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12:00 AM
> NVIDIA Optimus Display Driver for Windows 7 (64-bit) - ThinkPad T410, T410i, T410s, T410si, T510, T510i
Surely Lenovo's own documentation wouldn't include a model there that isn't Optimus...
I'm so confused, haha.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I'm going to feel really bad if I what I just posted could have helped you last week!
I'm googling some more
 
Right-click the desktop, open the nvidia control panel, click System Information, and look in the components section? :p
 
yeah me too. I've just been assuming...
 
Yeah follow Tim's steps, that will help me understand what I am reading. Otherwise I'll just be spamming you with random links, HAHA
I mean, we all love random links, but if that's what you wanted I might as well send
 
MUFFINCAT!
 
12:04 AM
I see you guys blocked muffincat!
@TimStone missed the fat guy huh?
OH MUFFINCAT WHERE HAVE YOU BEEEEEEN ALL MY LIIIIIIFFFFE?
 
Nah, I just realize I should eat dinner soon.
 
HAHA
Same here
 
 
@badp confirmed. Not flash.
 
I am reminded how much I despise working with hardware. I'd much rather work with software.
4
 
12:10 AM
@RebeccaChernoff So no luck with the other driver I found then huh? :-(
 
It is still downloading. So I'm trying to figure wtf is going on haha.
 
I'm still curious what chipset you have ;)
 
@RebeccaChernoff Hardware told me, it's not so fond of you either. ;)
 
@TimStone Um, how do I figure that out? Hardware noob. ):
 
12 mins ago, by Tim Stone
Right-click the desktop, open the nvidia control panel, click System Information, and look in the components section? :p
 
12:14 AM
@Fosco LOL
 
So my first Android app is feature complete and working on both the emulator and my phone... Taking the next couple days to pretty it up, make an icon, and put it on the Marketplace!
 
@Fosco Then let me be the first to say: \o/
 
yay
 
Lessee here. Driver version of the NVS 3100M is 192.23.
@Fosco oy!
 
Sorry @RebeccaChernoff, got distracted from by google results by that stupid work stuff
 
12:22 AM
Silly work q:
 
@RebeccaChernoff I know. I keep telling my boss he should just let me chat on MSO and answer questions all day long. He keeps reminding me how I don't have your job (-:
 
Haha, that is far from all I do. (:
 
Haha, no I mean, wait let me clarify :-)
 
I know (;
 
ok, there, humor intention restored (-;
 
12:24 AM
Hmm
 
@RebeccaChernoff (and of course I know you do more than chat and answer :-)
> And as before, I want to extend a huge THANK YOU! to Rebecca "Oy!" Chernoff A.K.A rchern for all her hard work in corrdination these town halls, and for generally being a great community leader.
even if I did make up a middle name for you q:
 
The 2nd gaming THC begins in like 30 mins?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Well I had to make sure everyone knew who I was talking about! ;-)
 
or 1hr 30 mins?
 
12:27 AM
@badp 90 mins
(by my calculations)
 
3am is too much for me :)
 
((which have been known to be very wrong))
 
*gives @badp coffee (even though coffee is nasty)
 
@badp give me your OpenID password... I'll answer questions on your behalf... ;-)
 
@TheRenamedException You could just change your nick and avatar on gaming to mine!
Who'd tell the difference?
 
12:29 AM
WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!!
Also, maybe @Zypher can rename my MSO ID The Badp Exception
Bad Pazzword Exception, I like it
 
There should be something I can download that when you run it, it says in big red letters, "Optimus?: <YES/NO>" (:
KISS-style
 
16 mins ago, by Tim Stone
12 mins ago, by Tim Stone
Right-click the desktop, open the nvidia control panel, click System Information, and look in the components section? :p
 
Optimus: PRIME
 
</bad-pun-of-the-day>
 
12:31 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Optimus is kind of irrelevant to your situation here. :P
 
I shouldn't have laughed at that, but, I did
@TimStone yes we know you think she should switch to ATI
 
@TimStone Oo meaning? (:
 
And your system can support multiple displays, it's just unclear how many (nvidia actually uses your laptop in their promotional material for some reason)
@RebeccaChernoff The Optimus technology is just related to it throttling power consumption
 
@TimStone they want lots of people to buy it to keep tech support people employed?
 
