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2:00 PM
@DoorknobofSnow Ok, what's n?
 
okay, I'm arbitrarily declaring that the spam-detector-izer-er is officially out of beta! :P
@Undo the element that the MutationObserver saw appear
 
@DoorknobofSnow Ok.
 
I have to go to school; I'll leave the detector-izer-er on while I'm away
 
cya
 
I removed the no-spaces-in-title check because all were false positives :P
and I removed the requirement of word boundaries because the spammers are getting smarter
 
2:01 PM
@DoorknobofSnow oh, didn't saw the previous statement... you are inside a loop
 
@ShadowWizard His latest answer is a c/p from java2s.com/Code/Java/Swing-JFC/…
 
@Bart He's also posted at least two duplicate answers.
This and this. Just reading the questions to determine if they are indeed duplicates.
 
Wow, even this answer of his is a copy, though with attribution.
 
@Duncan @Bart @ShadowWizard --- noobs. Never heard of de-normalization? he is denormalizating answers so that we may then browse SO directly inside Excel, in a nice pivot table view :P
 
@Bart in such case better add link, make it as a quote and put comment. If he steal answers, time to flag and hopefully suspension
 
2:05 PM
turning Stack databases in an olap cube, duplicated data after duplicated data ^_^
 
Note: those questions weren't duplicates after all, despite his duplicate answers.
 
@ShadowWizard Did exactly that. And added a nice flag on top. The source site has no indication of allowing such copying, so a mod can decide what to do with the post.
 
@DoorknobofSnow by the way, any way to shut your bot down in case it starts flooding?
 
@ShadowWizard close the realtime tab :P
although only I can do that
 
@Bart cool, fair enough. :)
 
2:08 PM
It's rate limited anyway :P
 
I should make a "panic" command and only let users I trust have access :P
 
@DoorknobofSnow leave us a TeamViewer ID and password so we can do it for you ;)
 
Good idea.
 
!!panic
oh
 
btw:
0
Q: Freehand red circles

Doorknob of SnowOver on http://meta.stackoverflow.com, we have a few memes of our own. One of them is Freehand Red Circles. See this post: So, the challenge is, can you draw freehand red circles... with code? This is a popularity-contest, so the answer with the most upvotes at the beginning of March 2014...

:D
 
2:09 PM
@SpamHunter1337 !!shutdown
 
Ok, I have my bot looking for java questions. Let's see if it works :P
 
@ShadowWizard No worky :P
 
lol
@Undo looking for spam Java question you mean?
 
@ShadowWizard No, any java question :P
 
2:10 PM
and what will it do with them?
 
@ShadowWizard Post it here if it works.
And it just recognized it but got stuck on the posting part ;(
 
but there are LOTS of them... :waiting:
How you try to post from server side?
 
@ShadowWizard The same way Doorknob's does.
	function alertTheTavern(msg) {
	    if (typeof GM_xmlhttpRequest === "undefined") return
	    GM_xmlhttpRequest({
	        method: "POST",
	        url: "http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/chats/89/messages/new",
	        data: "text=" + encodeURIComponent('[SE-spam-detector-izer] ' + msg) + "&fkey=" + fkey,
	        headers: { "Content-Type": "application/x-www-form-urlencoded" }
	    })
	}
 
Doorknob's is client side
 
Yes, but mine is on PhantomJS
So it shouldn't matter.
 
2:12 PM
but is the bot logged in?
 
Wait, I don't need that GM_xml thingy
@ShadowWizard I have the fkey in it.
 
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14081/… (Vashikaran Astrology Remedies Spell+91-9829810409)
 
fkey isn't enough on its own
 
I think it is.
 
nope, once tried posting comment from one account with fkey of other account and it failed
Hello Andrew Barber!
 
2:13 PM
huh. odd
Hiya @AndrewBarber
 
they do some sanity check that the fkey is really yours
 
checked ^^^^ ;-)
 
we should start migrating the spam to Security.StackExchange
 
so in theory, if I give away my fkey I'm still safe :)
 
@Undo Hey there; Just popping in for a minute or two for pinging purposes :)
 
2:14 PM
maybe it will upset someone there
 
Sssst @Undo. Be quiet. If you don't make a sound, an @AndrewBarber won't know you're there.
 
