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12:42 AM
&$#@& UTC. It's still yesterday.. So the repcap ate up 100 or so of my rep. Normally I wouldn't mind, but I'm just 24 rep away from 2k edit-and-wreak-havoc privileges. Garr!
And no free waffles yet :/
 
Lix
hey all
@man - good luck trying to get in an edit here on meta :P there are some edit sharks that are always around :P
 
12:58 AM
@lix I wanted to see if offering a bounty resets the repcap (downvotes,after hitting repcap always get recompensated). Unfortunately, it's today by UTC now.
Thanks for the tip, though..
I'm used to Physics.SE where, aside from me, there are ~2 people who regularly edit posts as they come along.
 
@Manishearth: No, bounties aren't ever included in rep cap calculations.
 
So no shark-iness there
@anim kk
 
Lix
yea - that would be a gaping hole...
 
Yep. Hit cap. Offer bounty. Hit cap. Offer bounty.
 
Oh yay, another bronze badge.
 
Lix
1:01 AM
i haven't won a single bounty yet :(
 
On MSO, most bounties are to be picked up by the team
 
When did the "view more" link under your accounts section start linking to Stack Exchange?
 
Since they're just attention-bounties
Three days ago
I have a userscripy to get the accounts tab back if you're interested
But the tab still links to SE.com
 
Not important, really. It just displayed the same thing on every site, so it makes sense. I was just curious when they changed it.
 
Lix
This cracked me up
 
1:05 AM
Why do some people unfollow the Area51 proposal they created? I don't understand this...
Why was this edit approved? Seriously? I was going to improve and reject it but two people already voted to approve before I finished...
 
Because it added nice inline code formatting, I presume
 
It wasn't helpful at all and it actually made the text less readable
 
Not that it helps, but I agree with your assessment.
 
Yup, much better.
 
1:21 AM
@ani because once you create a 51 proposal, you have no control over its deletion. Unless you unfollow.
 
Why create a proposal just to unfollow and delete it? o.o
Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data.
 
Closed and first delete vote.
How did you find it?
 
Ran across it in the review panel.
It was flagged as a low quality post.
 
Understandably.
 
2:04 AM
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Q: Add a line for number of reviews actioned in review panel?

animusonRather than making users pull up the calculator and type in all the numbers to see how many they've actioned, would it be possible to just get an extra line below all the stats that indicate how many total you've actioned? Maybe separate them with a horizontal bar, having the details above and th...

 
3:03 AM
You've earned the "feature-request" badge. See your profile.
 
4:02 AM
1
Q: Suggest closing this proposal (but how?)

WikisProposal: Wikis and Wikipedia Sadly, it seems that this proposal is never going to get the momentum to succeed. So (as its proposer) I think it should now be closed. How should I do this? None of the current close reasons appear to apply: duplicate of proposal duplicate of site poorly defined...

There's your example
See Robert's answer below
 
4:21 AM
I was talking about Emacs, where the person created it and almost immediately unfollowed it...
 
@animuson Strange..
@animuson That's completely different then..
I've seen other 0-follow posts
 
Like I could understand what you're saying, perhaps they reconsidered. But he literally unfollowed it like immediately after creating it...
 
 
4 hours later…
8:51 AM
Probably doesn't understand how 51 works
Or he screwed up... I like nudging fledgling proposals with questions(and maybe a follow), but I don't know much abt emacs, so I can't help there :/
 
 
1 hour later…
10:16 AM
@animuson (forgot to ping)
 
@Manish Keep a look at your rep, 2K are due any moment now ;)
And FYI, /media is where the removable media like CDs etc. are mounted, so it's a strange idea indeed to save permanent stuff there.
Ah, edit privileges arrived, congrats.
 
@DanielFischer What? How?
Oh, the troll question
 
Yep.
Nice answer, btw.
 
Yaaay!
Goes off, edits ten questions, gets banned
Thanks!
 
Well, I meant, I find it nice, not yet +10
 
10:21 AM
Note: I'm quoting your comment about /media
(linking it)
 
/media is used to store the mount points for removable media. It's not usually used to store files
 
Aah.
Thanks!
Just figured out that MSO doesn't have much editing to do
 
afternoon.
 
@Manishearth there's a query which lists posts require editing :P
 
10:29 AM
I made an ironic first edit
A minor one on a post about minor edits
It saves everyone a click, though
@Sathya ???
 
