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1:01 AM
@user152426 I call shenanigans.
I know dozens of med students/residents, and not one of them has the time to do coding -- or anything -- on the side.
 
1:12 AM
@user152426 see also this post:
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Q: Impossible to Launch Site With All New Users on Area 51?

John ShedletskyI've been trying to get a technical support site for our game, ROBLOX up and running on Area-51 for the past several days. I whipped 180 people into a fury and sent that to that page (for some reason my referral count - once 150+, bounced back to ~90). Most sites launch at between 200-400 commit...

 
@PopularDemand Good find
 
@MichaelMrozek Thanks. I wish I had better news. I don't have a proposal followed by a hundred new users, but that'd really annoy me if I did.
 
 
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3:47 AM
It seems like the overflow problem might now have been fixed after all
 
overflow problem?
 
Nope. So why does it appear in chat.stackapps?
Oh, right. Inline code
Aha! Tada
 
scratches head
 
Right.
 
3:50 AM
you need a wider monitor.
 
@rchern I can add in a few more ha!s
 
You made my non-maximized window horizontally scroll. This makes me sad. :(
 
We found something for @balpha to do! q:
 
Hrm
 
@rchern He'll come over and sweep the messages over to the sandbox, hehe...
 
3:52 AM
Now when I enter a message the chat scrolls to the center.
And back again..
What the hell chat, what the hell.
 
@TimStone Yeah, I have that too
But hey, the overflow thingy worked, right?
 
I still have no idea what you're talking about.
 
@TimStone It is @YiJiang, what do you expect?
 
The original box that scrolled within the message boundary?
 
@rchern Oy!
 
3:54 AM
@rchern Fair point. ;)
 
@YiJiang Don't you oy me! Oy!
 
@TimStone There is a long standing comments bug with long messages overflowing
 
Yeah?
 
It doesn't with normal messages in chat, but with <code> it does, apparently
 
Right.
 
3:57 AM
do we have /ignore in the userscript?
 
@rchern I wanted to add that but you didn't think it was necessary at the time. :p
I did add /flag though ;)
 
@TimStone That explains how @rchern can still flag my messages!
 
@TimStone I think it is necessary now. >_<
(;
 
I just wrote a userstyle called Yi Jiang Fixer that display:block; overflow:auto;-ifies the code elements.
 
But it's so much easier to just ignore him...
 
4:00 AM
@TimStone Meh, adding overflow: hidden to .messages works better
 
@rchern I agree. :P
@MichaelMrozek This is true
 
Goes off to post flashing banners while he still can
/ignore everyone && /hidesintocorner && /cry
 
Heh.
 
I'm not sure what he said. :P
 
@TimStone /sob Oy!
 
4:12 AM
Oy is right.
 
shakes head
 
 
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5:30 AM
I don't like it when people change avatars.
Yeah, I'm looking at you @Jin. (;
 
Jin
@rchern oh on twitter?
 
Hehe. I was very confused about who I was reading.
 
Jin
it's for the blue beanie day..
i'll change it back tomorrow
 
@YiJiang, dammit, your inline code is still making the window jump all over.
Blue beanie day?
 
@rchern You didn't hide it? :P
 
Jin
5:33 AM
@rchern it was my doing. i just removed @YiJiang msgs so I don't get the scrollbar :)
 
Victory is ours!
 
-1 @YiJiang, +10000000000 @Jin.
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Jin
blue beanie day is a web dev geek thing...
well, more web designer than dev.
 
So I see.
 
Hm, I'm not sure if I should feel ashamed about not knowing about that. :P
 
5:37 AM
Goes off to get actual work done
 
Hm, apparently the guy who tried to kill a state police officer near here yesterday is still at large. Good stuff..
 
@TimStone You have a strange definition of good.
 
Yeah...hrm.
Argh, I'm starting to get a bit anxious about this code overhaul, heh.
@rchern I think we need to add more creative features to the userscripts.
 
6:17 AM
droidstack works pretty well.. chatting from my phone
 
Nice :)
 
@TimStone (;
 
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A: IE6 totally broken on chat.stackoverflow.com

Marc GravellWe looked at the numbers pretty recently when we merged chat.SU and chat.SF into chat.SE, and even for IE7 the number was pretty low. For IE6, it is another order of magnitude lower. So on one hand the net benefit from supporting IE6 is exceeding (and decreasingly) low; on the other hand the ef...

Hahahah
I can see Marc right now, typing away at the chat code with two hands, shaking his third hand at us angrily. ;)
 
Hahaha
Awesome.
 
