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2:42 AM
On the reputation recalc page, the amount shown does not match my reputation. Is the amount on that page my "real" reputation? If I hit recalc, does that amount show up on my profile?
 
3:31 AM
Test
 
Pong
1 minute 14 second round trip.
 
@ThinkingStiff Yep, that' your actual rep on the /reputation page. And you're correct, hitting recalc will sync your profile up with that value.
 
4:00 AM
@jadarnel27 Excellent. Thanks.
 
4:13 AM
@mootinator I was ensuring I had internet on my home wifi that's been out for the past two days (a wide outage here for some reason, something core failed apparently at AT&T) and was on iOS :D
 
@ThinkingStiff No problem =)
 
 
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10:36 AM
I'm looking to understand a joke.
Can anybody tell me who this character is?
He looks familiar, but I can't place him. Futurama?
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm Looks like Futurama. It's Captain... eh, something
Captain Zapp Brannigan is a fictional character in the animated sitcom Futurama. He is voiced by Billy West, but was originally intended to be voiced by Phil Hartman, with West taking over the role after Hartman's death. Brannigan is a 25-Star General in the Democratic Order of Planets, and captain of his flagship; the Nimbus. He is first introduced in the fourth episode of the series, "Love's Labours Lost in Space", in which he plays a major role. In the episode, Brannigan becomes enamoured with Leela, whom he attempts to woo for the remainder of the series. Brannigan is portrayed as a r...
 
11:38 AM
Hello o/
 
 
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1:21 PM
RAWR!
 
RAWRs back
Guess who has crossed 10k reputation on Stack Overflow? A hint, it is not Jon Skeet.
 
Ah, very nice! Congratulations :)
 
Thanks. :)
Reno and I decided to team up now and earn our next 10k in the JavaScript tag.
 
Nice!
 
2:06 PM
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm Not knowing who Zapp Brannigan is? That's a paddlin'.
 
@OctavianDamiean Jon Skeet has passed several 10K quantities on Stack Overflow. 39 of them in fact, as of this writing. So, him too. :P
Oh, and congrats.
 
Thanks. :D
 
So I guess you do not, technically have to have the little diamond next to your name to use moderator-only tags (as long as you are a StackExchange exmployee, that is =) )
status-I-did-not-know-that
 
@jadarnel27 You need to trash the apostrophe for that to work.
goes to design an icon for a client's app
 
User.IsEmployee trumps User.IsAdministrator, I guess. :P
 
2:20 PM
sees @PekkasOrganicRepFarm enter and keeps browser window open
 
@Moshe Thanks, I was wondering why that didn't work =P
@TimStone Haha, indeed!
 
@BenBrocka @YiJiangsProble ahh, thanks! Then the joke makes sense. (It was about the captain of the Costa Concordia.)
@Moshe I'm honoured, but I have to run straight away! I need to fix a fence while there's still daylight. :)
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm Apparently you need to fix that sentence first? :P
If this were Terraria or Minecraft, you'd be able to craft it, but then it wouldn't have Jobsian perfection.
 
@Moshe done :)
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm Did you have a wild unicorn break it?
 
2:24 PM
references several pop culture item-thingadongdongs at once
 
@Moshe Jobsian perfection wasn't anything I was aiming at. I'm glad when it stands.
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm Heh
 
@OctavianDamiean quite possibly! The metereologists called it a storm, but what do they know? Plus it happened at night with no witnesses, so it could have been anything.
 
Yea that is the typical symptom for a wild unicorn.
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm It could have been the Gentleman from California, needing some wood to try and shoehorn SOPA into law.
 
2:26 PM
@OctavianDamiean yeah plus as pointed out here, where I live now happens to be in the south German Unicorn flight corridor. We are just north of the black forest
 
@Moshe hahahahaha
@Moshe don't they have giant redwoods in California though?
 
Yup. If you apply logic to all of your problems it is not half as mystical as it seems. nods
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm Heh, logic. In the House? Logix? You mean the thing that nearly got SOPA and PIPA passed?
 
@Moshe Heh. But it's not completely dead yet, is it? Although I'm pretty sure that yesterday's events doomed it.
 
2:29 PM
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm Not sure, it's close, but not closed. Read that 30 some-odd reps changed their position, but that's not necessarily enough. 41 need to kill it.
(-o-) Ok, conversation, come back! Working Responsibly, I choose you!
 
> The Associated Press has updated its social media guidelines for the third time in about a year to show its writers how to use Twitter's features without implying personal opinion or approval.
 
