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12:00 AM
@Pekka you here?
(rather, @Pëkka)
 
Wow. Google already crawled the questions: google.com/search?q=pjh49947
 
What have you guys been doing?
 
@UndotheSnowman read the transcript
 
Uh oh. Shog's irritated. leaves
 
Note to self: don't go in the library unless I know where all the candle sticks are.
 
12:04 AM
Ooh, that sounds fun.
 
Came for the abuse of "OCD"
 
Hello, librarian? I need a diagram of where all the candlesticks in your building are.
 
I've got some real examples of OCD, @random, if my earlier attempts were insufficient.
 
Had a year where the skin off the back of the hands were always falling off because of all the routine handwashing
 
sigh random's here.
 
12:06 AM
Time to lock it up
Actually, time to close everything as duplicate
 
@random Going to be tough to pull that off without triggering the duplicate-circle-preventer.
 
Ok, you win. I won't bore with my inferior manifestations.
 
With OCD you're always losing
 
@random With your edits, are you coming up with the summaries on the fly or do you have a random phrase-maker gizmo?
 
(ok, one. I think my neighbors are creeped out by my current thing, hanging out on the street making sure my garage door is closed. When I can see it. For a long time)
 
12:09 AM
Even better would be if you got out of your car and tapped on it a few times.
 
Neighbours are always creeped out. If they weren't they're the ones you should be watching out for.
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No, that'd make it worse. I could be triggering it to open again!
 
@MichaelPetrotta If your garage door opens when you tap on it, that's a problem.
 
@UndotheSnowman Why do you think it's either one?
 
@random Uhmm...
rofl
 
12:11 AM
sigh It won't open. It's not a problem with the garage door, it's a problem with my brain.
 
Anyway, I got to go now. Bye folks.
 
OCD can be liveable
 
Dammit, I want my gold badge, so I get get my gold badge hat. Run, badge script, run!
I know it can, @random.
 
@UndotheSnowman am now!
Ahh but you are gone
 
user234239
12:32 AM
hi
 
user234239
hey @Pekka, i was accused of being a bully for the first time!
 
@Scrooge that's unfortunate!
In what context?
 
user234239
he referred to another member who was helping him as being a possible troll...
 
user234239
12:42 AM
I called him out on that, saying that behaviour is disgusting
 
user234239
and then, that is when the fight started
 
user234239
lol
 
@Scrooge Just shrug it off, I have been called a troll tons of times on stackexchange.
 
user234239
nah, he went on to call me all sorts of things, and then call me a bully
 
How rude
 
user234239
12:53 AM
yup, he said I wasthis and that and many other things
 
user234239
lol
 
user234239
meh
 
@Scrooge so are you a bully? ;)
 
user234239
not on this day of the week!
 
By the way where did it happen? Comments on a post or some chat room?
(comments can be just easily flagged)
 
user234239
12:55 AM
I may be recalcitrant, I may call people out for stupidity
 
@Scrooge Oh boy, you're going to hate me then
 
user234239
cmments, chat... all good now, the user deleted himself
 
user234239
@ElfSlice lol, no
 
deleted himself.... wow
poor soul! :D
 
Did I post music yet today?
 
user234239
12:56 AM
LOL
 
You posted that trailer, it does have music, @ElfSlice
 
user234239
@ShadowWizard tats one of the reasons I love coming in here
 
@Scrooge why, to hear music? ;)
 
Ah, there we go
That one probably isn't for everyone.
 
user234239
@ShadowWizard lol, that and the fact you guys cheer me up
 
12:58 AM
I cheer everyone up
 
@Scrooge I'm new (in chat) but yeah, doing my best :D
 
It can be hard to find a good pilsner, but this one ain't bad
 
user234239
@9Shogsa-Shogging... what pray tell is 'shogging', or don't I want to know?
 