90
Q: What are the best ways to find answers that should be flagged or edited?

ire_and_cursesI've been experimenting with the flagging system for the last couple of days. I have learned a few strategies, but I feel that I'm making little difference to the mountain of accumulated rubbish. Having easily run out of my 48 flags within a few minutes tonight, I am now helpless for another 19 ...

 
@Sathya That's on SO. On MSO, there's nothing much to do... Here, everyone's a troll anyway :P
@Sathya Aside from grammar and formatting, we can't improve much, can we? On the other hand, on Physics.SE, I regularly improve math, grammar, formatting, and/or clarify the question
 
@Manishearth heh, true.
@Manishearth well you have 3 different people coming in here: 1. People who do code dumps w/o having a clue. 2. People who complain about why x happened without searching. 3. People who suggest features/ post bug reports. Since 1. gets cleared fairly swiftly, 2 & 3 generally write well or in case of 2. the rants are removed fairly soon
 
@Sathya About 2: Searching is actually pretty hard--I posted a "way to track closevotes" question today, and it was closed as a dupe--but searching "track close vote" doesn't turn up anything, and "close vote" has even more noise
@Sathya For all that, 3k is better ;)
All I can do is flag(though I have a partially-working script that flags as off-topic and migrates to SO
 
@Manishearth true, but you're close to 3k anyway.
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Q: Can Stack Exchange be more specific, polite, and respectful?

Saurav SenguptaOne of my questions - What are the factors affecting a new programming language? - was closed twice. I had modified the question more than once following the directions of the person who originally closed it. However, I then myself tried flagging it for moderator attention because although the qu...

so, who wants to write a line-by-line rebuttal?
 
10:45 AM
Maybe later
now I'm tinkering :)
 
11:03 AM
Alright! Made a script that, in one click:
- fills comment box with a "Belongs on SO, not meta"-type message
- navigates flag menu for you
- saves comment
- does not submit flag (you have to do it yourself, lazy)
anyone interested?
 
@Manishearth how's it different from:
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Q: AutoReviewComments - Pro-forma comments for SE

Benjol No more re-typing the same comments over and over! This script adds a little 'auto' link next to all comments boxes. When you click the link, you see a popup with 6 configurable auto-comments, which you can easily click to insert. This script was inspired by answers to this question on meta....

 
Already use that
 
I see, auto navigation
 
Currently, process for flagging "belongs to SO"
 
Lix
hi all
 
11:06 AM
click "add comment"
click "auto"
 
anything for helping out the lazy one in me.
 
click my MSO-->SO proforma
scroll and submit
then navigate thru flags
this=easy
Me=lazy as well
Uhh, you don't need it, you can vote to close
 
@Manishearth ah true, but if I do the flag, it gets an auto VTC
 
(though I could tinker it to work with VTC as well)
but that would take some work
 
for me, it's press "M" -> press "C" -> press "2" -> press "Enter"
 
11:07 AM
ah yes, the keyb shortcuts.
must remember to install that
 
Must remember to install as well
I'm new to userscripts, anyone know why this doesn't work?:
// ==UserScript==
// @name Offtopic Button
// @version 1.0
// @author Manish Goregaokar (http://stackapps.com/users/10098/manishearth)
// @description Vote-to-off-topic button w00t
// @license GNU GPL v3 (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html)
// @include http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/*

// ==/UserScript==
THe script works, but the metadata isn't imported
Probably something stupid I've done elsewhere
Decides he doesn't care about the title
Arms himself with flagging script
Shoots himself in the foot
 
11:27 AM
lol
 
Even better, Wikipedia-like bots
I have to restrict my retagging to ~5 at a time, otherwise our main page gets flooded
Poor guy
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Q: Can Stack Exchange be more specific, polite, and respectful?

Saurav SenguptaOne of my questions - What are the factors affecting a new programming language? - was closed twice. I had modified the question more than once following the directions of the person who originally closed it. However, I then myself tried flagging it for moderator attention because although the qu...

Post ONE post against SE and you get 5 answers within 5 minutes
Same thing if you do something condescending the hyphen-site
 
11:43 AM
hi
 
@Manishearth well he's got plenty of food for thought, for now.
@Neysor hi!
 
@Neysor Hi!
@Sathya Poor guy :P
@Sathya you may want to join this area51 proposal ... This one as well
 
@Manishearth sry but this is nothing which interests me. Also i belive there are too many sites online now... No one can handle this jungle :)
 
@Neysor The message was to @Sathya
 
@Manishearth huh, interesting. follows
 
11:47 AM
burp
 
@Neysor But yes, it's a jungle at first ;)
 
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Indian Languages

Proposed Q&A site for students, teachers, and linguists wanting to discuss the finer points of the indian languages like Hindi , Marathi, Bengali, Kannada, Oiya, Bodo, Assamese, Dogri etc.

