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12:12 AM
"Anttwon" has sent me 8 emails in the past 7 minutes with the message "I wants my refund now". That's "this guy".
 
@drachenstern Oh, I had to go out, heh. ;)
 
I sent the PayPal refund over 20 minutes ago, mind you.
 
But he wants it now, not 20 minutes ago!
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I'm happy not to have such frustrating customers, heh.
 
lmao at "now, not 20 minutes ago" ...
 
I just replied with a screenshot of the PayPal page showing the refund. He replied "wrong website". I have no idea what that means.
 
12:14 AM
@DanGrossman obviously you control paypal and you're the reason their infrastructure is slow ... I mean, it's as plain as the nose on his face!!!
 
@DanGrossman Maybe he means that he didn't buy ads on PayPal.
 
Ask him to email you a copy of his payment receipt, as a matter of recordkeeping?
That'll buy you time
 
That's the only way he's paid me.
 
and stop the bickering on his end, it's a very businessy thing to do
 
@drachenstern Yes, stalling tactics are very businessy. :)
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12:15 AM
You've already issued the refund. At this point asking him to provide proof of payment does nothing to stop the refund going back, nor accelerate it, but does give him a burden to fulfill
 
Maybe he expects you to refund him his money by PayPal putting cash directly into his hand through the computer.
 
According to the mail headers, he's sending the mails from his iPhone.
 
@DanGrossman so in other words, ... ... ... he's probably a young snot-nosed hipster?
 
He's a young african american wannabe rapper.
And he wants his refund.
Whoa.
Amazon servers apparently do not obey the laws of space and time
 
12:26 AM
@DanGrossman That's quite a blip.
 
@DanGrossman They call it a cloud, but it's really a "nebula" per Star Trek.
 
@mootinator The natural progression of Cloud 2.0
 
Here's another one:
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A: envelope icon says I got mail, but I don't

Lance RobertsIt's the most famous bug on Stack Overflow. A lot of those posts are marked status-completed, but we all know it's status-ignored.

Notice the black text in the status-completed tag.
 
@LanceRoberts That's [status-deferred] I think.
 
status-synonymous
 
12:35 AM
I'm pretty sure it's status-ignored
status-by-design
no?
 
status-yadda-yadda-yadda
 
status-hello-mootinator
 
The envelope, yes, but I think Kevin said he'd fix the status link colour issue at some point.
 
status-when-did-you-show-up
 
I suppose I could just test and recommend the CSS change..
 
12:36 AM
@drachenstern About 20 seconds after :391677
How is everyone tonight?
 
We need a moderator to create the tag synonym status-ignored for status-deferred.
 
@LanceRoberts yes we do, who do we know that would be amenable to that? @balpha?
 
So, what's still wrong with the envelope?
 
Apparently it's still misnotifying people somehow. But most of the notifications were offloaded to the StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™, so I'm not sure why that'd be.
 
Probably the old favorite notification bug since favorite notification still works through the envelope.
 
12:41 AM
@LanceRoberts You mean edits lighting up but now showing up on the page?
 
@mootinator to answer the question, I'm good ;)
 
@GeorgeMarian yep
 
@mootinator I'm not doing too bad either. I had this reply in my head, but I see now that I never actually wrote it.
That should probably alarm me a little.
 
There may be other bugs in it, but that's the elephant in the room.
 
Odd. That's been working for me for a while.
 
12:42 AM
@GeorgeMarian For me too.
 
It's been a few weeks since I've seen one.
I don't have time today to test it, but I'll have to do that next week.
 
It's a little annoying when I favourite something new and get notifications of the answers that were already posted when I favourited the question...but I don't favourite things that often, so no big deal.
 
@TimStone Yep, that's annoying.
 
Hello
 
Yah, that is annoying. However, not as bad the edits triggering but not showing up.
@TimStone Hola.
 
12:43 AM
Wrong T ;)
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'Ello
 
oh, ha
That joys of multitasking.
 
