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12:09 AM
oy
 
@rchern Oh, cool. Glad to hear it. :D There are some decisions I was a little wary of, not sure if you noticed anything that seemed off yet or not. :P
@YiJiang That is...ridiculous, heh.
 
it'd be better if it was 1 sec ago, 2 sec ago, 3 sec ago, 4 sec ago...
@TimStone such as?
 
@rchern When you're navigating, it will scroll to the top/bottom of the next monologue (by design), so you can see everything that someone said in succession. Sometimes (like @YiJiang up there... :P) the monologues are quite large, so that might not always be good.
I think it also jumps back to the bottom when you perform any of the actions on posts, which might not be appropriate for every action (like removing a post, for instance).
 
i need to play with it more
i pretty much just did a spot check with the merge hehe
 
I'm just glad I didn't mess that up somehow, heh.
 
12:24 AM
i also did it within GitExtensions. i think the commit history looks ok
not sure if i'm supposed to just be picking one of your commits than having them all show, but i think that's minor-ish
 
Yeah, I think I had a commit, then pulled your latest, then made a change, then merged the first commit to the latest, then merged the second change...or something. So I ended up with a few more commits than intended on my end, heh.
 
hehe i did toss a commit in there at ya (;
 
12:53 AM
@rchern What program do you use for diffs by the way?
The first time when I thought I had broken it I got tripped up by kidff, I was having trouble figuring out how to only select a particular section to choose from a given file, heh.
 
yeah, the default
i've only had 1 line throughout that's been a conflict
and it was changing 2px to 4px. not too complicated hehe
 
Ah yeah, heheh.
 
1:10 AM
the nice thing about having things separated in commands...less likely to have conflicts (:
particularly since most of the work is adding new, not modifying existing
 
Yeah, good point. I think that I had a conflict where the CSS is defined, because I tidied up the indentation, heh. :P
 
yeah i saw that (:
 
Wow, what a disappointing lack of selection on TV...meh.
 
baseball!
 
Baseball and I don't see eye to eye.
Mainly because it always goes over time and runs into other programming I was expecting to be on :P
 
1:15 AM
hmm
hockey?
 
Hockey would work, but none of the channels seem to be covering the games that are on right now. I guess I'll just go without the background noise for now, hahah.
 
ah, blues v blackhawks is on here. i'm switching between it and baseball
though hockey is winning over baseball currently
reluctantly switches back to work code
 
Heheh
It's all about baseball here right now, though I'm actually surprised that there aren't random follow-up shows on right now.
I guess I can sit here and lament over how badly the Cowboys are doing this season, heh.
 
1:40 AM
Oh yay, at least one person liked my mega answer.
 
 
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3:20 AM
The rain is so big now that rain is coming through the living room
All my paper is getting wet :(
I'm getting this error from the userscript
uncaught exception: Syntax error, unrecognized expression: ?
I think I know... it's a JSON parsing error
But what triggered it?
Hmmm... I've traced the error to a specific clip
"<div class=\"onebox ob-image\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http://i.imgur.com/y93fF.jpg\"><img src=\"http://i.imgur.com/y93fF.jpg\" class=\"user-image\"></a></div>"
 
3:50 AM
Unrecognized expression "?", heh.
 
It's not the JSON parsing
I'm inserting half a dozen try - catch blocks
 
What are you doing that triggers the error?
 
@TimStone A function, it builds up a li element from the information stored in localStorage
 
Ah, OK.
 
Grrrrr..... it was this line:
$(display).length
I was trying to check if the contents of display contains HTML code
Unfortunately the function choked on this input:
How do you paste a whole question ?
 
4:02 AM
Ah ha :P
 
It tried to interpret that as a selector
And died
Okay, I think I'll try a safer approach to discovering if the string contains HTML
 
Use regular expressions!
 
@YiJiang is parsing html with regex? naughty!
 
That's what I heard, from a reliable source even!
(Side note: sources which I completely make up are as reliable as any)
 
voices in your head, eh?
 
4:10 AM
Alright, I've replaced that line with this:
$('<div />').html(display).children().length
 
Nah, I haven't jumped off the deep end quite yet. ;)
What are you checking for HTML for?
 
@YiJiang, what are you working on?
 
@TimStone I bet the voices told him to say that…
 
@rchern Clippy!
 
