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12:22 AM
Laundromats are gross places.
 
Does anyone know anything about Seattle, WA?
 
12:34 AM
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Squarespace

Proposed Q&A site for web designers and developers using the Squarespace platform.

Currently in definition.

All these people are going to be upset that the commitment process is going to go absolutely nowhere.
I only see three people there that actually have accounts elsewhere on the network.
 
12:45 AM
@animuson IMO that is way too narrow for a Stack,
 
 
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2:37 AM
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Legal Interpretations

Proposed Q&A site for this site is for Americans to ask questions pertaining to legal interpretations of domestic laws, and for European laymen to answer those questions.

Currently in definition.

discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/q/6166/35523 if anyone wants to contribute to the discussion about it.
 
This seems like it's on the wrong site...
 
3:02 AM
@mootinator Yep cstheory for sure.
 
3:33 AM
Resisting urge to answer "duct tape"
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Q: How can I attach a pipe to a flat surface?

Chris DutrowWhat type of fitting is used to attach a pipe to a flat surface such as a barrel or other container? The reason I ask is because I have built a tray out of sheet metal that is intended to contain plants. I now need to tap a drainage pipe into the bottom of it for the excess water.

 
3:48 AM
No, hot glue. Duct tape is for *curved surfaces.
Did I hit a nerve or something?
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A: Enormous "Summer of Love" violation

Josh CaswellWhat's your point here? This isn't an "enormous" anything. There were snarky comments. These are now removed. Plenty of other off-topic or not-suitable-for assorted reasons do get helpful guidance in the comments. I notice that you yourself still haven't provided any. (Someone else has.) Instea...

 
Hi folks.
 
Hey
So @Moshe, snarkiness to teenagers: for or against?
I'm against.
 
I can see where he's coming from. I understand everyone wants to stop rude comments from occurring in the first place, but logically when has something like that ever happened in any form of community on and off the Internet?
 
I think SE does a pretty good job of self-policing of abuse
But policing can only go so far.
The SOL discussions brought out all kinds of examples of mean vs. neutral vs. nice ways of saying things
People don't flag "neutral", so neutral is OK
There's not as much "nice" as I'd like to see.
You're right, @animuson, my little speech isn't going to change anybody's habits.
But, you know, I thought I'd pick up this one starfish and throw it back in the ocean
in the hopes that someday it would get a top hat and martini glass of its own
And a monocle of course
 
4:15 AM
hey hey
@ErnestFriedman-Hill: If it means anything, I joined SO when I was 13
 
Did you ever feel bullied?
 
a few times
but I found over time that people will be people--there will be rude comments occasionally
because some people simply don't know how to help others
 
This is true.
 
i suppose that's a lesson that few learn as quickly as I did
but trust me, I've posted my fair share of meta rants to no avail
the argument is always that we can't "fix" human nature
which is true
the most we can do is remove offensive content and hope it doesn't escalate, but that's entirely up to the person towards whom the content is aimed
 
I personally love SO, but I have a number of friends that find the culture too cold and unfriendly. One of them inspired me to bring this up today.
 
4:23 AM
hi all, if someone likes code golfing (minification) and you write in a language that if(0) isn't get executed but if(<any non-zero number>) is. You should totally check what I discovered codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/6990/3563
 
Well, if it helps, I personally try my hardest to make new users or users who are having trouble in the community feel more welcome or become accustomed to the very stubborn way in which questions are to be asked
I've never cast either a close vote or a downvote without first suggesting changes that could be made
 
My son is 8, and he likes to make LEGO stop-motion animation videos with my old laptop; we have posted a few videos of his on Youtube. They're mostly ignored, as you'd imagine, but he's gotten the occasional downvote. That also entered into my feelings in this discussion. People can really be jerks.
@Purmou you sound like an awesome dude, we need more guys like you
 
Hehe, thank you. :)
And yeah, YouTube is a brutal community
for the most part, downvoters are just trolls
definitely never a judge of the quality, of course
 
mmm the picture of animuson is too dark to tell if he is online or not, anyone knows how I can check this?
 
well
 
4:28 AM
@Purmou I sometimes cast downvotes without any explanation because there is already one in the comments.
 
if his picture is here
 
Too dark?
 
it means he will be notified if you @mention him
 
some pics are dim
like, faded out
 
@ajax333221 Yeah, that comes up in assembly-language programming a lot; there are fast instructions like JZ (Jump if Zero) or JNZ (Jump if Not Zero) that you can use for this
 
4:28 AM
@ajax333221 That's due to (lack of) activity.
 
oh I see
 
The Gravatars are sorted by last activity, and they start fading out more and more to a certain maximum point the longer they've been inactive.
You can always just click on the picture and it tells you how long ago they last talked.
 
good to know
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Even then, I won't cast one unless an attempt or two have been made by the OP unsuccessfully
it's just that for new users, downvoting is freaking discouraging
i take them lightly now because it's either some stubborn troll or someone who doesn't like me (more likely the first)
but that's something you learn with time :P
 
On answers by new users I most often simply edit and comment, or comment without downvote.
 
