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3:00 PM
lol
Who broke the (moderator) tools this time?
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Q: Can't dismiss flags from question page

Michael MrozekManually dismissing a flag from a question page appears to be broken; nothing happens when I click the "no action needed" button. Tried on Chromium 32.0.1700.19 and Firefox 25.0, on Linux. Dismissing from the flag list still works fine.

Poor mods!
 
What is with this Karthik troll :/
 
@Doorknob yeah, highly irritating when you realize he's just trolling for fun
Smart comment alert!
@ShadowWizard If I own a vineyard or an agri-orange company I would have used a tractor or a bulldozer to make juice ;) then a car wouldn't be enough... — bonCodigo 4 mins ago
Got a point there, can't deny it. :D
 
Heh :-P
 
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A: how to use opencv in android?

SatelliteSDmy first hit on google : http://opencv.org/platforms/android.html there is a Introduction into Android Development with Detailed instructions on SDK and finally “Android development with OpenCV” shows you how to add OpenCV functionality into your Android application.

Link only Answer
I think, this need downvote
 
Meh, question is asking for it. Just get the question nuked.
 
3:21 PM
Hey, anyone know of a thing that you give a number (like 9.0014671356) and it spits out how you can get that number (like 2pi+e)? I remember finding a website that did something like that.
 
Does SE use a front end js framework? The meta list of technologies doesn't seem to indicate that it does
 
@TravisJ jQuery! :-D
 
@Doorknob Deep Blue maybe? ;) (sorry, no idea - sounds way too complicated to be something free)
 
nvm, just checked the sources tab on chrome
@Doorknob - ? Isn't that a server side technology that does everything?
 
jQuery is 100% client side
You're probably confused with node.js?
 
3:27 PM
Sorry, I didn't use my sarcastic font
 
I know of it @Doorknob, it's definitely a thing! But can't for the life of it remember what it's called!
 
@Shadow Well, I seem to recall having something like that before. It usually gives about 20 answers by accuracy, usually one is a fraction, one is some factor of pi, etc
Meh, my Google-fu is failing me :-P
 
@Doorknob - Would it only combine pi, e, or would it also use more complex numbers such as avagadros number, plancks constant, etc
 
@Doorknob - pretty sure it was on a recentish PCG question, if that helps...
 
in Mathematics on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 4 mins ago, by Pedro Tamaroff
@Doorknob You mean the inverse symbolic calculator.
Found it in the math chatroom :-D
Here's the exact site I remembered, btw: isc.carma.newcastle.edu.au/standard
 
3:34 PM
@Doorknob - I tried this one: oldweb.cecm.sfu.ca/projects/ISC/ISCmain.html it seemed accurate (kind of fun too)
 
Grrr, Anna and her binding mod votes ...
 
You're welcome.
 
shakes fist
 
I'm actually not a huge fan of cv-pls type stuff, but when it's right... it's right. :)
 
3:38 PM
It was a pretty low quality question
 
Yeah, I never blindly go for those
 
@Anna - Why not? That is the job of the community to come to a census on that type of stuff. Did you read through the conversation last week on changes to the flag system?
 
@TravisJ I did. I'm not a huge fan on two counts: 1) there is a lot of history that comes with a term like . It's not always been a request for review. It's historically been used to request a pile of close votes. 2) there are systems in place (like the review queue) that are designed to build community consensus. Chat is fine if it's not done blindly, but "cast close votes on this" isn't a discussion starter. see #1.
Note that I'm not actively doing anything against these requests. They just rub me the wrong way as a practice.
 
To add to @Anna words, if does make us look like a bunch of people sitting atop our high tower throwing stones (oops, meant close votes) down below on the commoners. :)
But hey, it's Meta and it's a tavern so think it's not a big deal! :D
 
@ShadowWizard It is a big deal! You would look as two newbies. Rocks? Not enchanted arrows of smiting? at least use a pot of boiling oil! Must I always teach you all the tricks to keep the people at bay??
All that Sith training down the drain....
 
3:46 PM
@AnnaLear - I understand the point you make against the mob mentality. However, I do not think that it happens to good content and have not seen any evidence of that either. There are systems in place to allow for a slower natural progression, and there isn't anything wrong with that.
The tools available to the community are in place for "in the wild" progression though (times when you navigate to this type of content) and it would seem that alerting other people in to community to that is not a negative. I don't think mods should action those requests as often because it seems to send a stronger message than if the community naturally handles it.
I think that was part of where the discussion went with the flag voting (that mods should only delete egregious content whereas the community can remove content which may not be on topic to a post).
 