For some reason this mental image was accompanied by a Scooby-doo-esque "Those meddling programmers!"
 
6:26 AM
I still prefer this...
Oct 15 at 20:57, by Shog9
pictures balpha, enraged, trashing the server room with a 2x4 yelling "bal-FAH? bal-FAH?!!"
 
Heheh ;)
Hm, this reminds me that I still wanted to interrogate Marc over that whole retry business. Not that it matters, but I'm still curious.
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Now you shan't forget!
 
Hooray!
I actually had removed the input-clearing bit, then realized that if the click handler does it I actually needed to save the original value, heh.
...Which I assume works, since I was too lazy to generate a real retry situation.
I guess I can do it if I type really fast right?
Like this
There are far too many administrative tickets in this system. grumbles
 
That's what the delete button is for!
 
Heheh, I wish!
We use them for keeping track of...well, administrative stuff, time-wise.
But there are like 15 different ones, and I never know where to put hours..
 
7:14 AM
ROFL.
Google can now translate to and from Techno-Viking.: http://www.jwz.org/blog/?p=13239383
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Hahahah, that's great
198 hours logged!
wins
 
 
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8:53 AM
Here I thought someone was messing with me, but this customer's company name really is "foo".
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Oh well, at least you won't need to anonymise code samples when you post them on SO :)
 
In other news I'm considering starting a Q&A site about GraphViz and pals.
dot.stackexchange.com
well okay, http colon slash slash slash dot dot com is better at it.
 
@radp That is awesome, how did anyone ever find that?!
 
I wish I knew why our comment fields are so slow on iPhone / iPad
gotta be some weird bug or oddity; I can't imagine the OnKeyDown (or whatever it's called) code is doing that much
if you have an iDevice, try it yourself. Typing in a comment field on any SE engine site is brutally slow.. almost comically so
not a big fan of iPad (mostly because it is so very much a V1 device) but it works great on our sites.. 1024x768 is a perfect res for our sites
that said, we do disable the WMD editor on all mobile devices
 
9:13 AM
Uh, the WMD editor is enabled and working (kinda) on Opera Mobile.
waits for Jeff's operahammer
Bold and Italic are kinda bugged, but insert link worked just okay. Even upload image works! What gives? :P
 
9:28 AM
i wonder if you guys ever delete the chat logs and empty private chatrooms which are never used ?
 
Regex _MobileUserAgent = new Regex(@"android [\d\.]+;|(iphone|ipod|ipad);|opera mini/", RegexOptions.IgnoreCase | RegexOptions.Compiled)
@Reno yes this is documented in the chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/faq
look for the words "Will these rooms exist forever?"
 
yeah i remember reading this
i guess its up to the room creator to delete unused rooms that they created accidently
thanks :)
 
 
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11:28 AM
I'm so torn
Sane dualscreen or Minecraft?
Why do you make me choose, nVidia!
 
12:06 PM
alright which one of you did this
lol
ah its back up now
 
12:55 PM
I just went over and made some small adjustments to the Wheel. jsfiddle.net/yijiang/AYPpF/4/embedded/result
 
@JeffAtwood As in, when you type it takes a long time for the text to appear? No repro? I didn't try submitting a comment, but typing it in seems as responsive as normal. Am I doing it wrong? Heh.
''orning.
 
@rchern '''rning
 
(;
 
1:24 PM
Anyway, I've updated that wheel to reflect @rchern more accurately:
 
Good Whatever, everyone.
 
@YiJiang ...
allo @Fosco
 
Anyway, this place is beautiful.
 
@YiJiang nice pic
 
Also, look what I found!
 
1:40 PM
...
 
@rchern Yak yak yak yak yak...!
 
1:52 PM
12 mins ago, by rchern
...
 
According to chat.SE I have 17.6k rep on Gaming.
 
@radp Your combined rep, maybe?
 
@YiJiang Um, yes indeed.
I didn't think it'd be that high.
I wonder if that means I get to see flags, though.
 
@radp Interesting question, yes. I think I've also got 10k+ combined rep
Maybe head over to the sandbox and erm... annoy @balpha by flagging a message? :P
 
I'm always able to see my flags no matter what.
 
2:06 PM
@radp A slower method would be to ask @Marc directly
 
2:22 PM
> Second-time novelist Rowan Somerville has pipped Alastair Campbell to the post to win the Literary Review's bad sex in fiction award.
> The novel includes the line: "She released his hair from her fingers and twisted onto her belly like a fish flipping itself."
> Somerville said: "There is nothing more English than bad sex, so on behalf of the entire nation, I thank you."
 