@TheRenamedException Totally, but ;)
@RebeccaChernoff Do you have a picture of how everything's hooked together?
 
12:34 AM
with freehand circles
@TimStone she does not want to open the nVidia control panel huh? ;-)
 
this says it depends on the optimus (; And I guess at one point I did say it was acting like the 2nd scenario there because as soon as I enable a 3rd monitor, it turns off one of the 2 I had on and tells me it only supports 2. I just figured it was a driver issue, not a you-don't-have-this-you-dummy
I did look in there, but it's all greek to me except what I listed ^^^
 
@RebeccaChernoff screencap?
 
You really want a picture of dvi, display port, and vga cables plugged in? |:
 
@RebeccaChernoff that would suck if it is just "sorry, your hardware doesn't support this" and you thought it did. I hate that
@RebeccaChernoff he just wants to compare your setup to his, LOL
 
@RebeccaChernoff It's easier than me trying to piece together your explanation of how you have it all hooked up in my head? :P
 
@TheRenamedException I was going to recommend that, but I'm afraid it'll just tell her "Go see IBM" like it does with my HP laptop, heh.
You can browse to the driver directly, but the driver mentions that it doesn't support chipsets installed in machines that have switchable graphics, which hers does.
 
hmmm
yeah you're more familiar with the issue than I am @TimStone
 
Oh, hmm...
 
@RebeccaChernoff AH HA! I see the problem! Those stickers are interfering with the signal. Remove them, place them in an envelope, address it to me, add a stamp and place it in the mail. That should solve everything!
 
12:46 AM
LOLOLOL
 
Hahah
@RebeccaChernoff Did you go through this?
 
@TimStone OH!
That looks promising
 
Sigh. The guide I saw said the Optimus system was the first set of pics there and did not mention the 2nd set. So yeah, I made sure I had switchable on...OY
Switchable != Optimus. Just my luck finding the most inaccurate page first lmao.
 
Because that page definitely said Switchable == Optimus
wheeeeeee
 
12:50 AM
Any screencaps of the nvidia display info for us?
19 mins ago, by The Renamed Exception
16 mins ago, by Tim Stone
12 mins ago, by Tim Stone
Right-click the desktop, open the nvidia control panel, click System Information, and look in the components section? :p
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, no. :P It's possible that it's not an actual issue, just that the Intel graphics are monitor-blocking you. You could see what happens if you go into BIOS and set it to discrete graphics specifically, admittedly I'm just grasping at straws though.
 
next time we send that to her it's your turn @TimStone
You could try using Linux @RebeccaChernoff... ;-)
 
@RebeccaChernoff hmmm
components tab pls?
also, yes, 64 bit :-)
 
So yeah, I don't have the Optimus, and thus can have 2 screens active at once. Which is what has been staring me in the face. (;
 
Nah. I have a 15" monitor collecting dust so I figured why the hell not it says I have it and should support it.
Didn't mean to waste so much time on it q:
 
Oh. I was thinking maybe Jeff mandated all employees use 3 monitor setups like him, LOL
 
Jeff has a three-monitor system too? Hooray :D
starts a club
 
@TimStone maybe I meant Joel? IDK...
no, I didn't
 
Oh, nice. Jeff's work space looks a lot more..ominous than mine, hehe.
Also, it appears we have the same mouse >_>
 
1:01 AM
I'd post a picture of my workspace if I weren't embarrassed about it, LOL
 
Though given the time difference I suspect a slightly different model or something.
 
Plus, it is just a tiny 15", not really worth it hehe
 
Good point
not even big enough for chat windows! :-)
 
I thought it'd be good to put email or twitter on.
 
In other news, I now notice I'm using a monitor that must be 8 years old.
Comparatively, monitors last amazingly long. Comparatively.
 
