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4:15 AM
is it possible to undelete my chat room ?
 
 
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9:48 AM
@balpha
 
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A: flagging a chatroom which has no technical discussion (2)

ManishEarth wants more wafflesI've noticed that many users, especially Indian ones, use the chatrooms as a place to socialize (nothing related to the site/topic, just IMing), as well as to garner votes. Many of the users in these rooms aren't even active on SO/SE, they just chat Also, these rooms are usually in Romanized Hi...

 
but i use it for other purpose
in the morning i wrote an email to team@stackover.com you might read it
 
10:44 AM
have you read my email @balpha ?
 
no
team@ goes to the community team
 
so it is not possible for you to read it or get the details about it ?
 
wait, you want me to undelete your room, but you dig up other rooms for deletion?
 
if you read my email, you might get my point ( i have reason for undeleting it )
 
hi @ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles, thanks a lot for your help
 
10:54 AM
Oops
@balpha You're welcome :) Though I think I need a meta post on definitive rules and reasons for deleting the room (these guys don't listen, and then they make the room again)
 
@balpha i have other rooms for deletion too
 
(Btw, I have a link to a gdoc where I'm keeping track of my cleanup here:chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3705/indian-chat-moderation)
 
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles I've frozen it (so people still see what happened), will delete in a bit
 
@balpha Yeah, that's the best thing to do
Thanks :)
Who should I contact if I want these freezes/deletions to be done? Boltclock was harassed after he did some for me, so he won't do it again
 
just ping me
 
11:03 AM
kk
Thanks :)
 
One of the room where I was co-owner got *Frozen* [today](http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/4478083#4478083),
I dont know the reason..everyone was nicely discussing SO,SO Chat,Some programming issue there..
If there is any problem and anyone can tell me then please do tell me..as i am also owner in another room where I can take care of it.
 
in WhiteBoard on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 hours ago, by Manishearth
Everyone: This room shall probably be deleted soon. Chat rooms are for discussing SO-related stuff, and technical discussion. I see zero SO related discussion, and a very tiny bit of technical discussion. Many of you seem to come to SO just for chatting, this is not proper usage of the chat platform. Please do not use SO chat for unrelated chatting.
there's your reason
 
@balpha Btw, what's your view on rooms like the C++ lounge where there is a lot of OT discussion, but it comprises of good community members? (IMO that's OK since it's a community bonding thing)
@MKJParekh Thanks for being proactive about this :)
 
@balpha It was today only and because of the people were discussing it, regularly the topic is just related to Technical..means even once member goes offtopic it can be frozen..okay will take care of this thing..
 
@MKJParekh I went back into the transcript for a few days (till the beginning of the month)
Very few technical discussion
Many of the chatters are repeat offenders, they're just here to chat
 
11:07 AM
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles because its not much popular room :(
 
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles OT discussion is not an issue as long as it's not the main purpose of the room. the c++ lounge topics usually are about SO and programming
 
@balpha kk
@MKJParekh But looots of unrelated chatting
Basically the room should help SO in some way--which it didn't
 
Today only it got popular..people who came today only was part of that discussion..the regualr users were not there...and just today it got frozen..
 
@MKJParekh That was because I reported it. I had looked through the transcript
The discussion today was a result of my "probably will be deleted" message
 
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles You are very strong user I guess..you reported and action took so speedy..
 
11:10 AM
But rest assures, I look through the recent transcript of the rooms before doing anything
 
are other kind of moderator ? means you are not in the chaos @balpha ??
 
Okay..there are many room...but dont report Casual Chat room as its topic is casual chat..but people there come to take advice of Lalit,Adil and sometime mine too for Android.
 
