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12:45 AM
shakes fist at Xcode 4 and broken localization files.
sighs with relief as Xcode 3 install finishes...
\O/
It might not crash this time!!!
 
1:00 AM
heh
 
@GeorgeMarian - Xcode 4 was ok, until my app was semi-successful. Then it blew everything up.
 
Ain't that always the way? ;)
 
Try to add localizations for certain markets? Broken. Update a build? Broken. It was a pain.
@GeorgeMarian Well, Xcode 4 did look a lot nicer.
Time to relearn some keyboard shortcuts.
Oh, no more "Schemes". (Sets of codesigning profiles.) Xcode 3 had it simpler. \0/
Ok, I'm out for a bit. Thanks for listening.
 
@Moshe Heh. That always drives me nuts. Many times I find myself trying to use VIM shortcuts in other editors.
@Moshe see ya
 
1:27 AM
yawns
 
@TimStone slacker
 
Heh :P
 
 
1 hour later…
2:36 AM
Man, so many broken pipes. I'm starting to feel like Mario.
rimshot
 
Zing. ;)
Ah, system administration, how I loathe thee.
 
heh
I feel the same way, usually.
There is the occasional, "Ah, cool. It works!"
 
Yeah, unfortunately that tends to come after the "I will locate your rack in the data center and destroy you, server" phase.
4
 
I think I've earned myself a Portal 2 break.
 
2:44 AM
hehe
That's the spirit.
 
 
2 hours later…
4:32 AM
Woohoo
Xcode 3 and multiwindow developement FTW!
 
4:52 AM
iPhone 4 in white!
Also, why was my Australia time zone rant starred? Four Times?
 
5:48 AM
@Moshe Why wasn't my gripe about random notification not starred more often?
 
6:25 AM
@GeorgeMarian No clue. I can only star once.
I might have fixed this bug!
Hrm...
Nope!
Still have the same problem with sunset...
 
Well, almost.
I'm kinda pulling in both directions.
See, I am trying to calculate sunrise and sunset.
For some reason or another, Australia gives some odd results.
I do the actual calculation in GMT then convert for timezone.
But the latitude and longittude given are not for Greenwich, but for another location.
Testing between NY and Melbourne...
I get correct value in NY for both Sunrise and Sunset and incorrect sunrise in Melbourne.
Or, both correct in Melbourne, but one is wrong in NY.
(Don't recall which.)
 
Australia's just weird. ;)
 
It's my algorithm, not the Australians.
See, in a given day, there are X hours, of course, X being 24.
 
@GeorgeMarian It's a joke. :P
 
6:30 AM
@GeorgeMarian I know.
 
@Moshe :P***
 
Now, if Sunset in NY occurs after around 8ish, (think May/June) then you have a value that's just greater than 0 in GMT.
Account for timezone offset, and sunset becomes somewhere around negative four
So... How do you have a negative time for sunset?
I haven't wrapped my head around the other way yet.
But Australia is +10GMT, so go figure...
@GeorgeMarian - Any clue? ducks
 
Now, melbourne's sunset it at 18:58 PM
So annoying...
Alright, this is a port, so I could just blame the original author for now...
Ok, I'm out.
 
g'night
 
6:37 AM
night
closes browser for real
 
 
3 hours later…
9:35 AM
@Moshe You're still there! Or again?
 
 
2 hours later…
11:50 AM
yawns
 
@Nyuszika7H hi
 
@SankarGanesh Hi
 
@Nyuszika7H what is your local time, Here in My place it is 5.23PM
 
It's 1:53 p.m. in Hungary (CEST [UTC+0200]) there.
At the time of writing this, it's already 1:58 p.m.
 
12:01 PM
 
12:22 PM
The GIS Town Hall was a real mess!
everyone was talking at once, making it really hard to know who was responding to waht, even with the reply feature
which was only used maybe 80% of the time. Argh!
 
12:36 PM
chat, why are you failing me?
shakes fist at balpha
 
has changed nick to chat
 
@Nyuszika7H do it. I dare you to.
or Feeds. Change your nick to "Feeds" and see how long you can get away with that
 
No, but Rebecca asked me to don't tell anyone about the process...
 