@Moshe Yeah. Der Schoß ist fruchtbar noch, aus dem dies kroch. (translation assignment :)
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm pulls out dictionary
 
One pointer: kroch = past something of kriechen. ("something" because I don't know the first thing about grammar. In any language.)
 
In German it is the Präteritum.
 
2:33 PM
@OctavianDamiean (guesses) past "tense"?
 
The preterite (abbreviated or , in American English also preterit; aorist, simple past, past indicative, or past historic) is the grammatical tense expressing actions that took place or were completed in the past. In general, it is the perfective aspect of the past tense (not to be confused with the similarly named perfect aspect) and may thus be more precisely called the perfective past. But, in English, which does not have an inflection for perfective aspect, the term is used for the simple-past tense. Preterites in Romance languages Latin In Latin, the perfect tense most commonly...
 
yup, past tense
(still translating second half of phrase)
 
Pekka, that's one weird sentence
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm - Okay, looks like an idiom.
 
It sure is. I'm still trying to figure out what it is supposed to mean and I'm a native German speaker. :D
 
2:36 PM
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm, @OctavianDamiean. Here's my rough guess: The womb is still fruitful, therefore it's slow.
Unless my contextual use of noch is wrong, which probably is, since I guessed and didn't look it up.
takes out pen and papier
 
Well noch can mean still but it can also mean nor.
 
Yea, but that makes less sense...
 
Indeed.
 
It could be talking about an older person, though.
 
The entire sentence doesn't make sense to me.
 
2:40 PM
lol
 
It's weird, but valid German I think.
Although pretty old.
 
There's Google, and Wikipedia (thankfully back today with Javascript) But I'm not cheating on this one.
 
@Moshe almost
The womb is still fruitful (the "still" is the noch)
 
Hang on...
I did write still
 
It's admittedly a nasty thing to throw at a learner.
 
2:41 PM
5 mins ago, by Moshe
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm, @OctavianDamiean. Here's my rough guess: The womb is still fruitful, therefore it's slow.
 
Right you did, sorry
 
It is a nasty thing to throw at anyone. :D
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@OctavianDamiean haha
 
The second part "aus dem dies kroch" is related to the womb
 
There are nastier. I enjoy it.
Wait, I think I got it.
 
2:42 PM
Another way to write this would be "Der Schoß aus dem dies kroch ist fruchtbar noch"
 
Relating to procrastination.
Because a person has time "the womb is still fruitful" it moves slowly, because there's plenty of time to do things later.
 
Nope - the sentence is poetic and old German, I only now realize how ugly it is to parse. Hold on, I'll put it in modern German
 
Eh, ok.
 
Der Schoß, aus dem dies kroch, ist noch fruchtbar.
 
Which is redundant.
 
2:44 PM
Well, I like my meaning. :-) Especially since it's poetic, I'm taking poetic license.
 
We should ask Popular Demand.
18 hours ago, by jrg
PopularDemand is right.
Since he's always right!
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm - I'm not sure what the difference is between the three sentence forms.
 
I'm sure I should be ashamed of myself because I don't instantly recognize who wrote that.
 
@Moshe none, just different wording meant to make translating easier. The original one is very poetic
@OctavianDamiean I don't know either
 
2:46 PM
So what does it mean?
(Please tell me before I go ahead google it. I'm rather enjoying learning by challenging myself to listen to instruction.)
 
@Moshe The womb from which this crawled out of is still fertile.
 
Meaning. "There's more of where that came from"?
 
Yeah. In the context of SOPA, the lobby interests behind it are still active, and won't give up that quickly.
 
Ah, lol
But how does that translate again?
 
Oh that is nothing new.
 
2:47 PM
I got the whole second part wrong.
 
@Moshe yeah, but don't worry - as said, I realized only after posting it how nasty it is.
 
I've even posted a comment there.
 
@PekkasOrganicRepFarm I'm not worried. Don't worry about it being too nasty. I'm interested to know how it translates to that.
 
@Moshe right. The second part was "aus dem dies kroch", correct?
 
2:48 PM
yup
 
@Moshe Literally: from whence this crawled
Or crept, even nicer
 
Berlitz translates kriecher as "creep" or "crawl"
So, yea.
 
@Octavian it's Berthold Brecht, apparently: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_aufhaltsame_Aufstieg_des_Arturo_Ui
@Moshe yup.
 
Oh MY GOD A CREEPER!!! RUUUUNN!!!
 