@Lucifer Balpha is an SE dev, he created chat
@MKJParekh Let me sift through the room first
Doesn't matter if the topic is casual chat
 
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles sure sure..but I hope you will see all the rooms not only few targeted room.. because bug can also be found in already developed code not only in new changes
 
@MKJParekh I'm looking at as many as I can
mainly the Indian rooms--since this problem is only really present there
And has gone unchecked since the mods can't understand Hindi
 
11:15 AM
Yeh, Okay..that's cool..you are not mod then also doing this hardwork
Please dont use Indian word for negative sentance,Please Avoid it to use that even if you are indian..As I got tempared with that..
 
@MKJParekh I'm not using it negatively
 
Please say Local rooms
that's also fine i think
 
I'm just saying that I've seen the problem only in Indian chat rooms
@MKJParekh Why "local"?
 
That's because you have seen as many as you can till now..there are other rooms left I guess..you will check it when you get time and you will surely found that its not "only" over there. I wish i could help..
as Hindi is not international language so you can say it Local.
 
@MKJParekh That makes no sense.
@MKJParekh I've seen quite a lot. Not all, but a lot.
 
11:18 AM
Okay. So you can be right..that thats the problem in only indian room..as you have seen a lot
 
can 10K+ users see deleted chat room @balpha ?
 
It's probably elsewhere as well
Dunno
@Lucifer Nope
But majority in Indian chat rooms
 
@Lucifer yes
 
yep
 
11:20 AM
ha ha ha..
 
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles Yep. I can see them.
 
Now i dont believe you that its "only" over there
 
@balpha Now that is some useful information for it :) , but you didnt reply my previous question
 
Hmm, I had 10k on chat.SE before I got the diamond, can't recall seeing deleted rooms
Probably didn't notice
 
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles TBH - I thought everyone could see them - but they were grey and locked for new submissions.
 
11:21 AM
@MKJParekh I have seen it only in Indian rooms. But, since it's probably there in other rooms, then I said "majority"
Anyway, it's not that big an issue about Indians/not Indians
 
Ohk..My bad english ..sorry again to take you on wrong meaning
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles I always hope its not.
@Lucifer How are you friend?
 
does the silence means you do not want to answer it @balpha ?
 
@ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles If you have time..want to know your view on one thing..
 
@Lucifer the only question I didn't answer was answered by @ManishEarthwantsmorewaffles
 
11:25 AM
If a room owner post like "will open this room for a specific time zone so other user from other countries are sleeping probably" does this sounds like racism to you? @Manish
 
@balpha I know you are a SE Dev and you created chat , but my ques is diff,
 
@MKJParekh Reno? I think he had a legitimate intention behind saying that. I dunno
But out of context, yes
 
You forget about the user or the legitimate behind it..think as a fresh user who is reading that post..and say..then I am sure you will answer only YES
 
@MKJParekh I am just Koool :)
 
@MKJParekh > out of context, yes
@MKJParekh But if you know what sparked that comment, it may not be racist. And I think that's the case here
 
11:31 AM
okay so you people (means reno nil you) all know about each other that what he-she types is for which context..only I dont know the context..
Anyways There is a rule in SO that "Rude behaviour will not be tolerated" still that comment got discussed..
Okay..its okay..I dont want discussion As i had a lot on it..but just as seen your hardwork for chat rooms so pointed..but you already knew the context
@Manish Will try to find the context in transcript..on which one user got licence to comment like that..
 
11:49 AM
hey hey :D
ok. I'll attempt to explain it once again.
Manjot, Robinhood etc become active during a certian period. Our room is closed due to them. So my suggestion was to keep the room open for some time. With a view that in the future the Android room will always be open.
Now. You want to turn this around and say that I'd be blocking the whole sub continent then you're only trolling.
Which is sad.
My goal is to keep the room open, and you're not helping.
These rooms should be frozen for similar reasons :

 Smart Developers' Lab

Try to stick to English, Post your Query elaborate as best as ...
 
If you have problem with certain user, then flag their posts. Trying to comment like that..will always be taken understood as you talking about a continent as timezone is not for single person.
 
@MKJParekh The same thing applies to you. Flag posts you don't like. But if a majority of users don't find something offensive in context, then it's probably not offensive.
 
