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2:39 AM
sends out search parties to find the missing activity
 
2:53 AM
@TimStone Sorry, I was playing Mahjong with my family, and there's little point in anyone else talking if I'm not here
 
That seems like a much more reasonable thing to be doing than sitting in chat on a Saturday night anyway, heh. :P
 
3:16 AM
recursive cat is recursive
 
3:43 AM
just a for loop though, not an infinite loop.
 
@rchern When you get done with that whole holiday thing and get bored, there's a pull request you can occupy yourself with :P
 
I saw. Will do it tomorrow when I'm back home and on my computer.
 
Sounds good, I just wanted to let you know it was there. :)
 
After I smack my router. ):
Hehe yeah, I get an email when an issue is created. (:
 
Smack it with a Rovio!
Ah, I guess that would make sense, heheh, my bad. :P
 
3:52 AM
Rovio!
):
Rovio must be sleeping.
 
Probably tired out from Thanksgiving festivities
 
mm
 
I saw an ad at some point for a Black Friday-priced Rovio.
 
I want one, just for the sake of having one.
 
The value of having a Rovio is having it be somewhere else that you can control it hehe.
Though I'm sure I could <del>torture</del><ins>entertain</ins> my cat with it.
 
3:58 AM
Hahah
Oh good, a holiday Snuggie commercial. Because advertisements couldn't get more obnoxious.
 
Ha-hah! Victory is mine!
I suspect that I fixed my wireless connection on the grounds that it's still showing me as connected to the Internet after more than five minutes.
 
That's generally a good indication. What was wrong with it in the first place? :P
 
It kept cycling through ~3mins working, ~30mins not working. Only the wireless, though. Plugging an ethernet cable in fixed everything.
I changed the broadcast channel and the problem went away.
Took me a while to figure that out, though.
 
Ah, good ol' random interference, heh.
 
Someone new must've moved into the building.
Thank you, advanced Windows diagnostic menu that I probably couldn't find again if my life depended on it.
 
4:06 AM
They do a pretty good job at hiding that stuff, don't they?
 
Just like everything else in technology. Abstraction's great... until it doesn't work and you need the details.
 
I remember a friend of mine who apparently lived at the epicenter of all global 2.4Ghz interference...had to tweak the settings just right, otherwise the signal would always get quashed. Not really sure what was interfering (wasn't their phones, didn't seem to be many wireless networks about)...but yeah.
 
oh man
I forgot American thanksgiving was now
I ate my turkey so long ago
 
Back in October? :P
 
yes
wow, it's been a while
I think we should celebrate both thanksgivings in Canada
moar turkey
 
4:09 AM
@CarsonMyers You are aware that there are no regulations against turkey consumption when it's not Thanksgiving, right?
 
haha
 
.... :|
I bet I can eat bacon whenever I want, too!
 
Only if you beat @Jin to it.
 
@CarsonMyers Both Canadian and regular kind, no less.
 
oh wow, my options are limitless!
 
4:11 AM
Customers who enjoyed "bacon overindulgence" and "turkey gorging" also liked "eating ice cream for all three meals one day."
 
I bet I could even have a fourth, unsanctioned meal of icecream
and a fifth!
I wonder if there's a downside to all this?
 
Now you're just being ridiculous.
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Woo! I just took my first pictures of stars.
 
Nifty
 
they're pretty bad. But you can't even see the stars, and the pictures are full of them. So it was obviously difficult to focus.
 
4:32 AM
Why must people try to vandalize their questions?
And suspended, good show.
 
 
1 hour later…
5:55 AM
I saw that, and immediately thought "With a band saw"
5
Even though that would be grossly untrue.
 
@TimStone Bwahaha
 
;)
 
Though the sort of protective eyewear you might wear while using a bandsaw might be a legitimate answer.
 
This is true
 
6:35 AM
Hello
 
 
2 hours later…
8:54 AM
Oh wow... zero users active
 
9:18 AM
I'm not active. I'm a ninja's shadow.
 
 
7 hours later…
Wes
3:50 PM
@YiJiang Now seven hours later still no activity on any room
@radp obviously.
 
@Wes Welcome to Sundays.
 
