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2:16 PM
@balpha you said algo is same. "We have improved the revision diff algorithm."
 
summons Crickets
 
so sue me for simplification
 
@TimStone ...
 
:)
 
summons Crickets
:(
 
2:19 PM
@balpha it wasn't meant to be offensive. So did you or not?
 
there are three steps: 1) parsing the old and new revision into tokens, 2) comparing/diffing the two token lists, 3) turning the output of the comparison back into HTML, with the changes highlighted.
1) and 3) were changed, 2) is identical
 
Ah, thanks for detail explain :) and sorry if it was offensive for you
 
@genesis Precisely, how much coffee do you drink during an average day?
 
@TimPost I do not drink coffee nor beer. Sometimes I drink
I've got one still in my bag
Why?
 
Ahhh. I was just curious. I've never been able to keep my head in programming for more than a few hours at a time without a break
But darn it, those few hours are magical!
 
2:32 PM
Okay. I've got no problems with helping in answering questions, but when it comes to upgrade my browser game, I can keep my head on for 2 hours maximally
 
Ahahahahahahaha!
(German speakers only, sorry)
 
Ahhhhh, 3 days to next gold badge
 
A 19 years old girl is selling a three-month slot in her "in a relationship with" box on Facebook.
 
sorry but xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
 
The package includes weekly posts on your wall, frequent chats (she's a very good listener), comments on posts and pictures, etc. ... no real-world contact, no sex.
Well, if there's a market for it, I can't help but take my hat off to a good business idea! :)
 
2:36 PM
I saw "sexuellen" and thought it was a bit more than that ;)
 
still, 30E? Bargain.
 
30€ lol
 
We'll see what the end price ends up being. It's ending this evening.
 
Summon @TimPost
I bet this one "invalid flag" will be marked as disputed
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A: HTML - posisble to have input type="image" without src attribute?

Robert MartinOne option is to make the source of the image be a 1x1 clear pixel PNG. It's quick and dirty, and it will most likely work. You may even already have such a file that the site is downloading. If, however, you don't want to add another HTTP request, perhaps you can set the source to be your image...

 
2:40 PM
NIAGARA FALLS??? .. slowly I turned ... step .. by step ... .. I mean, huh?
@genesis Yeah, that's technically an answer (e.g. , no need for a moderator to intervene)
 
invalid flag – 4 mins ago disputed
 
Sorry, the probability of many here appreciating old Three Stooges humor being quite low escaped me for a moment.
 
Nyuk nyuk nyuk
 
I'm seriously considering changing my MSO name / gravatar to Shemp
If I do that, people should expect me to poke them in both eyeballs when they complain about their flag weight :)
 
> If I do that, people should expect me to poke them in both eyeballs when they try to sell their iPad :)
FTFY
 
2:55 PM
RRRRRRRRRRRAEG I LOST FLAGWIEGHTH BECAUSE ONE GOT MARKED INVALIDDDD GRRRAJDSK.
Seriously, it's no big deal.
It's not all about the flagweight.
It's all about the Pentiums, Baby.
"It's All About the Pentiums" is a song by "Weird Al" Yankovic. It is a parody of "It's All about the Benjamins (Rock Remix)" by Sean "Puff Daddy" Combs and focuses on the narrator's obsession with his computer's hardware. Track listing The following tracks are on the single: # "It's All About the Pentiums" – 3:34 # "The Saga Begins" – 5:28 # "The Saga Begins" (Music video) The promo single only contains "It's All About the Pentiums". Writing Al spoke to Puffy personally on the phone to make sure that the parody wouldn't emulate the 1996 Coolio incident. Yankovic has admi...
 
Then again, I've never seen such a huge amount of programmers trying to gain weight, ever.
 
hehe
 
lol
 
Reference:
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Q: Why does flag marking as helpful/declined not always correlate with moderator action?

Won't ಠ_ಠI flagged a post and (choose one) my flag was marked as helpful, yet nothing was done my flag was marked as declined, yet the post was deleted/edited/closed Why?

 
 
1 hour later…
4:14 PM
So what's this I hear about a party at Marc's house where @RebeccaChernoff will be catering? ;)
And with that, it's lunch time.
 
wonder if @RebeccaChernoff will serve the food backwards too
 
4:36 PM
oy
 
It takes that long to get a response? Oy indeed. ! (:
 
@jcol? are you still working on that chat?
 
That depends on what exactly you're asking.
Have I written new specs or code in the past two weeks? No, life has happened. Are we currently improving the code hosted on stackchat.raynos.org? No.
 
