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12:09 AM
we should have a data center in Washington DC. A Washington DC DC.
 
Running on DC power. A Washington DC DC DC.
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I wonder what UPS calls their UPS.
 
When is the last time the Area 51 process changed?
 
@TimStone I feel like you would have to be listening to "Back in Black" in a place like this.
 
I checked through , but it seems that almost everything is from 3 years ago or somesuch.
 
12:17 AM
@jmac Never since its inception, most likely. What kinda changes are you talking about?
You might also want to check discuss.area51 - A51's own "meta".
 
@AnnaLear Ah, I'll take a look at that. I was thinking about manners in which the new site creation process had changed over time (if it had)
@AnnaLear Had a discussion on one of the proposals about the poor quality of the questions in regards to attracting experts, and was told by a more veteran user that "The questions in the definition phase don't matter, and the goal is just to vote up as many to 10 as possible to make it to the next step."
 
@jmac If that's how that user is viewing it, they're screwing themselves and their proposals over.
 
It's a chicken and the egg thing.
 
Yeah. It's always hard to predict how a site will be used, so example questions sometimes don't end up actually asked on the site.
On the other hand, a proposal with really crappy example questions won't get passed for launch by us. You gotta balance how you game the system very carefully. ;)
 
You need to collect "critical mass" to get the required votes to move the process along, but the easiest way to do that is to get non-experts interested in the topic to participate, which means bad questions a lot of the time.
 
12:32 AM
We can and do shut down proposals that are full of people who are just curious about the subject. Not because they're not experts per se, but because it tends to show in the quality of the site.
 
So you end up with oh-so-awful questions like, "What are typical road speed limits in Japan and how are they enforced?" and "Is there a minimum wage, for both full-time and part-time jobs?" which are easily answered on wikipedia and aren't something that experts are going to want to answer.
 
Eh, those aren't so bad.
 
They aren't?
 
Well, they aren't the best questions you could possibly ask, but they do help define the scope of what kinds of questions would go on the site.
As opposed to, say, "what color do Japanese people like most".
 
See, but that's the kicker -- I don't think that's a good scope for the site as someone who would be considered an 'expert' on the proposal.
 
12:36 AM
That's fair.
 
When you see the types of questions that get asked on forums, they would be awesome questions that even long-term residents would be interested in answering.
 
I'm not an expert. Heck, I don't even know which proposal we're talking about. :)
 
Sorry, it's this one
Which isn't very clear on audience, mind.
So perhaps they don't want to have me as an expert.
My general point is that as someone who has participated in forums on the subject of living in Japan, there is a huge demand for straight answers to questions that are asked every year.
And there are people out there willing to answer.
And that's what SE is supposed to be about. But as-is, unless I personally request all of my friends to come and sign up to SE just for this single proposal, it will die of natural causes before ever becoming a site to fill the void that's out there.
(and that makes me really wonder about the process)
 
The fact that you're thinking about it like that tells me that the process is more or less working as intended. :) If you aren't interested in signing up for the proposal in its current state, then perhaps it's not suitable for launch. Or perhaps it can be adjusted. Or there will be room for both basic questions and more advanced type stuff.
Looking through the questions, I think the ones voted to the top right now are comparatively better than the rest. They may turn out to be too basic, but there's a long way to go before we (internally) are going to worry about that - right now there aren't even enough followers to theoretically make the proposal eligible for the commitment stage.
 
@AnnaLear Yeah, but having basic questions prevents people from wanting to sign up for a site they don't participate in anyway. It's a chicken and the egg sort of issue.
The way that proposals work is that they are generated from within the SE network, when experts on non-technology proposals are usually not already within the SE network. This creates an issue where the momentum for any proposal is driven by non-experts, which has a large chance of driving away experts.
 
12:50 AM
Yeah, I can't really argue with that.
 
I think it would be so much better the other way around, where I could grab 100 questions from existing forums on the topic, ones that I know are asked and answered frequently, and have those become the base for a proposal since it would be easier to bring the users from the forum to SE as a base of experts and power users.
 