Heheh :P
 
4:11 AM
@TimStone Any sort of HTML. I want to separate plain text from blocks that contains HTML
 
clippy? |:
 
@rchern You know, the clippings thingy
 
@YiJiang I see. I'm still totally confused, but that's a minor technicality.
 
i admit, i'm still confused on what your goal/use case is hehe #:
i could see wanting to open the url that has been oneboxed, but it doesn't seem like that's what you're doing
 
@TimStone It's alright, half the time I don't even know what I'm doing myself
 
4:16 AM
Ah, very good then.
 
1 min ago, by rchern
i could see wanting to open the url that has been oneboxed, but it doesn't seem like that's what you're doing
i'd implement this if i could decide what to name the command
 
@rchern /preview
 
/investigate!
 
/open |:
 
@TimStone Should include the exclamation mark in the command
 
4:18 AM
Of course, that's a given.
 
@rchern command: /open. Accepts one argument: |:
 
?
 
2 mins ago, by rchern
/open |:
 
oy?
ok, for oneboxes, is there a url you'd want opened that isn't the first <a> tag? and if it isn't a onebox, just someone listing urls, should it open all of them or?
 
@rchern Hmmm...? I thought you'd want to open up the URL in an iframe
Anyway, I think you can include a simple optional numerical argument
But it might be a little complex
Oneboxes almost always have a single URL that's important
 
 
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5:26 AM
Okay, I just commited the clipboard functionality
Now my branch is really different from @rchern's master
 
5:39 AM
Okay, merge complete. :D
 
6:20 AM
@rchern Alright, I've sent a pull request
 
6:35 AM
I keep waiting for the code to calm down so I can try adding stuff. Clearly that's not a good plan :)
 
A rarity
 
7:01 AM
Hmm
 
7:41 AM
I love iPlayer
 
2 messages moved to Sandbox
 
7:56 AM
@Balpha, if you are here and have a moment, would like to be responsible for setting a proposal off?
 
not sure balpha can do that
 
Project Management needs one off-topic vote"
Anyone can do it! I just set the German Language off, woohoo!
 
Oh, right, from Definition to Commitment.
 
I need to do some advertising for "Physics", though, like writing our SPS mailing list.
 
@MarkC - Just advertise this guy:
 
7:59 AM
I forgot again that questions need 20 votes to count, and that they need only 5 of each kind. So many people seem to not realize this (and other things), which made me wonder if there is a FAQ on the topic.
 
"Argue theory like religion" is his motto
 
Chem.E, OK.
Interdisciplinary Studies? MIS?!
:P
PhD in business
 
Wrong guy
 
Oh, it seemed like he just got a haircut
and plastic surgo, I guess
I can't believe no one has given Project Mgmt the kick-off vote yet
Guys, this is like way cooler than a badge
 
Some of those vids are good (outside of Dr. Singh's)
 
8:18 AM
@Aiden why do physicists "tick you off"? I dropped in SO chat to drop a link to that 99.9% defined proposal.
 
@MichaelMrozek Well, if you want to, you can quickly pull mine, make the modifications, and be back before @rchern is finished with whatever she's doing, then she's the one that'll be doing the merging
 
@YiJiang :D I'll wait. I was going to look into adding in-chat help, which I think TimStone already did, so I'm going to look at his stuff first
 
@Aiden Never mind, I read a little bit of your exchange. It seems you are grossly generalizing from a few unhappy cases.
 
@MarkC I don't quite understand what you want from me
 
Oh hi, I just was letting everyone know that there is a proposal to send off
One vote is all it takes
Now I will demonstrate the power of this fully operational democracy!
I finally remembered the right line, it should be Now witness the power...
 
 
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9:49 AM
@Jin news.slashdot.org/story/10/10/23/0240240/… bring back full pixelation please :D
in other news where's the Whoosh! moderation reason!
darn.
 
 
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11:16 AM
@MarkC - Grossly generalizing, yes.
 
 
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12:16 PM
Note to self: NEVER GIVE ANY KIND OF HELP WHATSOEVER TO ANYONE I KNOW.
 
12:55 PM
@TimStone It's a little strange that s doesn't do starring. Any particular reason why?
 
@YiJiang No, not really. :P
 
1:55 PM
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Q: how to call javascript/jQuery when javascript is disabled in mozilla/ie ?