Okay.
@jco will it be improved?
 
4:54 PM
sorry, got interrupted:
Am I pursuing new development and drafting ideas with pen and paper for the next version? Yes.
 
Hahaahhaha
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A: DevDays 2011 - straw poll - one day or two?

doveZero Days - $263. Vote for this if you booked for a conference and have non-refundable airline tickets and/or accommodation in an expensive city such as San Franciso, Washington or London.

 
@EatmoreTwisters :D
 
I know it's not funny for those who actually lost money in this, but I lol'd.
I hope they give out some kind of recompensation to those who have non-refundable transport or hotel tickets.
 
I doubt that, but hope they do sort out something.
> On the bright side, I now know what Apple early-adopters must feel like
heh.
 
5:12 PM
The world needs a "how to do shit" site.
It would contain chapters like
"How to debug shit"
"How to properly write shit"
etc. you get the drift.
The site would be a valid dupe-closing target on SO.
So we could close every question like this: stackoverflow.com/questions/7337787/css-sometimes-isnt-loaded
As a dupe of some sub-chapter on that site.
Wikipedia, SO and that site would make a great trinity on the Internet sky.
@Sathya hahaha!
 
@EatmoreTwisters ... and bang on the Apple remark, look who posted the linked question :p
 
@Sathya I don't think I'm getting it, can you elaborate?
 
@EatmoreTwisters Gruber, known Apple blogger/apologist/fanboy/supporter ( can pick any or all)
 
@Sathya I see, thanks! :)
 
@EatmoreTwisters welcome!
With that, I'm off. Have a good one!
 
5:32 PM
@Sathya yeah, you too! See you later.
 
@Sathya There's some good that came from John Gruber at least :)
 
6:35 PM
@EatmoreTwisters Convenient that I was driving and the hotel had a 48 hour cancellation policy. :P
I'll still be driving down anyway I imagine, since I told a friend I'd come for a visit.
 
I'm hoping to attend the DC one... haven't made any plans yet.
 
They are.
Though supposedly they might have some mini-shindig in D.C. still, so if that plays out and I'm down there anyway I'll hop on over, buy balpha a beer and what not.
 
ohhh....
my bad. i didn't get the '0 days' joke.
 
@TimStone I'd like to see the same in London. Is there some Meta thread open for that kind of stuff already? Otherwise, I'll start one
@Fosco yeah, that was for real :)
But that doesn't sound like the right place to ask around who might be in London anyway
 
6:44 PM
I don't believe so. I only know that they mentioned in the blog that they were having a company meeting in D.C. and might throw a bit of a public event while they were at it, despite the cancellations.
 
That's very much up in the air, as is it even being at the same time if it happens. I believe.
 
In the air? A party on a private jet? That's pretty cool. ;)
 
I'm a bit hesitant to start a discussion about starting a small-scale alternative event because I couldn't contribute anything to a London Meetup but my promise to be present... Unless the London visitors would be willing to make a detour to southern Germany, which I doubt.
Hmm.
 
Oddly enough I've never been to Germany, only through its airports.
 
6:47 PM
Well, you're always welcome! It can be really nice.
An alternative event might be a consolation for those who have non-refundable travel and/or accommodation already booked and paid for, and I need to do some things in London anyway some time this year, so I'm considering to go anyway, even though I haven't booked anything yet.
 
Hang out in a pub, burn through the refunded conference fee.
 
@TimStone something like that, exactly.
I think I'll start a MSO question and we'll see whether anything accumulates over the next weeks.
 
@EatmoreTwisters Are you sure? It's England, they like their beer warm. #clichesmakemyliferich
 
@balpha true. Apparently, they also like to burn things.
Maybe not such a good place to go to after all.
Seriously though, @balpha, you're not planning to be in the UK around that time?
13 hours ago, by Eat more Twisters
Everyone in favour of holding an alternative conference at Marc's place, say aye!
 
@EatmoreTwisters probably not; that falls between my two weddings (Standesamt & Kirche -- I hate the term "city hall wedding")
 
6:55 PM
3 hours ago, by Tim Stone
So what's this I hear about a party at Marc's house where @RebeccaChernoff will be catering? ;)
 
@EatmoreTwisters Wow, I know you're kind of a big deal, but I didn't realize you had authority to unilaterally decide who is and isn't welcome in southern Germany!
 
