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12:02 AM
gasp! The hats!!! They're gone!
hatsaredownforeveryoneorjustme.com
 
Oh no.
They're taking their commitment to UTC seriously.
Those bastards.
 
Monsters.
Savages!
 
Moderators!
 
^--- that!
 
Here's something we need:
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Q: A Way to See How Many Days You Hit the Cap

Lance RobertsWe used to be able to go to the reputation page, and see the complete calculation of reputation, and at the end of that it would show us how many days we hit the rep cap. This was useful for us to see how close we were to the Epic and Legendary badges. http://meta.stackoverflow.com/reputatio...

 
12:12 AM
My hats! NOOOOOOO!!!!
 
I was hoping they really meant tomorrow at UTC.
I did tons of tag work, but could never get the Cool hat.
 
Haaattsssss!
@balpha you couldn't let us have them for just a few more minutes? ;(
 
I hate it when I forget the posts I needed to make.
I know I had one more.
 
12:33 AM
@LanceRoberts I was tempted to vote to close that as a dupe of the status-completed '09 post =P
 
Glad you didn't, they really need to fix that thing, one way or another.
I'd be satisfied if they just fixed the reputation page, but it'd be nicer in the profile.
 
Agreed. It would be nice to have that number somewhere. Though I think I've seen a post or two on Meta saying that the badge progress is intentionally not there.
To make them more of a surprise or whatever.
 
The other badge you can't figure your progress out on is the Archeologist badge, but I finally got that one on Meta, long after I had it on SO.
 
How do you figure out how far you are to Strunk and White?
 
12:47 AM
Look in the suggested edit review queue.
 
@Lance Huh? And anyway, I'm under 3K.
 
Hold on, verifying.
 
@hichris123 Suggested edits queue, then hover over the green progress bar.
Man. I forgot where that was.
 
Well actually :), it shows you the copy editor, even when your next in line editing badge is Strunk & White. you can only approximate via the line on the bar.
 
Yep, thanks both!
@Lance You can hover over it and see the number.
 
12:52 AM
Yeah, it shows you actual numbers then.
 
That's true, you can get the exact number at least.
 
@hichris123 Sorry, had to step out for a minute.
(or an hour :P)
 
@Undo Life goes on without you.
 
D:
 
Apparently I can't type.
 
1:10 AM
Wow, didn't know the deletion vote max was so low.
 
 
1 hour later…
2:22 AM
@jadarnel27 Nice, I dig.
 
@ElfSlice Today's listening, please?
 
7 hours ago, by jadarnel27
Today's listening (what? ElfSlice hasn't been around today)
Already been covered I see. ;]
 
But... me wants yours!
 
@hichris123 Hmmm.... how about this?
I suspect that won't be very popular in here.
 
@ElfSlice You have to link it as Today's Listening.
 
2:33 AM
ಠ_ಠ
 
3:31 AM
is it worth deleting a technical answer that tries to address the OP's concern, but fundamentally wrong, flawed, and does not actually address it, and also got downvotes?
IMO, it is, since it is just noise.
 
@LaszloPapp Just downvote it. IMHO
 
what is the point of the noise?
 
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A: Blatantly wrong accepted answer

wafflesYour options are: Downvote it Comment on it and on the question, hope people read your comments. Edit away and fix stuff Flag it Post a question on meta asking for people to downvote it :) As a moderator: You can delete in extreme cases (e.g.: how do I rotate my photos: accepted answer f...

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A: What should we do in the event that an answer is absolutely incorrect?

Danny BeckettDownvote One of the main reasons to downvote is to indicate a wrong answer. Other than that, you can comment on it, pointing out why it is incorrect. See Blatantly wrong accepted answer for more info.

@LaszloPapp Example please?
 
3:47 AM
You leave it with downvotes to show people the bloody corpse.
 
4:14 AM
This is NAA, right O meta people?:
-1
A: Minimum size meteoroids for meteorites on Earth, Mars, and the Moon?

SparrThis question requires more data to answer. The composition and construction of the meteoroid is a major factor. A ball of solid iron could be much smaller than a ball of nickel and carbon full of pockets.

 
4:24 AM
@Undo Me thinks so.
I read it at first as O mod people.
Maybe I need to go to sleep sometime...
 
Sigh, no more winter bash, no more hats...
 
@AaronHall I think you meant HATS.
 
???
 
4:44 AM
@AaronHall It wasn't bolded and capitalized.
 
... And it's owner-deleted.
 
@Undo Can you see owner-deletes with 10K?
 
@hichris123: yes
 
5:00 AM
@Laszlo Thanks.
 