Hitesh Prajapatihow to call javascript/jQuery when javascript is disabled in mozilla/ie ?

Reaction: ...........
 
I wish it was that simple
At least on Chrome, you can definitely have some sort of JS execution even if you blacklist the domain.
 
@radp Really? How does that happen?
 
@YiJiang I'd try to reproduce it right now but opening Settings segfaults Chromium today.
 
@radp .... ... are the new features in dev really worth that sort of stability?
 
latin.it/versione/13355 is either using JS or rather evil CSS.
@YiJiang It's not dev, it's nightlies. Usually, they're quite stable.
Try selecting the stuff below the google ad
hrm, although...
how did you inject jQuery again?
 
2:19 PM
@radp Eh... with GM?
 
Thanks, I found a bookmarklet for that
javascript:(function(){if(!window.jQuery){var s=document.createElement('script');s.src='http://jquery.com/src/jquery-latest.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(s);var z=setInterval(function(){if(window.jQuery){$j=jQuery.noConflict();alert('jQuery loaded!');window.clearInterval(z)}},100)}if(!window.$){window.$=function(x){return document.getElementById(x)}}})();
 
@radp Hmmm... should change it to use the Google CDN
 
 
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3:40 PM
Hai.
 
 
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4:52 PM
@balpha Funny the banner says "intermittently available". Wouldn't that mean that it would be down most of the time, and only up sometimes?
 
Heh :P
 
to be precise, it says may be intermittently available, so it is not impossible that it's up sometimes
 
Hahah, the new migration map on the blog is great. :P
 
5:20 PM
SO doesn't have enough poor-quality questions.
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Q: Idea for new service for Stackoverflow

FaikusI have an idea for how Stackoverflow could offer an additional, complementary service. For many small problems we face every day in programming, writing a question on SO is a bit too heavyweight: you have to invest a lot of effort into writing a well-researched and formulated question that descr...

 
Without even opening the question, I can already tell it's going to be a gem..."writing a question on SO is a bit too heavyweight:"
 
The proposal actually sounds a lot like Aardvark - short, simple questions for those who'd like to answer questions in the topic
 
This is...much longer than I anticipated.
@YiJiang Hm, true.
 
I want to edit it, but I'm not sure I'm up for a wall of text right now.
 
Ripple makes me think of icecream..
 
5:24 PM
Stack Overflow: Chain Letter Edition
 
@TimStone icecream.stackexchange.com! icecream.stackexchange.com!
 
Hah :P
 
Actually I guess that should be closed and merged into frozendesserts.stackexchange.com.
 
@PopularDemand soundsthatmakeyouthinkoffood.stackexchange.com!
 
Woo, I have a new favorite badge.
[java] (bronze (shush, it's all I've got))
 
5:28 PM
Hey, I don't have any tag badges yet, so congrats.
 
Yeah, yeah. :P
 
@TimStone Bah, you've only been 'round for four months, and you have double my rep. And an answer with a score of 141.
 
Well, "answer", but I'll take the compliment, heh. ;)
 
@TimStone Can't be right.. you should have gotten that tag badge straight away. What was the conditions again?
 
5:31 PM
Oh, the question became community wiki automatically at some point.
 
@TimStone Awww... poor you :P
 
I did hit the rep cap that day, but I didn't get rep for most of the upvotes that it got, heh.
 
Hmm... the faq page for badges still have not been updated for the 100 bronze badge
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Q: How do "badges" work?

SCdF What are badges? How does a user get badges? How do I get the tag specialist badges? Why isn't the "XYZ" badge working? Return to FAQ index

 
Argh, I left out tag badges!
How did I miss that?
Whoops, that's not my question.
Fixing now....
 
We need to upvote the M-Z answer so that it's under the A-M answer!
Stupid question of the day time, everyone!
 
5:40 PM
Already deleted. :P
 
That was quick - it only just got closed
 
Damn! So fast... ah well...
 
Ah - spam flags
 
Hm, can you earn a tag badge for a CW answer to a non-CW question?
The badges page doesn't say you can't.
 
Hmmm... the "Stupid Question of the Day" column needs less stupid question, so that we can still see it before it gets deleted
 
5:44 PM
@PopularDemand I don't think so. Only non-cw votes count towards the badges
 
@PopularDemand Definitely not, else @TimStone there would have gotten at least one by now
 
@YiJiang If you mean for the 141 answer, that question started CW, and that is covered by the badges page.
 