Currently in definition.

 
@Neysor I personally like roaming the jungle and visiting random sites. Makes me 0_O at times, though.\
@Sathya Thanks!
 
@Manishearth oh sry, wrong highlight. didn't look at the @
 
Dunno about this? Besides I know only 3 :P
 
11:48 AM
@Manishearth i do not like this hughe amount of to special sites... i think some topics could be more general to fit more peoples need
 
@Sathya Me=2, but very badly (not born here)
 
plus there's linguistics:
 
And this as well:
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/36197/sanskrit-pali-and-other-indo-aryan-languages
 
@Manishearth where were you born?
 
@Sathya Born+brought up in Boston. Moved to India few years back (parents wanted to be with their parents)
@Sathya I think linguistics is more about structure, less about the languages themselves
not sure though
 
11:52 AM
there's this too:
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Hinduism

Proposed Q&A site for followers and believers of Hinduism. People who are interested in learning about the oldest religion are also welcome. Q&A's regarding the Spiritual, Paranormal, Metaphysical, Philosophical, Esoteric and other aspects of Hinduism will be addressed.

Currently in commitment.

could use some merging & cleanup
 
Yeah, I'm trying to make sure that culture doesn't overlap with Hinduism
 
(hinduism + Indology ie)
 
aah
There was a discuss.51 thread somewhere
on that.. not sure
 
hmm
I try to stay away from A51 :P
 
11:54 AM
SU + MSU + SO + MSO + WA + Gaming is far too much for me :P
 
Usually I ask some example questions on a random page and then leave
 
SU & MSU itself takes a chunk of my time..
 
The only place I can be good at (Physics.SE) is sleepy
:P
 
what part of Mumbai you in?
 
South
 
11:57 AM
area/suburb?
 
Gamdevi
Mumbai south $\neq$ suburb ;)
Oh btw you may want to ask some example questions for the culture proposal
(I ran out--a sngle user can only ask 5)
oh I have one left ;)
gtg
 
@Manishearth lol. see ya.
 
Lix
hehe
 
@Manishearth like that :)
 
Lix
that last one is fake :P
 
BOTH ARE REAL WAKE UP SHEEPLE CAN"T YOU SEE THE BADGES??!
;P
 
Lix
How about a badge for convincing people that a fake badge exsits :P
 
On it
what should it be called?
 
Lix
LIAR!
and its a gold tag badge :P hehe
 
12:18 PM
One sec
 
Lix
hehe - yea - you got some rep from me for that one already haha
There could be a meta-monster badge for spending too much time on meta...
 
That's me
user image
3
 
Lix
hehe
 
Want some jQuery to do that?
$(".badge,.badge-tag").attr("contenteditable",true).attr("href","").attr("name","")
$("td").not(".badge-cell").attr("contenteditable",true)
$(".badge-earned-check, .item-multiplier").css("visibility","hidden")
$(".badge .badge").css("border","1px solid #000")
Edit at will
Added the two other badges to my post, couldn't let them go to waste meta.stackoverflow.com/a/128527/178438
@lix whoops, made a typo in the LIAR badge: i.stack.imgur.com/PKH3Y.png
 
Lix
hehehe woah - didnt notice that :P
 
12:31 PM
YOu may want to unstar the first one then
(the first LIAR badge)
cos I can't edit it
Don't you think 7 upvotes in 10 minutes is slightly crazy for a post done using jQuery and Paint?
I'll never quite get the MSO community :/
 
Lix
its hit and miss
shog made a lottery reference in the last podcast :P
said maybe you shouldnt really be playing - but if you do - and you win - good for you :P hehe
 
12:50 PM
Lol
Hit repcap again (i think)
If bounties are not counted
Ok, repcap hit. Free waffle time!
 
Lix
I only see 180 on ur profile...
 
1:06 PM
@Lix -50 bounty
 
Lix
only*
ahh
 
-2
Q: CDT Eclipse: Undefined Variables even the .h file included [tag:stackoverflow][tag:question]

user1319056I'm newbie on using CDT and Eclipse. I want to make an STM32F10XX (Cortex-M3) aplication. I have a problem when I'm compiling the code, it always show undefined variables error. I used Eclipse setting as shown on Setting up Eclipse and Code Sourcery lite for STM32 Discovery Development. But I ...

WTF?
 
