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9:00 PM
@MichaelMrozek the frowny is because I don't know davmail, but looking at some articles it looks like it might be just the thing ... have you tried it yet?
 
@drachenstern No; I installed it but it apparently uses a GUI for configuration (which seems pretty weird for an app of this sort), so I'm waiting till I get home to mess with it. It does sound exactly right though
 
Heh, you didn't need to. Eh. I don't think that question has an answer.
 
@MichaelMrozek perhaps ...
@TheOutOfStarsException I have seen something like that but damn that was a long time ago and I don't recall now what the issue was, but it was a issue that only manifested across the network, as I recall ... hmm :\
 
There is no SE site to ask US immigration related questions on, is there? Except for onStartups, but that is totally focused on entrepreneurs' immigration issues
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount None that I know of, but there should be one!
@drachenstern this is across a VMware private network...
 
9:03 PM
@The yeah. There's a lawyer on onStartups who seems to know his stuff, but my questions would not be startup related at all
Anyway, if I manage to finish everything, I'll come for a 3-month stint on a tourist visa to test the waters first.
Have a bit of a well-deserved holiday, maybe visit some interesting employers
That's going to be nice.
 
What's a nice round maximum font size in the 30s?
 
Yeah, same here! :) It's going to be a budget trip, but it's going to be fun. I might see a bit of the country by riding the bus and hiking.
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@Pekkastrollingaccount - I've been slacking on my German a bit. Surprised? Mostly because I'm busy developing.
 
definitely 32
 
9:05 PM
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Q: Tim Post keeps locking my question for no reason!

JustinI asked Mouse Down events in Objective-C, and I was told that I didn't have enough information (then Tim Post locked it). Then, when I put the information in, I had multiple very helpful answers. About ten minutes ago, Tim Post locked my question for a second time (I don't even know why). He keep...

 
@Pekkastrollingaccount - Thanks.
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount where will you go, California only?
 
@Moshe that's understandable!
@TheOutOfStarsException I might start somewhere else and then drift towards California! I haven't made up my mind much yet. A cross-country trip would be great
 
is an interesting employer
 
@Moshe you should learn some basic restraint young grasshopper. Pick only two activities and pour your heart into them. You have too many irons in the fire. I suggest you take up cooking, and learn how to cook professionally.
@TimStone go on, I'm listening :p :p :p :p
 
9:07 PM
@TimStone HIRE PEKKA! NOW! DOOO IT!
 
@TimStone you are? We're listening! :)
 
@TheOutOfStarsException I'd imagine he'd only be interested in PHP positions, if he were to go down that route, though :P
 
@drachenstern Oh, I know. Hehe, I have some background in cooking.
is looking for a summer internship
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount what's wrong with the Rodenkirchen bridge? And you do realise the golden gate isn't actually... golden?! I was most disappointed as a 5 year old to discover this.
 
:-)
 
9:09 PM
@Moshe then you need to expand that background ... a LOT. I think you need a real lesson in what it means to have 8 pots on the stove at one time, with meat on a grill.
 
@TimStone yeah! My ideal idea of work would be a mixture of graphic design, community development and web development. I'm working on a CV right now, I'll link that in my profile once I'm done.
 
@drachenstern Whoa! Ok, 8 pots is a lot. I've done two or three, but yea.
 
@Moshe well that's how you sound about your programming
 
@drachenstern Heh?
How so?
 
@Ninefingers heh, the bridge is nice! :) I'll be shedding a tear when I leave here, that's for sure. But America will be a great adventure and something new, I need some of that.
 
9:11 PM
> Can I create the [tim-post] tag? Can I? Please? – mmyers♦ 20 secs ago
@Moshe how many apps are you working on right now?
 
@drachenstern Now, at the moment? Or on my immediate to do list?
 
Nippon 1, Nippon 2, something with wheat in it, a prayer board app, a time thingy, and who knows what else
@Moshe at the moment
And what else do you do during the day besides write software?
 
Nippon 1 is finished for now.
Nippon 2 is a pipe dream now, not on my list.
Nippon 3... (just kidding)
 
@Moshe We've found that interns are typically a lot of trouble ;)
 
The "Wheat app" is practically done, and parts of it are going into the prayer board.
A lot of my recent code is reusable.
"time thingy" stuff was for the "wheat app" and prayer board.
@TimStone - How so?
 
9:13 PM
@Pekkastrollingaccount Ah, nice! :) We actually do Java development, though our web framework of choice is more kind of PHP-ish architecturally than it would be traditional Java, so.
 