@hichris123 yes. Just not in the tool list.
 
@Undo What's with the colors?
 
@hichris which colors?
 
@Undo Profile pic.
 
Oh, I figured I should switch out of winter mode to make myself happier :P
So orange/red it is.
 
5:05 AM
That's summer.
And it's still winter.
 
Winter? It's summer! How could you say it's still cold and desolate outside?
closes window
Brrr. It is cold.
I need a blanket.
Someone turn the winter off.
 
Say that to my soon-to-be foot of snow and -22ish. :P
 
Anyway, I've got to go to bed in my heated house.
Heat!
Much better than cold.
 
Me too.
 
Adios, people.
 
5:09 AM
Adiós.
@Undo Come on, accents?
 
is it useful to be a 20 k user?
I mean, it does not seem to have much additional gain, nor the 15 k.
 
You could cast delete votes on those downvoted answers you don't like.
 
You can make tag wikis without have to do a suggested edit.
 
5:26 AM
@jadarnel27: yes, I know, I have read the privilege entry of course, but I do not find it that useful.
most people seem to prefer to leave the crap around. :(
so your delete vote would be overriden by these people.
@LanceRoberts: yes, I know, as written above, but honestly: how often do you edit tags? Rarely, and even that, they are approved very fast.
 
A bit.
 
Also, I think it is better to get reviews for them always.
since they drive the spirit of the tag and community around.
 
5:43 AM
So what do moderators like to see in users starting to climb out of the hundreds in rep?
 
They like to see them wear lots of hats.
 
5:58 AM
Heya! I guess I am little late , Anyway Happy new year guys
:D
@Lix Hey How are you buddy ?
 
Looks like the "answer only pure questions" crowd is out:
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A: Two kindsa love (or "What questions are the SE network designed for?")

Lance RobertsAnswer them if you can, all questions deserve answers. If it is a simple error on the part of the user that caused the problem then close it. We use to have the Too Localized reason for that, now I have to make a decision every time about what reason to use since none of them really work for th...

 
 
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7:52 AM
@LanceRoberts I'm actually with you there. If answering the question fits within your ability and time you want to give, then .. answer the darn question. We run into trouble any time we try to make it any more complicated than that.
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@TinyTim, thanks, didn't think anyone was with me on that one.
 
And to this "but there's no incentive to improve such questions" I counter - how could the possibly be improved? It's a very specific question that applies to something that only the author is likely to encounter. How, pray tell, would putting that on hold accomplish anything meaningful?
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Yeh, still wish they'd bring back the Too Localized reason, or give me a good equivalent of it. I spend so much time when I try to close those picking the right reason.
You'd think I'd have it down by now, but it seems I re-analyze it each time.
 
@LanceRoberts I find myself missing it too, but the problem with it is - too many people used it for "I don't like this and can't find any reason that fits"
We took it away, and as anticipated, folks are complaining that they don't like certain questions but can't find a reason to close them. That could mean, you know, that the question doesn't really need to be closed.
 
Heh, yep, that's a good point.
 
7:56 AM
Give me some time to compose an answer to that, I need to put a bit of thought into it before I post.
 
k, I'll see it in the morning, good night.
 
Crap questions are crap questions because of plenty of other reasons. Incoherent, way too broad, requiring an entire book to be written as an answer, etc, etc. That's bad quality, and we need to keep it out.
@LanceRoberts Take care :)
 
 
1 hour later…
9:12 AM

My j'j are gone! Give them back to me!

Nov 8 '10 at 15:32, 22 minutes total – 24 messages, 8 users, 3 stars

Bookmarked Nov 8 '10 at 16:04 by Yi Jiang

Seemed relevant.
 
 
3 hours later…
12:12 PM
wow, accepted and alternative answers with -2: stackoverflow.com/questions/20881480/how-to-play-video-with-qt5
:D
 
12:25 PM
@LaszloPapp You probably attracted those downvotes before your latest edit...
 
@rene: eh?
@rene: the latest edit just put irrelevant help into the answer to be even more complete, even though it was not strictly necessary. Note that the answer stood its an own as selected even before that.
in fact, I could rolled that back now without any problem, but I am being just nice there. Certain OPs require a lot of hand-holding.
 
I agree with that
Some people hit the downvote wheen they see a link and no code...
And they don't accept 'NO' as an answer :-)
 
this is not a "NO" answer.
and it was not a link. I think you misread.
actually it grabbed the external link content in.
and it did not say no, it did provide a way how to achieve what he wants.
 