Oh no, forgot my coffee!
 
@ShadowWizard - The horror! Me too actually, thanks for the reminder
 
user image
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lol
 
@TravisJ That's reasonable. I tend to shy away from binding closures (an employee closing a question sends an even worse message), but once in a while something truly obvious comes along.
 
3:52 PM
@AnnaLear but as community manager (well, you can still wear that costume I guess :)) isn't it your place to keep the community clean from off topic questions?
I mean, if looking at it this way it won't send any bad message
 
@ShadowWizard Strictly speaking, no. That's the community's job. A community manager cannot be possibly expected to keep up with each of the 100+ sites' nuances on what is and isn't off-topic.
 
@Bart COUNTER!
 
We can and do act when needed (both in closing and reopening), but it's most certainly not part of the job description, and we go out of our way to avoid interfering with individual communities as much as possible.
 
Of course @Anna, not ALL but when CM does have some time and will, doing a mass closing won't look bad in my opinion.
 
Surprisingly, folks don't feel comfortable disputing actions taken by a CM. ;)
@ShadowWizard You underestimate how much of a slap in the face it is to the community when an outsider shows up and closes a bunch of stuff. (Or reopens. Or does literally anything, for that matter.)
 
3:55 PM
@Bart (evil laugh ) Have I just ruined your coffee or I also need to explain how the above sample was produced ? :P
 
Focus is outsider, @Anna - you (or most other CM's) are far from this, coming from the inside
 
@ShadowWizard Most certainly not. We're external to the vast majority of SE communities.
Trust me on this one.
 
@SPArchaeologist I am well aware of that. It's called kopi luwak if I'm not mistaken?
 
Yep, but we're talking about SO here... :)
 
Out of the current CM team, there are probably two people who'd be entirely comfortable moderating SO.
 
3:56 PM
Can we guess? ;)
 
You get three guesses, first two don't count. ;)
 
Doesn't that make it five guesses..?
 
That's the other side of being a CM, though - can't just think about SO.
On that note, lunch. :)
 
@AnnaLear so you consider moving back to be a CM? :D
 
Gotta think about lunch too!
 
3:59 PM
Anyway, obviously you meant Tim Post and good old Pops, @Anna :)
 
@Bart yep. Finely hand selected by only the highest pedigree civet cats, vili cleaned and then back delivered only the best grains survive the whole process.....
No need to thank me for the mental image :P I will return to my tea now.
 
user200500
4:16 PM
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 7 hours to continue reviewing.
And no audit today
Any thread on Meta related to this, why system sometime behaves like this with no audit in cv review
 
@ShadowWizard I was going with Tim Post and Shog. Pops probably too, though, you're right. :)
 
Shog is way too busy IMO ;)
Oh, first edit conflict I ever saw on Meta!
@TGMCians hmm.... maybe they disabled close votes audits when the queue shrank and forgot to turn them back on?
Long time since I saw "review audit tricked me" report on meta, for close queue
@Anna you're a dev now, can you please check it? (if audits are disabled for close votes queue :))
 
4:36 PM
Audits are somewhat random. you're not guaranteed to hit one on any given day.
 
@AnnaLear Okay
 
@TGMCians, audits work in the close queue. I just hit two of them in a span of 10 questions. Hooray!
 
@ShadowWizard Very kind of you to say and all, but that place is terrifying.
 
4:52 PM
I got, like, 3 audits in the close vote queue today (@ShadowWizard and @TGMC). So I can confirm that at least some people are getting audits =)
 
hmm
 
 
1 hour later…
6:07 PM
Some profile pictures don't appear on SE sites. Does anyone else have the same problem?
 
@ShadowWizard Audits aren't disabled in the close queue. I've had at least 1 audit for the last 3 days.. can't remember further back than that though.
Also, some people skip a lot of questions in the close queue, so there chances of an audit are probably reduced a bit.
 
6:22 PM
@ProgramFOX shows fine for me
 
Not for me :-(
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Q: Profile picture disappeared

ProgramFOXSome profile pictures don't show up: on the top bar, on profile pages and on the page with questions. I have checked my ad blocker settings, but there is nothing that blocks the images. Gravatar profile pictures work fine, but other ones don't. I also can't access my profile picture directly, it ...