@Scrooge look it up - it's welsh, IIRC
 
Dec 21 at 2:30, by ElfSlice
'Shogging' sounds dirty.
♪ 8 gnomes a-bein' suspended ♪
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user234239
1:02 AM
lol
 
@shog getting ready for area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/48905/beer to become part of the network? ;)g
 
@Shadow @shot?
 
3 AM if I can't spell this it means I must sleep!
 
Are you saying that Shog just got shot?
 
@hichris123 yeah, @9Shogsa-Shogging is just too... too long!
 
1:03 AM
@ShadowWizard I've been preparing for years
 
How about Arduino?
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Arduino

Proposed Q&A site for developers of open-source hardware and software that is compatible with Arduino

Currently in commitment.

 
@hichris123 Gesundheit
 
It is late here... enjoy the beer @9Shogsa-Shogging!
 
@ElfSlice What?
 
@hichris123 You sneezed
:P
 
1:06 AM
@hichris123 when did that get to 52%?! It's a dup of Electrical Engineering
 
Looks like its second crack at the whip
 
@random It is.
 
pretty sure I wrote one of those, @hichris123
 
The first one apparently failed in beta.
 
1:08 AM
I know y'all want to make another go of it, and... best of luck to ya... but I'm still struggling to understand where this is coming from.
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging What do you mean?
 
I mean, it's not like arduino is a small, under-served topic on EE
It's more like the C# of EE
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging But does that mean it should have its own site? (not sure about the whole history, just curious)
 
Is Arduino something like Raspberry Pi?
 
@hichris123 it should have its own site if there's... some broad dimension to it that's just not being covered elsewhere. Like, some nuance to working with it that simply doesn't click for most of the folks on EE.
Or on SO, for that matter, where it's also doing quite well.
 
1:10 AM
@3ventic Kind of, but not really a computer. It's basically a chip that you can use to build stuff and code.
 
So it has a bigger focus on being a platform
 
Umm...
All the non-mSO sites are giving me an Aww, snap in Chrome.
 
just you
time to reboot chrome
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging My question is: SO = programming, EE = electrical engineering. Shouldn't EE questions not contain code, and SO questions not contain hardware issues?
 
1:12 AM
@hichris123 eh; it's fuzzy at times
 
Unfortunantly, we can't make hard rules
I wish we could. I'm a programmer.
 
Life != code
 
Ughh I hate when someone buys you a case of pop even though you hate drinking pop, and then you have that awkward decision of being rude and just throwing it away or being respectful and drinking it because they bought it for you.
 
user234239
@animuson use them for cleaning
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging Yup, you were right. Re-chrome-booting worked.
 
1:15 AM
@animuson next time, ask for Big Red
 
@animuson Send it to me.
@animuson Looks like you can always just sell it:
 
@animuson tell them you only drink Mexican Coke
 
@UndotheSnowman $25 + $15 shipping for 32 cans? Sheesh.
 
Can you sell Coke on eBay?
 
there's always Silk Road
 
1:18 AM
@animuson You could sell it for 40$ on Amazon. If you autograph each one someone would buy it.
 
"Certified autographed by real Stack Overflow moderators cans of Coca-Cola"
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@animuson I bet those are worth a fortune.
 
"The collectors item Coke, with an autograph from Animuson. Rarest item in the world, only one known in existance."
 
Then you could spam it on mSO.
 
@animuson Unopened, or partially consumed?
 
1:19 AM
Get the knock-off ones, @Undo.
 
I'll pitch the idea to pekka.
 
@animuson "Certified autographed by real Stack Overflow moderators cans of Coca-Cola" So you're saying there's fake SO mods?
 
@hichris123 The 10kers.
 
Imposterators!
 
@Undo But... they're not fakes!
 
1:22 AM
@hichris123 Well, they say they are but they don't even have a diamond.
Big difference.
@animuson But how would you get them certified? Would you have to send it to Shog and have him certify it?
 