@balpha mmm, too bad! But congratulations to getting married!
 
thanks :)
@PopularDemand Everybody is welcome in southern Germany, except for northern Germans
 
@PopularDemand I am kind of a big deal around here. I try to keep it down among the SO community so they'll judge me by my contributions and not my political status
 
> falls between my s/to/two/ weddings
you're getting married twice? (:
 
6:56 PM
@balpha hey, I didn't know about that either. Congratulations!
 
@balpha It's like the Belgians, but rotated 90 degrees?
 
@RebeccaChernoff city hall & church, as you say over there
 
@PopularDemand it's interesting how it's always the souths of countries that have a reputation of being... less than welcoming to strangers, isn't it?
And it's almost always true, as well.
Except for Finland, where it's the people up north.
 
@EatmoreTwisters wait what?
 
just ask the Koreans :p ... oh wait
 
6:59 PM
@EatmoreTwisters The southern US is famous for its "southern hospitality."
 
Here in The South we are probably the warmest people you know
 
I've never heard of any north-south-based stereotype for any other country.
 
And it's "The South"
we don't take lightly to being called merely "the south"
;)
 
@jcolebrand hey, I'm from a South too! :)
 
this is me sticking my tongue in my cheek and going to get food ;)
 
7:00 PM
I know perfectly what you guys mean. But the outside perception is usually... mixed.
@balpha hahaha!
 
I wonder if Joel is going to see a significant increase in people being registration-gun-shy for DevDays 2012/2013/20wheneverthenextoneis.
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@PopularDemand I'm sure he will.
I would also very much like to see them somehow do something about those who have non-refundable travel and accommodation booked.
 
@EatmoreTwisters Indeed, I've been thinking about that ever since I heard the news.
 
I have no idea what kinds of money that would imply refund-wise, but they need to do something.
 
Blah.. just read the blog post. That's unfortunate.
 
7:11 PM
@Fosco yeah, it really is.
 
@EatmoreTwisters did you see I pinged you about SO scraping?
 
@Fosco no, hold on, I'll look for it
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Q: DevDays cancelled - should we have a London meetup anyway?

Eat more TwistersAs we all know, DevDays 2011 has been cancelled. Now, I hope for everyone who already booked their travel and accommodation that they get their money back somehow. But for those who a) won't get refunds, or b) wouldn't have to travel that far, or c) are in the city anyway around that time, would...

 
I was able to pull down a page as if I was logged in, but if you want to download all the graphics, styles, etc... I think there's an easier way, just using a 3rd party mirroring tool which allows you to set a cookie.
Basically open the dev tools, find the usr= cookie and just use that in the other program. (i wrote a node js script which pulled the page using my cookie)
@EatmoreTwisters I think you'd be able to use this: httrack.com/page/2
 
@Fosco yeah, I had something like that (or wget --page-requisites) in mind! But the tough thing is the OpenID login, isn't it?
At least if you want to automate the process
To the point that you have a web page to feed a question ID to, and automatically store it at the predefined location somewhere on the web.
@Fosco ah, I overread that, sorry
 
if you already have a logged in session, you can copy that session cookie and use it.
 
7:22 PM
@Fosco true. Maybe making this completely automatic is too much work
And not necessary in the first place.
Seeing as it's not being that many questions anyway.
 
I'm reading the docs, and now not seeing where to put a cookie on HTTrack..
 
@Fosco yeah, but this is definitely a good way to go! If HTTrack can't do it, maybe wget can.
 
@EatmoreTwisters halfway down the page on wget's wiki article it shows how to use cookies... that's a winner.
 
@Fosco excellent, thanks. I'll be looking into that!
 
you only need the usr= cookie, fyi.
its like this: usr=t=BLAHBLAH&s=BLAHBLAH
 
7:27 PM
> i is a the "control variable" or the "counter". - Prof. Cogan
 
@Fosco right, cool.
My initial idea was to make this completely automated, as in, you have a web interface to slurp deleted questions.
But that would require a 10k+ user's credentials hard-coded into the system....
 
> i can also be called the index.
 
.... which is a bad idea and as far as I know, has no secure alternative. I think I'll go the half-automatic route using wget.
 
yeah i think that's the best option...
 
The last time I hand wrote code was sixth grade.
@Fosco, @EatmoreTwisters, what are you two plotting?
My teacher just asked us to trace a loop that prints "Hi" 5 times.
 
the podcast was just posted and talks about devdays a bit too
 
cool
 
I'm off, later everyone!
 
7:56 PM
@EatmoreTwisters Tshüß!
 
 
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9:07 PM
@Moshe what is the context to this?
 
 
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11:57 PM
Hm, I hate when I go from not being hungry to absolutely starving. Not enough lead up time to have food ready in advance, heh.
 
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