3:21 PM
yawns
 
I've been experimenting around with some random jQuery effects, and I have to say, the result is quite pretty: jsfiddle.net/yijiang/KccwU
 
Hahah
 
With apologies to @rchern, of course :P
 
...
Should I even bother clicking?
 
@rchern Yes! The effect is quite interesting
 
3:31 PM
@rchern It's not that bad. ;)
 
@YiJiang Nice :) I like it.
 
Hehe.
 
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Q: [status-greasemonkey] as a tag for greasmonkey-implemented but here declined or planned feature-requests

Tobias Kienzleror workarounds of "bugs" that are not directly caused by SE but rather FF and yet only relevant on SE. Example: this FF bug

Brilliant, hahah.
@rchern Ah, even better. The attempted murderer at large I was talking about last night turned himself in.
 
Well, that's me snowed in
 
@AidenBell Your gravatar? ;)
'Ello @AidenBell
 
3:41 PM
Hello @TimStone
How's things?
 
Not too bad, yourself?
 
Cold, stuck in the house snowed in.
Havn't been in here for a few days, missed anything?
 
Oh wow, really? I don't think we've seen anything resembling snow yet this year.
Not really, everything went dark on account of American Thanksgiving it seems, so fairly quiet.
 
That's England at the moment
 
Looks a bit chilly
 
3:47 PM
Aye, the English don't really do snow. A few inches and all our cars get stuck and the roads turn to ice ... so we moan and stay in
 
We got a bit of snow on thanksgiving day, that's about it here in PA, US.
 
@AidenBell Sounds like the Pacific Northwest. :)
 
@GeorgeMarian - all I know is my car is stuck lol
 
Do you at least get the day off? :P
 
4:00 PM
I work from home so no :S
 
@AidenBell I didn't make it past the small hill just past the driveway. Granted, that's because "performance" tires don't exactly perform well in the snow and ice. :)
 
@AidenBell Oh, that's rather unfortunate.
 
Something like that may be in my future. lol
 
... that just seems wrong, logically.
 
@GeorgeMarian - Same boat here, maybe an option
 
4:04 PM
@GeorgeMarian I remember reading that those are more trouble than they're worth. Not 100% sure where... Consumer Reports, maybe?
 
is curious what prompted @JeffAtwood to spontaneously appear in the chatrooms ...
 
The problem was that you're not supposed to leave them on for long periods of time, and it's a hassle to get out and put them on at the bottom of a hill and remove them when you get up the hill.
Perhaps they make better ones now.
 
@drachenstern People like us repeatedly pinging him with @JeffAtwood, of course
 
@PopularDemand Thanks for pointing that out. I still need to do more research.
 
@YiJiang So do you think if we keep using @JeffAtwood it will cause him to stick his head back in? :p
 
4:06 PM
These are supposedly a new design or something, IIRC.
 
@GeorgeMarian Good luck.
 
@drachenstern It'll surely surprise him tomorrow morning to see four '@JeffAtwood's appear in his inbox
 
@drachenstern He's got some time-off from work?
 
@YiJiang so how's Chy-ner (as I've heard people here pronounce it repeatedly ...)
@YiJiang No, it'll only say five mentions for @JeffAtwood I believe, and point him at chat
@PopularDemand early reply testing
 
@GeorgeMarian @JeffAtwood works? I thought he just lounged around all day in his replica Scrooge McDuck gold coin pit.
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4:07 PM
@drachenstern Cold, dry, heavily censored, beautiful
What did I leave out there?
 
@YiJiang Excellent
 
Oh, and no appearance of Crab Vending machines. Yet.
 
@YiJiang Why are you even online?
 
I've fround tire cables that only require 6 mm of clearance. I just worry about cables and my nice rims. Gah. They make all the difference to car's handling...except in snow. lol
@PopularDemand ROFL
 
4:08 PM
@PopularDemand Took a while, but this VPN Tor Satellite connection was well worth it, as you can see
 
@PopularDemand it's only midnight there
So is there a reason to go into chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/* except for #17? ... :p
 
@drachenstern It's not about time zones, it's about why you'd waste valuable moments of your life in the sinkhole that is The Tavern when you have beautiful mountains outside to look at and the natural majesty of crab vending machines to discover.
 
@PopularDemand ooooh, well then, um, yarr, @YiJiang why are you in here? :p
speaking of why am I in here ....
attends to his debug session
 
@drachenstern @PopularDemand It's midnight here, which means that the chances of me either seeing mountains or finding crab vending machines is erm... around zero
 
@drachenstern Based on what I've seen in the Java room, no, not really.
 