OMG, You online here too.. Thanks Mate...I just learnt it from you and said to Reno..So I will be also following it..Man in that room also I said that yes i will flag if i found anything..Thank you again.
 
@MKJParekh You probably don't realise how disruptive one person can be to a room. Ninja Turtle - under the name TDS almost got the iPhone/iPad room locked. For some reason the Android rooms get a lot more trolling than that.
 
@MKJParekh Excuse me, you were the one who said "don't use the word 'Indian' in a negative sentence" an hour ago. To an Indian. Have you ever considered that it may just be you that wants to understand things to be offensive?
 
12:02 PM
@balpha @Abizern hello sir
i have one simple question regarding this all stuff, may i ask here ?
 
Yeh You are absolutely can be right saying that, That's why I have not taken it for granted that the thing was wrong..So Have tried to get answer from Reno also in another room about that and also From Manish..but really still searching for that context..once i will find that context in which it was said..I will also be taking it in positive way..But till then..That's offensive to me.
 
@reno hmm, makes sense :) Again, those rooms are in my must-look-at-first list, but thanks for trying to help :)
@mkj I don't know the context, I only saw snatches of that conversation. But to me, it looked like Reno had said it in good faith
 
@balpha the above post was for you as answer to your question..I forgot to mention your name
And as Reno has posted above regarding the answer to his timezone comment,
its still don't look like *okay* for me to take his post was for good cause..tell me if that reason what he said is look like *okay* to you to make such comment on its basis
 
12:18 PM
@MKJParekh It is OK, he was a bit angry at two known trolls
 
If i am angry on 2 Indian then I can comment on all Indian community.!!? will that be fine.!! I dont think so..
Who know Manjot is not an indian and just kept its location as India in SO
@Manish
 
12:35 PM
@programmer_1 is it regarding chat ?
 
yup @Lucifer
 
then go a head
 
@mkj he did not comment on the whole community. You misinterpreted it. He said that he didn't want those two users on his chat, and would close it during their chat timings.
 
The comment was like "will open this chat room in particualr timezone so the nyancats will be sleeping"
I trid reading many time still i interpret it the same what I did previous..was for particular..timezone and region
 
No, by the nyancats he meant the two trolls
It's not his fault that other people in that region are online at the same time
Collateral damage, one could say
 
12:49 PM
Still, Can't take those kind of comments, If someone whould have post it in my room would have deleted it and flagged it for sure..and will do the same in future too
Whatever happens in the world, I can't take any negative comment on my nation..whoever is the commentor or whereever he is
Sorry, can't change it.
 
-__-
You know we are not here to appease you
Why don't you go out, take a walk in the park and curse at me?
It might help, I don't mind.
 
If you are not here to appease me, Then why are you giving suggestion..
Dont need it, will take it from someone nice.
 
Sorry to say this, you have an ego problem.
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It's best if you deal with it offline.
That's all I guess.
 
Alright, can we stop this now? This discussion isn't helpful at all anymore, nor is it going anywhere.
 
Hmm..Yeh its not helpful to discuss, I agree
But tell me why someone can come anytime and tell me like "you have an ego problem." do he have given access to comment on anyone as he wish @balpha
 
1:00 PM
Counter-question: What gives you the right to accuse people of racisim as you wish?
 
I have not accused anyone, I just had doubt and wanted clearification..I never said they/he did 100% I doubted only.
Now my answer please.
 
My answer is: please let's get past this.
 
you asked me a question, I gave straight answer...but my Question remain unanswered? Is this room for everyone or for some previledged user only?
You a moderator saying to get past it..that means if i flag his comment "ego problem" then it will be disputed for sure..but that's not done man..
I am sure if he would have complained against me then i would have got banned again.
 
Sorry, but "I know you will ban me if someone complains about me" is nothing but trolling. I will not have this discussion any longer. Have a good day.
 
Okay, To end this,Forcefully I have to say : "okay..let's get past this.."
Good day to you too.
 

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