Wes
Thanks.
So everyone in here is usally working. Or at least in a location where they get paid to sit. I guess.
 
 
3 hours later…
6:36 PM
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I get this clear error message out of [Shooter's Solitude system 4][1], after I feed it [this version of d3drm.dll][2] (sigh.)

I guess the issue is the developer used the wrong encoding settings for this message. By looking at it, one'd guess the message was encoded in some sort of multibyte encoding ( `ƒf` `ƒB` `ƒX` `ƒv` `ƒŒ` ...)
Where should I ask this -- SuperUser or StackOverflow?
It's an encoding problem (SO) for a Windows app (SU) that happens to be a game (Gaming) and I'm trying to solve it with Python (SO).
 
Uhm
I guess SO would be OK since there's actual code involved? But hrm..
 
I mean, logic says I should ask on Gaming, but they'll hardly be able to provide me a solution I fear.
 
The Stack Exchange Monolith needs a question box where you can submit something and it'll automatically post it to the most correct site...with magic. By which I mean jQuery.
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because the problem here is really about (I guess) WinXP days' i18n (sounds like SU stuff)
 
Yeah, hrm.
 
6:41 PM
but I think it's developers that had to mess with codepages and the such the most (sounds like SO stuff.)
So I guess I'll go ask on SO first. SO can migrate to SU. SU can migrate to Gaming. Gaming can tell me to go the fuck off.
 
I'll look into it too, for good measure. :P
 
Not to forget the issue may be I'm feeding it the wrong DLL! What would the right DLL be for this game? (GameDev???)
 
I would ask on SO ... I'm trying to contribute by coming in five minutes late :D
 
@radp I tried a version of that DLL that I yanked from my XP machine and it also gave me that message, heh.
Oh..and it runs fine on XP
Go figure.
 
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Q: How can I make sense of a badly encoded message?

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Go forth and close! :P
(if you so think.)
I kinda feel dirty for using 5 tags.
That means I really don't know where the issue is.
WTF 8 MINUTES AND NO ANSWER WTF!!! ! (hats tip to @PopularDemand)
 
7:15 PM
@radp I don't think that that string means anything.
I think the original string is passed to a conversion function which fails terribly. :P
 
@TimStone I don't know, Kabie's answer somehow gets close (but not close enough.)
 
Ah
 
It's not Shift-JIS though.
>>> wat.encode("UTF-8").decode("Shift-JIS")
UnicodeDecodeError: 'shift_jis' codec can't decode bytes in position 22-23: illegal multibyte sequence
If I fill in the illegal chars with spaces, Google Translate sez:
 
What about the bytes aside from that?
 
The code is not defined Disupureimo
...where Disupureimo is the bit that is truncated by bytes in position 22-23
sigh.
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However, by googling for ディスプレイモ I get hits for ディスプレイ, "display"
 
@drachenstern I see Robert tried to change the title of the proposal so it doesn't scream "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M A SO/PROGRAMMERS DUPE" but I'm not sure he managed to.
 
lol, yeah, I know
I have at least two of the top questions on the new setup
make that three of the highest voted bad questions on the proposal are mine :D
I'm abivalent on this one ... I would like to commit, but could I continue to contribute meaningfully or would I merely find meaning?
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Atheism

Proposed Q&A site for the skeptics of a higher power.

Currently in commitment.

 
@radp What are you trying to run the game on, by the way?
 
Wes
7:59 PM
Is it wrong to ask someone to cleanup their answer before you accept it? -- "your right of course. Can you edit your answer to include that information in a clearer way? and I'll accept it. – Wes 6 mins ago ""
 
I feel like there's probably a meta question about this..
But in any rate, SO strives to have the best answers, and ideally that includes presentation. So, I don't know if holding the accept hostage is good or bad, but encouraging someone to clean up their answer seems to be reasonable.
 
@Wes Not at all. Or give us a link and we'll clean it up for you
 
Wes
ooh thats appreciated
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Q: crossdomain.xml whats the point?

WesI'm having difficulty in figuring out why crossdomain.xml is a useful feature. It seems back to front to me. Why restrict flash (by default) from reading from publicly available services? What's the point to prevent DDOS attacks from people downloading malicious flash software. It doesn't seem...