@Moshe because they aren't big enough to warrant interns. Interns need a lot of hand holding at first.
 
Right, and I'm terribly impatient when it comes to being interrupted.
 
@drachenstern - So now, finishing the wheat app, client for a web service, minor updates a client's app in exchange for advertising.
@drachenstern Fair enough.
 
These younguns just don't understand how much extra work they are :-)
 
9:15 PM
@Moshe and what is it you do during the day?
@TheOutOfStarsException and they spend so much time on the lawn!
 
@drachenstern Mostly program, but I study too.
@drachenstern : -)
 
@drachenstern LOL
 
@Moshe study what? I thought you weren't in Uni yet
 
@drachenstern Talmud.
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount I'm kidding, I understand entirely. I'm UK based and would love to move abroad...!
 
9:16 PM
@Moshe how much time do you spend at that?
 
We just got a sales inquiry...
> WONDERING WHAT DO YOUR LESS THAN PREMIUM TEMPLATES LOOK LIKE?? THUS FAR YOUR SITE LOOKS DOABLE, BUT I AM TOTALLY WEBSITE IGNORANT, AND WANT A NICE LOOKING SITE, BUT DONT WANT TO DROP A HUGE AMOUNT OF $ ON AN UNKNOWN..ALSO DO YOUR SITES ATTRACT GOOGLE BOTS?? SO THAT THEY CAN RANK WELL ON GOOGLE?? THANKS
 
@drachenstern Not so much these days. Programming takes most of my time.
 
@Ninefingers yeah! The US is a challenge, of course, because they are so picky about who they let in. Compared to that, the EU is such a nice place to move around in :) But we shall see.
 
@TheOutOfStarsException YOU MIGHT NEED TO ASK THEM TO SPEAK UP, I CAN BARELY HEAR THEM.
 
@Moshe who's coattails do you ride on? Do your parents finance all this?
 
9:17 PM
hahahaha
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Thank you for your inquiry. Our sites are marinated in a new special kind of pheromone that attracts Google bots by the dozen.
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@drachenstern Yes.
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount LOL, I know, that part made me laugh
 
OUR SITES DO WELL WITH SEO IF YOU DO WELL WITH SEO BUT YOU NEED TO TALK TO GOOGLE ABOUT THAT!!
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount I'm currently set on the Alps, but I can't find many people recruiting for junior dev positions in France or western switzerland. I'd go to Canada or the US too if the chance came up, but like you say, much harder to get in.
 
9:20 PM
@Ninefingers mmm, Switzerland is nice and France too, I'm sure. Do you speak French?
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount yep, not so well now as I did a year or two ago but I'd soon pick it up again.
 
Somebody go vote Josh up on that last question I linked
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Q: Tim Post keeps locking my question for no reason!

JustinI asked Mouse Down events in Objective-C, and I was told that I didn't have enough information (then Tim Post locked it). Then, when I put the information in, I had multiple very helpful answers. About ten minutes ago, Tim Post locked my question for a second time (I don't even know why). He ke...

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Done
 
@Ninefingers nice. I'm sure it can work out, there's work everywhere, especially in Switzerland... And the wages, oh the wages!
@drachenstern that dude is hilarious
 
Apparently I have some sort of recruiter trying to call me. Interesting.
 
9:22 PM
> Because they closed my question before I could even post my comment. I hoped that the strong statement (which did include an insult) would get them to understand that it was a question that I needed answered
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@Pekkastrollingaccount yep, I was just glad to see a newbie getting a +10 answer on MSO ;)
 
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Q: How do I report an advertisement seen on a StackExchange site as offensive?

tokesI was browsing stackoverflow.com and one the advertisements displayed on the right hand side I found to be particularly offensive. I've already written a complaint to the company who the advertisement was for, but I was wondering if there was a way I could report it to the maintainers of stackov...

 
@mootinator that's positive.
 
Now I'm curious.
 
@TimStone me three.
 
9:24 PM
hehe
 
Was it the erotic ad again?
 
@TimStone yeah what the..?
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount the what?
 
@drachenstern just joking, there was a complaint once about a "pornographic" ad where you saw a woman's legs or somehting
 
Ha.
 
9:26 PM
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Q: Ads that contains erotic images

KronassHi, recently when I use stack overflow I started to see the "Show us yours" ad, a women with very short skirt siting with a laptop in a sexy way. What a distraction, when I try to answer or read a question this ad takes attention in a way (negatively) that affects my answer or understanding the...

 
@drachenstern exactly, that one was it.
 