 
I'm not closing the first one, sorry.
The second one has my close vote
 
@Pops so let's make it less terrifying! :-)
 
@ProgramFOX can you see a picture in this answer: stackoverflow.com/a/22462559/578411
 
6:38 PM
@rene No, I just see a blank area.
 
Anybody else sees an image?
 
 
no, i don't see that image
what is it?
 
@rene ^
 
nevermind
It is a tracker
it is the answer to the question of the OP
 
6:41 PM
I see a large blank spce
space
 
same here
 
it is a transparent gif of 1024 x 768
 
I'm so confused.
 
"Your request to URL shorter.in/StackTrack has been blocked. The URL is listed in categories "Suspicious" which are not allowed by the Corporate Internet Access Policy. "
 
6:45 PM
@Andy LOL
 
@Braiam it is incredibly rare for me to hit something the firewall doesn't like, so now I'm really curious what this page looks like.
 
"Shorter.in is a powerful site that can not only shorten URL but also make it dynamic.No adds on shortened link!!!" - google search
 
I'm all out of close votes and regular up/down votes... I feel so insecure!
 
6:58 PM
1 cv from me
 
I have done also
 
cv as too broad
 
quickly done
Leaving time now, cya !
 
cya
@Andy final vote was mine
 
How popular is the view "all duplicates should be deleted"? Because I'm looking at an (old) question marked as dupe, with 16 upvotes, and accepted answer with 19 upvotes, and 3 delete votes. And the one this is duplicate of even has less votes. So I wonder, should I help let the more upvoted question out of its misery, just shrug on its impending deletion, or do something else?
 
Why do I see hadoop all over the place lately?
 
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Q: Do not delete good duplicates!

jjnguyThis question (currently deleted (visible only to 10kers)) is a great example of a duplicate question that should not be deleted. [Note: this question was later merged into this one, which resulted in the original being hard-deleted. This issue with merging was later fixed ] The titles of the du...

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A: Why are we deleting instead of merging?

Jeff AtwoodI wish people wouldn't delete questions with good answers. You're destroying the useful contributions of your peers! Flag these for moderator attention instead and suggest a merge! Anyway, I merged it with the duplicate so nothing is lost: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/43434/how-to-improv...

 
7:38 PM
@Shog9 yep, that's why I'd prefer the "do something else" option, but I'm not sure what would be a good thing to do
 
In that regard I left a comment on this one:
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Q: Detect number of Arabic characters in a String in JavaScript

sikanderI know how to detect arabic characters in a string. var arabic = /[\u0600-\u06FF]/; var string = 'عربية‎'; var flag = arabic.test(string); // flag is true in this case I am wondering how to detect total number of arabic characters in a string ?

 
IMO it is not a duplicate of the question linked as explained in comment.
IMHO
Is H for Humble or Honest?
 
humble
 
Thanks, hoped so :)
 
7:41 PM
IMHSHO its honest
 
In My HoneSt HOpinion?
 
it's always been "humble". "in my honest opinion" doesn't even make much sense
 
IMNSHO it's honest (was on mobile firefox which didn't allow editing, and looks like this PC didn't boot up fast enough to edit, joke spoiled by stupid typo and stupid technology)
 
No, perhaps not. I somehow made it to perhaps be honest as in "this is what i truly mean/believe, correct me if I'm wrong" kind of way.
 
In my heroic opinion, it's an unnecessary character
 
7:50 PM
IM is perhaps the way to go.
But in regards to question like the one I mentioned above. Is there a way to object to the close beyond leaving a comment? Are such comments ever trapped in the web of reviews or the like?
 
So I'm not sure how to deal with link-only answers in the first posts queue; I'm talking about answers that link to an off-site resource like a tutorial but don't provide any explanation themselves. My understanding is that these are frowned upon but I'm not sure how I should approach them. Should I go so far as flagging them or should I leave a comment? Or downvote? Or nothing?
 
@user13500 closing, I think you can only object in the review queue, not on the question itself (other than leaving a comment).
 
uh-oh
@TimStone Halp!
 
appears
Hmm?
 
Clicking 'run query' in SEDE borks things
 
7:58 PM
@Nacimota: IMO: Leave comment, encourage. Down-vote, up to you. If its is a good link bad link can be of consideration. Flag: ? Wait for more experienced ones :)
 
You have the sidebar hidden?
 
Takes me to query/save/2
@TimStone yeah, but it happens with it either closed or open
Gives me a bunch of JSON
 
It should only happen if you had the sidebar closed when you loaded the page.
 
reloads page
 
@Nacimota: In "Wait for more experienced ones", I meant here in chat ...
 