12:55 AM
needs to turn that Jimmy Wales extension off.
Ahh, the internet is suddenly much less creepy.
 
Anyone here have experience with Adobe AIR?
 
I have experience listening to other people talking about it.
 
status-return-false-plagues-so-on-dec-ninth-twenty-ten
@mootinator - Thanks, I need to program something now.
 
@Moshe I have some experience using an app running on AIR. Unfortunately, it wasn't as 'quick' as that statement would lead one to believe it should be. ;)
 
1:16 AM
> After some initial protests and several snide analogies to Fortran, you will make peace with this and start seeing its benefits.
Re: python's significant whitespace
@MarcGravell I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I just noticed that I've been booted out of my chat rooms on chat.se. =(
 
Evening everyone
 
'Ello @TheUnhandledException. Getting caught up on our gaming are we? ;)
 
@TheUnhandledException hey hey
 
hey
 
@TimStone I have a follower do I? ;-)
I transferred a bunch of questions off an old, dying SE 1.0 gaming site
 
1:25 AM
Speaking of gaming, dinner's done and the gf will want me to play some WoW with her. So, I guess I should reboot into windows and get a defrag started. o/
 
and earned lots of rep for my SOM question, LOL
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Q: Spoiler: Is there a 9th Sword orb in Secret of Mana?

JoshIn the SNES game Secret of Mana, all the weapons seem to have 9 orbs, and thus 9 variations, except the Mana Sword. It doesn't seem possible to forge the Mana Sword more than 7 times, to get it to level 9. Is there a way to forge the 8th level sword, the Dragon Buster? And if so, what is the 9th ...

 
@TheUnhandledException Hahah, I happened to spot them, yeah.
@GeorgeMarian Good times. :P
 
@TimStone I was kinda spamming the site with them ;-)
 
@TimStone Heh. Yah, I'm not excited about gaming these days, but I should do something with the gf. I guess it's a good thing we're both gamers. :)
 
Quality time is important. Even if it involves killing things. :)
 
1:27 AM
see y'all later
 
@GeorgeMarian rough games if I remember correctly ;-)
 
Enjoy
 
@TimStone LOL
 
@GeorgeMarian Later!
 
@TheUnhandledException ahaha, yes sometimes ;)
 
2:06 AM
anyone around?
 
watching "The Office"'s Christmas episode
 
I'm somewhat here. :P
 
I am waiting for the apprentice finale
 
2:08 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Oy!
 
@YiJiang Oo
 
I... have absolutely no idea what made me say that. /blame @RebeccaChernoff
 
shakes head
 
Oh god. The @RebeccaChernoff disease. It's spreading! Urrggghh... oy!
 
2:11 AM
...or maybe it is just you.
 
Oy vey (), or just oy, is an exclamation of dismay or exasperation meaning "oh woe." Its sound is very similar to Ach weh, and Au weh (with which it is a cognate), a common expression used in Bavaria and Austria in similar situations, combining the German exclamation Au! meaning "Ouch/Oh" and the German word Weh meaning pain, or Oy Wah, an expression used with a similar meaning in the Montbéliard region in France. It is however also theorized that the first part of it (oy) is originally from Biblical Hebrew, with cognates in other Semitic languages. Vey and the similar contemporary German...
 
@RebeccaChernoff It is. :P
 
@RebeccaChernoff I blame you! If at the end of all this all I can say is oy! you're getting it
 
so
I wanted to buy dermatology.com from a guy who had parked it
the guy at GabbyInvestments.com
he wants 7 million dollars
not that I can afford that; but is that domain really worth 7 mil?
 
@user152426 Probably not, but that's domain name grabbing for you
 
2:17 AM
wtf; I hate that
 
@YiJiang ...oy.
 
Well, he did get $18 million for plasticsurgeons.com...
 
did he really though?
 
Considering who owns it now, very possibly
No one-boxing for stock quotes eh? ;)
 
@RebeccaChernoff An oy to you too, oy!
 