@Moshe were you formally known as kronass?
> recently when I use stack overflow I started to see the "Show us yours" ad, a women with very short skirt siting with a laptop in a sexy way. What a distraction, when I try to answer or read a question this ad takes attention in a way (negatively) that affects my answer or understanding the question.
 
@drachenstern No.
Not at all me.
 
@Moshe it was a joke. Smile.
 
I've always been Moshe on SE network.
@drachenstern :-)
 
9:28 PM
@Moshe yes, I know.
 
is too tense because of a deadline
 
@Moshe hence me making jokes. I was actually highlighting that you are not alone in your quest for decency as you spend time on SO.
 
@drachenstern Well, thank you.
stands up for a moment.
Ok
I think I'm done here with this app.
Time to generate screenshots for the App Store.
 
@drachenstern Actually it almost made me crap my pants. Someone calling my work and being vague about the reason why they want to talk to me from a city my wife had to switch planes in today (and I left my cellular at home) made me a little nervous.
 
@mootinator oh shit ... yeah, I woulda been crapping my pants too
 
9:32 PM
that's a very unfortunate coincidence indeed.
 
@TheOutOfStarsException If it's this ad, I'll laugh. I'm tired of pressing F5 though to try and find something else to blame. :P
 
@TimStone Tim heh! I can't think of any, either. Except maybe for the Ladybug as @status-declined points out. Is that one still around?
 
Poor ladybug :(
I haven't seen it recently, but it could be.
 
9:38 PM
That must be it Tim
> I closed the tab the page was on, but luckily I refreshed a few times and the same ad re-appeared ;) –
 
Why is every server blacklisting email from my new IPs? It's getting to be a real pain in the ass...
 
@TheOutOfStarsException oh dear.
 
That's very unpleasant.
Any chance of getting new ones?
(IPs I mean, of course)
 
heh
maybe, but it's been such a pain to switch ~300 accounts over to these new IPs, I have no desire to repeat that...
 
@TheOutOfStarsException fair point
There's no possibility that one of them is actually spamming?
 
9:42 PM
as soon as we switched servers, we encountered this problem
so I think the new IPs we were given were bad
 
@TheOutOfStarsException shit
 
yeah
I have been contacting companies one by one requesting to be unblocked
but it seems everyone using Exchange is blocking us...
 
@TheOutOfStarsException which indicates a common blacklist
 
does Exchange have a common blacklist?
 
I presume you've tried mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
@TheOutOfStarsException no but the administrators tend to stick to a handful of forums so those tend to make the rounds very quickly
 
9:44 PM
I get 554 transaction Failed Spam Message not queued from a lot of servers
@drachenstern no, I tried DNSStuff's. Let me try this one
 
that was just one of many, I rather meant did you try any
sorry
 
Checking 209.59.186.119 against 103 known blacklists...
Listed 0 times with 3 timeouts.
 
@The there's a quote in this discussion that mentions a specific company
> You're sending to a site that uses SecureComputing's TrustedSource
reputation service (probably an IronMail or Edge appliance). The
combined score of your IP address's and the message's reputation
scores exceed the limit that's acceptable for the site.
 
awesome, thanks!
 
np. Also, while this probably is a blacklist issue, are you sure your outgoing mails are in order?
 
9:46 PM
I will contact McAffe who appears to run SecureComputing's TrustedSource
@Pekkastrollingaccount not 100%, but I believe they are. rDNS is in place etc
 
@TheOutOfStarsException right. Maybe double-check the outgoing headers nevertheless, just in case
But this sounds like a blacklist thing, definitely.
 
waiting for local notification to appear so I can screenshot it
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount yes, thank you!
We're listed as high risk
That's who I need to contact apparently
 
@TheOutOfStarsException definitely looks like it!
The last owner of that IP must have been one nasty spammer
This was all last month, though, according to their fancy stats. Is the IP that new?
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount that may also mean that the mailserver is too new.
 
9:51 PM
@drachenstern too new as in, too new a version? You mean the outgoing server?
 
It's because he's too new now that I see the trend graphs
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount it's new to me
 
the IP has only been in use as an outbound mail server for a few days
 
I have no idea if anyone else had it before I did
@drachenstern I'd imagine that 300 domains suddenly appearing under one Ip caused suspiscions
 
the mcafee system is gauging current usage based on prior usage. So for an address that has NEVER sent mail to START sending lots of mail ...
 
9:52 PM
@drachenstern You mean that is automatically classified as a risk? Makes sense.
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount yeah, exactly that
 
I hope they'll be understanding that it was a migration...
 
They should be.
 