Supposedly CW content is owned by the community user too, although that doesn't appear to be the case with my answer to that question according to the data dump.
Well, the question was forced CW after too many answers, but yeah.
 
@ChrisF Not all badges, at least. I've gotten Nice Question and Nice Answer for posts that started out CW.
 
@PopularDemand I think @waffles announced that with the introduction of the bronze badge tag badges are now revoked automatically when the conditions do not meet anymore
bobince, Bavaria, Germany
89.8k 9 64 142
 
5:46 PM
@YiJiang Gasp!
 
Check if he still have the parsing badge ^
 
@PopularDemand - sorry I meant the tag badges. Nice/Good/Great Question/Answer badges aren't affected by CW
 
Well, bobince there doesn't have the gold parsing badge anymore
 
0
Q: How to add an Facebook Like button that does not show how poorly your site is liked?

BugAlertI've added an Facebook Like button, but as my site is still very small I believe it is not a good idea to show that bubble-box telling everyone that this page only has 3 likes. Then, it's better visitors don't see how bad it performs so they're not blended and can decide on their own if it's cool...

 
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A: What are tag badges? How do they work?

wafflesThe new rules are: Tag badges that are no longer applicable are revoked. A tag must appear on a minimum of 100 questions to be considered for tag badges. Bronze 100 total score (sum of upvotes - sum of downvotes) only non-wiki / non-deleted answers count minimum of 20 answers on the tag to...

Here, found it
 
5:52 PM
@YiJiang thanks, I was having trouble finding that one.
 
If they are revoked you could end up getting the badge and losing it a couple of times before finally getting it for good if you write a controversial answer ;)
Edging ever so slowly to 30K on SO, though my real rep is some 200 points lower than the displayed figure so it will be a while before I "really" hit it.
 
@TimStone Heh.
 
@PopularDemand I was trying to figure out what he meant by "so they're not blended"...because that sounds painful.
 
I don't think anyone's ever said yes to this in this room, but does anyone here use Wicket?
 
I see what he was going for point-wise, but not sure what he confused for "blended", heh.
 
6:02 PM
@TimStone If enough of us go "Like" his page -- what a ridiculous verb -- maybe he'll delete the question.
 
@PopularDemand Want to post that as an answer? :P
 
@YiJiang It's a stupid comment at best.
@balpha Man, that letter A is pixellated.
 
@balpha What is this horrible, horrible font?
 
This would be unpleasant for those of us who like to have usernames that contain spaces.
 
6:07 PM
I was talking about the content, not the presentation :) @PopularDemand @TimStone
 
Like, I dunno, "Lord Torgamus," or "Yi Jiang," or "Tim Stone," or "Popular Demand."
 
@balpha I know, but my eyes have been assaulted and are recovering before I can continue reading ;)
 
@PopularDemand well, SO has single-input login already. Sort of.
 
What 'A'?
 
@YiJiang The logo at top right.
 
6:08 PM
@PopularDemand those aren't truly your usernames though. but yes, there are some silly places that allow spaces in usernames
 
@balpha I'm trying to think of a response to that, but I can't even remember what the SO login page looks like.
 
@PopularDemand Looks perfectly fine to me... ?
 
@PopularDemand As I've said before, "you mean you can log out of SO?"
 
@YiJiang Hover over top of it?
 
The other issue in my mind is that this is a solution looking for a problem. What's so bad about having separate fields? The <kbd>Tab</kbd> key is right there.
 
6:10 PM
@PopularDemand I assume he's referring to the single Open ID field, but that's kind of a different scenario.
Alright, that's it
opens up Firebug and changes the font
 
lol
 
@TimStone Seems like an abuse of power. But a pretty good one.
 
@PopularDemand one of the comment brings up mobile devices that don't have a tab key
 
It's possible that Firefox was just being stupid, but every few letters the font size seemed to change.
 
I don't know about you, but it really does look perfectly fine here. What's wrong with Minion?
 
6:12 PM
Eelco Hillenius is a registered SO user!
 
looks fine for me as well @YiJiang -- don't listen to the Opera users
ducks
 
@YiJiang Minion? I'm seeing the fallback Times New Roman.
Stupid state of fonts in the modern world.
 
greasemonkey #fail? @YiJiang
 
@balpha I reloaded the page and typed that in a little too hastily
Also, there are 4 "Eelco"s on SO. Who knew that was a common name?
 
