.
 
9:27 PM
Price fixing is an agreement between participants on the same side in a market to buy or sell a product, service, or commodity only at a fixed price, or maintain the market conditions such that the price is maintained at a given level by controlling supply and demand. The group of market makers involved in price fixing is sometimes referred to as a cartel. The intent of price fixing may be to push the price of a product as high as possible, leading to profits for all sellers, but it may also have the goal to fix, peg, discount, or stabilize prices. The defining characteristic of price fi...
 
@TheUnhandledException - what does that mean?
I'm just looking for going rates so I don't cheat myself or the client.
I don't have much real world experience and I want to know what people charge for various things.
 
From what I've read, it's not acceptable to talk prices in online forums... but IANAL and all that crap. Can anyone else confirm/deny this?
15 mins ago, by rchern
oy
 
@TheUnhandledException is this even considered a forum?
 
@rchern AGAIN a star for "oy"!
 
@TheUnhandledException - that would be me!
 
9:29 PM
AHAHAHAHAHA
yesterday, by The Unhandled Exception
We really will star anything won't we?
@Moshe This may be a better discussion for NPR
 
oy oy
 
@TheUnhandledException NPR? - EDIT: Oh, I gotcha I've asked, but I get shut down there too.
 
Apparently, pricing is too localized and the SO mentality of no conversations reigns there as well.
 
@Moshe I mean, what pricing talk is accepatble/legal
 
9:32 PM
@TheUnhandledException Who implements those laws? The US federal gov't? Statewide?
 
BTW, SO chat is supposed to be much less lulz and much more serious business right? :P
 
@Moshe You're asking questions outside the realm of my knowledge :-) All I know is, when I first started programming as an independent contractor many, many years ago, I got shafted for asking about pricing online and have steered clear of it ever since
@radp Yes. This is a good thing
 
@TheUnhandledException Shafted by an employer?
 
@TheUnhandledException No! It sucks.
 
@Moshe By everyone else on forums I asked
@radp luls here. work there
 
9:34 PM
You don't have any lulz in your workz?
Grim :/
 
Tim
@Mosche I think price fixing in the United States is covered under the Sherman Antitrust Act, if I remember correctly. Not sure what other associated laws there may be, though.
 
@TheUnhandledException Well, I'm asking. Shaft me if you want, but I still need to find out.
 
Logical question - how do you learn what to charge?
 
@radp I do. I'll find comments in my code I posted weeks ago and repost :-)
@Moshe Ah, a big difference
 
Tim
9:35 PM
@Moshe I got a CEO to do that work for me. ;)
 
"How do you learn what to charge?" -- OK
 
@Tim - And how exactly are just two independent freelancers a trust?
 
"How much should I charge?" -- Not OK
@Tim Likewise :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException Ok. Fair enough.
 
@Moshe To answer this question: It's a bit trial and error. Do some market research. Determine what your costs are. Find an hourly rate which pays what you feel you're worth
 
9:36 PM
@TheUnhandledException - What will someone be prepared to pay me
 
@TheUnhandledException - How do I do market research? Surveys? Trial and error?
 
as an alternative.
 
@AidenBell Yes, a good example
 
@TheUnhandledException - hmmm ... no deal
 
@TheUnhandledException star for a smile.
I see.
 
9:37 PM
Wait. I'm confused :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException - ?
How so?
 
@AidenBell 50 MSO rep points an hour?
 
999,507
 
@Moshe Because I edieted out what you starred, LOL
I just restored balance to the universe
 
@TheUnhandledException hmmm .... no deal
 
9:38 PM
Ah, ok
 
@ChrisF THE END IS NEAR!!!!
 
I may have another question, but I'm going to ask here first.
Anyone ever dealt with 1and1 ?
 
yes
lame
 
I hear good things unless @AidenBell is speaking
:-)
 
My MySQL connection string returns this:
Could not connect: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
why?
 
9:40 PM
@AidenBell Tell me some bad things to balance out what I have heard before?
 