2:34 AM
Hmmm, no, meetup.com. Thanks for letting me know, but I'm not interested in joining the new meetup group "Sacred Femininity: Awakening Our Essence".
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Geez, it is like this dude thinks he knows what he's talking about q:
 
I know right? Who does that guy think he is?!
 
Seriously.
(:
 
Heheh ;)
 
Yeah, how could that guy be doing anything useful? Who is it anyway?
 
2:38 AM
@YiJiang And where does he live?!
 
Was that a cue?
:disappears:
 
@DanGrossman No, I'm not in Beijing right now.
Also, what's that 22 behind that?
 
region
city, region, country
 
Surely not my age (my god, how did you know I was a 22 year old pretending to be 16 hiding behind this computer!?)
Anyway, my spam generator thingadongdong is working out pretty well
 
This group's first Meetup is already scheduled!

Chakra Trance Dance for Removing Obstacles & Achieving Success — Saturday, December 11, 2010
 
2:44 AM
@DanGrossman Well played, hahah.
 
@TimStone, anyways, nice work. (;
 
Thanks, let's hope it's correct and/or helpful :P
 
Meh. These things are optional.
 
Nothing like randomly digging through minified code instead of doing anything else I'm supposed to be doing.
Heheh, I'm fine with that :)
Ah, I remembered a feature request for the chat script too.
Oh, did you ever pull changes by the way?
 
@RebeccaChernoff But only on Meta :P
 
2:47 AM
checks
@YiJiang Unfortunately untrue. :P
 
@TimStone No really? (looks for counter-evidence)
 
@DanGrossman How did I miss this? Stupid work distracting me from Oy s!
 
@TimStone Hmm, I forgot. I've got to look over some things and reply to an email. And then write another email. And then if I still have energy, pull request time. >_<
 
The chat should play a sound when Oy is said
 
@RebeccaChernoff No rush :) My local copy requires a merge, and if you had done it I was just going to pull that, otherwise I can do it myself.
@TheUnhandledException I'd have to turn off the sound ;)
 
2:51 AM
@TimStone I think it should actually say "Oy" in a heavy Yiddish accent :-D
 
@TimStone I should probably just figure out how to give you access, lol.
 
@YiJiang To be fair, I think that most of the time that someone is wrong on SO they don't get undue credit. But I get super peeved when people answer mod_rewrite questions with crap that wouldn't ever work and people up vote them because they must think "Oh, look at that person...he must know what he's doing, I've heard of mod_rewrite!"
@TheUnhandledException That'd be extra hilarious if we made it the notification sound for chat.SE
@RebeccaChernoff Hahah :P
 
@RebeccaChernoff There's that collaborator thingadongdong for small projects, yes?
 
Hmm, if I remember correctly, I even did work at some point today...It's been a pretty productive Thursday.
I'll have to remember to throw a little NFS or Minecraft (or both) in here for good measure ;)
 
@TimStone Yeah, one can never get too *un*productive, no? :P
 
2:55 AM
I consider progress in games productivity, because it makes me look less lazy.
 
@TimStone I think this should be rolled into the chat script. What do you say @Rebecca?
 
She'll ban us from the repository for life ;)
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@TimStone But it'll be worth it, I'm telling ya
Of course, if we're really going to do it, we might as well drop in the smiley reversal script as well :P
 
@TimStone That was a perfect set up for @Rebecca to respond with a simple "Oy"
but she's sleeping on the job
 
She complimented my answer earlier, so I'm just going to step back and let you two dig your own hole. ;) Hahah
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2:58 AM
@TheUnhandledException I know. Fortunately I've tought KittenBot the rchernisms command, which should fill in the gap in the mean time
 
OMG DO WANT!
@TimStone Wait, you're right, what in the hell am I doing! My plumbing has been so good to me recently!
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I'm not asleep I'm just responding to an email I should have responded to 2 days ago. |:
 
I do that more often than i should :-(
 
Here's the list of rchernism the bot will randomly throw out
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 14 hours ago, by Yi Jiang
@CodingKitten Alright, let me try. Comma separated values: oy., oy, oy!, double oy, triple oy, |:, \o/, (:, ):, <_<, q:, (;, >_<, ^_^, o:
 
@RebeccaChernoff If it makes you feel better, I have a few support emails from three weeks ago.
 