Lot's of articles in that sentence. Which is good for me to learn from because my laziness is such that all of the gender and tense variations send my laziness alarms ringing.
@OctavianDamiean (And that's what they sound like. :P)
Creepers are also pretty nasty things to throw at anyone.
 
2:52 PM
nods
Damn things spawned in my cellar and flooded it ...
 
The upstairs neighbors construction broke a pipe, flooded our kitchen.
 
I have an electric drill now. Our caretaker was nice enough to lend me his.
(Off to fix fence and to preemptively drill dozens of holes into the walls in case I want to install a rack or something)
@Moshe ugh, that stinks.
 
Oh, new FB status, I think: SOPA ist tot, aber der Schoß ist fruchtbar noch, aus dem dies kroch
 
@Moshe Thank god it wasn't a damn creeper.
 
@Moshe hahahaha, nice!!
Later guys!
 
2:55 PM
Tshüß!
[SOPA ist tot, aber] der Schoß ist fruchtbar noch, aus dem dies kroch.
- Bertolt Brecht
 
Bertolt was kinda weird.
 
(I make it a policy not to talk about people. Sorry!)
 
Does this mean we can all talk about @Moshe without fear of retaliation?
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@jadarnel27 Technically, if talking about you is considered the only form of retaliation. ;-)
Starring you and putting you in the spotlight aught to teach you! :P
 
Well...I did not think that through completely. I'm going to make a terrible criminal mastermind.
 
3:05 PM
@jadarnel27 You were planning on being a criminal mastermind?
makes note in pad
 
Oh. Um. Nope.
whistles non-chalantly
 
<suspicious voice>erherm... I see...</suspicious voice>
Ok. takes out poke ball
(-o-) < Productivity
Productivity, I choose you.
Productivity, use Tabclose attack. Now!
Finish em off with a Windowclose!
 
Alright. Uh, I gotta ... steps back slowly ... catch a plane or something. runs
 
MWAAA HA HA HA HA!
 
3:52 PM
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A: Try-catch speeding up my code?

Jon SkeetWell, the way you're timing things looks pretty nasty to me. It would be much more sensible to just time the whole loop: var stopwatch = Stopwatch.StartNew(); for (int i = 1; i < 100000000; i++) { Fibo(100); } stopwatch.Stop(); Console.WriteLine("Elapsed time: {0}", stopwatch.Elapsed); ...

Someone has stumped the Skeet (as of this writing)
Weird =)
 
4:20 PM
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Q: C++ vs Java? Simple loop shows frustrating results

thesaintThe following is a simple loop in C++. The timer is using QueryPerformanceCounter() and is quite accurate. I found Java to take 60% of the time C++ takes and this can't be?! What am I doing wrong here? Even strict aliasing (which is not included in the code here) doesn't help at all... long long...

Is that really not constructive?
I could understand if it would be too localized maybe but not constructive?
 
Has it been flagged as such?
 
Nothing that long can possibly be constructive. What human could read and understand that whole question?
@jadarnel27 Four current NC close votes.
 
It's also rather rant-y throughout.
@PopularDemand Thanks! I don't have those powers (yet)
 
Well I'd rant myself if C++ would be slower than Java.
 
@jadarnel27 "throughout"? Did you skim, or are you not human? Don't make me give you a CAPTCHA!
 
4:23 PM
@PopularDemand Do you feel strongly about discussing such things?
;-)
 
Thank you for humoring my joke which, at two chat messages long, went on for about two chat messages too long.
 
LOL. No problem.
 
Should there be some sort of celebration when Joh Skeet hits 400,000? Or should we save it for 500k?
 
Does anyone else think it's odd that the Skeet answer I linked above does not answer the question (and he admits to not knowing the answer) and it has 13 upvotes?
 
@jadarnel27 That is the Jon Skeet effect. Didn't you know?
Did the squirrels get into the Stack Exchange server room again or is it just a squirrel at my place?
 
4:39 PM
It's just you.
Anyway, I looked about a month ago and Jon Skeet hadn't had a single day under the rep cap since mid June 2010.
 
5:06 PM
Man. casperOne is getting a lot of flak on Meta for his moderator actions lately.
 
@jadarnel27 I've noticed that, too. (And I'm sure so has the moderator community in general.)
 
@OctavianDamiean Well. Some flak. Here, here, here and here (although those last two are directly related to one another).
 
Some of it gets deleted, too, like a comment thread I had with him.
 