1:03 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Well, and I'm confused to. Why are you using your laptop as your desktop when you have a desktop? :P
 
@badp I have a G4 file server. It is almost 12 years old. :-)
 
@TheRenamedException This monitor now outlived the computer it came bundled with by 2.5 times ca.
 
haha
OK, time for dinner for me
I will finish up on town hall digests when I get back
I'll email you my mailing address for those stickers @Rebecca (-;
Also, not that good of a song but I though you would all appreciate the name:
in Tunes, 41 secs ago, by The Renamed Exception
 
1:56 AM
Anyone here? Troubleshooting a fake antivirus program.
@The there?
 
I'm here
 
is quite unhappy with the GTHC taking place during the KU/MU game. >_<
 
@drachenstern A friend downloaded "Antivirus.NET".
It's added some interesting registry keys.
Finally got into safe mode. MSSE is doing a decent job.
 
2:13 AM
Have you tried using MalwareBytesAntiMalware to get rid of it?
What is MSSE?
Oh, security essentials
 
Microsoft Security Essentials.
Yep.
It's a fairly new Win7 install. So tempted to tell them to buy a Mac.
Hehe.
 
So ... do you listen to many podcasts?
 
No. What am I missing?
 
I'll recommend you the same advice as Paul Thurrott gave on Windows Weekly: If you tell them to buy a mac you're going to be doing all the tech support. If you tell them to get a Windows PC, then as each successive version of Windows comes out you can say "gee, it's been x years since I used Windows ... I pretty much only have a Mac, I don't know how to fix those problems anymore, things change" ... and then you aren't the one they always turn to.
However, if you like doing free tech support, then you should definitely tell everyone you know to get a Mac and to burninate all windows PCs
BURNINATE!
 
I hear. But A, I'm getting paid. B, it's less tech support time.
Haha. Client keeps calling "malicious software", "mean software".
 
2:28 AM
@Moshe haha, that's kinda funny. Ok, I caught up the transcript. You people have been busy. @RebeccaChernoff sorry to hear that about the Optimus tech but I agree the marketing people are totally trying to screw you with their material
 
Which is the unicode character used for mod diamonds?
 
First app published to Android Marketplace. \o/
 
@drachenstern Yeah, is weird. Really shouldn't have wasted so much time on it. Oops. ):
 
Found it, I think it's decodeunicode.org/de/u+2666
 
That's ok, I killed pretty much all of today cos of my stupid bluescreens :(
@YiJiang any reason &diams; wouldn't work?
 
2:40 AM
@Moshe I am now
@RebeccaChernoff sorry I am late!!!
 
@drachenstern Oh, /facepalm, gosh I forgot about that
 
@YiJiang I think they come out to the same, but one's easier to work with in modern apps :\
 
Has anyone here been following the second gaming THC?
 
Not at all
 
Ok. I epic fail on this one :-(
 
2:52 AM
How's that?
 
I arrive 45 minutes late and fail to follow the conversation, thus failing in my promise to help make sure questions from the first THC are carried over, and also can't follow the transcript so the digest suffers, LOL
I'll compile as best I can and people can ping me later with edits/additions :-)
 
@The pls get on aim.
 
this is a rowdy bunch, too rowdy for my blood!
 
Who would have thought...
 
@Moshe I have a feeling he's too busy, can I help you Moshe?
 
2:55 AM
AHAHAHAHA
in Gaming Town Hall Chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
 
@TheRenamedException the answer is obviously "more wood"
 
in Gaming Town Hall Chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by Josh
@LessPop_MoreFizz a woodchuck would chuck all he could if a woodchuck could chuck wood. The question is: how much ground would a groundhog hog if a groundhog could hog ground!
@YiJiang are you about?
 
@TheRenamedException Yup
 
I have two suggestions, or "requests" if you will, for this wonderful digest reformatting script which I am using now and has changed my life
one minor, one maybe not so minor
 
Sure
 
3:03 AM
Ok. minor one, can you make the window like 40 px less wide?
it covers the stars on my laptop
 
I should make it resizeable or something, but loading in jQ UI would be a bit too much
 
(that was the easy one :-)
just makes it tough to see the starred posts to click them
harder one: can it work in transcripts too?
 
