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12:11 AM
 
@YiJiang sighs
@drachenstern What sort of madness is this? :P
 
@TimStone You say madness, I say delicious goodness that must be mandated
 
Oddly, I'm not a super huge pancake fan.
 
My desire for pancakes is slightly less than my unwillingness to actually make them; thus, I never have pancakes
 
Yeah, that sounds about right.
 
12:18 AM
The problem is you expect that you're the one making them
You must convince OTHER PEOPLE to make them for you
 
I discovered that pancakes with chicken, bacon and cheese are amazing. Mind you that applies to anything with chicken, bacon and cheese in it pretty much.
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It's not like pancakes are that difficult to make.
 
@Ninefingers Hmm, I think I had something like that once. It was pretty delicious.
 
@Ti
 
@GeorgeMarian Don't make me pull out my effort versus effort required to make things graph again.
 
12:20 AM
lol
 
@TimStone yep it's great. I had it only a few days ago.
 
holy effing
 
@drachenstern Dang. Just the tip is a good night out.
 
@GeorgeMarian I know right?
Here's the reddit thread reddit.com/r/funny/comments/ghtsl/…
 
> WTF is a broken down golf cart and why do I want one so bad.
> Shooter. Tastes like Watermelon Jolly ranchers.
Brilliant.
Incidentally, I found out recently that the lime flavoured Life Saver had been turned into watermelon (apparently many years ago), and it also reminds me of the Jolly Rancher flavour.
 
12:40 AM
Hmm, I wonder if Southwest's problems will affect my flights next week.
 
Southwest! \o/
Hopefully not though.
They grounded 80 planes, resulting in 300 cancellations, presumably they can get that worked out by next week, heh.
 
Sure hope so!
 
Otherwise just have them send out the company jet ;)
 
@TimStone hehehe
 
12:50 AM
@drachenstern lol
 
@drachenstern Suddenly, and for perhaps the first time ever, TheTXI makes sense.
 
@Ninefingers waffles (with chicken, bacon and cheese) are better though.
 
1:13 AM
user image
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@Jin
 
 
8 hours later…
9:40 AM
er
 
9:59 AM
@Shog9 hmmmm yeah I reckon that might be worth a go actually.
 
10:20 AM
'concision' is such a lovely word that I'm going to start using it in all my edits from now on
 
or "edited for clarity"
 
 
2 hours later…
12:20 PM
I lucidly remember @Jeff suggesting a new close reason a few weeks back, something along the lines of "too trivial, look in the manual". But I can't find the related question or blog entry. Does anybody know what happened to that? Can anybody point me to a link? Or was it a dream?
 
 
2 hours later…
2:03 PM
Errr .. anyone?
 
tumbleweed
quiet here today.
 
yep
Tooooo silent
 
Posted by Jeff Atwood on February 22nd, 2011

On Podcast #58, Joel and I had a disagreement. Not the first, and certainly won’t be the last:

Joel says that the only bad simple question is a duplicate simple question. I say simple questions are OK as long as they’re actually interesting (in some way) for other users to consider and answer. To prove his point, Joel actually asks the question on Stack Overflow: How do I move the turtle in LOGO? Do you think this question adds value?

We still have this disagreement. Our community is now struggling with the very same issue across multiple network sites: …

 
I've a stupid doubt (a question too simple) :)
 
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A: Should "trivially easy to find" be a benchmark for moderating the site?

Jeff AtwoodI am considering a new close reason not sufficiently interesting: this question is too basic; it can be definitively and permanently answered by a single link to a standard internet reference site with no additional explanation necessary. I think that says it all, but you have to read caref...

@Wether Hm?
 
2:06 PM
Without our old orange envelope ... how I should know if one of my favorites gets modified?
 
@Wether It does show up in the mini dropdown.
 
Does it? wow ... I feel 20 mg. more stupid now. Thanks!
But there is no alert ...
 
@Wether Yeah, I'm not sure about that one. :/
 
@mootinator OK! Thanks a lot
 
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Q: Recent favorite changes

Denilson SáSo, the old envelope is dead. The huge Eeeek! What happened to my envelope? question has been deleted. Rest in Peace. Also, I know the new recent activity popup is still being refined. So, this post is a suggestion for improvement. One feature the old /recent page had that we don't have anymore ...

 
2:22 PM
"is still being refined" seems the definitive answer :)
I really miss the "Eeeek! What happened to my envelope?" question
 
@Wether I really miss the "Eeeek! What happened to the what happened to my envelope question?" question
 
@mootinator thanks!
 
@Shog9 That was deleted because recursion causes stack overflows
 
That was exactly what I was looking for.
 
3:22 PM
Why should there be an alert for a favorite changing?
I get that people want to know when they happen, thus it's on the minidashboard, but why do we need an alert?
 