4:32 AM
i like to be lenient with new users
 
On other answers I downvote quite freely, but I keep tabs open to check back and possibly remove the downvote (and sometimes change to upvote).
 
i don't usually downvote answers unless it is literally worthless in solving the OP's problem
wow, @Ernest, 4 starred messages in the sidebar :P
 
I am pretty funny when I'm not pissing people off
Apparently
 
Isn't everyone?
It's only funny until one person is offended.
 
no, because then the fact that someone gets offended is funny
 
4:37 AM
I always hated Andrew Dice Clay
I never understood how he got to be so famous
 
I have no idea who that is
 
never heard of that man in my life
 
But he's so famous!
 
is he beyond our time?
 
Before your time, kiddies
Andrew Dice Clay (born Andrew Clay Silverstein; September 29, 1957) is an American comedian and actor who played the lead role in the film The Adventures of Ford Fairlane. Clay has been in several movies and has released a number of stand-up albums. He is the only comedian in history to sell out Madison Square Garden two nights in a row, a feat he accomplished in 1990. Early life Clay was born in the Brownsville neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York, the son of Doris and Fred Silverstein, who worked in real estate sales. Clay is of Jewish heritage. Clay was doing impressions and entertain...
He was ostensibly a comedian, but he was racist, homophobic, and misogynistic to the extreme. Everything he said made you uncomfortable. I guess that was the thing -- so outrageous, it was funny -- but I never thought it was funny.
 
4:40 AM
well
Michael Richards was pretty damn funny
 
Jeff Ross' new The Burn show is pretty funny...
 
then he went racist in a comedy club
...and he was still pretty damn funny
 
Michael Richards was still funny after that unfortunate incident.
And hey, guys, right back at you, no idea who Jeff Ross is
 
I didn't either before the Comedy Central Roasts
 
what?
jeff ross has always been ridiculously funny
i didn't get to see roseanne's roast though...did any of you catch it?
Jon Lovitz, on the other hand...that's a nobody
 
4:52 AM
I watched it. I have to say, though, it wasn't as great as some of the other roasts. I don't know, maybe I wasn't in the comedy mood that night. But they played it like 3 or 4 times in a row back-to-back all night long.
 
bob saget's and charlie sheen's were great
i loved Norm MacDonald's jokes...
 
5:07 AM
Looks like my printer is officially no-longer-functional. :(
All it will do is flash a yellow light and give me a general "Operator error" message. I tried removing all the ink cartridges and it still says they're all full...
 
5:33 AM
@ErnestFriedman-Hill I've been quite snarky this week and it's only Tuesday.
@animuson It's full of itself.
 
Heh apart from taking it apart to find out nothing and then attempting to reassemble it, I have no idea what to do.
 
6:13 AM
How nice
These guys want to rebuild SO but without the trivial questions

Hackers at HackerRank at HackerRank

What? Imagine a room in SF where all the top engineers from Google, Facebook, Apple, etc. come by everyday and spend a couple of hours? The value of that room is incredibly…

Posted on Careers 2.0 on August 2, 2012

 
@Pekka: Do you happen to sell printers? ;)
 
@animuson umm....? Not as such, currently, no.
But if you need something printed, I have just the idea for you.
I can print stuff at Uni at a low price
I can print it for you
And take it with me when I depart for California this saturday
and mail it to you
PROFIT!
@animuson ahh, I get it, reading previous conversation now
I stand by my offer. It's a great deal, man.
Vacation time, oh boy oh boy
 
Haha. I'll just try to figure out my mom's password tomorrow and use her printer...
It's probably something like 1234 or password...
 
.. or her birthday.
 
 
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10:28 AM
Am I completely off my rocker here and are the recent interview-questions this user has asked just fine? There is no attempt to a solution in any of them. They are straight problem statements. Yet they get upvoted and answered. No wonder the OP thinks they are just fine and good fun... Am I missing something here?
I don't intend to call out this user, but rather the fact that the community at large has not picked this up and nipped it in the bud.
 
 
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12:21 PM
yawns
I'm surprised I'm awake before 9:00, hmm.
 