@jmac You can submit example questions. Where you grab them from is up to you. :)
And if a community forms around your suggestions, great.
 
I did submit questions, but I am rate limited in how many I can submit which means that I don't have much of a voice to actually shape the site in to an audience I know would have a use for an SE site answering those questions
 
Rome wasn't built in a day and neither are communities.
 
People make proposals based on what they personally want to see, rather than what there is actually a demand on the net for. And that lack of focus from the start makes it harder to refocus a proposal later. Having multiple duplicates of overlapping communities isn't going to help reach critical mass either.
 
12:54 AM
@jmac Yes and no. You are making it sound as if it's completely impossible to launch a viable proposal, and yet... stackexchange.com/sites :)
There certainly have been a few proposals where the topic itself was fine but the people who turned up were wrong. That's all part of the process.
 
Note that a vast majority of the sites are: 1) related to technology, 2) related to daily life (things that anyone deals with), 3) have overlap with people working in technology (math, physics, etc.)
 
If this proposal doesn't succeed for whatever reason, there's always an opportunity to start a new one. (Honestly, with this one being in definition for 9 months, I don't have high hopes for it coming together, although I've been known to be proven wrong on that before.)
 
Perhaps I'm just looking at it the wrong way? I see a need, I see plenty of communities addressing that need in a way that SE is designed to improve, and I think it should be easier to move those communities to SE. The current process definitely doesn't work that way though
 
@jmac I think you may be overthinking it a bit. You're taking the example questions literally, whereas they're intended to showcase the kinds of things one would ask about. So, right now questions about how Japan works, for lack of a better phrasing, are at the top and more subjective not-really-about-Japan questions are at the bottom. This is good.
These questions are defining which direction the "on topic" questions would go in. Not necessarily the level of the questions. A healthy site typically has a mix of basic and advanced posts.
 
The questions are defining a site that the experts out there wouldn't want to participate in. Isn't that a problem?
 
1:00 AM
Can you give me an example of a question that you think would attract experts?
I'm literally ignoring what the question is saying or how it's phrased. I'm just looking at what its general purpose is.
 
"What are the rules for refunding pension payments for a US citizen?"
 
Okay, great. $10 says that's documented somewhere as well. How is that different than, say, "Should I tip for good service in restaurants? If so, how much?"
 
"What is the process for getting married to a Japanese national?"
 
Those are good questions that still fall in the same general category - questions about how Japan works.
 
The thing is that there isn't great documentation for the first question, whereas the fact that you don't tip in Japan is self-evident after a day here.
 
1:02 AM
Compare that with "How often should a futon be aired out?". I don't even know how that got 10 upvotes.
 
That's why there are a half-dozen Japan-related forums on the internet, where that question gets asked with disturbing frequently.
(that question referring to the pension refund)
 
@jmac Right. I'm a Russian Canadian living in New York City. I don't want to spend a day in Japan trying to figure out cultural norms by trial and error. I want to learn about things like tipping up front.
 
Right, but if the question is for visiting Japan, then it belongs on travel, no?
 
> Proposed Q&A site for people living in, and travelling to, Japan.
 
So I should start a separate proposal for "Living in Japan"?
 
1:04 AM
I'm going by that description. If this is a site about immigrating to Japan or coming on a work visa, etc. then the description needs to be ironed out. As it is right now, the questions proposed so far seem pretty legitimate to me.
@jmac My first instinct would be to tell you to try and engage the existing followers in a discussion on A51, but I see you already did that and basically got crickets.
 
Yep.
The most vocal people are ones who want a site where experts will come and answer their questions, not the ones created by experts who know what questions are regularly asked and want to help make a better resource to answer them.
 
My advice for the moment is to continue to try shaping this proposal - add the questions you think are better, promote it amongst the folks you know who would be interested in participating in the site you want to build. Not all is lost here. :)
And if that proposal gets closed, it'd make sense to recreate it then.
 