@Nyuszika7H You actually did it? AHAHAHAHAHA
@Nyuszika7H got it
 
>_> slow updating, it's already Chat
 
12:39 PM
log out of chat and meta and log back in
wait
what?
Oh, you used the bug to work around the 30 day restriction? I thought that was fixed...?
 
What bug?
I think you can change it in an 5-minute period.
Another way:
 
@Nyuszika7H not unless they changed it...
1
Q: What is the reason for the 30 day wait on changing your user name?

godleufI recently combined 2 open id accounts but no longer want to use one or the user name associated with it. I have about 6 days left on my wait, but why so long? Thanks.

 
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Q: Name Change Limiting can be Broken

TreeSteps to reproduce: Change your name on Stack Overflow. After some time it won't allow to change your name again for one month Create user account in Super User or change your name on Super User with the same OpenID Go to Stack Overflow and associate your account with Super User Now the n...

16 hours ago, by Nyuszika7H
I'm working on a jQuery mouse event bug for 1.6, and a real mouse runs across the room under the refrigerator. Mouseleave!
 
@Nyuszika7H yeah that's the bug
 
it has been fixed?
 
12:50 PM
I thought so, maybe I was wrong
IDK, I change my name every 30 days, that's all I know ;-)
 
@Nyuszika7H: Do you have Twitter Account. If then give it me, i will follow
 
@SankarGanesh yup, @nyuszika7h
 
@Nyuszika7H following you, now
 
/nick SomeoneImNot
Oh that's right, this isn't IRC
 
12:56 PM
 
@Nyuszika7H nice try
 
Objective-C is dead, long live Subjective-C! (Or Argumentive-C?)
 
@Nyuszika7H closed as subjective and argumentative.
 
@TheMountainException What exception were you first?
 
@Nyuszika7H The Unhandled Exception
 
12:59 PM
then The NeedsMoarJquery Exception?
 
From what was possibly the most insane day here in The Tavern:
Sep 10 '10 at 14:58, by Popular Demand
If it pleases the court, allow me to submit as Exhibit A the results of the Meta poll: leading the pack, with a score of 40, The Foo Bar; in second place, with a score of 25, The Unhandled Exception; and in third place, with a score of 17, The 0xDEADBEEF 0xCAFE.
I changed my name when the name of this Tavern was not changed to The Unhandled Exception
 
-2
A: Naming the Tavern

George EdisonThe Overflowed Stack

4
A: Naming the Tavern

MPelletierThe Overflowing Stack

Well done, meta.
 
@Nyuszika7H um, yes, I think it was: The Unhandled Exception, The NeedsMoarJquery Exception, Josh, The Renamed Exception, The OutOfStars Exception, and The Mountain Exception
but I'd need to review chat history to be sure :-)
 
Josh after The NeedsMoarJquery Exception?
 
@Nyuszika7H it was not my choice:
Jan 7 at 4:09, by Zypher
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException also when chat re-syncs with meta your username will be shorter ... i ... couldn't ... stand ... it
LOL
 
1:04 PM
When will be the next nick change?
 
@Nyuszika7H Looks like it's today
 
Yay!
 
either that or the 30 day restriction has been lifted... not sure, one sec
Yes apparently the 30 day restriction seems to have been lifted
This complicates things for me
 
in Status Control Room, Feb 27 at 18:16, by The Renamed Exception
This room is just a "control room" and is not meant to be posted to directly. Talk about this room over here instead
"by The Renamed Exception"
 
I changed my name last on 4/4/11, so I shouldn't be able to change it now. But I can. So, something's up
 
1:09 PM
Ask a Q.
 
LOL
Make sure to start the question title with "Eeeek!".
like "Eeeek! What happened to the 30-day nick change restriction?"
 
2
A: Time left until I can change my display name keeps randomly changing

Jeff AtwoodThis is fixed. Also, some clarification of the rules: only one display name change is allowed every 30 days user accounts less than 2 days old may change their displayname at will there is a 15 minute grace period after each change during which you may change your displayname at will

may be related
 
1:25 PM
0
Q: Was the 30-day waiting period between name changes lifted?

The OyNotFound ExceptionI was just able to change my display name on Meta. I last did this about 24 days ago I think, but certainly not more than 28 days ago. Has the restriction that you must wait 30 days between name changes been lifted? Or is this a bug?

 
Yay, The OyNotFound Exception!
 