Lix
well... to be fair - they seem to have read some portion of the faq if they know the [tag:tagname] syntax :P
 
@Lix Yeah, then totally abuse it for, well, goodness knows what he's trying to do here
 
Wait cool new place to test my script
Too bad im on mobile
 
Lix
1:09 PM
I know... eclipse never sounded to strange :P
 
Dont close it peoples!
 
Lix
@mani - EYES ON THE ROAD!!!
 
crashes
(im at home, just laptop off)
 
Lix
"don't script and drive"
 
status-not-enough-jquery
Damn it got closed
then the flagging option goes away
and my script goes in an infinite loop
 
Lix
1:13 PM
not for me - I can still flag closed posts...
 
I can as well
Not off topic
 
Lix
ah - right...
 
ANd my script auto-navigates the menu to doesnt belong-->offtopic
as well as auto-posting the comment
if the doesnt belong option is missing, it breaks
never really thought of adding error handling
 
Lix
I usually like to post something custom on meta... usually
but I'm still not sure if that's any help...
 
Since the only user is me, didn't feel the need to make it idiot-proof
Unfortunately, my assumption (me$\neq$idiot) is false
 
Lix
1:16 PM
if the OP doesn't stay online and the post gets deleted... I'm not sure if they can stil see my comment...
 
:P
@Lix It'll get closed, not deleted, right?
 
Lix
right right - and I understand that a post can only be deleted after being closed for a certain period of time...
but I think mod's can kill a post faster than that...
I wonder if my comments are actually getting to the OP... :/
I have an answer that was deleted and I can see the comments on that... but probably not a question...
 
Lix
hehe - hillarious :P I love jquery :P The tags moved over my mouse and I could still click them :P
 
> This is a grate site!
 
Lix
1:32 PM
hehe
 
Oh, very punny
 
@Lix Yep
@Lix Btw, your -1 has no effect on me.. I have superiour shielding!!! Waffle repcap!!!
;-)
 
Lix
fine then :P It works better with my comment :P
 
@Lix I added one that does it to all tags
looks like a bunch of fish when done on Physics
And gives you a seizure if done on meta
Gives a whole new meaning to "tag cloud" :p
 
Lix
 
1:41 PM
status-AAAAAH-MY_EYES
@YiJiangsProble_ Aah, you already saw that
 
 
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2:55 PM
FINALLY GOT TO TEST MY FLAG SCRIPT PROPERLY!!!
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Q: user login by user type in php mysql

user1307751include'connection.php'; /* this function is to sanitze values recevied from form.*/ function clean ($str) { $str = @trim($str); if(get_magic_quotes_gpc()) { $str = stripslashes($str); } return mysql_real_escape_string($str); } $username = clean ( $_POST['email']); $password = clean (md...

 
@DanielFischer from my part, it is 1am local time, tired and early started to drink. I wish happy hour start couple hours early
 
Awesome, in 2 seconds it posted a comment and navigated the flag menu
also,
 
Hey guys
 
Lix
hi @mat
 
Are you an SE employee?
 
Lix
3:07 PM
nope - we just hang out here :P Sometimes there are employees here though...
 
hm ok
 
Lix
you can see some in the list of users top right
maybe we can help though
whats up?
 
I am working on a program for a cs class I am in
The online Udacity class that teachs how to build a search engine
 
Lix
go on...
 
The program I am working on crawls various stack overflow questions and extracts code snippets from within the <code></code>
I am then plan to make a sort of code gallery from this code
 
Lix
3:11 PM
ok... so are you wondering about the legality of exacting the code?
 
So I will include an attribute
But I seem to be getting denied after a certain number of requests to SE
"We're sorry...

There are an unusual number of requests coming from this IP address.

To protect our users, we can't process any more requests from this IP address right now.

We'll restore access as quickly as possible, so try again soon.

If you believe you have reached this page in error, contact us."
 
It's better if you use their API
 
Lix
oh - yea. I would assume that there is some limit
 
Lix
@man - I would imagine that there is some limit on that too
 
3:12 PM
@Manishearth wrong version :)
 
@balpha Aah, the dev rears his head when an old version of his code is posted ;-)
 
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Q: Request Throttling Limits

Kevin MontroseWhat are permissible requests "speeds?" The API will cut you off if you make more than 30 requests over 5 seconds to any single endpoint. We consider this a breach of the API interface contract, so you won't get a nice error back. The exact manner in which this constraint is enforced can (and ...