Is there an Atom feed for favorites yet?
 
very good question, doubt it
 
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Q: Outlook 2010 and HTML Tables

cooolpixHello, i am just creating some email newsletter, and i cannot figure out how force outlook to display my HTML table corectly. There is simple example: <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" id="outlookHack" style="table-layout:fixed; border: 0; background-color: #1E6C9D; background-image: ...

Do you consider the question off topic?
 
hello trufa
belisarius here
 
@Trufa No
 
3:36 PM
@Wether hey what's up!!
 
:) raining
 
@YiJiang ok, good to know, I was doubting because of the @Daniel A. comment, he's a very high rep user!
Thanks!
 
@Trufa How was your university selection process?
 
@Trufa 27k isn't that high around here
 
@drachenstern well, It's high enough to spot an offtopic question!
@Wether very good I have quit business administration and have started a career on CS, big change!
 
3:39 PM
@Trufa doesn't make him right. If the guy is injecting HTML into emails through an addon (what it appears) then he wants to make sure that his code is doing the right thing, which means validating the markup by hand. I think it's perfectly ontopic
 
but I think / hope it's for the best!
 
@Trufa yep. daunting :D
@Trufa You should go ahead with both
 
@Wether I don't have the time or the patience! :) no, really, what I'm sure about is that quitting BA was a correct choice
It's impossible to say I I will be forever happy with CS, but BA was making me crazy!
I have been pushing it for too long!
 
@Trufa ha BA is useful when you get enough experience in CS to start your own bus.
 
@Wether I'm sure it it, and I have leart quite a bit, but I just could not finish that career, maybe if I dind't work or had no life other that my career but that is not my situation, I don't see it as a complete waste of time though...
 
3:46 PM
@Trufa Well, a good uni will not offer much spare time in your new CS career
 
@Wether not a damn spare minute :) I started working half time because I won't be able to do this carrer working 10 hs like I was... 4 hours a day leaves me most of the day off to study... I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.
 
@Trufa work 4hs a day! that's paradise!
 
@Wether and after working 10, you can imagine how short it feels! (un toque mal!!)
:)
 
@Trufa Do you have to start all over, or some courses (math, for example) are common to both careers?
 
@Wether no, math in BA is really simple and they did not allow me to revalidate (excuse my spanglish) any, I have 6 or 7 that I won't have to do, I have every business administration course in the career validate and them some the generic courses specifc to university courses, like taller de redacción, antropología filosófica and no english through...
So in almost every year/semster I will have one or two free hours...
 
4:03 PM
@Trufa You will enjoy those free hours like the most precious treasure. I'm sure
 
@Wether but, they are treasures!
@Wether I just have to get through the math, particularly algebra, the rest I don't think I'll have any problem... that's my biggest challenge
 
@Trufa GENTILE, E.R., Notas de Álgebra. Eudeba. 1981 - Top Top
 
or:
:P
I'm checking out If we have it on the library
 
@Trufa Of course you can ask. But I am very far from a good textbook now :)
 
@Wether hehe
@Wether we don't seem to have it, but I'll ask, thank for the advice. BTW what do you d for a living?
 
4:13 PM
@Trufa Some people call it "consulting". Others have harsher words
 
@Wether hehehe that words always reminds me of cosa nostra...
on what subject?
 
@Trufa Technology, mostly. Business sometimes. Strategic planning. Those kind of things.
 
@Wether nice!
 
@Trufa Well, sometimes.
 
@Wether I have to leave now but will be back in an hour or so... If you are around I want't to ask you math opinion about something (about a probability distribution graph) I think you won't have much trouble :) I have discussed it already with drachenstern but we couldn't get to an agreement (well I could not get to an agreement with myself mostly)
 
4:20 PM
@Trufa Ok. glad to help (if I'm still around) c u
 
@Wether thanks!! there is no hurry, I'm just curious... See you too!!
 
4:53 PM
Who needs <marquee> when you can have a jQuery plugin that does even worse stuff!
 
@balpha With great power comes great abuse
 
@balpha ohh boy!
 
@Shog9 $.skynet()
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5:28 PM
lol
@balpha are you planning something we need to be aware of?
 
Heh, just realized someone set up a Denver location... With two tentative attendees. Man, Colorado is lame.
 
@drachenstern Bouncy 2.0!
 
@Shog9 you're not ... by chance ... in Denver are you?
@balpha you like to make your plans 360 days in advance do you?
 
@drachenstern No. I'm ~2hrs south (a solid 2 hours during rush hour)
 
@drachenstern ?
 