I don't really think that'd be a wise move on my part. If you invite people to participate in something that is headed toward failure, you are wasting their time as well.
And if the proposal gets closed, and you ask them to help again, they will be less willing to spend their time (especially if their goal is to help people)
 
And we're back to the chicken and egg thing. It's probably headed for failure if it stays on its current course. If you spend the time to try and turn it around, it might still fail. Or it might succeed. There are no guarantees here, unfortunately.
 
There are currently 50 followers who may agree with the current definition as vague as it may be. I could probably bring 20 experts in who would want to reshape it. If those 20 reshape it in to something else, and the 50 disagree, what happens?
 
1:12 AM
You need 200 people in the commitment stage. These 50 won't matter. Or they'll still be around - like I said, your direction doesn't seem that different to me. I don't see why the existing followers wouldn't support it. They probably came up with a few easy questions to start things off. Now they could use a few more advanced ones. This doesn't need to be a one-or-the-other kind of deal.
Asking questions is hard no matter what. Coming up with questions to ask is even worse. What you attribute to people wanting a casual and wikipedia-sourced site is probably just a lack of knowledge or access to the forums you seem to frequent.
Or a lack of forethought.
 
200 people is a huge hurdle then...
2/125 million Japanese are foreigners. A majority of those (1.6 million) are Asian (Chinese/Korean mostly, 1.1 million). 63k from North America. 58k from Europe.
 
It is. Which is why we started looking at other ways to "prototype" new sites, but that unfortunately got stalled and pushed back more or less indefinitely at this point.
 
Yet there are plenty of forums that are able to sustain themselves despite this. Which perhaps means it isn't a good topic for SE.
 
I kinda hope to get back to it next year, but I can't make any promises.
 
(well, it is a good topic for SE, just not for the current process)
I suppose I'll wait until next year then and see what happens.
 
1:21 AM
We also have some rather niche sites right now (like Tridion), but to be fair most of those are tech of some kind.
 
Yeah, tech is easy -- tons of overlap with existing SO users.
 
Depends on the tech, but yeah. So long as those sites can muster up a core community, they're pretty much all set. Might never get the momentum to grow big and graduate, but that's also not strictly speaking necessary.
 
Is there a specific reason that proposals were set up as they are, rather than allowing proposals to be a closed beta confined to Area 51 and seeing how it grows organically?
@AnnaLear At any rate, apologies for taking so much of your time -- I'll probably try to wrap it up in a meta post just to keep it lying around somewhere (though I know no action would be planned, I prefer having it for my own reference and perhaps someone in the community has a brilliant idea)
 
@jmac Not sure, to be honest. That's way before my time. I think the goal was to vaguely define the scope of a site, gather an initial following (a lot of SE1.0 sites failed because they didn't actually have anyone showing up), and then take it for a spin.
@jmac No worries. This is what I'm here for. :)
 
I think that SE 3.0 may want to consider having the firm definition as the base, and then work on committing once that is set (perhaps with sample questions allowed to have answers provided, to help people in the process of developing the site)
 
1:30 AM
That's a possibility. I think that sites and communities are far too fluid to allow for fully nailing down a scope during a hypothetical definition phase, but it may be worth trying out just to see how it works compared to what we have now.
 
At least allowing people to post question bodies would be nice.
Or adding notifications when a new discussion on a proposal you follow is posted.
 
@jmac I think that's a great idea.
 
Not that these will solve the issues, but they may make it more obvious where the issues lie. It would be awesome if the discussion mimicked a site-specific meta at the start to cover scope.
 
3:00 AM
So how should we advertise Spam Review so that it actually goes to commit phase?
Heck, what would happen if it did get to beta? "Can I haz teh spamz?"
 
@hichris123 I thought that proposal was a joke
 
3:16 AM
Joke? Don't you want it to get to beta? :)
Did you see the Meta post on it?
 