8:00 PM
O....kay. That did it, @TimStone.
So... is that a feature?
 
But that said, I've already submitted a PR to fix it. Pending a pull and deploy.
Nah, just already reported.
 
ah, good :D
wonders what could cause such a bug
 
@Nacimota I generally flag as low quality... If it's a new answer, I leave a comment and downvote, if link looks like it could easily be expanded to an acceptable answer (and then undownvote if poster bothers to edit and respond).
 
ah, okay
 
8:02 PM
If you toggleSidebar before initSchema, the subsequent call to the grippie resizer fails because it uses :visible.
 
huh
goes back to making vandalism detector
 
I do not flag them except in some occasions. 1. I always check the user profile to see if this is a "spam raid". If so I use the "leave a comment" to mod" with note that this user is leaving a lot of similar answers with purpose of exposing own blog. 2. If the link should be of exceptionally bad quality.
 
And the exception bubbles up and breaks everything else afterward.
 
@Nacimota: -^
 
Since you can't get the user ID from the email hash anymore, shouldn't there be a way to tell the system your IDs?
(data.SE)
 
8:04 PM
@user13500 since it's the first posts queue, they won't have a history of similar posts but I'll keep that in mind if I see a similar answer while just browsing the site
 
@3ventic Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 
>:]
 
@Nacimota: Sometimes even in first post queue you can find that.
 
But yes, that's also on my todo list.
 
;)
 
8:05 PM
@Nacimota: Typically the answer you are reviewing is the first of N similar answers of a 1pt user.
@Nacimota: But, then again, I'm no authority on the subject as I'm rather fresh to the review game myself. Sharing my experiences so far ... :)
 
@user13500 Link-only answers without quite a good description about what is behind the link are IMO stuff which should just get deleted (unless poster is open to editing) or converted to comments. I think answer should have, at the minimum, enough information, so that if the link breaks because the page moves, somebody can fix it.
 
this is the one I was looking at stackoverflow.com/questions/15441438/…
I think it's probably still helpful but might be better as a comment
 
@hyde: I totally agree. I could start being more strict on the topic. Thus far I have mainly flagged if it is to users own blog. Or as in one example where it was not a link only answer, but a acronym-link-only-answer ... :)
 
Answers like "Here is official MSDN documentation for good error handling" are not just bad, they can scar a careless clicker for life.
 
also it occurs to me that the site he links to is in fact his own site
or at least his username is the same as the name in the copyright notice
@hyde again, that seems like the sort of thing that belongs in a comment rather than an answer to me
 
8:20 PM
@Nacimota Yep, exactly, it should be a comment.
 
I think it would be different if they provided a link and quoted a relevant section of the page though
 
Is there somewhere to look at flag response like the ones we can look at with e.g. edit suggestions?
Typically rejected by, approved by etc.?
 
@Nacimota Well, I commented and flagged that 2-links-only answer...
 
@user13500 Yeah, go to your profile page and click the number of helpful flags.
 
@hyde Yep I just saw that as I was writing my own comment
I was going to link to this in a comment:
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A: Are answers that just contain links elsewhere really "good answers"?

devinbI think that links are fantastic, but they should never be the only piece of information in your answer. An analogy would be if you are standing at 100 Main St. and you ask where 98 Main St. is. A good answer would be "It is the next building over". points at building If you instead inc...

 
8:30 PM
@hichris123: Yes, that gives me rejected/pending etc. but no history beyond that. I guess there is a #N-reviews on flags as with e.g. edits.
 
and the "how to answer" section of the help center
 
@Nacimota: You might find this useful: stackapps.com/questions/2116/… You can edit and add your own.
 
@user13500 that looks interesting; I'm on IE11 atm though so I would have to change browsers
 
@Nacimota: Ah, OK. Sure there should be a way to make it IE compatible. I'm on Linux with XP only as virtual box for now. No IE11 there ... :P
 
IE has improved a lot over the last few years but extension support is still rubbish; probably just easier to jump to chrome if I care enough
 
8:36 PM
@Nacimota You're on IE11? Mind doing something for me?
 
@hichris123 what do you need
 
@Nacimota Just go to hichris.erwaysoftware.com/instaglass and post a screenshot of what you see (trying to figure out if a display issue is IE9 only, or all versions of IE).
 