 
@Matt @balpha's a dev working for SO, you can ask him if he doesn't run away ;-)
 
Lix
I'll hold him down... quickly.... NOW!
 
3:14 PM
lol
 
Lix
hahaha
 
Is there a way I can extract the code the way I am without being denied?
 
go slower :)
 
Thats sort of the whole point of the class... to crawl html
 
or, if up-to-date data is not that important (which I can imagine to be the case in an academic setup), use the data dump
 
3:21 PM
Ah, I think these data dumps will be just what I need, thanks!:)
 
@balpha Where are the official XML dumps?
MSO search has me going in circles
 
bittorrent
 
OK, that's official
 
3:23 PM
@balpha Well, if you can get to it, anyway...
 
Alright, I saw that in an answer by a low-rep guy so I sort of assumed "unoffical". Also it was a torrent
 
@Manishearth re "official":
Jeff Atwood on September 19, 2011

While we will always continue to produce Stack Exchange creative commons data dumps, we are moving to a quarterly schedule for all future dumps. We won’t be blogging each and every one, as it gets a bit monotonous. Please subscribe to our Clear Bits creator feed to be automatically notified when new Stack Exchange creative commons data dumps become available!

The latest version of the Stack Exchange Creative Commons Data Dump is now available. This reflects all public data in …

Stack Overflow Server Fault Super User Stack Apps all public non-beta Stack Exchange Sites all corresponding meta sites …

@TimStone I blame you for only seeding it from one machine
 
Aah...
THanks!
 
I'll make a note to install BitTorrent on my work computer and seed from there as well. :P
Ah, I guess he was able to get to it after all :)
(Assuming it's not just coincidence that there's now a peer from New Jersey, that is)
Hmm, which Data Explorer thing to work on first. Decisions, decisions...
 
3:39 PM
@Lix I got bored, so I modified @balpha's script to something you could use: github.com/Manishearth/Manish-Codes/raw/master/StackExchange/…
It does the same thing as
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Q: "Reply" links on comments

balpha Screenshot About This user script adds a little "reply" link to each comment. Clicking this link will fetch the rest of the comments, if some of them were hidden show the "add comment" text box pre-populate the text box with "@" and the name of the user you're replying to (removing sp...

EXCEPT, it only takes three characters
 
@Manishearth can haz teh codez? plz to email. kthxbai.
 
:P
 
@Lix now you have an automated script that does the job of being lazy for you!!
 
4:09 PM
Ok, enough ironic scripts. I'm leaving.. sleeps
 
Lix
4:24 PM
haha thanks @man :P Gonna give it a try...
never seen this before!
 
4:56 PM
@Lix What question was that on?
 
 
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Lix
6:10 PM
@tim - It was on a self deleted post - not sure if you can still see those -
posted the answer and it was immediately converted into a commenty
 
Yeah, you had a small bit of a text and an internal link.
 
Yeah, I can.
And that's why.
 
Lix
Yes - I understand why :) I just never saw that feature before.
 
I'm the moderator that converted it :) Looks like they spruced up the explanations
 
Lix
Oh?? It was converted? That is...well... ninja like :P
 
6:14 PM
Wait, really? I was under the impression it was auto-converted because there's no answer on the question...Hm
 
Lix
The moment I posted it it was converted - I didn't even have a chance to see it as a post - after I submitted it appeared as a comment
It felt at least like an automatic action...
 
it is automatic
 
Yeah, per this change, but I was confused by his comment.
 
Lix
Ah - ok - thank you for that clarification.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:30 PM
hi all
 
 
1 hour later…
8:35 PM
Does this question belong on codereview? stackoverflow.com/questions/10058023/python-classes-basic
I suppose it would be classified as a refactoring question
 
8:48 PM
(@jadarnel27)
 
9:11 PM
I seem to be incapable of locating your careers profile, @TimStone.
 
Didn't I link to it? :o
 
Oh, maybe.
I was probably at work when we talked last.
 
Ah
 
Or not last, but whenever that conversation was.
You know what I mean.
 
9:13 PM
Yep, you did link to it.
Thanks.
 
Aye
 
C# In Depth?
How... Stack Overflow of you.
 
Manning has it on sale quite often, so I bought it at some point and it's quite good.
 
Hmm. How do you image search for a comic-style flash without getting results that are pictures of The Flash?
 
Comic-style flash?
 
9:19 PM
A shape with pointy bits coming out of it in every direction. Kind of like my avatar, but not necessarily circular or regular in any way.
Ah, "comic action bubble" has some results.
 
Hah, I was just about to suggest exactly that.
 
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