5:35 PM
(I mentioned it simply because that's the only Colorado location)
 
@balpha that sounds like something for 0401xx
 
@drachenstern If you build it, they will come: meetup.com/stackoverflow/Saskatoon/89780
 
Does that name "Cade Cannon" mean anything to you guys? says he was a high rep user during the beta, not so much anymore. I don't have an SO ID perse
@mootinator no effing WAY! NICE! Hopefully you can get them to come over for the guided tour :p
 
@drachenstern ah, I guess you're too young to remember bouncy? :)
Sep 2 '10 at 10:37, by balpha
changeset:   2069:0665193eae8c
tag:         tip
user:        balpha
date:        Thu Sep 02 12:31:44 2010 +0200
summary:     Bouncy is dead. Long live Bouncy.
 
@drachenstern Ahahaha.
 
5:39 PM
@balpha do you mean too young SO wise?
@balpha lol
presumably this user
@Shog9 I'm looking at you here
 
What about him?
 
does his claim stand? was he an active beta user?
 
I saw that :p
it's also on his profee
I meant was he of note? Or just kinda this guy who was around
said something about everything being wiped post-beta
I obviously weren't around then ....
Like the book of Exodus ... you hear these stories and wonder how accurate the stories were, ya?
 
Any reason you can't look at his rep graph? (;
 
5:51 PM
I don't personally remember him. But I don't remember a lot of things. If I'd been in charge of writing Exodus, it would have been three bullet points: - Slaves, - Nomads, - Laws
 
lol
@RebeccaChernoff I remember some discrepancy on those things amongst/during discussions
@RebeccaChernoff also, stackoverflow.com/users/565/… APPEARS to be blank
what am I doing wrong @RebeccaChernoff ?
 
On the first link, the top graph just doesn't go back far enough, but if you look at the graph underneath it you see activity early on. So you could drag/highlight that and the top graph will adjust to the selected timeframe.
 
what? what graph? I don't see it
ffs, closing and reopening brought it up ... /shakeshead
So to answer the greater question, yes that does answer my question :p
 
@Shog9 LOL
 
Ok, so now the question, wtf is up with that page? Is it brand new and has a few issues? Why did it take so long for it to come up?
 
5:57 PM
@drachenstern It doesn't like you? It worked fine for me. :)
 
@GeorgeMarian %&@)$@(%)^@)%*&@)$(%)@#*^()@%)#$%(@)$*^%)@#
 
hehe
If in doubt, blame the cache. ;)
 
/blame cache
 
Hiya all.
 
Hola @Moshe
 
6:07 PM
Up against a deadline.
iPad app not working correctly. Thankfully it's graphics glitch.
 
@Moshe and you came here because ...
 
@drachenstern :-D (was on the phone)
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Q: How do I get the width of a UITabBarItem?

MosheThe width of a UITabBarItem varies, depending on how many there are. How do I determine how wide my tab bar items are? I'm looking for a property if possible, as opposed to a mathematical formula, since on the iPad, there is also an issue of padding on either side of the tab bar. Consider thes...

 
Everyone logs into chat when they're on the phone. It's just protocol.
 
@TimPost Indeed.
 
I hate phones. I hate darn near anything that blocks, or more distinctly anything that causes me to block.
 
6:10 PM
block?
I just had an idea!
goes to check theory.
 
@Moshe Yes, as in dedicate my whole brain to the yammering stream on the other end of the call.
 
@TimPost as in he didn't grok what you meant by blocking ...
will be so happy when Moshe finally goes to Uni
 
@drachenstern Ahhh, ok..
In computer science, a non-blocking algorithm ensures that threads competing for a shared resource do not have their execution indefinitely postponed by mutual exclusion. A non-blocking algorithm is lock-free if there is guaranteed system-wide progress; wait-free if there is also guaranteed per-thread progress. Literature up to the turn of the 21st century used "non-blocking" synonymously with lock-free. However, since 2003, the term has been weakened to only prevent progress-blocking interactions with a preemptive scheduler. In modern usage, therefore, an algorithm is non-blocking if the...
 
My theory is wrong. That won't fix my problem.
Meh.
 
Holy cow I have 6666 rep on MSO
I am the moderator of the beast!
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@Moshe also see:
Asynchronous I/O, or non-blocking I/O, is a form of input/output processing that permits other processing to continue before the transmission has finished. Input and output (I/O) operations on a computer can be extremely slow compared to the processing of data. An I/O device can incorporate mechanical devices which must physically move, such as a hard drive seeking a track to read or write; this is often orders of magnitude slower than the switching of electric current. For example, during a disk operation that takes ten milliseconds to perform, a processor that is clocked at one gigahertz...
Good inter human communication should be both synchronous and asynchronous, but broadly asynchronous.
 
6:25 PM
Ah, I know what asynchronous is.
 
Unless, of course, it's your mother calling ....
 
:-)
I gotta go get this done.
 
@Moshe Then what are you doing here? :)
 
@TimPost Oh, that's easy. I'm leaving, of course. :-)
 
@Moshe but why did you come in the first place?
 