@hichris123 I didn't actually.
 
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Q: We need to improve the quality of our spam!

Undo the SnowmanRecently, I've noticed a downhill effect in the quality of spam posted on Stack Exchange websites. Take this as an example (found on Space.SE): There are a great many things wrong with this artifact: There is not one capitalized letter in the entire post. (-1 grammar point.) The only pun...

 
@hichris123 Oh. Yeah I did. I thought this was a joke too.
And it is.
phew
 
Pass on the word to your friends to follow the proposal. And reply to the people who spam you.
 
@hichris123 Is the proposal not a joke? Why do we actually want it to get to beta?
 
3:27 AM
Well I think we're also kind of seeing if it gets anywhere, since it's a joke.
I'm curious if people will think it's real and support it.
 
 
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5:10 AM
Er.
Whoops.
 
 
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6:14 AM
> we should have a data center in Washington DC. A Washington DC DC.
Then you should hire a former Doctor of Chiropractic who can't work anymore due to back pain as a sysadmin.
So you have a DC in the Washington DC DC DC.
Then one day, the sysadmin is stabbed, and a crime specialist from England who happens to be in town for a conference is asked to investigate.
He happens to be a Detective Const... ok ok, I'll stop.
Oh oh oh then a suspect is found and he's arraigned in front of the city's District Court
 
7:07 AM
So we have a DC in the DC investigating a stabbing of the DC in the Washington DC DC running on DC?
 
7:46 AM
@jmac No, in the Washington DC DC DC. Get it right.
 
@michaelb958'saSleigh Ah, the DC goes first too. Gotcha.
Or second actually.
Man,.
Wait, there is absolutely no way this can be right. Do all google- tags have a post-hyphen term that ends with A, B, or C? That can't be right. Is Google being intentionally alphabetic?
Oh dear... I really opened pandora's box with these google tags. There are so many required synonyms -- I don't want to know this. Let me unsee!
It's definitely a bug. Ugh. There is a that doesn't show up in a search for google- and there are no pagination options. API time?
 
 
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9:04 AM
So today is the first fasting day in my new 5:2 diet. A grand total of 600 calories await me today. Expect some serious close voting this afternoon as the blood sugar wears thin.
 
@Pëkka That sounds like an excellent idea for a comic. Now who could publish such a thing....
600 calories @Duncan. What are you going to do? Just lick the dust of your monitor?
 
No, I'm going to have to stop doing that today to ensure I don't go over my limit with my real food.
 
9:30 AM
-7
Q: Rotate three images on eliptical path in iPAD. Any Idea?

srikarI have a requirement to rotate three images in elliptical path. so when the image comes to front view. I must able to go to respective page when clicked on it. Like wise for the other two images. This must work on iPAD. Waiting for the solution Thanks in Advance

 
10:27 AM
ohh, I actually reviewed that.
(And I already ran out of close votes and normal votes)
 
11:06 AM
Guys - can I as a Q about extracting visual data from DICOM files? (medical 3D files, voxels, slices. MRI scan) using Osirix? I know it is a little far fetched, but technically it is image manipulation. Any chance someone will have an idea?
 
On which site?
 
ups - stack overflow
...or any other suggestion you might have
 
@jmac Great question. Although I wonder if your big "tag, count, hassynonyms" list should go in a code block, or something else that supports scrolling.
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Q: Cleaning Up Google Tags

jmacCurrently there are 240 google-related tags with the word 'google' in them. There are additional tags which are hidden, like gwt or gsa which seem to relate to google but don't pop up on my (admittedly basic) search. Issue This is the tag wiki entry for google: Please do not use this tag. ...

 
11:32 AM
@Duncan (cc @jmac) Done!
 
@michaelb958'saSleigh Well... I was politely waiting for feedback before wading in :-P. But nice trick with the headers there.
Can you @notify multiple people in a single chat message? IIRC, that's not possible on comments on the main sites, right?
 