6:15 PM
who is Eelco?
 
Hm, where's that "famous SO users" page?
@rchern One of the first people to be involved with Wicket.
Helped write the book. (Literally; I'm referring to Wicket in Action.)
 
i see
 
In computer programming, operator overloading (less commonly known as operator ad-hoc polymorphism) is a specific case of polymorphism in which some or all of operators like +, =, or have different implementations depending on the types of their arguments. Sometimes the overloadings are defined by the language; sometimes the programmer can implement support for new types. Operator overloading is claimed to be useful because it allows the developer to program using notation "closer to the target domain" and allows user-defined types a similar level of syntactic support as types built into ...
So given that the 2nd link is the first result on Google for "operator overloading" how much research do we think the poster of the question did?
 
I think the "Thank you" is not copy/paste from the assignment
3
 
@balpha So, what then, [partial-possible-possible-homework]?
 
6:24 PM
@PopularDemand [45%-certain-homework]
 
Somebody's answered!
Actually I don't know why I'm surprised. I see answers arrive after questions have been marked as possible duplicates and off-topic. People just don't read
 
It can't be homework. It's not Sunday yet. We all know that people don't start homework until Sunday.
 
@ChrisF You know, some people would rather interact with other people even for the smallest questions
 
@ChrisF I will often times provide a quick answer to a question that is a duplicate
 
@jjnguy It's Sunday somewhere.
 
6:27 PM
Is there a [Google-question[ tag?
 
That answer is immediately helpful, the link to the dupe is not.
@ChrisF I suppose.
 
@jjnguy I'm not talking about posting an answer and then the question gets marked as duplicat. I'm talking about a question with 3 or 4 close votes getting answers
 
@ChrisF It's 2am in Sunday here
 
@JJn Yeah, hit-and-run "duplicate" bugs me if it's not done properly, and to me it is usually not
 
closes @MarkC as a duplicate
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6:29 PM
I dunno. Lots of times I'll throw in a quick answer marked a cwiki
 
Hey!
 
Answers to questions that should be migrated are OK - it's a valid question, just on the wrong site.
 
On the road again...
 
I've seen a few times where the dupe got better answers than the original, so I wouldn't judge @jjnguy too hard. Just a few slaps on the wrist.
 
:O! 2 pull requests?
 
6:32 PM
@TheUnhandledException Uh oh...don't get lost again
@rchern We're busy bees.
 
apparently!
 
@TimStone LOL. Taking bigger roads this time! :-D
 
To be fair, I updated all of two lines :P
@TheUnhandledException Ah, good stuff. :D
 
@balpha I am once again testing chat over a mobile 3g connection...
 
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A: Should I learn Swing before learning JavaFx ?

taniaYou can learn JavaFX very easily with help of online tutorials available online even if you do not swing.

 
6:34 PM
@rchern I've done the hard work of merging for you already!
 
@TheUnhandledException I've used chat via GPRS during my camping vacation. Worked fine :)
 
@balpha I used it on the way down so SC, worked fine for me too
:-D
 
@ChrisF I even added an example!
in Python.
 
This odd message just popped up on the Firebug console for whatever reason
secure.gravatar.com : server does not support RFC 5746, see CVE-2009-3555
 
I should've tried Haskell or Eiffel rather but...
 
6:37 PM
@Balpha Luxury. We had to build our own crank-powered generator, and then connect to a modem by voice over a rotten telephone line.
 
@YiJiang what do you mean?
 
@YiJiang They have a bug in their SSL implementation that allows for MITM attacks.
 
@rchern I've pulled and merged your's and Tim's changes into my commit already
 
I think..
Yeah, that's the message for that issue.
I have it on one of our servers because the Ubuntu OpenSSL package maintainers refuse to apply the change that resolves it.
 
That's one of the first Google results that came through
 
6:57 PM
Hi all :]
is there anyone who has experience with the Google Contacts API + OAuth + Javascript/JSON?
 
Psst Watch out what you say around here, you might get closed as a duplicate
 
@MarkC Marked as duplicate sock puppet, scheduled for deletion
 
:P
 
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