Yep, you did, it is a nice answer, it didn't deserve the downvotes
 
thanks. I do not worry much; it is just funny.
I also got one downvote when C++14 added a new feature, and I posted it in a relevant old thread. :D
I guess it is ok until -3, i.e. -2 is still ok, or selected answers cannot be greyed at -3 and below?
 
12:39 PM
SO seems like a huge mess from the outside..
 
@3ventic: what do you mean?
 
All the big languages seem to be like sub-communities, each with their own standards
lots of random up and down voting
I guess it's just a perspective I've gotten from reading meta so much
I posted a very bad question under php, which I later removed. Got 3 upvotes on it in the short time that it existed
Posted a good javascript question, no votes
 
I do not even contribute to a big language tag, just one little framework. :)
which I have not used lately, and will not use it any soon either, lol.
 
I used to browse the php tag before I got to 200 rep
Then I figured I'm no use on SO and went elsewhere
 
no use on SO? Why?
Wherever else?
 
12:47 PM
Post a good answer -> 0-2 upvotes
Post a bad answer -> downvoted to oblivion within minutes
 
I wish I saw the latter happening....
 
That's my new home on SE.
I always end up deleting my downvoted posts
except on site metas
 
I see lots of upvoted and fundamentally wrong answers. :(
 
That's another problem.
 
the only thing that bugs me is certain people take the downvote too personal
 
12:49 PM
And a big problem with all of SE is that high rep users seem to attract more upvotes than new users
 
and they fire back with abrupt downvotes for your posts as a childish revenge
 
@3ventic SO is a huge mess
 
luckily, it does not happen too often, but it happens that they call you names like "dude, you like downvoting"
 
I've seen loads of questions where a new user has posted a great answer and only got ~2 upvotes
 
people who use SO will try to defend it, but that is because they too are messes
 
12:49 PM
What should I reply? Dude, you cannot write good answers? :D
 
a high rep user comes and posts almost the same answer and gets loads of upvotes
 
"And a big problem with all of SE is that high rep users seem to attract more upvotes than new users" -> I actually see the opposite.
 
the best of it is, the only time I've ever had to ask a question on SO, it got the tumbleweed badge and never received an answer
 
new users get lots of upvotes for good answers to get enough rep for privileges.
 
I bountied it, got asked 5-10 comments asking questions that I'd already clearly stated in the question
and then gave up
 
12:50 PM
and users like me responding in a subarea all the time are just doing the regular stuff
so they do not get the regular upvote for everything.
 
SO is just full of hoards of people who don't read and jump in with comments, robo reviewers, and people asking the same questions over and over again
 
The biggest problem with SO is that it's too big.
 
no such thing as too big
oh, context
 
That only works on the bridge
 
@3ventic: then perhaps I do not count as a high-rep user.
For me, high-rep does not matter.
There was a 60k+ person or something like that writing incorrect things, and he wanted to defend himself with things like how old he is on this site, etc. :D Now, that was strange, and then luckily, I got him deleting his comment.
@3ventic: I see users around my rep with a lot more upvoted answers... I think it depends a lot on the particular tag.
i.e. C++ answers get more attention than a specialized framework tag.
 
12:58 PM
rep above 10k doesn't really matter
 
I have to agree, I think. 20k would be nice with the delete vote for answers if people were willing to delete bad answers, but I get flags rejected.
"this poor answer author tried to address the issue, but s/he could not manage it"
that would not be an excuse for me to instantly cast the delete vote. :D
 
Wrong answers aren't worth deleting in my opinion and bad answers should simply be improved
 
wrong posts make me cry on SO.
lotta nonsense noise.
 
Wrong posts should be downvoted to say "Hey, this is something you could have done, but know you know not to do this"
In some cases downvoted wrong answers can be just as helpful as correct answers
 
I disagree.
always propagate the right thing, rather than the bad thing IMO
it is not like opensource wikis are full of bad stuff
they write what you should do, and why.
it would be rather noisy to have 100 bad ways among 1-2 good in a thread.
especially if you are already aware of how not to do it, and you are looking for: how to do it.
but I guess it is fine to agree to disagree. :) It is somewhat opinionated.
@3ventic: many people will not downvote due to the -1, if the bad posts were deleted, they would not be afraid to downvote them.
 
 
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3:45 PM
Ahoy
 
rofl:
user image
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There's no way those are potential socks. No way whatsoever.
 
I really should make myself a sock puppet and try to get it up to 3k somewheres.
 
@Undo HAhahahahahahahaha.
 