@Bart Hey... who's that yappin' in the corner?
 
Dammit @Undo. See what you've done!!
Hi @AndrewBarber ...
 
Bwahaha. And stuff.
 
Am I going crazy? Look at this question and check the answer from Abin. Then check this question and find the almost duplicate answer from Abin. Click "share" on each answer and observe that the link presented is the same on both.
 
2:17 PM
Huh wha?
 
@Undo You see that too, or am I the crazy one?
 
Nope
19374402
19374442
That's not the same
 
Pretty close, though ;)
 
Ok. I just can't read, apparently.
 
2:18 PM
It's the ape, he needs glasses, @Duncan
@Bart already flagged so guess we just have to wait.
 
In the meantime, I've voted to close one of those questions as a duplicate of the other. In case anyone wants to pile in and help...
 
well, he changed the answer to be original, better undelete it
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/217882/152859
 
on my way @Duncan
 
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14083/… (Vashikaran Astrology Remedies Spell baba+91-9829810409)
 
@Duncan VTCed
 
2:23 PM
14 sec old when I got to it. This is awesome :D
 
flagged
 
WHERE DO ALL THE JAVA QUESTIONS GO WHEN YOU WANT THEM???
 
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14084/… (Vashikaran mantra in Hindi spell+91-9829810409)
 
java is banned
 
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5969/… (Common Marriage Problems solution +91-9636595333)
 
2:30 PM
@ShadowWizard You were right - it won't let me post with my fkey ;(
 
@Undo I know. been there, though not with a bot
Server side need to use the API
 
@ShadowWizard There isn't a chat API ;(
 
but there is server side chat bot
let me find it
 
Oh, I tried to set that up once. No dice.
I'll just roll my own.
 
18
Q: RebolBot - a chat bot for the chat rooms

Graham Chiu RebolBot is a chat bot with a natural English dialect interface, specifically targeting the StackOverflow chat rooms. Yet it has a modular design, can post tweets to Twitter, and could be modified with only a little effort to work with other chat systems. An instance of the bot hangs out...

this one?
Not sure how it's working, maybe you can login via the API, get a token then assign it as cookie in the XMLHTTP request you send in your code
 
2:33 PM
No, I tried Zirak's
No reason you can't just log in via chat itself in PhantomJS, right?
 
not familiar with PhantomJS but the bot I have is pure client side, using my own login session
when server side, you don't have such session to begin with
 
Yes, I'm going to make that session.
 
Cool, that will be nice! :)
Half of Meta front page is red, love it when the devs go on cleanup spree
Hello jadarnel27!
 
ReferenceError: Can't find variable: $
Uh-oh :P
 
Yup, JS not loaded when sending raw request
 
2:48 PM
var page = require('webpage').create();
page.open('https://meta.stackoverflow.com/users/login?returnurl=http%3a%2f%2fchat.meta.stackoverflow.com%2f', function() {
  page.includeJs("http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.6.1/jquery.min.js", function() {
    page.evaluate(function() {
      $("#se-login").click();
    });
    phantom.exit()
  });
});
Anyone see anything dumb?
 
Yes
 
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] Allcaps title: stackoverflow.com/questions/21434495/php-nested-array (PHP NESTED ARRAY)
 
false positive
 
@DoorknobofSnow Not any more :P
@rene What?
 
Hello World Engineer!
lol
 
user170979
2:51 PM
@ShadowWizard hi
 
@rene no, it was just edited super fast
What brings you back here @World after so much time? ;)
 
user170979
@ShadowWizard I clicked someone's picture link
 
@WorldEngineer and got here??
 
user170979
@ShadowWizard it was a linked picture not a user profile
 
All roads lead to the tavern on the meta.
 
2:57 PM
@WorldEngineer now I'm curious... what picture? :)
 
@Undo page.injectJs instead of includeJs
 
user170979
15 hours ago, by Shog9
user image
 
@rene I think the problem was that I needed to make and use page2 instead instead of using page for both loads. It works now
 
Hello ProgramFOX!
 