Its okay he did it
 
Would someone explain this to me:
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A: Script to add "reply" links to comments

sirin ku can use ajax to submit the query and use comet to update the comment list.

 
I can't, because it made me scratch my head too. :P
 
8:11 PM
But but but, he says "ajax" and "comet" -- it must be right!
 
@balpha He didn't say the magic word though.
 
$.ajaxAndComet()?
 
Precisely :D
 
@TimStone Win-7
 
64-bit I assume?
 
8:14 PM
Nope.
Well, my CPU is a i686, but I'm sure I have a 32 bit Win7 installed.
 
Oh, really? That's just silly. :P
But hmm
 
Well, Ubuntu also chose to install itself at 32 bits, so...
Who am I to tell 'em otherwise?
 
Ubuntu also chose Unity. Need I say more?
 
@balpha Yeah, they should've totally gone jQuery instead.
$("gedit").run().switchTo()
 
Heh. Well, the game has dependencies on gdi32.dll and ddraw.dll, which are present but have been changed. I think the problem might be with one of them, but I'm not sure.
 
8:18 PM
Seriously, though. The latest revision of GNOME Shell looks a painful lot like Unity, as far as I could see...
@TimStone They may be the problem with the game, but the SO question is about that sequence of bytes :)
 
Well, sure. :P
I figured you cared more about the end result, though ;)
 
SO does that to people.
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For whatever reason I can't find that byte sequence in the executable, but I think the disassembler got offended at some point since it started showing ?? for some byes in the data section.
 
Yeah, I guess the message got encoded in the process of being displayed
which might've changed the byte numbers
 
Aye
 
8:21 PM
@radp I've used Gnome Shell since Fedora had it in the repo. +1 ever since.
 
@balpha I did try Gnome shell. Mutter completely ruined it for me.
I'd rather get more than 3 fps from my desktop, tyvm.
Being able to read text is also a bonus :)
(Unity noticed the lack of gfx acceleration and refused to launch altogether, which is a much saner default if you ask me.)
 
Never seen these problems, even on my 1.6GHz Netbook
 
It wasn't a CPU problem as much as a GPU problem.
I'd need the NVidia proprietary drivers, but they make life on multiple monitors miserable.
Also, I don't get full resolution on terminals.
Hence, I removed them.
I'm using gfx-disabled Nouveau now.
(An Arch Linux user, friend of mine, tried to compile gfx-enabled Nouveau drivers for my kernel from git repos and failed.)
 
Hmm okay. But seeing the gnome shell philosophy, I can very much agree with it. And (sooner or later), technical problems will be solved
 
I wished Ubuntu could push harder for its tray abolition plans -- the results are actually nice.
Ubuntu decided to go "the hell with you" with other distros since then :P
Ubuntu-only notifications, Ubuntu-only tray, coming up Ubuntu-only shell and Ubuntu-only graphic stack (Wayland)
 
8:31 PM
Does a group of people just follow JonSkeet around and upvote his answers immediately?
 
Yes, they latch on to his underbelly (falling off briefly to press the up vote button).
 
Great phrase in the gnome shell paper: "The System Status Area [should] not become a dumping ground or high-profile branding opportunity."
 
I forgot about the Ubuntu-only font and the Ubuntu-only Q&A site, obviously.
They're not really "only", but other main distros don't seem to want 'em.
 
But more seriously, he does answer in the most popular tags, and I think that enough people know who he is to not be suspicious of his answers, consequently resulting in them more readily giving out up votes.
 
@balpha Amen to that. Indeed, the Ubuntu messaging menu dumps everything messaging-related under the same menu ;)
 
8:34 PM
true @TimStone but they don't even try to comment on a problem or answer it
 
...everything that can be changed to support it, at any rate. That excludes Skype.
 
@drachenstern I don't fully follow, you mean as far as the up voters posting something themselves?
 
@TimStone yes, one would expect the bellyhangers to eventually not wait on him to edit a problem but to try answering themselves
 
My answer to that is that people are terribly lazy, and up voting is easier than answering, heh.
 