Mar 8 at 0:54, by drachenstern
user image
 
I love that
Cracks me up every time
 
@TheMountainException log out and back in from chat and meta
 
1:45 PM
@RebeccaChernoff I am just about done with the digest
 
I'll post as soon as it's done and will @ you
 
1:59 PM
Hooray, Poratl 2 complete.
I mean, uh...lots of progress on the THC script?
 
@TimStone you twit :-p
 
coughs
Well, now I don't have any distractions? :D
 
OK, there's SpaceChem...and I could always play Mass Effect again...and I haven't even opened Dead Space 2....but yes, no distractions.
 
2:31 PM
@RebeccaChernoff oy oy oy oy oy oy oy oy oy oy
function oy() {
    if (Date.now() % 2) {
        oy();
    } else {
        throw new OyOverflowException();
    }
}
 
It's for reproducing a bug...
 
2:47 PM
For a second there I thought everybody's @RebeccaChernoff all over again
 
.---------------.
| The Oy Button |<-
'---------------'
 
@RebeccaChernoff ...
 
.-----------------------.
| A | B | C | D | E | F |
'-----------------------'
.-----------------------.
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |
'-----------------------'
 
@OyOverflowException I had already seen the post. I'm not sure @lerting me several times with a chain of oys is necessary though. >_<
 
@RebeccaChernoff sorry ):
 
2:51 PM
@Zypher ......
 
lol
 
@Zypher, how is NYC treating you?
 
@RebeccaChernoff That's OK, we double-checked whether or not it was necessary for you, and science says it was.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Come on now, if he really is the oy exception then we should let him play the part
 
2:56 PM
@RebeccaChernoff not too bad at all
screwing wiht my allergies though
 
@YiJiang I guess it depends on what an oy exception signifies. Are we short oys, or do we have too many? Or has our oy become an oi?
 
@TimStone The oymutationexception has been raised!
 
is afraid
 
No kidding. Just saw this:
 
allergies are no fun ): thank heavens mine haven't kicked in yet.
knocks on wood
 
3:02 PM
haha yea ... i made it a year and a half w/o tripping them
... ohhh well
 
3:19 PM
Sorry @RebeccaChernoff got a call from a customer. I'm back to work on the THC now
@Moshe that's great
 
@OyOverflowException gasp! Newsflash: Citizens cower in fear as Oys mutate into terrifying flesh eating zombies
 
I thought we were past the whole "oy is hysterical" thing, and then suddenly it came back with a vengeance
 
Since you can have the same name with another user on SO, one of you could have renamed themselves to Rebecca Chernoff on April 1st... :P
 
@MichaelMrozek whatever would have given you that crazy idea?
 
3:23 PM
@OyOverflowException A bunch of people did exactly that
 
@MichaelMrozek O RLY?
I changed my avatar to rchern's one, too, for one day—though I was still suspended that time.
 
Could a mod please unfreeze The Trash Heap at their convienience? Thanks!
I have to take out some garbage
 
@TheNameChangeException Just dump them in the sandbox
 
@MichaelMrozek oh really, is that what we're doing these days? Cool
Thanks!
 
3:51 PM
I want to kill the rate limiter
I know I'm posting 16 answers to my own question. I know what I'm doing! Really I do!
 
@TheNameChangeException Yep.
No stars...
 
@MichaelMrozek wishful thinking ):
 
Wes
okay this has to be wrong
this weekly reputation chart
i'm above skeet at the moment
 
4:13 PM
@Wes No way, that's unpossible!
 
Wes
How do I get a screen grab in ubuntu
 
@Wes Whole screen or just a single application?
 
Wes
either
 
Applications > Accessories > Take Screenshot, though I don't know where this can be found on 11.04
 
Wes
Ahh damn closed the tab
Its different now
:(
 
4:17 PM
Or just the print screen button
 
Wes
yeah got it (back button on browser)
 
Wes
can I upload here?
 
@Wes Sure, just click the upload… button.
 
Wes
that can't be right
I've got at most 30 rep this week
without checking
+15787 change sounds suspect too
but hell I'll keep that screen for a bit
@TheNameChangeException didn't realise one name change suggestion had already been suggested
 
4:22 PM
@mootinator: and @GeorgeMarian: Hi I need your Help
 
@SankarGanesh Is it anything I actually know anything about?
 