Hello!
 
2:58 PM
What up @Program? ;)
Well, the bot seems to encourage people to actually chat
 
Which bot?
 
Exactly.
 
@Undo OK, lets have it then...
 
@ProgramFOX the one that greeted you ;)
eh, just noticed that imgur started to actually redirect to removed.png
 
@ShadowWizard Huh wha? Where?
 
3:04 PM
It's actually i.imgur.com/ySksx.jpg
 
uh-oh
 
And redirecting to i.imgur.com/removed.png
> Status Code:302 Moved Temporarily
I'm still amused their URL's are case sensitive
So this one does work i.imgur.com/ySksX.jpg
Hello blade19899!
 
Hallo, saw this chat on the spam chat
 
Hola
 
Howdy
 
3:15 PM
bye
 
See, saying hello scares users away
 
hah
 
what was that all about??
spam chat?
 
@ShadowWizard We have a sekrit room for AU spam management.
 
@Undo me want! ;)
But what's the point of barging in here, saying "saw this chat on the spam chat" and leaving?
 
3:20 PM
\o/
 
Hello NullPoiиteя!
 
@ShadowWizard hola
 
@ShadowWizard Try requesting access here:
 
Tried, @rene thanks!
What's up @NullPoiиteя?
Did you find the welcome annoying? :D
 
having fun ,thankyou .. what about you ?
noop, not at all :D
 
3:25 PM
mm... chat.se went kaput?
 
@Braiam It did here too
 
Not much, a calm day
Yeah, for a minute or two
Probably those hackers with their DDoS attack
 
@Braiam here too
 
Hmm, is our spammer quiet, or escaping detection?
 
I wonder how far they'll get...
 
3:29 PM
@Undo hopefully not too far
But worst that can happen is downtime of some sites
 
My prediction: HAProxy whacks them very very quickly :P
 
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] Allcaps title: stackoverflow.com/questions/21435475/javascript-href-variable (JAVASCRIPT HREF VARIABLE)
 
@DoorknobofSnow lets close ?
 
@NullPoiиteя I VTC'd
 
@Undo so now delete ? may be that will quite rude ;)
 
now the spam detector is detecting even bad questions?
 
yup
 
Is this nitpicking or actual bug? I think actual bug, though pretty minor
1
Q: Trailing space on reputation score tooltip

kleinfreundThere is a trailing space after "reputation score" in the title attribute for the reputation score: title="reputation score ". First noticed on Code Review, but it also happens here or SO. Probably on all SE sites. If there was a minor-bug tag, I would've used this. Edit: Also appearing ...

 
It's a bitsize bug.
@Braiam The detector became sentient!
 
@DoorknobofSnow I think we can possibly rescue this.
 
3:43 PM
Leaving soon, if anyone wants to host the greeting bot the code is here. Just copy and paste as-is to Chrome console and it will greet any who join on your behalf
 
Why would I want to greet people? I hate them!
 
I'm off in an hour so I'm not a bot candidate
 
Got idea to make it actually useful, keep your eyes open! ;)
 
I would love to have a bot for meetings...
 
I should have one for client support. All it needs to say is "It's all in the manual".
 
3:52 PM
@Bart thought it's "blame caching"? :D
 
Unfortunately that one doesn't work with our clients. :s Even though the answer is always caching.
 
BOFH
 
@rene Bricks Of Fiery Hell?
 
Boiled On Five Hardhats
 
Aren't you away?
 
4:01 PM
@jokerdino me? not yet. or maybe I'm the bot?
 
@ShadowWizard Oh, you are the bot. I forgot. Does this chat room give that squeeky noise when pinged?
 
@jokerdino What squeeky noise?
 
@jokerdino Noise?
 
GAWD. That noise.
 
4:04 PM
LOL
Never heard it actually
No sound for me
 
It's better than chat.SE imo
 
Oh each site got its own ping sound?
 
@Duncan bingo
 
No. I am allergic to metallic scrubbing and rubbing.
 