3:01 AM
@YiJiang ...oy.
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(Again, let me stress that this is support for the open source project :P)
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rchernisms aside, that bot seems to have a lot of noise for little value. |:
not that those add any value either
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, that's why I may have tattled, just in case.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Just wait till I give Ivo the Dissociated Press script I've written there
 
Dissociated Press script?
 
3:03 AM
@RebeccaChernoff I one I was testing out earlier, you know
 
...in English please?
 
@RebeccaChernoff The script that's producing brilliant nuggests like this:
 
I'd like my explanation in traditional Chinese please.
 
11 hours ago, by Yi Jiang
> That's because .comment isn't the "offending user" is popular in Excel, VBA scripts that act on all of the radar last night, the right side ad bar
By splicing together bits of messages from messages in the transcript
 
Um, right. That getting added to the bot would put me squarely on the "get rid of the bot" side of things...
 
3:05 AM
@TimStone 那样子当然也可以,不过这里只有简体中文
 
Thanks
 
@TimStone That... wasn't the explaination. I was just saying that "Sure, I'll do that, but I can only do Simplified Chinese right now"
 
How do you know I wasn't thanking you for that? :P
I'm actually a bit ashamed that I never even tried to learn Mandarin. Instead I went with ten or so years of French, not sure what good that does me, heh.
 
@TimStone I erm... I... alright. But that doesn't mean you know Chinese
@TimStone So that you can speak English with a French accent. That always make me laugh
 
@YiJiang Yeah, the learning curve is a bit much for my average level of effort. :(
Ah, purpose found then.
 
3:13 AM
Right, so does anyone want a bot that can say stuff like this:
12 hours ago, by Yi Jiang
> @MarcGravell @radp Hey, I claim so it works as expected, matching all comment which I wasn't able to finish typing before he deleted it for another place where the internets end, and it's our star power combined...!
Instant classic, I'm telling ya!
 
lmao
 
@RebeccaChernoff (sticks @RebeccaChernoff onto the "People with no sense of humor" list)
 
My answer is also a resounding "No", but that one on its own makes me laugh :P
 
@YiJiang Seriously? After the countless snarky, sarcastic, funny things I say in here, and you don't think I have a sense of humor? ):
q:
 
3:16 AM
"for another place where the internets end" Makes me think of the end of the world.
The script is getting philosophical, that
@RebeccaChernoff Of course I was joking, what, have you no sense of humor? :P
 
As was I. (;
 
My mind has been blown by your respective masterful facades.
 
@TimStone I know, right?
 
claps
 
It worries me that all but 3 of the starred items I see are about me. |:
 
3:22 AM
To be fair, we reached near-maximum star density in a very short time up there.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, worrying indeed (goes off to star more stuff so that those three gets pushed off)
 
And to be even more fair to me...I wasn't involved. Blame them. :P
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@TimStone My god, it's full of stars!
@TimStone The Wheel of Blame blames me... so, erm... Oy! myself!
 
The WOB has spoken, and its truth was well received.
 
4:22 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Well played ;) (re: Stack Flair advertisement)
 
 
1 hour later…
5:25 AM
Hmm, I wonder why that calendar isn't displaying..
 
5:35 AM
It does though.
It just disappears.
 
Yeah
 
The awesomeness that is the score next to tags? :P
 
correct
now hover on it
 
Does it count if I already saw your post saying what will get pushed out?
 
5:42 AM
no it does not :)
 
I also saw said post ;)
 
Points for honesty? (;
 
@waffles Even more awesome :D
 
Indeed.
 
@jonskeet always messes up these features
 
5:43 AM
hehehe
 
his user page looks really scary
 
Luckily you did an update and delete though. You've saved us all!
 