4:12 PM
@PopularDemand Yeah, that really disappointed me.
 
@PopularDemand lol, yay I'm not the only one to see it ;)
 
mmmm....crab from a vending machine...
 
@drachenstern I'll second that
 
looks for a trashcan
 
@GeorgeMarian I know, now I'm hungry. :(
 
4:12 PM
@YiJiang see :286242
for those who missed it somehow (oh the horrors)
http://chat.stackoverflow.com Java room, 1.4k messages. JavaScript room, 29.1k messages. #signothetimes
 
@drachenstern Java room, 0.1 quality, JavaScript room, 0.9 quality. So... yeah.
 
@drachenstern Meh, JS developers are so much more chatty
 
Another detailed design-spec from @codinghorror in our meeting yesterday: "make it awesome"
 
Especially when it comes to moaning about cross-browser compatibility
 
4:13 PM
I preferred that one
 
@YiJiang It's easy to be chatty when you're not working with real programming languages Oh burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
 
Just look at the list of starred messages
@PopularDemand /flag :P
 
@PopularDemand hmmmm, I work in JS and C# daily ... what're you saying? I should break out the butterflies huh?
@drachenstern I can see @JeffAtwood sitting at a table going "{new idea}: @MarcGravell make it awesome" but I hear Jean-Luc saying "make it so" ... hmmm
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@drachenstern I'm not sure that's really an indication of anything other than the chat not attracting the high rep users who answer [java] questions, heh.
@drachenstern Hahahah
 
@TimStone well yeah, that's rather the point isn't it? nobody wants to or has a need to get answers to Java questions, either it's fully mature, it's dead, or everyone has given up supporting it
 
4:18 PM
@Tim now i hear shaun connery saying "make it so number one" in my head
 
@drachenstern No, I'm saying there's a lot of [java] people, they just don't go to chat, probably because of the people in chat. :P
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@TimStone Like I'm saying, there's a lot of people on SO, but they just don't go to MSO, probably... because of the people there
 
@Zypher Mr. Gravell has the bridge
 
@TimStone lmao
@Zypher you're welcome ;)
When @MarcGravell and @JeffAtwood get to their browsers in the morning they're going to be all "wtf?" hehehehee
 
@YiJiang Exactly. ;)
 
4:21 PM
Note to self: when moving the data from an old table to a new table that queries reference, ensure to run the query that actually moves the data to the new table...
 
@drachenstern Surely @MarcGravell won't mind? Or should we call in @balpha too?
@TimStone Pop open the first question, see giant sparkling unicorns, scratches head, leaves
 
@YiJiang I don't think @balpha is going to care :p ... I'm not saying @MarcGravell will care, I'm just saying he'll be all " o_O " and then all /facepalm
@YiJiang you forgo the FHCs
 
@YiJiang They probably see the freehand circles and think they walked into a damn kindergarten. :P
 
@drachenstern But come on, @balpha, @MarcGravell and @JeffAtwood probably have better things to do, right?
 
peeks back in and gets a confused look on her face
 
4:24 PM
@YiJiang So do I, but I'm here!
 
What the heck? |:
 
@rchern I'm confused by your confusion over the insanity of the chat.
 
@YiJiang would think that @balpha, @MarcGravell and @JeffAtwood would enjoy popping in on chat more often ;)
@rchern we're just doing our regular "it's the AM and nobody wants to work yet" meandering chattiness
 
@TimStone Heh, fair point I suppose.
 
@rchern ;)
 
4:25 PM
also, we're fooling with @balpha, @MarcGravell and @JeffAtwood
 
So I've noticed.
 
@rchern But of course doing a whole round of "Hey @rchern!" would work too, eh?
 
hey @rchern!
oh, too late? dangit ... note to self: work on timing
 
Hey @rchern!
 
hides
 
4:26 PM
lol
 
Rovio!
 
rchern's router!
 
[status-@balpha]
 
Oh, denied by chat.
 
Ah... doesn't work. Too bad
 
4:27 PM
status-lrn2status
 
Hello
 
'Ello
 
status-oy
 
status-fail
 
4:28 PM
@YiJiang This should totally be a status used on meta.
 