@Duncan I once read the Wikipedia editing policies. One of the central ones is "Be bold".
And I'm fairly sure multi-pinging works on chat.
 
12:14 PM
@Duncan Thanks, I am always bad with that sort of stuff. I didn't realize code blocks scrolled -- go figure! Thanks for the edit. (cc@michaelb958'saSleigh)
 
12:56 PM
Yesterday an edit of me got put on the review queue, but I have more than 2000 rep on SO. Is that because it was an answer to my own question, or because I had an alternative answer to that question?
(I thought edits from users with 2000+ rep never needed approval)
(And the FAQ doesn't mention this)
 
Link please?
 
8
A: Nginx includes config files not in order?

VadimAccording to nginx source code it uses glob() function with GLOB_NOSORT parameter, so, the order of file inclusion could not be clearly established. This was changed in November 2012, first released in 1.3.10. From the changefile: now if the "include" directive with mask is used on Unix syst...

The original answer was outdated, so I added a new answer myself. Then I reversed it, because the original answerer does deserve the credit for his work, and I added my answer to his and removed my new answer.
 
1:35 PM
That is Server Fault, not Stack Overflow
Nope, this account does not have 2000+ reputation
 
@JohannesKuhn Gah! Damn you integrated Stack Exchange network!
 
We are always happy to help, @Jan ;)
 
You're welcome.
 
Thanks for pointing out my stupid mistake, have a nice day!
 
no problem. (and yes 18k is a nice ammount of rep. I'll take things... slower...)
(happens if your main-tag is a niche tag with 2,187 questions. - mhh, I only answered 6% of the questions in that tag?)
 
2:00 PM
Wow. I've gained 38 A51 rep from the Spam Review proposal.
 
2:55 PM
Do I get somehow votes back? I'm sure that I used all my votes today, but I can vote.
(Not CV, but "normal" up/downvote)
 
If you voted on posts that were later deleted, those go back, IIRC
 
3:34 PM
@Oded @JohannesKuhn I can confirm I've experienced that behavior, and even briefly seen my vote counts on my profile seem invalid due to deleted posts.
 
Laf
4:33 PM
Would it be feasable to have an option in our preferences to have the top bar always visible?
I know lots of people would hate to have it always displayed on top of the page, but that's something I, and some other, if I recall correctly, would like to have.
 
@Laf no. You could write a userscript for this though.
if there isn't one already
 
This 5 minute grace window to retract a downvote after an edit is seriously too small. I downvote an incorrect answer, spend some time explaining why on that and different answers and suddenly I notice the first question has been edited, but it's too late to retract my vote.
 
Laf
There might be one, I think someone posted it on Meta sometime ago. But I was just curious to see if this was a feature the developpers would like to add to our preferences.
 
@JeroenVannevel That's not how it works. There's a 5-minute window to retract your vote if there are no edits. An edit unlocked your ability to retract after those 5 minutes and it's not time-limited.
but I guess if the edit happens while you're still in the 5-minute "no questions asked" grace period, it doesn't make a difference.
 
Are you sure about that? When I try to unvote now I get the message "You last voted on this answer 10 mins ago. Your vote is now locked in unless this answer is edited." The post was edited 10 minutes ago as well, my downvote was before that.
 
4:38 PM
@JeroenVannevel link?
 
5
A: Do while loop comparing Strings

kostyanequalsIgnoreCase takes single string argument, not logical expression, your can combine them with || or && though if (!word.equalsIgnoreCase( "Deeppan") && !word.equalsIgnoreCase("thin" ))

 
Ouch. Your vote came 3 milliseconds after the edit.
I made another edit to fix up some grammar, so you should be able to retract now.
 
Lol. Well okay, I guess that explains it then.
Just saw it, already retracted. Thanks for the help
 
np
 
Laf
3 ms :D Talk about being unlucky ;)
 
5:24 PM
@Bart You don't mind me borrowing your smiting stick for a while, do you?
 