Meh, I'd rather you'd get me up to 3k. @Undo
 
3:50 PM
Hehe
 
I'm actually at 1,555 rep.
 
That would be...
umm
not
 
Your chat profile says you have 489
 
right.
@ElfSlice Chat profiles here are only for meta.
 
Yep.
1,555 is SO rep.
 
3:50 PM
Wtf, mine doesn't even have a number
 
@ElfSlice 478?
Me sees it.
 
Parent user.
 
oh
 
Bold number.
 
3:51 PM
okay but yours has it under your avatar
...nope, nevermind
 
Okay, I thought I was going crazy.
 
I will never review a suggested edit again
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@DoorknobofSnow There's a sekrit hidden feature that at 2,000 reviews tells you to get a life.
2
 
@hichris123 what's a "life" again?
 
3:54 PM
@DoorknobofSnow A horse?
I think it's a horse.
 
@hichris123 No there isn't. I've been there and it didn't happen:
 
@hichris123 but it will want me to feed it, and I won't have as much time to be on SO
 
Okay, then 3,000 @Undo.
 
reviews edits
 
@DoorknobofSnow That's the point, me thinks.
 
3:56 PM
:(
 
 
4 hours later…
7:52 PM
ydthnsejkgtlnisertb
 
@ElfSlice Please type these letters to make sure you are a human: I am not a robot, I am a human.
 
@hichris123 I'm wearing two pairs of pants.
 
@ElfSlice You typed in the correct words! Congratulations. Now your account has been destroyed because you are a bot.
 
I thought that was going to go to an XKCD.
 
8:51 PM
Why would one wear two pairs of pants?
 
Because it's cool.
Outside, I mean.
 
@Pëkka It's cold. Soon to be -25 with a wind chill of -45 to -50. brr
 
9:07 PM
@hichris123 yeah, totally. Cold times ahead, ugh.
 
@Pëkka I see you're in Philly. How much snow are you going to get?
 
I wear two pairs of pants so I can sag without embarrassing my mom.
:D
that's a joke
 
9:35 PM
@hichris123 Philly is not going to be that badly affected, according to what I've seen. A couple of inches but nothing big. It looks more serious up north, and around the Great Lakes....
 
@Pëkka I'm in the heart of it. Foot+
 
@hichris123 wow!
Been a long time since I've seen that kind of snow.
 
@Pëkka On Monday it's a high of 16 here and a low of -15. I'm not sure how that works.
(Celsius, of course)
 
@TimStone wow.
@TimStone thanks for being so considerate :)
 
@Pëkka Yeah, they're predicting 8-13 inches, and then we get high of like -6 and low of -24. *F, of course.
 
9:37 PM
I find myself constantly Googling stuff like 3.5oz to grams and 32 degrees Fahrenheit to Celsius
 
@Pëkka I don't do Fahrenheit anyway, heh.
Everyone looks at me funny :(
 
@hichris123 -24 F? Wow.
That's... Siberian temperatures.
 
@Pëkka Yep. And possible wind chil of -45 to -55 F.
 
Wow.
 
-54 F in Duluth this week, apparently.
 
9:39 PM
I wish I was somewhere else this week.
 
@TimStone yeah. Having lived in the country for a couple of months now, I'm no longer optimistic that the US will join us in our metric shenanigans :)
America will go metric when there's -30° in hell
... Fahrenheit, of course.
 
@Pëkka I had to figure out how many ounces were in a quart the other day and I just threw my hands up in the air and asked what the hell?
 
@Pëkka Why would we use metric?
 
Also when we went to buy chicken stock and the container was measured by weight instead of volume and we needed two cups, although that's not strictly an issue of not using metrics but just one of silly packaging. :P
 
@hichris123 well, it's been a strong trend worldwide, even the UK has largely faltered. A worldwide standard would be cool.
But then, I can totally see why one would not want to switch. I wouldn't want to, either, seeing how difficult I find it to adjust to a different one
 
9:42 PM
@Pëkka I don't know how hard it would be to switch. I wonder...
 
@hichris123 it would definitely take some time.
 
@TimStone I look forward to hearing about your lawsuit against that manufacturer in Superior Court of the District of Eastern Mars.
 
@hichris123 I think the difficulty is in intuitively grasping the new system. Your body has an intuitive memory of how much an ounce is or a pound; mine, how much a hundred grams are, or half a kilo. I imagine it takes ages for that to change.
 
@Pëkka That really makes me want an acedemic study on it.
 
@hichris123 that would be interesting.
Let me check
 
9:53 PM
Okay.
 
@Pops I'm drafting the papers as we speak.
 