The one on chat.SE sounds like a truck just crashed into your ear.
@ShadowWizard No, but all the chat networks have their own
 
4:05 PM
@3ventic so lower the volume perhaps? :)
 
chat.SE vs. chat.MSO
@ShadowWizard There's no volume slider..
 
what about chat.MSE? :D
 
Gives me goosebumps. The noise sounds like some unoiled part is rubbing against another.
 
We'll see
 
I am talking about bicycle parts.
 
4:05 PM
I like the tweetdeck sound alert most out of all I've heard so far
 
@jokerdino nice save
 
@3ventic this ^^
 
That doesn't work per-tab
 
oh
you and your tabs :D
 
I need my youtube sound :p
 
4:07 PM
@Bart Figured I had to close any open interpretations.
 
I guess I could make a js bookmark or userscript to set the volume
 
@3ventic what about this then?
 
I don't want it muted, though
 
20
Q: SE Chat custom notification sound

Lekensteyn Screenshot / Code Snippet About Someone found the current *beep* sound annoying and asked for a way to change the sound. Such a feature did not exist, so I created this UserScript which adds a button next to the notification settings button. This button opens a popup which allows you to ...

 
otherwise I never notice my pings
 
4:10 PM
Might help me
 
Too bad, can't control volume per tab
0
Q: Google Chrome adjust volume per tab

dtmlandIs it possible to adjust the volume of individual tabs in Google Chrome? I've found an extension that allows the volume to be muted, but it does not allow variable volumes.

Soon there will be direct connection to our brain so we can just think "reduce volume on this tab" and it will work. :-D
 
@ShadowWizard six to eight years?
 
6-8 weeks covers any date range, even beyond infinity
Hello jcolebrand!
My bot greeted 28 users today
"Chris", "rene", "3ventic", "animuson", "Doorknob of Snow", "Bart", "Jan Dvorak", "Laszlo Papp", "SPArchaeologist", "Daniel Fischer", "jokerdino", "Tim Post", "Duncan", "OGHaza", "hichris123", "Braiam", "Shadow of the Shadow", "gnat", "sudo rm -rf Telkitty", "Undo", "SpamHunter1337", "Andrew Barber", "jadarnel27", "World Engineer", "ProgramFOX", "blade19899", "NullPoiиteя", "jcolebrand"
c'ya guys!
 
begins work on a "see ya, wouldn't want to be ya" bot...
 
4:40 PM
user image
3
Snow in Charlotte.
 
oooh brown
 
@DoorknobofSnow You're using mutation observer? I should learn how to do that...
 
That is a good centimetre of snow?
 
@jadarnel27 Oh, that's snow! I initially thought that it was a cup of coffee with milk...
 
@rene You would think it was a foot, based on all the car accidents, school closures, etc. But yeah, it's maybe an inch or two total =)
@ProgramFox Hahaha, nice. I didn't think about how the lack of context would make it look.
 
4:53 PM
Freezing rain here.
Took dog for walk and dog dragged me around the neighborhood :P
 
Took dog for a walk and dog dragged me home before I got to the road
 
5:44 PM
test
Sandwiches
Hah!
@ShadowWizard I figured it out. It wants a yummy cookie to eat with the fkey.
another test
 
5:56 PM
Beware false-positive flood.
nevermind
 
Joe
6:16 PM
Having a discussion on a different SE site about the concept of 'discussion' and SE
I'm not on things other than SO much, except for now I am, but someone from a yet-different site started a question
that most definitely invited discussion - he intended it to
and I'm very confused, because my concept of SE in general is that it is specifically not intended to have discussions
 
Link?
 
Joe
0
Q: Why do some parents have a favorite (or least favorite) child?

Nick StaunerPlaying favorites with one's children is clearly a moral grey area at best...so why do we do it? I'm a personality psychologist by training, and particularly well-exposed to heritability research through my alma mater, so I can appreciate the power of genetic variation and individual experience o...