@UndotheSnowman So, your new nickname could be simplified to "warm weather".
 
fails to see reasoning
 
I'm slightly upset that I can't experience the ability to retract close votes. Definitely a first-world-moderator problem.
@UndotheSnowman Warm weather would 'undo' the snowman... ;)
 
@TheFestivusUnicorn you can't (ab)use that power
 
Retraction? We don't need no stinkin' retraction! ;)
 
5:28 PM
If we want to abuse something, we can retract all the close votes by closing and reopening. ;P
 
Ooooh... true!
 
@TheFestivusUnicorn Oh.
bonks self
 
6:06 PM
Will you use it for good or evil @UndotheSnowman?
 
@Bart There was someone in a chatroom bashing GIMP.
So good.
 
Now I'm conflicted..... GIMP is terrible.... but your answer was correct....hmmm
 
GIMP - for people too lazy, poor, or morally conflicted to pirate Photoshop.
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I got rep in the jQuery tag today. That's pretty unusual.
 
@jadarnel27 Yup, I fall under all of those categories.
 
6:11 PM
@jadarnel27 I think you're lying - no one ever gets reputation in [jquery].
Also, The GIMP is awesome.
 
I concur, @Shog9.
 
Gimp is good, but it's interface is seriously lacking
Paint.net is it for me
 
@ColeJohnson I give you that.
 
GIMP makes me want to punch kittens.
 
@Shog9 I see what you did there. What with jQuery being all popular and upvote-heavy.
 
6:13 PM
@Bart ヽ(´o`;
Noooo
 
@ColeJohnson I like Paint.NET. Except for how crowded the UI is, and how slow it is.
 
Yes @ColeJohnson. In their faces. Their cute fluffy faces.
 
@jadarnel27 you should totally drop manual voting and try jQuery
 
Every time I use JavaScript, it makes me want to use it more. And then months go by where there's no client code that needs updating at work.
 
@Shog9 how small is your monitor? Besides, you can close the tool windows
 
6:15 PM
@jadarnel27 and that's when you "accidentally" break it
 
@Bart Aha! That's a good idea.
 
@ColeJohnson 30" + laptop screen. Tool windows should go next to the image, and preferably on a separate monitor entirely.
 
@jadarnel27 you're still using JavaScript? You should totally drop that and try jQuery
@Bart not the kittens!
@Bart (´・Д・)」listen here you little
 
Hey, don't blame me. I don't want to. GIMP is making me do it @ColeJohnson. Tears streaming down my face....
 
@Shog9 that's your opinion. I like it
@Bart years are streaming down my face right now. Literally. I'm sick.
tears*
 
6:17 PM
 
Such man
Many pixels
Wow
 
@Duncan loool
best of luck!
 
@Cole I refer to JavaScript, simply because not all client code I've worked on needs jQuery (blasphemy, I know).
 
I've worked on client code that doesn't need JavaScript, man.
I've worked on client code that shouldn't have existed at all.
 
Hahaha
 
6:19 PM
Hell, I've written code that probably shouldn't exist
 
Well, I guess that's another situation entirely, @Pëkka.
 
"not all client code I've worked on needs jQuery" .... how does that even make sense?
 
Just simple JavaScript. (or...are you continuing the "drop that and try jQuery" joke?)
 
Me drawing out jokes far too long? Never!
 
I would expect nothing less, @Bart.
 
6:45 PM
Gah, it's so annoying not to have the same tools at home as I have at work. I keep grabbing for stuff that's only in Pro licenses...
 
Why was this post reopened when it's an exact duplicate?
77
Q: How can a Java variable be different from itself?

AndreDuraoI've received this quiz on an online form to apply for a recent Java event in my city: //Instead of this comment what code should be written so you can get "Gotcha!" printed if( a == a ){ System.out.println("Not yet..."); } else { System.out.println("Gotcha!"); } AFAIK: the == comparison i...

Am I missing something perhaps?
 