Heheh ;)
 
lol
 
Hmm, I tried to call .datepicker('show') on the calendar, but no dice. /blames jQuery (UI)
 
5:49 AM
@GeorgeMarian troublemaker
 
I've not had any more problems, so clearly he was lying. ;)
 
Hehe.
I see the most popular tag on a question is being added into the title on meta. Testing that out before rolling to SO? Assuming that's due to the SEO issues.
 
Wha?
Ah, I see what you mean now.
 
Ah, 'tis on SO now too.
 
Title is far too ambiguous of a word. shakes fist at terminology...people
 
5:55 AM
Heh.
Of course with as many tabs as I have, all I see in the tab is "java - " and "bug - " right now. ):
 
Yeah, hrm..
Even worse, I'm going to become continuously enraged by all of the tabs that are labeled .htaccess when they really should be about mod_rewrite :P
 
Maybe I'll be persuaded to answer faster now, heheh.
 
You could just toss your xbox out the window.
 
That seems like a terrible idea. ;)
@waffles Is it expected that the score on the user profile page might not match that on the top users page?
 
6:06 AM
I wonder if it would be equivalent if the tag was added to the end of the title. |:
 
To Webmasters!
 
Hehe, nice, good idea.
 
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Q: Is there any way to tag more than 50 people in Facebook photo?

WebLoverMy dear friend is stuck in a problem. He's tagged his wedding invitation to his friends but he have a lot of friends and now there become angryness between friends who want to know why they are not tagged. Please tell me is there any way to tag more than 50 Persons on a photo? Do I have to send...

You're lucky that he decided to put a little more work into spelling the second time around ;)
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Q: is there any way to tag more than 50 people in facebook photo??

diEchoHi, i stuck in problem. my friend tag his wedding invitation to friends.... he have a lot of friends...now there bcome disput in friends that y they r not tagged?? so Please tell me is there any way to tag more than 50 Persons on a photo.. Please responde?? do have to mail to facebook for th...

 
Didn't that get posted on MSO earlier today?
 
I didn't see it, but I fell asleep around 1ish I think, for a bit. :P
Anyone else see a little problem with the UI on UI?
 
6:14 AM
Nice and minimalist =p
 
Heheh
 
Oh, I see -- @import rules need to come first in the file
 
Same thing with programmers.se
 
> Not just Programmers. Seems to be any beta site from the ones I've spot-checked. – Rebecca Chernoff 0 secs ago edit
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Q: No styles on programmers.se

Tim PostAt the time of this writing, there are no styles on programmers.stackexchange.com (or its meta site). Tried with multiple browsers on multiple computers. Is this a new feature that was introduced to nudge us to get back to work after nn page loads?

 
cough @waffles cough
 
6:18 AM
I think the devs are jealous of Matt's badge and are going after their own now. |:
 
.wide-tag-col{width:230px;}#tags-table .answer-votes{margin-right:5px;width:25px;margin-top:2px;}@import url('../Skins/sketchy/all.css');#hlogo a{background-image:url(img/logo.png);}
 
Well, it is beta.
 
This has incriminating waffle tracks all over it
 
refreshes Webmasters looking for a new question.
 
The CSS before the @import is from the new tag-score-in-profile feature ;)
 
6:20 AM
hahahahaha
 
(In case you aren't a CSS person: "In CSS 2.1, any @import rules must precede all other rules (except the @charset rule, if present)")
 
Naughty @waffles!
 
Apparently it's C#'s fault though.
 
So sayeth the wheel?
 
Which could be possible, maybe the build process is to blame or something, and therefore C# by way of Visual Studio? connects the dots
 
6:24 AM
Well, you know ... c's sharp.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Indeed.
 
Where's Chacha to move something to the bad joke room when we need it? |:
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hides
 
Heheh ;)
 
Pffft, now he'll think I was serious.
 
Interesting though, how many things don't work when 'naked css' is applied
 
6:27 AM
I'M HERE!!!
 