I feel like I saw something else too. I don't know. Just an observation, though; not (much) judgement.
Ah, yes. That too, @PopularDemand
 
5:19 PM
Being a moderator is no easy task on any remotely professional medium. (Moderators on SO have sometimes referred to themselves as "the janitorial staff" or other such metaphors.) I wonder if the open community structure of Stack Exchange actually makes it even more difficult.
Kind of a "who watches the watchers?" thing. On SO, everyone is watching the watchers.
 
I remember seeing multiple "I was the mod who did the thing you're complaining about. Let me explain, and realize that I'm a newbie mod" answers from him shortly after the election, too.
 
@David I imagine it is tough for just that reason. I certinaly would not want the responsibility.
 
@PopularDemand That's true, he was elected in the recent round. Maybe these are just growing pains. It is a lot of responsibility. (as @jadarnel27 points out)
(I wasn't terribly active on Meta during the previous elections approximately a year ago, and haven't gone back through to see if it's a common pattern shortly thereafter.)
 
Mar 4 '11 at 19:46, by Popular Demand
I'm telling you, recall election. Eight mods enter, six mods leave!
 
Reelections?
 
5:27 PM
A recall election (also called a recall referendum or representative recall) is a procedure by which voters can remove an elected official from office through a direct vote before his or her term has ended. Recalls, which are initiated when sufficient voters sign a petition, have a history dating back to the ancient Athenian democracy and is a feature of several contemporary constitutions. Canada The Province of British Columbia enacted representative recall in 1995. In that province, voters in a provincial riding can petition to have a sitting representative removed from office, even a P...
 
I'd be concerned with letting slip the dogs of recalls, though. We wouldn't want to be understaffed.
Just to note, as Shog9 pointed out in a comment on the recent such Meta question, the community at large voted to re-open the closed question. So the system worked. All in all, this recent one stands out as an example of: "The mod did not act unilaterally; Mods are human and are not infallible; The community can always self-correct (or, more specifically, collectively disagree with a decision and vote to repeal it);"
 
If you click the link, you'll see that I posted "recall election" as an answer to last year's "Suggest an April Fool's joke" question.
 
Ah, so indeed :)
 
5:45 PM
Come to think of it, where is the ninth Shog, anyways? I feel like I haven't run across him much lately.
 
We were wondering that yesterday. I decided he went on vacation, but I have nothing to back that up.
 
It would be an interesting (albeit a little creepy) stack app to track a user's actions and behavior in order to answer such a question. "Where is he?" "Oh, he's mucking around on Area 51."
 
@TimStone I had the same thought, but he was last seen on MSO less than an hour ago.
 
Maybe he's confused about what vacation means.
WwF wants me to brag on Twitter, that seems a little unnecessary.
 
6:02 PM
I have been banned from asking meta questions presumably for getting down voted so much on a question where everyone was explaining the lack of importance of down votes.
Is this classed as an error
?
 
It's definitely classified as ironic. Does the ban say how temporary it is?
 
No, although I think there are a few outstanding feature requests related to changing the behaviour on Meta.
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Q: Question banning should work differently on Meta

TomasI just wanted to report a problem with Data Explorer and realized I was banned from asking questions on meta. Probably because I asked 3 questions with a score <= -10. Reading through the reasons for this: to prevent help vampires users who can't be bothered to form sentences users who don'...

 
So I just wait?
 
Oh wow. That has always bugged me @TimStone.
 
is a bit disappointed by the level of maturity certain people show
 
6:09 PM
In the link it sent it describes them lifting the ban by getting my up votes back up, as the subject question explains, I am a newish contributor to meta so this seem quite unlikely.
 
@TimStone I also asked a question about that once, before I saw what you just oneboxed.
 
Actually my second question which got nailed (-6) was suggestions given at the request of the OP.
 
@TimStone How else would you spread the virus? I mean, the word?
 
Good point. Also, good game. I seem to have gotten extremely lucky, as I believe that's my highest scoring game yet.
 
You earned it. It's actually nice, I haven't played with anyone who stops to think and targets multiplier spaces in a long time.
 
7:16 PM
I'm torn as to whether or not I should delete this answer: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/119654/148400
I voted to close the question as a duplicate, so the seasoned SO-er in me says that the answer is superfluous. But there's just so much meta going on there.
 
3k, huh? Hold on a sec while I serially downvote you... I mean, um, congratulations.
 
If you had sock puppet accounts then you could serially downvote parallelly.
 
7:44 PM
That'd be concurrent down-voting.
Totally something for Scala.
 
8:06 PM
ISerialDownvoteFactory - concurrency not supported
 
8:42 PM
Email from a customer: "The 1px border around the box is supposed to be #d3ccde (NOT some random grey tone)" - I had it set to #cccccc. Who even notices something like that?
RAWR!
::Sigh:: Ok. I'm calm now.
 