@hichris123 can't find anything easily.
Lots of discussion about pros and cons etc. but nothing scientific about how people respond to a system change.
 
@Pëkka Huh. I'm not in a position to do that study, sadly. :P
 
Perhaps there's no research? Although that sounds like something that would have been done at some point.
@hichris123 lol, maybe I should keep a diary
 
The National Institute of Standards and Technology tried for a long time to get the US onto metric. Not sure if that effort is ongoing.
 
9:58 PM
@Pëkka Day 1: I hate the Imperial system. Day 365: I hate the Metric system. There you go.
 
@hichris123 YEAH
 
@hichris123 lol
BUY IT
 
Why is it governments sponsor research that winds up behind paywalls?
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If you click on it from the Google Scholar link you get the whole thing.
 
10:05 PM
agbejkvrbsdf
 
Not sure why.
 
Hmm price discrimination.
 
@Pëkka Cocunuts are very close to the metric and imperial system, right?
 
Free if you're smart, $40 if you're dumb.
We should have a donation page.
Free if you're a tightwad who likes ads, pay if you're thankful for SO.
 
10:09 PM
I probably would be willing to pay FB not to show me stupid ads, but they'd rather overcharge companies for my attention.
 
@Pops Are you implying that Stack Exchange is part of the US government? That's... scary.
 
No, that's just always what I think of when I hear "donation page."
 
Heh.
 
10:52 PM
Any moderator in the house ?
*tavern?
 
@MilchePatern Why? (*not a mod, certain exclusions apply.) :P
 
All drunk again! This is winter hollydays .. haha ,.,
@hichris123 i needed advices on managing one of my question.
 
@MilchePatern @Pops is kind of a mod, I guess. :P (community manager)
 
Greetings Doorknob of show.
 
*Snow
@Doorknob When are you changing your name back?
 
10:55 PM
*snow
 
@hichris123 idk, whenever I\'m not too lazy :P
okay, I think I've been coding too much. I just tried to escape a single quote in chat :(
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anyway, doorknob, i need some advices about a question i've made inspired from another one .. and i am not sure if it is to become 'duplication' or downvoted 'cos the other OP might be mad ... or something like.
 
@MilchePatern ??? link?
 
My post : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20592932/jquery-match-elements-with-style-font-size-in-px

Other post : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20592165/increase-font-size-of-whole-web-page-on-button-click-event-using-jquery/
@hichris123 your advices are welcomed too.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about
 
10:59 PM
Do you see a duplication between the 2 questions <?
 
Maybe this:
I posted this question (inspired from yours) asking for help about the regex filtering : jquery match elements with style font-size in px. After re-tinking about your situation, i invite you to edit your question title for clarity.
 
... ?
 
I'm not too sure.
I don't know my .
 
hichris, i needed advices if i shoud or not delete my question.
about the javascript, i could remake an answer with other users code.
 
@MilchePatern You confuse me so much when you have two different user names. Just had to look at the linked profiles.
Anyway, I don't know.
 
11:05 PM
Wo, i didnot notice that my user name wasn't changes globally.
i fix this first
Humm .. avatar and name didn't change.
 
I think it would be better to just make your question completely independent of that other one, @MilchePatern. It's sort of...unnecessarily confusing.
Also, your name / picture will change on chat soon. They are just cached is all.
 
Ok, thanks
Is there a way to change and apply a profile globally on stackexchange ?
 
@MilchePatern Yeah, there's a 'copy to all network profiles' button or something at the bottom.
 
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A: Can I have a common account across the Stack Exchange family of sites?

3venticAs long as you have associated accounts, you can choose to synchronize your profile with every site using the button offered when editing: Your network profile will keep track of all your accounts on SE sites, and OpenID will make sure you only need one login for all SE sites. In fact, as long...

 
gool
cool + good = gool
 
11:20 PM
And there is an option on your SE profile to sync with your oldest account.
 
Whatever happened to @Bart?
Where did he go?!
 
Thanks for you advices about 'global profile' ... it is just here on this chat that it is not applied .. and i could not understand if it was a 'refresh' situation or something else.
 
@MilchePatern No worries, it just takes longer for chat to catch up =)
 
@jadarnel27 thanks.
@jadarnel27 I edited my question to remove any relations with the other one.
 
11:50 PM
Can people access Stack Overflow?
 
i access stack overflow
 
yes
 
Huh, I'm getting the spinning wheel of death on Chrome and IE.
Though I can get to other sites just fine, but no SE sites.
 
If you keep on pressing F5 you might get the blue screen of death
 
Nevermind, back up.
 

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