But yeah, I think I can make it hide the schema when needed
 
@drach no I'm good for now. But do you think MSSE can handle removing this on it's own?
 
@TheRenamedException Think so, never tried. Hang on, hmmm...
#chat needs to be replaced with #transcript
 
3:05 AM
@Moshe it should
 
@YiJiang if not, no big deal, I can (clearly) make it work in the room itself
but only if I have the room open beforehand
 
Otherwise I would seriously get MalwareBytesAntiMalware
 
...which is free, and works great when used together with MSSE.
if you don't mind another's opinion.
 
@MichaelPetrotta I don't mind at all.
 
I thought I said earlier that was free :(
Yeah, MBAM is my goto for problems that AV doesn't clear immediately
if MBAM doesn't work, I have other tools, but I really don't need to return to them normally
 
3:11 AM
@drachenstern GOTO IS EVIL, DO NOT USE.
 
@drachenstern: you may have, I just got here.
 
@MichaelPetrotta -1 for doing something besides MSO chat!
 
@MichaelPetrotta I don't think I did tho
 
@The: this week, I'll take that -1.
*grumble* powerpoint *grumble*
 
@TheRenamedException it's GOTO considered evil
 
3:12 AM
@drachenstern AV?
 
@TheRenamedException rchern: 'o:' balpha: goto o;
 
@Moshe antivirus
 
@drach right. Knew that.
goto oy;
wishes he had his MB
 
My good deed for the day:
^--- Found a bug in Chrome.
 
Nice work @GeorgeEdison! Also, hello
 
3:15 AM
Hey.
 
@GeorgeEdison no, You didn't use enough jQuery. :P
2
 
@GeorgeEdison :\ [status-norepro] 9.0.597.84
 
@drachenstern: I know.
I already narrowed it down to Linux.
 
status-declined-needs-moar-jquery
 
@GeorgeEdison ahhhh
 
3:16 AM
@GeorgeEdison works for me on 8.0.552.why.cant/i.copy.from.the.about.box.damn.you.google!
 
status-just-fine-the-way-it-is
 
status-troubleshooting-windows-sans-MacBook-is-maddening
 
status-long-statii-overrun-side-of-mobile-chat
 
[status-I-could-see-how-this-could-get-irritating-after-a-while]
 
3:17 AM
So, it must be created in 9
 
well, that didn't work.
 
status-declined
 
I got one other person to reproduce it in Ubuntu.
 
@GeorgeEd Image not found.
 
@TheRenamedException are you copying at the top or the bottom?
@Moshe you really don't have to do that
@MichaelPetrotta 51 chars after status is the outside boundary
 
3:19 AM
@drachenstern Ok. I failed :-)
The top. From the bottom works
 
Yay! \0/ MSSE is up to the next drive letter.
\D/
 
o<-<
@The hahaha
 
Dec 17 '10 at 17:32, by The Unhandled Exception
 \O
  |\
 / \
 
@TheRenamedException lol
 
3:21 AM
@drachenstern that feels so long ago now, LOL
 
@TheRenamedException I know ... damned ADHD
2
 
Of course, MSSE is shown the same message since about 10 minutes into the scan. "Preliminary scan results show that malicious or potentially ... Yada yada..." just finish already. 45 minutes later it's NOT PRELIMINARY ANYMORE.
 
can an Android work with iTunes on OSX?
 
@Moshe yes, it does that. Also see xkcd.com/612
 
3:26 AM
UG, my brother's friend just sent me a message on facebook, Subject: Hey, Tech help:
> Hey Josh! long time no talk, i'm having problems with my alienware computer. the intergrated webcam is not working, it wont turn on and no programs like skype ect. can detect it. I went to the main camera center and it also said it didnt detect the camera or the mic built in.
To Superuser!
@Fosco you have mail for real this time
 
hey friend of my brother that doesn't have time to keep in touch with me and doesn't really know what's going on in my life:

I've kind of moved on from technology and I don't mess with computers anymore. The monks have said that it's likely what caused the growth on the side of my neck, and if I keep thinking about technology that I'm probably going to die in the next year. Thank you for thinking of me, I appreciate it, but I'm not going to be able to help you with this problem. I suggest less computer games so you don't end up like me.
 