I knew I felt a disturbance in the force.
 
12:33 PM
In other news, I wonder how many machines it'd take to compute all permutations of 2^128 bits in a reasonable amount of time.
 
1:10 PM
Good morning all.
I dont think I am going to ask/answer any more meta questions for a while...
If I have a problem.... Ill just come here.... @@@GraceNote
 
So you did not quite after all?
 
Your profile says "please delete me"
 
@Bart and now it doesnt. :-P
 
quit..not quite... ah okay. Good :)
 
1:16 PM
@Bart But I am fed up with general meta. Dont think ill be participating there for a while
 
@TimStone So that's 2^(2^128) permutations? That's a big number.
 
Fair enough and up to you. Better solution than to quit
 
@jadarnel27 Yeah, even with a 10000 strong botnet, with a simple C# app it'd take something like 1e20 years :D
But, I assume there's some shortcut, because I doubt that the distribution of possible MD5 outputs calculated from a MD5 hash is actually the full range of MD5 outputs.
 
It looks like the authors thought of that though, since they included the "Increase the last WORD in the pair+salt buffer (the one initially set to 0x0015) by 1" step.
 
1:20 PM
@TimStone Hmmm. Yeah, there must indeed be some shortcuts. Interesting.
 
While it might be possible to reduce the workload to something someone with extreme computing power could brute force within a non-insane timeframe, it's unfeasible that they could perform that step for each block.
 
Somebody know if the bounty reason in this question is considered appripriate stackoverflow.com/questions/10438501/…?
 
That...is interesting.
 
the user got just 1 downvote
 
Yeah, it seems like a rather ridiculous use of a bounty.
 
1:24 PM
It's rather petty, but does invite new answers. As such not a huge problem.
 
all right. I was just wondering.
 
@Bart but mine was apparently... :-\
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA That situation was IMO different. But I'm not going to do that whole discussion again. What I've just said above is merely my opinion. That's all.
 
@juergend definitely not a problem, but whining about downvotes in a bounty notice?... that could attract more downvotes :)
110 volts? Seriously?
 
1:37 PM
In Europe, electronic devices expect a manly 220 volts.
They won't even turn their heads for 110.
Outrageous
 
Things here are conservative like that.
 
Tsk tsk
Seriously though, looking forward to setting foot on your strange and amazing continent for the first time in my life
On Saturday. Yay!
 
Where will you be setting foot?
 
@TimStone San Francisco. That's where I'll be departing and leaving
 
Ah ha, west coast. Good luck with that. :P
 
1:42 PM
Everything in between is yet undefined :)
 
Although I suspect that the weather is probably more tolerable there at the moment...
 
heh, thanks! :) Yeah, although it seems to be relatively cool and rainy at the moment.
Although I guess that changes when you move outside the Bay Area
 
It was quite rainy here yesterday, but somehow it managed to stay unacceptably hot.
 
ugh, I know that feel
 
2:05 PM
I think the close votes queue on Meta is leading people to incorrectly vote to close my bug report as a duplicate :o
That, or I was unclear. I prefer to blame some other, non-human entity though.
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4:08 PM
whatever mod posted that yesterday does not lend me to beleieve that I would want to stay on meta....
@@@GraceNote
 
What's with the extra @ symbols? Are you notifying someone named "@@GraceNote"?
 
@jadarnel27 trying to "superping"
 
which would bne two @s and not three ;)
 
It's an hyperping.
 
Oh. Super ping is mod-only, I believe.
 
4:23 PM
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA If you really want your meta account deleted, use the "contact us" link at the bottom of every page.
 
@Shog9 That has nothing to do with the response to my flag. That should not be a response to a flag.
 
Sounds like a valid thing to report, then, no?
 
@GraceNote report where?
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA The "contact us" link at the bottom of every page would be ideal
 
Anything I report on meta gets shot down by mods.... I have decided that I am just going to "report" on chat over here..... if goes anywhere, fine --- otherwise, not....
 
4:27 PM
The "contact us" link goes directly to SE
 
@GraceNote I used that afterwards.... I did not know the procedure originally. I read some meta posts that stated to flag posts.
 
That said, it's not fully necessary right now because we've already heard here in the tavern
 
@GraceNote I see ^_^
 
You know it's not just modraters voting on Meta, yes?
 
I just dont understand that that decline message even means.... @GraceNote It definitely does not point me in the right direction.
@random I know that .
 
4:29 PM
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Link to them, and I will remove those erroneous instructions.
 
orders a frosty mug of beer.
 
The mod does have a point, though, don't they? You're not being very clear about whether you want to be deleted or not.
 