@RebeccaChernoff yey!
@RebeccaChernoff Sadly there's no other SOers in the Asheville area :-(
 
9:54 PM
@RebeccaChernoff hahaha. Is that the IT equivalent of John Lennon's "we are bigger than Jesus"?
 
@RebeccaChernoff just got a message from you (uruguay)
 
Meetup-related kudos to Estonia by the way. The Tartu meetup has 69 people registered
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount what? Wow!
 
The 3rd larget after NY and London
 
Also, why do I always see Elbonia in re: that country name? :p
 
9:55 PM
@Pekkastrollingaccount hmmm
 
Shame we start vacation the day after the meetups, looks like I'm in school until the 7th.
 
what school?
I'm so confused by your day to day
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Is this close?
@Pekkastrollingaccount lol
 
wait, Angry Birds and FarmVille both have meetups? WFT?
 
@Trufa huh?
 
9:57 PM
@drachenstern LOL
I'd like to see the Angry Birds meetup
 
@drachenstern I am in a Jewish School in NY. I should be up in the morning for prayers and then study. I have been getting up late. Then I work from the office in the afternoon and go back and study in the evening. Rinse repeat.
Passover vacation starts on the 7th.
Hence my comment.
 
Loads of Angry people demolishing the furniture in whichever location they choose for their gathering, with the poor landlord standing by helplessly watching.
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount I might too ... I beat all the levels and need to get a bit more work on the scores on Rio ... all the stars and all the bananas/pineapples .... too much free time
 
@Moshe I love passover, it's one of my favorite holidays
 
9:58 PM
@RebeccaChernoff you sent (a generic?) message today in the meetup group
> Who wants to jump in and pick a location? Don't let this fall apart! (:
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Indeed, me too. Except all of the matzah can stay in one's system for a while. And, passover diet isn't friendly to dieting.
 
@TheOutOfStarsException hint, I had already done that too se if anything was close. q:
If you're eating mostly matzah for Passover, honestly, you're doing it wrong.
There's so much food to make!
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yea, true. But we don't do matzah meal. Most of our food is potato (starch) based.
\O/ Submitted Omer 2 to the app store. (The "wheat app".)
 
@RebeccaChernoff LOL. Well if I were all unpacked and everything I'd love to make that trip. But as in I have SO much to do. my new garage is stuffed to the brim with yet-to-be-unpacked boxes :-/
 
But Matzah and cream cheese is takes the cake.
@TheOutOfStarsException That's what garages are for. :-)
 
10:02 PM
LOL, but I can't life weights because my workout set is covered in boxes!
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Yoga!
 
LOL
OK, time to try and convert the phone jacks in my new place to working ethernet jacks...
anyone have any tips for me? :-)
 
Use wireless?
 
@TheOutOfStarsException ...I'm going to hope it's already wired with CAT-5?
 
@TimStone it is, in a ring
@MichaelMrozek Netflix streaming HD doesn't like wireless
 
10:09 PM
Oh, in that case it's relatively trivial.
 
@TimStone what I need to do is determine which rooms are connected to which other rooms...
I think
 
Or at least, I didn't run into too much trouble when I swapped the line that came from my FiOS box.
 
the existing phone jacks only use blue and blue-white, so all the other pairs must be connected to complete the circuit... I want to connect my upstairs office with my downstairs living room so I can plug my TiVo and Blu Ray into the ethernet downstairs and they'll get online
just putting two Cat5 jacks on and connecting all the other pairs outside didn't work, so I guess I need to open all the jacks around the house and connect all the twisted pairs... IDK
if I knew how the loop went I could just connect the rooms in the loop...
 
Yeah, I have separate lines that connect to the junction box in the basement, which sounds much simpler to mess around with. :/
 
10:16 PM
@TheOutOfStarsException :(
@TheOutOfStarsException images not found
 
Yatta!
 
So when I remove the POTS jacks I see two cat5 cables behind each one
I guess that one of the two in my office goes downstairs to the kitchen, where one of those goes to the living room
but it'll probably be a lot of trial and error
 
Gotta love seeing a customer site login as @aol.com ...
 
@TheOutOfStarsException JOSH
 
10:26 PM
@TheOutOfStarsException no tone tester?
 
You're ALIVE!
 
@drachenstern are for wimps....
@TheOutOfStarsException AIM Please
 
@Jacob yeah .. uh WRONG
 
@Jacob just for uou Jacob, just for you... :-p
 
10:27 PM
@drachenstern I know.. I have one in my required on site tools bag
 
@drachenstern No tone tester sadly
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Excuse me... but what type of System Admin are you?
 