Fix it for me :-P
 
1&1 ... their CS sucks, and for typing this I will probably get the bailiffs round in 24 hours.
Also, their cloud setup is uber slow because they seem to cram too many people onto one server
 
@AidenBell - I got two stuttering young Indian fellows. I'm not racist against indians, but please - if you work the phones, don't have a stutter. I have no problem with their accent. There was an additional stutter.
 
0
Q: Regex to match 010101

fastcodejavaIs it possible to have a regex to match a string like that? It can end in 0 or 1 and length is arbitrary.

 
9:40 PM
Sounds racist to me
 
@AidenBell - I mant the stuttering.
 
Their stutter is nothing to do with the fact they are Indian
 
Tim
@PopularDemand Yeah, I saw that just now too...heh.
 
or young
 
@Tim Someone should tell the OP he's a bit too early yet for the millionth question rush.
 
9:42 PM
999518
 
I gtg my ride leaveth.
I'll return soon.
 
Tim
@PopularDemand Maybe he's just getting warmed up?
 
@AidenBell -And seriously, I'm not racist.
 
@Moshe bring lolz
 
> @Lord Torgamus: Yeah, what he's asking is very confusing. Maybe if he posted a Regex showing what he wanted, it would be more clear? ;-)
Too sarcastic @PopularDemand?
 
9:42 PM
@Tim Yeesh. Where's Jeff's poor-quality question detector when you need it?
 
probably too sarcastic. Comment abandonded
It's been a long day :-/
 
Tim
@PopularDemand He hasn't found a good name for it yet.
 
@AidenBell Interesting - I'm still seeing 999,507. So the 1,000,000th question will be disputed
 
@Tim Heck, we can take care of that! If there's one thing we're not hesitant about doing here, it's giving SE features ridiculous names.
But if we do it, will he start using it more?
 
Tim
Only after we reach one million questions.
 
9:45 PM
@Moshe Later!
 
I handed realised the other sites were so far behind SO in the number of questions.
SU has 55k and SF only 53k
 
999522 thanks to @MichaelMrozek's API Python-fu
 
@AidenBell That's cheating
 
1 hour ago, by Michael Mrozek
while true; do python -c "import urllib, gzip, json, StringIO; print json.load(gzip.GzipFile(fileobj = StringIO.StringIO(urllib.urlopen('http://api.stackoverflow.com/1.0/stats').read())))['statistics'][0]['total_questions']"; sleep 1m; done
 
Real men parse JSON with jQuery.
 
9:47 PM
@radp Python --> jQuery --> JavaScript --> Assembly --> magnetic needle and a steady hand --> butterfly?
 
All boils down to the same rubbish anyway
disheartened with programming
 
Do we have any psychic users?
 
@ChrisF - For us lazy ones ... script above, forgot ping
 
1
Q: Snippet Keystroke/Shortcut in Eclipse

tkeE2036So I was using Eclipse and I went to go copy some import statements I had selected but I somehow miss-typed and the coolest thing happened: A snippet package was created and a class Snippet.java was created which looked like this: package snippet; public class Snippet { public static void m...

 
0
Q: Is there software/a script that can automatically create class structures for PHP scripts?

kamikaze_pilotI know that PHPDoc exists, but phpdoc wants you to put comments in your PHP files so that it can parse them... What I want is something different: Suppose that I have 10 PHP classes... all I want is a script that can read those classes and automatically generate a representation of those class s...

Can't PHPdoc do that even without comments?
 
Tim
9:54 PM
@PopularDemand Hm, I don't see any default key bindings for that, but maybe I'm just missing it.
 
I'm on an editing kick again...
 
Tim
0
Q: Writing a number in an array that has the same number of counts like the number

CindyHi, I am working on a paging function. This is what I have: $total_pages = 3; // 3 is only an example foreach ($total_pages as $single_page): echo 'Page'.$single_site->number.'|'; endforeach; How can I write the number of pages in array that I can use in my foreach function? The number o...

I wanted to edit the title too...but I'm having a hard time deciphering what it's supposed to say, heh.
 

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