Does that mean @animuson is a fake, since he's not a CM or a dev, therefore, he's not a real mod?
 
@hichris123 Mod === diamond
 
Pekka would handle the authentic certification process.
 
Ah, perfect.
 
But does mod == diamond, or does mod == origional diamond, or does mod == dev, or does mod == CM, or does mod == 10ker, or does mod == pro-term mod, or does mod == Animuson's coke?
 
1:24 AM
mod != animuson's coke.
coke is bad at flag handling.
mod === anyone with diamond.
(except the marketing guys)
 
I can imagine that conversation @jadarnel27 would have with his wife: "Look hun, I'm drinking a moderator!"
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How do you know his coke is bad at flag-handeling?
 
@hichris123 Well, let's test it. @animuson, open the flag queue and pour your coke on the keyboard, let's see if it marks my comment flags valid.
 
mod = !rocker
 
1:56 AM
@jadarnel27's wife is probably actually an SE mod.
 
2:09 AM
Are you calling his wife a can of coke?
 
Dec 22 at 3:59, by Undo the Snowman
Is your dad a tablet?
 
I just love how we come up with little mini-memes that last for a day or two.
 
2:48 AM
@jadarnel27's wife is offended by the implication that she's a canned soft drink of any kind, apparently.
 
No kidding!
 
Who knew that chick was so sensitive =)
 
Great for low-bandwidth places.
 
3:15 AM
Doesn't really help if you don't have context.
Work*
 
@jadarnel27 Oh, right, you did just get married.
You sure she's offended?
 
She's offended just by being with him
 
3:31 AM
6
Q: Is it possible to include C++ libraries in C programs?

Maxime AubaretI'm working with a contractor who develops a library for us in C++. I would like to know if it is possible to use that library in a C program. I am using Gcc as my compiler.

Who was it was saying that a straightforward "how do I?" question would invariably get closed today?
(FWIW: that question was used several times as a review audit... To date: 3 failures, 2 passes)
 
3:45 AM
@hichris123 I was just kidding (in case that wasn't clear) =)
 
@hichris123 @hichris123 It's like the 4th or 5th time that proposal is up. Last time it was closed while in private beta. The folks want the site because EE.SE doesn't treat Arduino questions that well, many users (well, one major user and a couple of others) find the questions noobish and are grumpy in the comments
 
She read the transcript with me and laughed. Turns out she was laughing at me, for being involved with all this, and not so much at the jokes.
 
It's never clear - brown is far from clear.
 
@hichris123 Overlap is OK, subset is not so OK. Astronomy is a subset of Physics though, scope wise, but it seems to be doing fine. Arduino.SE might have been able to survive as a subset, but it didn't have enough activity.
 
@jadarnel27 That's hilarious.
Hi jadarnel's wife!
 
3:48 AM
@jadarnel27 You should have asked her.
 
Oh @jadarnel27 that reminds me - I was going to Sam & Louie's last week and there's a pub right next to it called Tavern on the Q. I was like "gahhhhh soooo close!"
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@animuson Three letters away.
 
@animuson Take a brown marker and fix it
 
They would probably look out and say, "Ack, another crazy Stack Exchange person."
 
@animuson Haha, that's fantastic =) I still have not made it to The Tavern here in Charlotte.
 
3:49 AM
@Mr.Peanut Do you think it will survive now (I assume you read the transcript).
 
@UndotheSnowman Well she's asleep now =P
 
@hichris123 Arduino.SE? ..... eh, don't know. It seems to be reaching commitment at a steady pace, but the scope seems to be exactly the same as last time.
If they want to succeed they'll have to trudge through the beta carefully
 
@Mr.Peanut Getting an Arduino so very interested in it.
 
@hichris123 great :)
 
3:52 AM
I want an Arduino.
Can it run Apache?
 
I wasn't in the other ones, so I'm not sure about the others.
It's the Yun.
 
@UndotheSnowman a raspberrry pi can
An Arduino.... not really.
 