Whew, we were so concerned there for a minute.
 
@TimPost Hm, what doesn't work?
 
Ah , my bad .. voting does work
 
I imagine it's pretty hard to tell though
 
6:29 AM
Yeah, it's not obvious
even seeing a count of up / down votes works. I'm actually impressed
WMD is kind of funny .. all of the buttons are actually bullets
 
Yeah, it is pretty amazing what a little CSS can do.
 
^ Is it suppose to be like that?
 
Looks like it's fixed
 
@YiJiang Duh.
 
@TimStone I blame the Cascading Style Sheet
 
6:39 AM
Yes, I'm not sure why anyone though that pushing sheets of styles over waterfalls would ever end up with the desired effect.
But yeah, that's all IE you're seeing there, looks fine in Firefox.
 
(Waits eagerly for the post above to be moved to the Bad Jokes room)
@TimStone Firefox 3.6.12, actually.
 
Oh, really?
status-norepro
 
@waffles, curious as to what you think of LessCSS. Saw it mentioned in a conf but haven't played with it yet.
 
@TimStone It works if I disable the 2px margin-top on the #tags-table .answer-votes style
@RebeccaChernoff I say, "Meh~"
 
@TimStone yerp ... the one in stats is only updated daily
@RebeccaChernoff well I like it , personally I prefer SASS though ... but not sure if there is a proper .net port
 
6:43 AM
@waffles My number is higher there, though...hm.
 
@TimStone Downvotes FTW!
 
@YiJiang ** total rep 5023 :)
Oh, that didn't work out quite as expected. :P
But, they're the same. ;)
 
@TimStone 7 more upvotes and you get the illustrious .htaccess badge :)
 
Yep. :)
 
@waffles Never heard of SASS. Googled. (: If only there was a site we could ask about this stuff.
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Q: Using SASS with ASP.NET

Guðmundur HI'm looking into ways to use SASS (Syntactically Awesome StyleSheets) from the Ruby HAML package in an ASP.NET environment. Ideally, I would like compilation of SASS files into CSS to be a seamless part of the build process. What are the best ways to this integration? Alternatively, are there ot...

 
6:45 AM
jeez ... nobody botes on that tag
 
Gumbo is miles ahead of me, but what can you do. :P
 
@TimStone Answer more?
 
@RebeccaChernoff The tag gets so little love, it's still going to take forever. :P
 
(Are you ever going to ask that WM question? q:)
 
Oh, you misunderstood me.
So, no. ;)
 
6:49 AM
o:
 
I'm still hanging on to the fact that I've yet to ask an actual question on a SE site. :P
 
Hows it going all?
 
Pretty good
 
@TylerChacha Getting annoyed by the fact that some of the users on SO speak really really bad English
 
7:01 AM
> Currently installing Adobe Pixel Bender Toolkit 2.4 update...
Ah ha..
 
@TimStone Hmm? What's so funny?
Oh, Bender hehe...
 
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Q: Does the order of keywords matter in a page title?

rchernStack Overflow has made a change to their page titles such that the most popular tag for a question appears at the start of the title. The change is being deployed across the network, so check out the page title for this question. Compare the question title and the page title for this questio...

 
I was wondering what Adobe was trying to do bending my pixels..
(I hadn't heard of Pixel Bender before)
@RebeccaChernoff :)
You wrote it much nicer than I would have anyway.
Since my brain is still trying to figure out where the last few days went and such.
 
@TimStone Pixel Blender is a toolkit for Flash
No wait... the name is Pixel Bender
 
7:07 AM
Urg... my memory
 
do bent pixels look darker?
maybe kinda corrupted.
or maybe they just do those very noce patterns you get when you press your finger on a lcd square!
*nice
 
Hahah :P
 
*monitor
my latte isn't working too well yet.
 
7:41 AM
Hmm
 
7:53 AM
document.title = document.title.substring(document.title.indexOf('-') + 2);
Ah... removes those pesky tags from the question titles
 

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Hahah, brilliant
 

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