See guys
When people see Jon Skeet's avatar, they stop seeing 10101011110 and they start seeing blonde, brunette, redhead.
 
8:38 PM
Hahahah
 
@TimStone I think therefore, that @JonSkeet upvoted me +1 for my attempt, even though he smashed me flat with a comment showing that my elegant (read: recursive) solution was solved with a oneliner from the .NET toolchain
Yay for things you didn't know existed :|
 
@drachenstern This is why .NET scares me. :P
 
It's why I like to see what JonSkeet has to say ;)
Also, so much for trying to answer questions on a lazy Sunday afternoon in the hopes of garnering points ;)
 
I'm never comfortable doing anything under the premise that the language has already evolved to provide a much better way of doing things than my meager attempt, and in significantly less code, heh.
You need to refer to the Jon Skeet day schedule to plan your answer timing accordingly. :P
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138
A: Why Does Jon Skeet never sleep?

Jon SkeetOkay, just so everyone knows my rough routine, here's my timetable for weekdays. All times are UK time. 6am: get up, shave, get dressed etc (no SO presence) 6.15am: Check email/SO 6.30am: Walk to station (tiny SO presence via Android phone) 7am-8am: On train/bus to work (SO presence via 3G) 8am...

 
@TimStone Exactly why I don't mind providing a recursive example as a solution. Also, his one-liner only works on .NET 3.5 SP1 or later, mine works on C# en toto (and on c++ and on c and on vb and on java and and and)
 
8:43 PM
Hello
 
Yeah, makes sense.
'Ello @Chacha102
 
9:20 PM
0
Q: Need some help working with databases in C#

jeffOk, so, basically I have a database with two tables. Both of these tables are related and have the same key field. For example, both of them have rows of data corresponding to ISBN = 12345. but the two tables have differing data about that ISBN. So, I'm trying to figure out how to display d...

<.<
 
Heh :P
 
here's another heh for you:
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Q: Generate N random and unique numbers within a range

SkoderHey. What is an efficient way of generating N unique numbers within a given range using C#? For example, generate 6 unique numbers between 1 and 50. A lazy way would be to simply use Random.Next() in a loop and store that number in an array/list, then repeat and check if it already exists or not...

How about this one: ( I need help but I can't be arsed to give feedback!!! )
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Q: Can't get $(this) working in jQueryUI autocomplete

bartI'm trying to create a generic autocomplete script using jQueryUI. The autocomplete should work for every: <input type='text' class='autocomplete' id='foo'/> <input type='text' class='autocomplete' id='bar'/> ... Now I'm trying to access 'foo' or 'bar' in the source function using ...

oy, I guess I won't go earn points today then
 
@drachenstern That ended up being a vote to close before it was a heh ;)
 
doesn't show to close here (yet)
 
Oh, I just did it a minute ago.
As for that last question, ugh, that .each really is terrible.
 
9:32 PM
I know, but I think it's because he's trying to DRY, but he's doing it wrong
and until he responds to me, well...
 
Wes
9:55 PM
anyone able to help this guy? Maybe the question should be moved.
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A: Subversion not accessible by Hudson (svn:connection refused by server)

WesIt sounds like you need authentication to talk to subversion. If anonymous read isn't a problem for your company I suggest you set up your server to allow anonymous read requests. If it is a problem you can enter authentication details in hudson. If your using a modern version it should inform...

 
@Wes no I have no advice or assist
 
10:24 PM
@drachenstern somebody upvote this chap so I can send him to chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/5/the-so-tavern-general ?
he's a noob, so needs three more upvotes
@TimStone @Wes @CarsonMyers I know you three are lurking :p
danke schoen to the one of you that upvoted ;)
 
;)
 
10:58 PM
@radp Note to self: understand this answer. stackoverflow.com/questions/4298402/…
 
Wow, nice
 
Wes
@drachenstern sorry was looking after my toddler. Upvote who?
 
Wes
11:55 PM
@drachenstern Okay I think I've upvoted the right person
 
(Long-time lurker; first-time chatter) I wanted to ask about an area 51 proposal I created, and whether you all think it will be successful or not
 

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