Oh, wrong little cheap circuit board.
 
There is an Arduino ethernet shield though
 
raspberry pi's run Linux, right?
 
3:53 AM
@UndotheSnowman She works 13 hour shifts that start at 6:30am, so she goes to sleep pretty early on "work nights."
 
I would too :P
 
@Mr.Peanut The Yun has WiFi built in and has a Linux side.
 
@UndotheSnowman Yep. Usually Raspbian
 
Google it.
 
@hichris123 nice
 
3:53 AM
Yeah.
 
@Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish Could I put Ubuntu Server on it?
 
You have an Arduino, @Mr.Peanut (since you've commited?)
 
@UndotheSnowman Um... you would need the OS to be ported to Pi hardware. Not sure if that's been done yet
 
@hichris123 Currently? No. I have had many arduinos in the past and can easily get one.
I've used arduino a lot. Don't really own one because usually I work in groups for robotics.
 
3:54 AM
26
Q: Can a Raspberry Pi run Ubuntu?

JordanI was thinking about buying a Raspberry Pi, and running Ubuntu on it. I have looked around the web, and a lot of stuff says that it's difficult for it to work on ARM processors. Has anyone figured out how to get a Raspberry pi to run Ubuntu?

^ Aha!
 
@hichris123 fwiw I was the highest rep on Arduino.SE last iteration. Almost all my EE rep comes from the site.
 
How long did Arduino last last time?
 
@Mr.Peanut Ah.
@Undo Last time? Idk.
 
@UndotheSnowman A week before the "this beta will close unless there's a miracle" announcement. After the announcement it was ghost-towning for another week
 
@Mr.Peanut Did the rep get transfered to EE?
 
4:00 AM
@hichris123 almost all of it, yes. Most of the posts got migrated
@hichris123 The simplest argument for Arcuino being separate from EE is that EE is more professional, Arduino is usually used by newbies.
Or by people like me who just want to tinker and not make anything permanent just yet
 
Does either Arduino or RPi have wifi?
 
@UndotheSnowman Both have shields for it iirc
RPi has in built ethernet and hdmi though
Arduino has in built usb only
and that is limited
 
Ah.
Then I would want an RPi
My poor grandmothers are going to be so confused when I ask for a bare circuit board.
I'll put it in a cardboard box and put Apache on it and do things with it.
 
The Arduino can only act as a USB slave iirc. To make it a master you have to either flash a new USB controller to the second chip or do some other crazy magic or get a shield
Heh, I googled to verify the above and found my own answer
Not at the top, but many a times I scroll down to look for results from SE
 
4:16 AM
Hi grandma! ... Next Christmas I want a bare circuit board that can run Apache and SQL... Huh? Apache is a web server.... no, I'm not running a site out of my house, I have a VPS for that... A VPS? Oh nevermind. I'll email you the Amazon link.
 
@UndotheSnowman You may have a hard time getting a Pi though. Last I checked they were in a state of perpetual out-of-stock
 
@Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish What, did they stop making 'em?
 
Also, be aware of the Pi's RAM limits.
 
@Undo The Arduino Yun has WiFi built in.
 
@UndotheSnowman Nah, just not fast enough
There are companies like element14 that have them in stock, but at high prices
 
4:17 AM
Oh
"only 15 left in stock"
 
@Undo Give me the massive Amazon onebox feature request to make it smaller
 
In a couple of weeks I'm going to have my hands on an armada of Pis
 
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Q: The Amazon is huge, but that doesn't mean the oneboxes need to be

Undo the SnowmanRecently, animuson was dissatisfied with his clock. Therefore, one of our illustrious members sought out an Amazon link to a clock that would solve all of animuson's needs. And this happened: It's huge. Like, screen-shatteringly huge. It even prompted this message: Why are Amazon one-boxes...

That one?
 
Yep.
Upvote plz people.
 