@TheRenamedException Don't you just love being a computer geek? :)
 
@drachenstern ROFLMFAO!!!!!!
Oh why didn't I send that????
 
my favorite day was when my younger cousins decided to go into computers
 
3:31 AM
... they started getting all the questions :)
 
@TheRenamedException Precisely.
 
Yeah as you can guess I've stopped doing as much support for any of my brothers and sisters friends... starting to turn relatives away too
 
@Zypher same with my younger brother!
 
@Zypher nice
 
He is now an Apple Genius!
 
3:32 AM
I need a few of those shirts.
 
It is AWESOME for me
 
Blah, my todo list for today has way too few items checked off. Bad Rebecca. ):
 
tsk tsk tsk
you should move to NYC we never get distracted here :)
 
Ok. MSSE is done.
 
Yeah, because I totally believe that. (;
 
3:33 AM
8 viri
Java related.
Browser modifier...
 
@Moshe now go download MBAM
 
@drach I am going to remove everything with MSSE first.
 
I'm still banging my head against my desk for how much time I wasted with tech support. >_<
 
@RebeccaChernoff :-(
 
@Moshe I thought you said it was done
1 min ago, by Moshe
Ok. MSSE is done.
that means, "done"
not "it finished the scan"
not "it's almost done"
not "calculating"
 
3:35 AM
Oh well. At least I have a definitive answer now. (:
 
Yea it is. Done scanning. My mistake.
Now it's done. Rebooting...
 
Oh my. I may have just made a grievous error
I assumed that loading images from 5 subdomains would make this application MUCH faster, instead the server is suddenly overloaded. eerp
 
@The then we will grieve together.
 
@Moshe lol
This is a definite nonimprovement
 
3:37 AM
@TheRenamedException I ... would not have assumed that. Why did you assume such a thing?
 
eerp.
 
It's almost always faster to load consecutive files from the same domain
 
And now MORe people are IMing me with tech questions!
 
otherwise you introduce lots of new lookups and new session initiations
@TheRenamedException my works above are CC-BY-SA ;)
 
Looks like MSSE did the trick.
Erm. Sort of. IE is not working.
@drach which av did you say?
 
3:42 AM
@Moshe I said MBAM (google it, or scroll up)
it's not really an AV
it's a different tool
 
Ah got it.
 
Ah ha, the server side cache was being repopulated
I should have known that
now let's try it
 
Mbam is now running.
 
Ok. Firefox didn't like loading images from 5 different domains,
it crashed. LOL
ok yeah this won't work
second attempt and it's slow as shit
 
@TheRenamedException Hrmp, that's odd
 
3:48 AM
oh well. looks like I'll be building a loading queue
 
Anyway, you know that browsers are restricted to loading two resource at a time from a single domain?
 
@YiJiang yeah but for sufficiently small resources it's faster to keep them coming off the same servers in the same domain
 
™™™™™™™i.imgur.com/bQX3a.jpg
No onebox?
 
did you put the http?
 
yeah..
™™™™™™™http://i.imgur.com/bQX3a.jpg
 
3:55 AM
@DanGrossman I see a bunch of unicode garbage before the url
 
@YiJiang yes, very strange. I will investigate tomorrow
 
No idea how that got there...
 
Also, a seond person just thought \o/ was pornographic
 
status-norepro
 
3:56 AM
Hmm...no... not unless your head is on upside down
 
@TheRenamedException I'm not entirely sure what a seond person is (:p) but if they thought that was pornographic show them this one
that did OB as the lamp pic right?
 
@drachenstern thanks for waiting until I could no longer correct my mistake :-)
 
@TheRenamedException technically I told you soon enough :p
also, it took time to lookup the pic to make them sequential
 

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