They are duplicates. The original has a terrible title, though.
Edited, re-closed, and merged. #jobwelldone :)
 
Thanks for the swift response :)
 
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Q: Allow me to flag my own comments as obsolete

Undo the Snowman note: this is not a dupe of this - that one regards flagging ones comments as offensive because they were in 'a bad mood' when writing them. This request is about flagging my own comments as obsolete. I'm quite active in a public beta site, and it should be enough to say that when a new mod ...

@AnnaLear So it'd be better to break the conversation for a while than to enable flagging one's own comments?
 
7:04 PM
@UndotheSnowman I feel very strongly "meh" about it. There is a solution that doesn't involve breaking the thread, and also the "conversation" has zero remaining utility anyway and there's little harm (IMHO) in "breaking" it for a short time.
 
Sounds reasonable.
> Why don't you just delete the comment? And however, asking for the code in SO is just to get information about his question, it is not obsolete (atleast in my opinion).
I'd have to argue that if the code was added, the comment would absolutely be obsolete. — Undo the Snowman 2 mins ago
You're right! In this case the comment argument would be obsolete, and as well as un necessary! Because discussions are allowed in chat. So in this part you're right! — Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan 1 min ago
I'm confused.
 
 
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8:13 PM
Meh
 
8:31 PM
If only SO had a code formatting option.. That would make life so much easier
 
@JeroenVannevel ???
 
Oh, not code makeup as the {} tag does. But actual code formatting (line indentation and stuff)
I don't know how new users manage to do it, but their code has the weirdest indentations
 
They use [tab] as an indent
 
Yeah, most of them do. Although earlier today I formatted some code that was a chain of .Append() statements except he had an actual newline in the middle of the .Append() argument.
`.Append("bla").Append(`
`"bla").Append(`
etc
 
That was a c# question?
 
8:40 PM
yeah
 
People are just lazy. They copy the code out of a sample they saw on a web page, and don't look at it after they paste it into Stack Overflow.
(or similar things like that)
Thus you get weird indentation and line breaks.
 
there are plugins in visual studio as well that 'reformat' your code...
 
True. I don't know how feasible it would be to create such a thing, but if it would be possible that would be amazing.
 
At least it doesn't meet the criteria 'show some effort'.
 
9:11 PM
I'm going to ask a question on how to implement something i.e I don't have working code.
This seems like it may be a good fit for SO, but would it be for Programmers?
 
Lix
10:13 PM
Hi everyone :) Are there any >10K users on unix.stackexchange.com in the room?
 
@Lix sort of? :)
 
Lix
lolz... hey @AnnaLear :) I just got pinged by a new answer on my (one and only) question. but it must have been removed before I got to it :(
Just wanted to know if there was anything of interest in there
 
Hmm. Deleted by owner.
> If you read the man page, you will find the following regarding the pipeline
"Each command in a pipeline is executed as a separate process"

if you perform a set -x and repeat the same procedure in your question, first executing the mg char followed by a second mg char you'll see the variables changing as expected.

Then, with set -x still set, when you execute the same pipeline command you'll see that each command is executed in its own separate process.
Hence each process begins by initializing the color index var to zero and giving the first color.
 
Lix
10:53 PM
@AnnaLear - thanks for that... hope I'm not getting you into any trouble ;)
 
11:04 PM
Regarding code formatting. It's not the tabs. It's the mixture of tabs and spaces with no regard to consistency.
 
@ColeJohnson Consistency is for nerds!
 
@GnomeSlice because Ctrl-F with \t and ` ` is too hard
That wa supposed to be 4 spaces
Meh. I give up
 
@ColeJohnson Just paste the link by itself, with nothing else
 
I was convinced I'd get a badge for 364 consecutive days of logging in. It just wasn't meant to be, I guess..
 
@JeroenVannevel You do for 100, I think that's it.
 
11:18 PM
I've got one for 30 days, that's all I think. 1 year is such a nice round number. Such a shame!
 

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