Oooh meta repz!
 
4:19 AM
@UndotheSnowman Good suggestion, in my opinion.
 
Unicorn dollars!
 
I'm working on electronicifying the noticeboards in the institute. So we're getting tons of Pis and screens. Most of the code is already written. (It works currently, I just need to add some more features)
 
@Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish Oh that would be fun!
 
Also, an option to automatically hide all oneboxes entirely by showing plaintext or something would be a nice feature.
 
@ElfSlice I once wrote a script for the Bridge that minified all Lazers posts. That could be extended
 
4:20 AM
@Mr.Peanut Lazers?
 
It's the Bridge bot
 
@hichris123 chat bot in the gaming chatroom

 The Bridge

General Arqade Chat. We tried to leave once, but the door lock...
 
@ElfSlice It looks like it posts questions?
 
2
Q: Can I choose which ads will be displayed to me on Stack Overflow?

rob.alarconThe reason why is that I found SO Careers ads very distracting. Right now I'm not really looking for a job, but it's very difficult to ignore the good offers. I would like to see other kind of ads.

Sounds like the ads are working — Undo the Snowman 15 secs ago
 
@hichris123 Yeah, it posts new questions periodically.
Lazers is a stupid name.
Servbot was better.
 
4:22 AM
Someone sure went on a random flagging spree. I'm mostly voting for invalid flags from 4 hours ago right now
 
2
A: Add smaller, collapsible question feed option for chat

Mr. Peanut Monopoly McManishHere's a bookmarklet that collapses(and continues to collapse) all the post-oneboxes posted by users withe a negative userid: javascript:(function(){window.hidePosts=function(){$("div.user-container.monologue").filter(function(){return!!this.className.match(/user--/ig)}).not(':has(div[class="ann...

Take that JS and modify
 
@Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish Cool. I don't actually want it, but there have been users who have complained about oneboxed content before.
Usually when I'm around. Can't imagine why.
 
Nope. No reason in the world why they would complain.
 
@ElfSlice is this about that thing that caused that other thing to happen to you multiple times?
 
@Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish What?
Oh, probably.
 
4:24 AM
Because then the reason isn't that the oneboxes are large, it's about what's in the boxes :P
 
That thing.
 
@Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish shush you!
 
@hichris123 Yep. That thing.
 
3 hours ago, by ElfSlice
♪ 8 gnomes a-bein' suspended ♪
 
@hichris123 That thing
I usually get suspended for cursing at people, not for oneboxed content.
Although it has happened.
 
4:29 AM
Thingy.
Why would you be cursing at people?
 
When I get frustrated with someone I tend to start saying things I shouldn't.
If somebody insults me or otherwise says something rude to me, I'm not smart enough to respond in kind without resorting to phrases like 'fuck off'.
Which is bannable.
I don't really want to talk about it.
 
Am I going crazy, or should I have accepted this? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3670272
3 people approved.. no idea why.
 
@JoshC We should have a look at their review history
Is @minitech around? He likes chasing after robos
 
Maybe he has two accounts? It's curious though, why would you do that if you still ask questions on both accounts..
 
To me, it seems like the guy who suggested it might have actually been the OP.
Oh wow, said that at the same time.
Seems like a sock puppet
 
4:38 AM
Yeah, but as far as I know people do it to prevent having questions on their "main" account. While the highest rep one has 20-19 Q-A
 
@Jeroen Sounds probable. However, I have 500+ answers and 1 question.. I just don't have any questions on SO. Most have already been asked.
 
Guess we'll have to do some digging into you
Someone get the gloves
 
@Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish Yep. Look at the revisions. stackoverflow.com/posts/20794553/revisions
wow -
 
edit made with wrong account
 
4:49 AM
@hichris123 Did you see the suggested edit? xD 3 people approved..
 
@JoshC Yeah, clarification? That probably is a sock, unless it's a friend.
But most likely sock.
Hey, can you see revision history in the Android app?
 