@Wes You'll always be at the top I believe
 
Wes
Ahh
Makes sense
still +15787 sounds well wrong
 
@YiJiang I don't think he ment that
 
Yay, got +2 rep from a recalc!
 
4:29 PM
@OyMutationException Wait what?? Rep calcs are supposed to be mean and spoil your day!
 
Wes
does +2 actually make any difference?
 
Wes
also which site?
 
@Wes it seems like a lot
 
Wes
4:30 PM
Yeah probably cause I'm normally no change in rep
so any change in rep pushes me above others like me who don't really participate
looks like no change since december
 
waits for their name change back to normal
I already changed my name back to Nyuszika7H, but it's still not reflected in chat.
Yes, I logged out from chat and meta.
#!/usr/bin/env ruby
while true
   puts 'oy'
end
 
Wes
Okay the Exception part I understand. Possibly mutation since the exception part mutates is the oy bit against someone else @OyMutationException
@Trufa Actually I did I'm an idiot
 
4:59 PM
@SankarGanesh I've tried to help you, but you seem to ignore my suggestions.
 
@GeorgeMarian and @mootinator: sorry poor internet connection
@GeorgeMarian: Are you in a Recurring Team, to hire new guys
@GeorgeMarian: I have a question on that
 
5:30 PM
@SankarGanesh What's a Recurring Team?
 
>>> RecurringTeam
function () { [native code] }
@GeorgeMarian It's a secret.
 
Mrs. Claypool, Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool, Mr. Gottlieb.
I could go on all night but it's tough on my suspenders.
 
uhhh
bug? or migrating back and forth?
 
It was a bug.
 
5:36 PM
ahhh
 
Wes
@GeorgeMarian Recruiting? @SankarGanesh
 
@Wes Ah, yes. That sounds likely.
shudders at the thought of a whole team of recruiters
 
5:54 PM
$ can-haz cheezburger
Nope.
 
@Wes well said
@GeorgeMarian: wes said correctly
@GeorgeMarian: i had few problems in reliving from a firm
 
So, what's the question? Ask it already. If someone has an answer, they will share it.
 
@Nyuszika7H You should try cat.
 
Wes
6:11 PM
0
Q: Can you downvote for `grammar` reasons?

NealSomeone decided to start downvoting my answers due to them being too bulletin boardlike (not good grammar and capitalization) Is there a way to report those users? and what can i do about it? edit here is one example

Doesn't look like a novice user. No meta history, but fairly decient SO rep. Is there anything in his claim?
 
> “The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack.”
 
Wes
@GeorgeMarian huh?
 
Emphasis added.
@Wes Sony, on the PlayStation Netowork hack.
CC info was encrypted, other info was not.
 
@GeorgeMarian "Unfortunately, they came from the side, rendering the forward-facing sophisticated security system useless."
 
@TimStone LOL
Maybe it was too sophisticated. ;)
 
6:15 PM
@GeorgeMarian Ah, you beat me to it. I was just about to say "That, or..." hahah
 
6:29 PM
ARGH
Cable modem connection is down
 
@RebeccaChernoff I connected via my cell phone to post the last few questions to the town hall, but I need to get off so I can call my ISP again
(Who was unable to fix it yesterday -- it was down for an hour and then it just miraculously started working)
 
@GeorgeMarian: it seems to be poor internet connection , i will come back to you later
 
@SankarGanesh That's what I assumed.
On both counts.
> 101_fix_use_of_privates.diff: From upstream, fixes crashes due to use of uninitialized privates
ROFL
 
@GeorgeMarian cya
bye
 
6:57 PM
And now it's mysteriously working again
@RebeccaChernoff I have a THD digest for you
3
Q: 2011 Moderator Election - Town Hall Chat Digest

JoshThe following is a "digest" version of the 2011 Moderator Election Town Hall Chat. The format, as described on Meta Stack Overflow, is one answer to this question for every question asked in the Town Hall, containing all the candidate's answers to that question. To view the digest chronologicall...

 
7:10 PM
FINALLY
 
LOL
@MichaelMrozek you've been waiting all day, huh?
 
@TheNameChangeException I've refreshed their meta every 20 seconds since last night
 
Ars Technica's FB page has benen locked due to a bogus copyright claim.
FB is going DOWN!
:-)
 
@TheNameChangeException, what's going on? I entered The Tavern about 50 seconds ago, and your MSO and Tavern usernames don't match. And neither one mentions mountains.
Never mind, I see you were/are testing a bug.
 