I know different SE sites work differently
but I didn't think it ever worked as 'discussion' site
...
and while perhaps you could ask that question in a useful, answerable way
the asker specifically states that he does want to discuss it
(and I don't think you really could ask that question in a useful way, other than asking for how you can avoid doing so perhaps)
 
It seems that the moderator there shares your point of view, given that he directs the user to chat
 
Joe
Well, yes, but this is not really a question of that specifically
It's a small beta site still working things out for itself
I'm more asking the generic
am I wrong to say SE is not about 'discussion' at all?
 
No. You're right about that.
 
Joe
6:21 PM
I realize I'm a bit towards the 'lawful good' if I were an RPG character
so I tend to stick to the letter of the law
but it surprised me to see someone arguing the opposite, who seems to be somewhat knowledgeable...
 
You mean the OP?
 
Gotta love when hiring managers using emoticons in official job correspondence...
 
Ooh, that kind of stuff annoys me terribly @animuson.
Btw, did anyone else here get mailed by the guy from slant.co?
 
Speaking of mail, I still haven't received my new year swag. :'(
 
New year swag?
 
6:25 PM
@animuson Same here.
 
@Bart I don't have friends on slant.co
 
@rene me neither. But the guy mailed me because he "just wanted to say thanks for suggesting our site on StackExchange"
 
Joe
@Bart Yeah, I mean the OP
 
And then he wanted an opinion on a new feature on slant.co
@Joe In that case your own questions are always more important than those pesky rules that get in the way of them. ;)
 
Joe
Haha... yes
 
6:32 PM
Man, I hate evaluating 3rd party solutions to a problem, only to find out after all that work that you'd be better off writing everything yourself.
 
Woo I start work again on the 25th. ^_^
 
New job?
 
Not really. Back to the Election Commission.
New position at the same place though.
 
Okay, cool though.
 
Joe
good luck!
 
6:48 PM
var fileUpload = $("#ContentPlaceHolder1_FileUpload_mediaFile").get(0); var files = fileUpload.files; var mediafilename = ""; for (var i = 0; i < files.length; i++) { mediafilename = files[i].name; } — Azhar Shahazad 14 mins ago
...k
 
Flag as rude/offensive?
 
How long does it take for a user to stop appearing in a chat room's ping list?
 
If you're already in the room they'll never disappear from that list unless you refresh.
 
Tim, my god. Is that you?
 
What about if you joined the room after they've left?
 
6:50 PM
I expected someone chubbier and rounder.
 
@jokerdino There are so many ways to misinterpret that... :P
 
I actually need to lose some weight, I gained several pounds while my girlfriend was pregnant. sigh
@animuson They shouldn't appear if they actually left.
I don't think, anyway. Otherwise my answer is 10 minutes.
 
@Undo I can't imagine any.
 
Hm? I thought they continued appearing in the list for like 48 hours or something. PS I'm talking about the auto-suggest list for pinging (when you type an @).
 
@jokerdino I.e. we just learned that Tim is a deity.
 
6:53 PM
@TimStone I thought it usually works the other way.
@animuson OK I leave, you leave. You enter and see if you can ping me.
 
@animuson Oh, no, I actually remembered how it works now
If you can see their message when you enter the room then you can get them autocompleted even if they aren't there.
@jokerdino Apparently it's quite common. I just...didn't lose the weight after she had our son.
 
Lunch time at school here
 
@DoorknobofSnow Hi. Me is working on a server-side always-running spam whacker.
 
6:56 PM
@TimStone o_O
 
Joe
@jokerdino It's very common for the husband to gain weight. Among other things, your wife is eating more, so it's harder to judge portions correctly.
You also aren't getting as good of sleep probably (if your wife is rolling about a lot, you probably are waking up a bit more), and that lowers your metabolism
 
is there a book or something I can read? Seems weirdly interesting.
 
@Undo nice. I've been thinking of using the API to spam-flag these with one click, but that might be hard
 
@DoorknobofSnow Not really. I can give you the sekrits to the shiny write API if you'd like.
 
(With OAuth)
 
6:59 PM
"husband gain weight pregnancy"
 
@Undo cool so when the bot will be active?
 
@DoorknobofSnow Oooh... OAuth... Pretty easy, but you have to have all your users OAuth with you. Then you have their tokens.
 
Joe
I'm sure there are a lot of books :)
 

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