8:59 PM
@jadarnel27 Admittedly, I would.
 
@jadarnel27 The kind of person who lists a color as specific as #D3CCDE in a requirement.
 
Haha, true @PopularDemand. Unfortunately, they just sent screenshots of their design mockups for the webpage. I tried to get all the details by extracting the RGB values from the screenshots, but apparently I missed the mark in some spots =P
@TimStone You are far more perceptive than I ;-) I even swapped back and forth between the two and could only barely tell the difference.
 
There's some one-pixel positioning differences in various SE sites that apparently only I notice, heh.
 
And in Tim's dreams, sometimes there are... half-pixel differences.
 
@PopularDemand We should probably require that they be that detailed in their specs if they are going to harass us for a month after launch =) I think I'll bring that up!
 
9:09 PM
@PopularDemand Those...are nightmares.
 
(I also felt like the "NOT some random grey tone" comment was a little unnecessary)
 
Yeah, that was a little rude
 
@jadarnel27 On the other hand, #CCCCCC? Obviously the result of a random number generator.
 
@PopularDemand =) Obviously.
 
9:38 PM
Has anyone been having/reporting chat problems lately? IT's bugging out for me a lot, I'm on Chrome's Beta channel
 
Hmm, seems alright for me....
 
Sometimes I can't scroll up, sometimes the "speech bubbles" pane twitches
I've been getting it off and on for two days, never had problems before
@jadarnel27 To be fair #D3CCDE is like a grey-lavender, not a grey grey
 
@BenBrocka Hmm, twitches how?
Like the page randomly scrolls up?
 
Twitchy twitcha twitch. It shifts up and down a couple pixels repeatedly, usually until a new post is posted
I think our JS has conspired to try and give me a seizure
 
@BenBrocka I'm definitely not cut out to be a graphic design person. I just couldn't imagine any of their user-base noticing the difference =) (It's customer service people for a big hotel chain)
 
9:45 PM
Hmm, interesting. I've had it "jump" up a little sometimes, not entirely sure why.
 
UX chat was going the scroll thing just now; you scroll and it immediately scrolls back down
 
I'm on Chrome dev at the moment.
 
@jadarnel27 It depends on where the color is/colors around it, but those are reasonably different colors
@TimStone beta or alpha?
 
@BenBrocka It's the color of the 1px border around that login-box
=)
 
That's #D2CCD8! That's not D3CCDE at all! (either that or it's the compression)
But yeah I can certainly see why they asked for lavender instead of grey there
 
9:52 PM
Yeah, I guess I agree with you there. I was just rather frsutrated with the customer's attitude more than anything else =)
I'm not used to dealing with these big company types.
@BenBrocka Probably the compression =) #divLoginPM { border: solid 1px #d3ccde; }
 
Yeah, I noticed it has compression artifacts (use PNG :P)
@jadarnel27 The tone is definitely problematic, I would probably say "Oh, you forgot to change the color here!"
 
@BenBrocka That would have been nice! The e-mail also included this gem: "*Attached the screen grab of this so you can see the brokeness! *"
 
They probably just don't realize their tone is rude
...that's what I prefer to think anyway
 
Hmmm, perhaps. I'm being a bit negative at the moment.
 
10:12 PM
They also sound like they assumed it was a bug, not that you forgot the color, based on "brokeness"
 
10:26 PM
@BenBrocka You mean this?
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Q: Chat's having a seizure while scrolling

Yi Jiang's Proble_A video is worth a thousand words: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1722364/out.ogv [20mb .ogv file] This occurs on Firefox 5, usually after a few messages were posted in my absence. I'm using autoscroll here, but any form of scrolling would result in the chat attempting bravely to stick to the bottom. H...

Chat's having a seizure while scrolling

Jan 3 at 9:08, 45 minutes total – 57 messages, 3 users, 1 star

Bookmarked Jan 3 at 19:00 by Chris

Jan 3 at 9:54, by balpha
I'm pretty sure this is a Firefox bug, but I'll see if I can find a workaround
 
That;s part of it, it's not Firefox, I'm in Chrome
 
It sounds like it may be a Chrome bug, as well?
 
I was wondering if it's a web standards issue, particularly javascript related
 
It's still marked as , though
 
Arg, videos posted on dropbox. Screenr please. I almost recorded it today, I'll make sure to do it next time I see it
It's more than just that issue though
 
10:49 PM
@Chris Love your avatar by the way
 

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