I wouldn't know. I don't have an android.
Probably though.
 
Gah. I'm in the middle of improving (and rejecting) another useless suggested edit and before I can finish it it's already approved
so annoying
 
@JeroenVannevel I just saw stackoverflow.com/questions/20794925/…
 
Yep, that's the one.
 
4:58 AM
@Jeroen OP approved that one.
 
Ah, that explains why it only required two votes. Still an inadequate edit though, those tags aren't relevant
 
I was in the middle of removing them when you edited.
I don't know how to close that question though
it's not opinion based..
but it's seemingly off-topic.
 
It's not? I would say it is: you can't answer it because it depends on how you interpret the three concepts
 
Yea, that's right. The title is different from the body. The body is opinion based, while the title isn't. Just voted to close as opinion based.
oh, and the OP voted to close his own question as that too.
 
Heh, the OP voted to close?
 
Why do we get the option to close our own questions?
 
Ask meta ;)
 
That's for tomorrow.
 
21
Q: Allow question askers to close their own questions unilaterally

Nathan FellmanI have found a number of reasons to close a question of my own: I've found out it's a dupe it belongs on an SE site that didn't exist when the question was asked it is wrong; that is, based on incorrect assumptions, or so bad that I don't even want it answered I think that the original poster...

Marked with
 
Yeah.
But that was for a binding vote.
 
5:10 AM
-7
A: What exactly is Spring for?

the.jxcWell, this one is a bit technical... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Framework But this one is a bit more friendly... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Framework

lol
I'm glad we get multiple options
 
VLQ also
 
@hichris123 One reason: if you post a question, and someone points out it's a duplicate (or you discover it on your own beforehand).
I imagine there are other reasons as well.
But that's how I see it used most.
 
@jadarnel27 Ah, wouldn't think of someone closing their own off-topic post.
Night all.
 
Instead of handling flags I'm participating on another site. :o
 
111
Q: Handling Calls to Remove a Moderator

Robert CartainoStack Exchange has some of the best Moderators around — seriously — and that is due in no small part to the communities who scrutinize and vote in our Moderator elections. We have a rather formal process for electing moderators, but up until now the process for removing a moderator has been quit...

Er, I mean...cool! Which site, @animuson?
 
5:17 AM
0
Q: Can I configure my device or computer to stop trying to install software when I connect them?

animusonWhen I plug my HTC ONE into my computer via a USB cable, it always wants to try and install a bunch of random things on my computer that I really don't want nor need. Just plugging it in with the current drivers installed, it shows up fine in my Portable Devices list on Windows 7, as seen here: ...

 
I've got 35 flags waiting. I've noticed.
All these edits got approved.
I checked a bunch randomly, each of them had at least 1, usually 3 follow up edits
Why do these get marked as helpful..
oh, and serial upvoting 2 days ago as well
 
Flag it for moderator attention ;)
Give @animuson something extra to do
 
ah, good idea
 
It doesn't look like the script caught the serial voting.. strange
It was all within ~1 minute
 
yeah, 8 different questions getting 1 upvote in 1 minute
You'd think that's textbook
 
5:59 AM
@qwertynl what's up?
 
 
1 hour later…
7:10 AM
hi, there was no vote recount at 3 am? Apparently, the counted votes did not take effect for a tag as usual.
 
On Stack Overflow? Because I received a tag badge at 03:00 on Meta so it obviously ran there.
 
yes, sorry, SO. Cannot say it for all the tags obviously, but at least for the "qt" tag, nothing changed.
should I bring it to MO?
 
7:49 AM
or is it usual that 1-2 days are left out occasionally?
 
 
5 hours later…
1:18 PM
Finally lost the will in suggested edits queue
 
@OGHaza Yes, people should learn to reject too minor edits.
 
1:49 PM
@TinyTim Any idea when I would get an email abt my new Stack Swag? :-)
 
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