> ...You're better off spending less time pretending to be confused and more time honestly trying to learn. - Source
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA It's referencing that you flagged for deletion at 14:25:13Z yesterday, but proceeded to post two comments and revise a post over an hour later
 
@Pekka I was not active after that. I stopped posting. and flagged my questions with the "please delete me"
@GraceNote well if I was not deleted, I still would want to action any notifications that come my way
 
4:31 PM
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA mmm, I remember seeing you active with "everyday" comments after you added "delete me" to your profile. I wondered about that. Is my memory incorrect?
 
Are you still using your Meta account today?
 
@random yes.... that is what this is....
 
Not exluding the possibility that my memory is incorrect, but I remember wondering
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA That seems tangential to the point I just made
 
@GraceNote well after I filled out the form about deletion I got no response until a little while later from SE.... whatever, it doesn't matter now
I am staying
just mainly on chat.
 
4:33 PM
So you would like to continue to delete your Meta account then?
 
The second comment and edit were made on a completely new post made much later, regarding free-hand circles and jQuery on a post. This indicated to the moderator who found the flag that "I still want to have fun here", so he declined it.
 
I had an email back and forth with the SE and I have decided not to.
 
Cool
But then there's no issue, is there?
Or rather, the mod had psychic powers :)
 
@Pekka lol no. I was just hoping the mods dont respond that way to everyone
that is a terrible way to respond to someone who might want to delete their account....
 
4:34 PM
Perhaps a speedier deletion would have mooted all this
Who knows what goes on with people who participate on Meta beyond a week
 
"I am staying; just mainly on chat." - Well that's exciting -____-
 
@jadarnel27 Isn't it?
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Australian
 
Hope I can get a nice following of Whovians. ^_^
Then continue on from there.
 
4:36 PM
If you wanted your SFF account deleted, then why did you edit your Meta account?
 
@random still confused... but ill let that pass...
@random sff?
 
You're not talking in euphemisms again?
 
@random huh?
You are confusing me...
 
Not being subtle enough.
 
4:38 PM
@random wait... sff = scifi.SE?
I dont want that deleted!
I love that account :-)
 
Okay, making sure as your SFF profile said "please retcon me"
 
Did you post a message?
 
@random I don't remember..... I have these weird lines on my arm.....
 
5:08 PM
@mootinator Isn't it before noon for you? Seems a bit early to start drinking, even by my standards. :P
 
Sure!
 
Wait, it can be too early to start drinking? Why didn't they tell me this?
 
@random Nonsense, we all have a little carbon diamond in us.
@R.MartinhoFernandes We needed a test case to determine if that was true.
Please accept these coupons as a token of appreciation for your participation.
 
I'm all day, son. You can't stop me from drinking in the morning, social convention!
 
5:12 PM
That comment from webarto is incredibly rude.
 
But incredibly accurate.
 
@amanaP Sorry, I just had to...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes True true
@Bart boooo
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Perhaps (I don't use PHP). That doesn't excuse the comment, though.
 
5:16 PM
@jadarnel27 I was super confused about what this "webarto" community was until you edited.
 
@TimStone haha ditto
 
@TimStone Haha, I hope you Googled "Webarto" ;-)
 
I just raised a brow and continued on, admittedly. Mostly because I'm lazy.
 
Yeah, that's sounds more likely, now that you mention it.
 
@amanaP Next time just see if I'm around before you post such things. I simply can't resist the urge.
 
5:26 PM
@Bart I'm just going to ask you something before I continue, were you sirius?
 
@webarto About my comment?
Yep. Perhaps not so much about turning it into an answer. But rather more about the overall tone. It's nothing personal, but the comment has no real value to the OP.
 
Yes, about the comment. Secondly, do you have any skills in PHP or syntax similar languages?
Ok, well, usually I would, but since OP has no real value to SO, I won't.
 
Nope, absolutely not. I am as much a noob as the OP apparently is. And admittedly the question even to me is bad.
However, you might want to look into some of the recent discussions we've had on tone of a message
(Which I have admittedly somewhat screwed up myself from time to time)
 
I don't think "summer of love" is applicable to PHP and jQuery... if you are reffering to that.
 
5:30 PM
Mwah, whether or not it falls under that header is besides the point in my opinion. It just sends the wrong message I feel.
 
jQuery is all love all the time.
 
You're most likely right, but you could say exactly the same in a manner that would be appreciated by the OP and those drive-by onlookers who might stumble upon it later on. (Should this question survive).
But well, it seems the whole thing has been cleaned up anyway now.
 