I'm calling it a day. 'night everyone, see you later!
 
@Jacob the kind who doesn't run cables anymore :-)
@Pekkastrollingaccount later!
 
@TheOutOfStarsException I was about to say exactly that :)
A tone tester is hardly any good on a T3 Line, is it?
 
10:29 PM
@TheOutOfStarsException how many times did it take you to fix that? :P
 
@Jacob I gave up trying to spell :-)
 
@TheOutOfStarsException lol for a moment I thought it was some designery way of assigning functions to each room
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then you could mark the nexus of the star with a red X and mark it "the donkey's center of equilibrium (you are equidistant from everything in the house)"
 
LOL
By the way @badp I did a picnic lunch on the blue ridge parkway yesterday at "Bad Pass Overlook". I considered writing "word" in to the sign to give you your own part of the parkway, but decided against it
 
Probably a good choice.
The Blue Ridge Parkway always reminds me of Test Drive 5. It was by far the hardest track.
It's much nicer in person, of course.
 
10:50 PM
It's awesome
But yes, some of the curves are white knucklers
 
I think I was too young to drive last time I was there.
Just looking at the pictures in Wikipedia...
The Blue Ridge Parkway is a National Parkway and All-American Road in the United States, noted for its scenic beauty. It runs for 469 miles (755 km), mostly along the famous Blue Ridge, a major mountain chain that is part of the Appalachian Mountains. Its southern terminus is on the boundary between Great Smoky Mountains National Park and the Cherokee Indian Reservation in North Carolina, from which it travels north to Shenandoah National Park in Virginia and offers access to the Skyline Drive, the major north/south artery through the Park. The two All-American Byways are separate...
...wow.
 
@mmyers That's what drove me to move here :-D
 
I mean, trees and water and mountains. All in the same place. And the water isn't even brown.
And quaint buildings.
 
it's best in the fall!
 
Do you live in a quaint building?
 
10:56 PM
@mmyers I do not. It's nice, but I wouldn't call it "quaint"
 
Just as well, I suppose.
Time to go home. Take care, and go Butler!
 
\o/ bball!
 
@TheOutOfStarsException OOOOOOOOOO I've Been THERE
 
11:12 PM
@Jacob you have? I LIVE HERE NOW
I love it even though you may think it's, um, what was the word you used?
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Don't screw it up...
 
what's that supposed to mean? :-)
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Clearly you mis interpreted me, I was talking about the action vs the place
 
Oh. I see
No I really don't but let's pretend I do... :-)
 
11:27 PM
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Q: Need to have keyListener listening regardless of what focus is on Java

MarcusIm trying to make a hangman game. Im stuck on trying to listen for the keystroke. I want the user to be able to press a key and it will test to see if it is correct or not. I dont want to have to have it inputted into a text box, regardless of focus I want that key to be tested against the word. ...

See the comment on my answer.
 
I lost about 500 rep-points in Skeptics last day, but the log shows a +10,+5 and a -2. Has there been some recalc? I once earned a +500 bounty,, but this is still attached to the quesition.
 
@mootinator Graph doesn't show anything extraordinary.
 
@userunknown heh, funny thing about that bounty...
...have a look at the user who awarded it
 
> You can only perform 6 searches within a minute, please wait a minute then try again.
Interesting. Anyways, how many es should "Eeeeek" contain, when spelled properly?
MSO is divided between four and five.
 
11:39 PM
@PopularDemand Compromise: 20
5
 
'ello
 
@PopularDemand Eek.
 
Hm. The -500 don't show up in the log, and when I looked at the question, the 500 were still attached.
 
@userunknown The user who awarded the bounty doesn't seem to exist.
 
@userunknown Yeah, but the +500 doesn't show up in the log either.
(am I right?)
So far as I know, when a user is deleted, their votes, bounties, etc. all go with them.
(which makes asking for a deletion after you've gone around handing out bounties a bit of a dick move)
 
11:47 PM
So bounties get deleted, but up- and downvotes not?
 
@userunknown Votes should get erased as well.
Posts do not get erased, they just become ownerless.
 
Just got offerred another internship via my profile
 
INTERNMENT!
 
Err.. let me rephrase that: "Just turned down another internship gotten via my profile"
 
EXTERNMENT!
 
11:55 PM
Thank you, Sklivvz, I see it, but I don't understand it. 2 1759 (10)
-- 2011-04-04 rep +12 = 872
 
@userunknown wrong window?
 
@Shog9: ?
 
@userunknown Was that a copy-paste of your reputation description for the post in question?
 
@userunknown Sklivvz isn't in this room...
 
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