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Q: Detect deleted questions with many upvotes

systempuntooutRecently I have bookmarked a classic question (+128 upvotes) that after a couple of weeks has mysteriously disappeared because deleted. I have to say thanks to my bookmark that allowed me to track it down*, anyway it was just a lucky coincidence. Do you guys have some way to detect deleted quest...

now w/ [status-fail]
 
@Chacha102 Eh? I thought [status-*] tags were reserved
 
@YiJiang Maybe I'm just that special...
 
status-tummy-ache
 
Hmmm... apparently not
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Q: Formatting Sandbox

Ólafur WaageAs per Jeff's suggestion here in the comments. You can use this question as a formatting sandbox (if you can edit CW questions) and you can post answers if you wanna test out formatting there as well. That is if the community is ok with a sandbox question like this.

 
4:32 PM
Dang, I forgot to pick-up some ginger ale on the way home this morning.
 
Does ginger ale have ginger in it?
 
@Chacha102 Canada Dry advertises as being made with real ginger.
 
Some brands do, especially the non-mass-market brands. I.e. the kinds you'd find at Whole Foods.
 
@PopularDemand You mean Canadia Dry?
 
Anyway, where's @TheUnhandledException these few days?
 
4:35 PM
I apologize if any of you are Canadian... but you gotta admit, Canadia is kinda funny...
 
I think a big part of is the alka-seltzer like effect, w/o the desire to vomit.
 
@YiJiang That's a good question, where has Josh gotten off to? .. shame I haven't been in here myself so idk
@Chacha102 eh? :p
 
I say Canadia all the time. But I'm allowed, since I lived there for six years.
 
@Chacha102 Americana is pretty funny too, ya know
 
@drachenstern I imagine he's....preoccupied with certain life adventures.
(unfortunately)
 
4:37 PM
@TimStone Dang! Now how would he know when I've found the vending machines?
 
Here's to the crazy ones...
 
@GeorgeMarian Just keep pressure on your cricoid cartilage and smile constantly. You'll be fine.
 
@YiJiang Picture or it didn't happen
 
@PopularDemand Interesting. Learn something new every day.
 
The misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers
 
4:52 PM
oh good lord, could I have gotten the data-pull logic any more wrong for this page? ffs, rewrite is almost mandatory
 
@drachenstern Sure. You could've imported Skynet. (I assume you didn't because I'm still alive and there doesn't appear to be a machine revolution outside.)
 
@PopularDemand I hadn't upgraded the equipment in those machines, it's still trying to do massively parallel computation on a set of Xeon Irwindales...
Give it time, it'll auto-order the necessary parts for replacement, I anticipate that'll happen sometime after December 21 ...
2012 that is ;)
 
5:08 PM
@TimStone I've got lots of pictures without any crab vending machines, if that's what you want
Like, say, this one I posted earlier:
3 hours ago, by Yi Jiang
user image
 
@YiJiang Can't you, like, Photoshop one in just to tide us over?
 
@YiJiang Those would be interesting too. :P
 
status-late-for-class
 
Well, okay, it's not my greatest Photoshop, but hey, use your imagination, yeah?
 
5:17 PM
Hah
 
Just look at what the dogs are looking at. Mmmhmmm... crabs...
 
@YiJiang No, I'm pretty sure that's an adult male human. Close, though.
Wow. Way to freeze, there, Firefox.
 
@PopularDemand General direction, not specific, else you'll end up like @radp thinking that SO is a middle aged guy wandering around airports
Which... well, it might be, but then we'll be overestimating the power of SO's servers, which strictly speaking should really be a pair of hamsters running on a hamster wheel
 
> NASA will hold a news conference at 2 p.m. EST on Thursday, Dec. 2, to discuss an astrobiology finding that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life. Astrobiology is the study of the origin, evolution, distribution and future of life in the universe.
any speculation as to what they might have discovered?
And my ADDness is telling me I will totally forget they are announcing anything SETI ... maybe I should set a reminder? :p
 
@drachenstern No, but does anyone know the route to the nearest Food Insurance store?
 
5:33 PM
@PopularDemand you think the zombie apocalypse is coming?
@drachenstern okay your reminder is set, you should've done that you know ...
@drachenstern thanks mate, I owe you one in the future
 
@drachenstern Hey, I never said zombie. It's just as likely to be hostile alien takeover.
 
Hey, what is the easiest way to see IE on my mac
 
@YiJiang I blame your caption.
 
5:56 PM
@balpha The chat swallows duplicate messages?
 
yes
 
Interesting. :P
 
o:
Did @TimStone just summon @balpha?
 
@rchern Dum dum da dum! </suspenseful segue>
I was actually confused, because I tried to "test", "test", and the screen flickered and that was it, heh.
 
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