@Bart you might be right of course, but in my personal opinion, they don't come back (and this user clearly opened 2 same questions) after being mildly flamed. If you look at first question, you'll see an answer is provided, and yet OP showed no interest in it. In PHP chat room, we have user* all the times, and pattern is the same. Sorry if my comment seemed rude, but I was trying to be rude. And I would rewrite entire thing to show you how bad is his code... and I'm not that good...
@Bart anyway, no harm meant, we shouldn't fight over idiots ;) (yes, idiots)
Where am I exactly?
 
Don't worry, my comments often have to pass several filters as well before they are written down. And no matter how much I understand the feeling, such comments IMO are better avoided. But don't worry, I just happened to stumble upon this question due to a link here in chat. Not my tag, so you won't quickly run into my overly-polite face again. :p
 
5:35 PM
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA remind me not to click on your links :P
 
@webarto my links? what are wrong with my links?
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA they take me to unusual and cruel places ;D Nevermind Neal ol' chap, continue.
 
What was the comment?
 
@Pekka "dear user, this is the worst code I've seen in my life."
 
@webarto ah, thanks
 
5:38 PM
closed as too localized by webarto, hakra, Neal, Mihai Iorga, cHao 5 mins ago
mission accomplished :P
 
It's not that terrible, though, is it? Maybe a bit on the.... repetitive side, yeah. But... I've seen worse.
 
@webarto Where did they take you?! Now I am scared....
 
Regents International College will now probably have to do without an E-Mail contact form.
 
@Pekka PeeHaa says I haven't seen all yet :P
 
5:40 PM
@webarto Regent's college might also be in for a discrimination lawsuit, seeing as it only accepts [A-Za-z .'-] in names and surnames
 
@Pekka we should sent collective SO condolences to Regent college and their website. Also ramitharupasinghe@gmail.com probably falls into Indian Asking Pattern
 
5:58 PM
hehe, I just saw the new add of the dying starfish in action
 
in PHP on Stack Overflow Chat, 55 secs ago, by user1431627
Can I store something in the database and not in the table?
and how do you respond to that? :) I can't talk nicely with anonymous.
 
@webarto haha I have the same Q.
 
Pfff, I'm out of here for the day. It seems my ideas of what's appropriate for this site are way off the general consensus today. I'll go read the FAQ again. 3 reopen votes already. I must be doing something wrong. :) Take care
 
7:11 PM
@Bart reopen votes for that one? Seems hard to believe... anyway, 'night!
 
waves Bye Pekka!
 
Wait...what? That was reopened last I looked, now it's deleted?
 
Self-deleted
 
7:40 PM
Is this kind of answer valid? stackoverflow.com/a/11976008/1400768
 
I'm not too sure, since it seems to copy from the other answer
The question should be closed for dup instead
 
@nhahtdh That's the best course of action. If you can answer a question with precisely the answer to another question, it's very, very likely to be a dupe.
 
Hes back from deeeead :-P
 
8:32 PM
When people leave out the Oxford comma, I feel uncomfortable, irate and discouraged.
3
 
Waaaaaait a second....
I'm skeptical.
 
what?
Who does lists without a comma before and.
 
@Xaade we do
we do
 
...
That's just confusing....
 
Bad people. Bad, awful and terrible people.
 
8:37 PM
With the comma, I can count without reading.
 
Ok, it actually hurts a little every time I do that. I'll stop now.
 
There's one, two, three, and four items in this list.
 
Wait. Sane, normal and rational people really do actually use the Oxford comma now?
 
@Pekka there you are.
 
8:39 PM
@mootinator What does that have to do with this room?
 
@mmyers COMMAS have everything to do with everything. I can't count without commas.
 
The thing that made me think of that was reading random's answer here. Quick, everyone downvote for the absence of that important punctuation!
 
@mmyers The flag-star is the official banner of the Republic of OY.
Upvoted for correct use of punctuation.
What was the post about?
 
Something about leather belt straps.
 
@jadarnel27 I edited it for commas.
 
8:42 PM
@jadarnel27 This thing? thedoghousediaries.com/1036
@Xaade What the? Now I have to go downvote it.
 
@mootinator Haha, "They don’t taste as good as they sound" is funnier than the actual comic =)
 
@jadarnel27 is there an edit stuck in the queue there?
haha REJECTED
> there is no pause for the ellipses, but if you're going to shake the hand of a marmoset, bring gloves and a nice plate of fruit; there's more to fix
LOL
great response @random
 
9:35 PM
suddenly wonders what the theoretical peak rate of "The Oatmeal" fundraising is.
 
10:13 PM
Am I the only one who sees this regex /^(\w.*)?$/ as something like:
 

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