Used FF as standard when I was on Windows. Now I'm in a cross on FF/Chrome under Linux. I like Chrome but thinks Google is scary.
 
I'm not completely satisfied with any of the big three browsers tbh
 
@Nacimota Thank you! I guess it's IE9 specific (yay!).
 
8:39 PM
@Nacimota: Gee, you are fast ... :P
 
I like the interface in IE9+ though and particularly the tab management
also they rebuilt the dev tools from scratch in IE11 so now the only really terrible thing is the addon support
 
Yes, dev tools on IE has improved a great deal form what I understand.
But is the tab management in IE11 worse then IE9 ?
 
I don't think it has changed much; it's been a while since I used IE9
what was it that you didn't like about it?
 
Happy ln(9)/ln(2) Day!
 
OK. Miss read you then. Thought you meant you prefered IE9 tab management over IE11
 
8:45 PM
No, what I meant was I prefer the new interface that they put in IE9 which is when Microsoft finally admitted to themselves "you know what, this is pretty shit; why don't we throw most of this out and start again"
 
@Doorknob: One day late? 17'th here :P Round by 2?
 
@user Rounding, yes :-P
(I just discovered Wolfram Alpha's closed form feature and have been (ab)using it ever since :-P)
 
No, you just give it a decimal number and it spits out possible ways to get it.
I can't wait for 10/pi Day tomorrow!
 
8:53 PM
Lol
Apparently I'm 3 days old
 
Well, by that age you had only learned batch I guess :)
As you are from Texas. I have always wondered. Does Texans find the depiction of themselves in movies and TV-series to be "fun accurate", "fun inaccurate", "bad accurate", etc. I'm rather fascinated by the US, and have only visited NY and DC.
Are declined and disputed flags bad for rep in any way?
 
no
 
9:19 PM
Hmm. OK. Because I have one declined and one rejected. The declined one was when I checked answer from a user posting two identical answers on which mainly was link to own blog. Later both answers are deleted and a newer longer answer reside. I then ask myself if my judgement at the moment was bad or correct. Esp. as there is no way (at least for me) to review any history.
"User has two "answers" so far – both mainly only promoting own blog. – user13500 2 days ago declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it"
When I flagged it I strongly took into consideration that the user was a 1 year 7 month member.
As he was with no answers or questions I considered this to perhaps be a repeat offence and as such flagged it.
As, if this was done before, the account would typically show no answers if they were earlier removed.
Though, if the reject/decline rate has no impact or meaning it's nothing to bother with perhaps.
 
having too many flags rejected can get you banned from flagging for a while, but there are no consequences on main site participation
 
9:39 PM
Yeah. I am perhaps sounding rather petulant but it is as much a question about "is this wrong action" as anything else. Though I have to admit that I do disagree with both the decline and the rejection.
As it shows both has also later been removed, – as such I might mostly find it more irritating then anything else.
Yes, I can be childish.
 
10:00 PM
Really?
 
10:12 PM
@user13500 I haven't lived here for long, but I can say that it's vastly inaccurate. :-P When I moved from Chicago to where I am now, the only difference I noticed was that it's warmer and sometimes people say "y'all".
 
10:24 PM
@Doorknob: Heh. Yes, I'll have to experience it for myself. I have this thing that I often like the stereotypical portray, be it good or bad. Wind to warmth does not sound too bad though.
Though I'm not sure how bad the wind thing is in Chicago. It's perhaps more affecting stable weather more then anything else.
Guess The Great Lake might give some sort of ocean like changes. I do not know.
 
10:39 PM
Yesterday is haunting.
 
11:16 PM
Let the fun begin. >:)
 
11:28 PM
@animuson Let the flagging begin!
 
@jmac soon == planning stage. 6-8 weeks == active development.
 
@Shog9 "it's a matter of months, not years" == it ain't ever getting done. probably.
 
@Shog9 how does soon differ from soon™
 
Yeah, any timeframe that doesn't involve something being delivered in a matter of weeks == "no one wants to do this"
 
And here I was, sitting around for 2 hours doing absolutely nothing at work today.
 
11:59 PM
You would fit in perfectly in Japan.
1) I will consider it = no
2) I will get it done = I won't do it
3) I will do it by next Friday = I will start when you call me next Friday to ask me when it will be done
4) I will do it as soon as possible = I may get it to you by next Friday
5) When do you need it by? = I will only do it if forced
 
@Shog9 Well, what do people actually want to work on?
 
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