7:22 PM
@PopularDemand I just assumed that was a cover story.
 
@TimStone instantrimshot.com/whistles_innocently
(That website is unlikely to actually exist.)
 
@PopularDemand yes, exactly
 
@TheNameChangeException Aw, I was going to paste in mmyers's "you should try cat" message.
 
Hello
 
Wes
7:33 PM
hi
 
Hey @Marc, how are you?
 
pretty good, ta
 
7:49 PM
Hi @Marc
 
@MarcGravell Glad to hear it
Ug. Seems like someone just tried to execute a slowloris attack against one of my servers.
 
@TheNameChangeException Now are you @TheNameChangeException or @TheOyNotFoundException ?
Chat shows the former.
 
I am The OyNotFound Exception
Chat needs to resync
Also @Nyuszika7H, did you see @balpha's reply? The name changing bug will soon be fixed :-)
 
@MarcGravell You can thank me for bringing the good weather all across Europe to the UK, by the way.
 
@TheOyNotFoundException I saw it just now.
7
Q: Chat box on parent site showing conversation from the future

nhinkleThe chat preview box on Super User, which shows who has recently talked in rooms which the user is currently in, seems to be caught in a rift of the space-time continuum. Several times today I have noticed it saying that a user will speak in anywhere from 0 to 20 seconds. I took a screenshot as a...

 
7:52 PM
@TimStone then; thanks
 
Any time, any time.
 
good god, you have to be kidding me: market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2528068
 
I'll have to come back and poke around some more at some point, I was only in Bristol for a few short days and didn't get a chance to see much.
 
@TimStone You were in @MarcGravell's country and didn't take him to the local tavern and buy him a pint? Do you just not appreciate chat or are you just a selfish, selfish man?
;-)
 
I feel slighted
I demand retribution
 
8:01 PM
@TheOyNotFoundException I just assumed he was hiding from me, likely for good reason. :P
 
LOL
@MarcGravell Sure. Send me a T-Shirt and I'll go to @TimStone's area and refuse to buy him beer as a penalty.
 
lol
 
Better yet, we'll all take a trip back to Belgium, and I'll buy the beer. ;)
 
\o/
Free beer on @TimStone's tab!
 
night all
 
8:09 PM
@Nyuszika7H sleep well
 
(5 votes left today)
 
Wes
your not there
Hey everyone is programmers the right place to ask about pushing your team into shape? Also is it possible to ask a question anynomously
 
@Wes You have to be notable before you can get in there.
I mean, you have to be notable before you start changing your name.
 
@Wes you're right. I'm not. :-(
It makes me sad!
@mmyers I have always assumed nobody added me because I was not notable enough
Or because it does say "Other changes in management", and while I do use chat all the f-ing time, I don't manage anything really
I mean, clearly my chat usage shows I don't manage my time well...
 
Also, if everyone that changed their name tracked it there, I'd have to lock it like Kyle Cronin did.
 
8:19 PM
Another reason I never added myself :-)
But really adding myself just seemed so egotistical. And as we all know, I am not egotistical in the slightest. At all. In any form!
 
Apr 28  edit displayname  from The NameChange Exception to The OyNotFound Exception
Apr 28  edit displayname  from The NameChainge Exception to The NameChange Exception
Apr 28  edit displayname  from The UnicornNotFound Exception to The NameChainge Exception
Apr 28  edit displayname  from The OyNotFound Exception to The UnicornNotFound Exception
Apr 28  edit displayname  from The Mountain Exception to The OyNotFound Exception
Apr 28  edit displayname  from The OyNotFound Exception to The Mountain Exception
 
Witchcraft!
 
@mmyers Sweet! I wish I could see stuff like that!
And yes, clearly today I was testing a bug ;-)
 
Wes
8:39 PM
Is the chat notify slow on SO?
 
@GeorgeMarian Oh good, so there's reports that they're physically relocating the PSN hardware. While that suggests that the attack was on-site, it's much more amusing to imagine them sitting there thinking "If we hide the servers, the hackers won't find us!"
 
@TimStone LOL
 
They need to paint them and throw bushes on top.
 
starts marketing the camo-server
 
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