6:28 PM
I'm only supposed to use this diamond for good, yet I see this 'kick' option .. Hrmmmmm.
 
lol
there's a one hour ban yes?
 
@drachenstern I'm not sure, I've never had to use it
 
nor I
 
@Moshe hold still, this (probably) won't hurt at all ...
 
6:32 PM
@Moshe has a CORBOMITE DEVICE! Every time I get near that link, I get the hiccups.
Man, I didn't know JQuery could do that.
It could also be this bracelet that @RebeccaChernoff sent me.. can't seem to take it off though .. strange.
 
@TimPost @TimStone look, more details about how their powers work emerges!
 
waves hands there are no bracelets
 
@drachenstern For some reason my first thought was "Wonder Twin powers, activate!"
 
@RebeccaChernoff Illogical .. Illogical ... there must be bracelets because I have one . but there can't be bracelets because you said so .. but there must be brace[NO CARRIER]
 
@TimPost it doesn't affect you
I mean ... what are you blathering about
fakes as though her Jedi powers had effect over me ...
and if my machine were to bluescreen right now I would shite myself and go home for an hour
 
6:39 PM
@drachenstern it is preferable to shite yourself at home.
 
Oh right, Jedi mind tricks would have been a much simpler way to get rid of that bird.
 
@TimPost Indeed
Oh, so how did the bird thing resolve itself?
 
@drachenstern simple, there is no bird.
 
@TimPost not quite the universe I thought we were in but OK
 
@Shog9, code red, code red, subjects are unruly...the, uh, devices may need adjusting.
 
6:45 PM
readies probe
 
No not that probe @Shog9 .. you're summoning people now ... put it away, put it away
 
FYI: analprobe.org .. in case you ever need one.
Disclaimer, it's run by Ken Rockwell
 
@TimPost who's he?
 
@drachenstern a photographer with a very twisted sense of humor. kenrockwell.com
 
6:56 PM
@TimPost just making sure it was the same one of reference that google turned up
hehe
> Ken Rockwell doesn't use flash ever since the Nagasaki incident.
 
Eesh, I'm starting to think I should have picked a location for the meetup where I could reserve space :P
 
@mootinator That would have helped.
 
Yeah, I got fortunate in that one of my users knew who to call ... he's actually done quite a lot to get this thing going. I'm just the interested guy showing up with the shirts ;)
 
I thought "not usually busy" was going to be good enough. Hehe.
 
The thought of 50 programmers hovering over a big table, with ten saying "Are you done yet? Are you done yet?" and the rest saying "Are you going to eat that?" is, however, priceless.
 
7:02 PM
lol
Whoa ... we have more peeps than Austin or Atlanta ... >.>
Hopefully this will be really good networking for me :D
 
I didn't get anyone interested in The Philippines , unfortunately.
 
I made my estimate based on such cities 5x the size of mine as Ottawa. That was my mistake. meetup.com/stackoverflow/Ottawa-CA
 
As with everything else, we'll probably just do our own thing.
 
Who here is familiar with facebook development?
 
@drachenstern Facebook DEVELOPS?
 
7:06 PM
I thought that I had to login or something for instant personalizaton, but this website knows who I am and I don't think that should've happened ... grr@facebook
my privacy settings have instant personalization turned off
 
I thought they just smoked stuff and made web sites. Odd
 
Facebook and privacy are opposite terms.
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@JakubHampl Indeed, sadly enough.
 
Facebook is to privacy as predatory is to loans.
 
@TimPost I think your logic is off there
 
7:09 PM
@drachenstern I don't quite see how?
 
@TimPost I don't know of any non-predatory lending :p
 
@drachenstern Ah, so you got it? :)
I wasn't contrasting ....
 
but you imply something different from what you say
 
Sardonicism (from , a convulsive laughter) is the expression of derision, cynicism or skeptical humor variously through comment, gesture or writing. Origin The etymology of sardonicism as both a word and concept is uncertain. The Byzantine Greek Suda traces its earliest roots to the notion of grinning () in the face of danger, or curling one's lips back at evil. One explanation for a later morph to its more familiar form and connection to laughter (supported by the Oxford English Dictionary) appears to stem from an ancient belief that ingesting the sardonion plant from Sardinia () woul...
 
if predatory is to loans means $(loans).hasClass(predatory) [does ->] true then the other clause you suggest is $(facebook).hasClass(privacy) [must ->] true
 
7:12 PM
@drachenstern I see you also received a bracelet.
 
I rather wish I had ... all I have so far is some sort of twist tie thing :p
Something about lesser suns and the Galactic Core, to distort Asimov
 
@drachenstern I was making a deliberate and obvious logical fallacy.
It was (supposed) to be funny, I'll work on that.
 
@TimPost but I am a pro-tem mod ... so I do have some of those powers (unless you've taken the same path as Josh and Rebecca)
 
Lol a question with plz giv me teh codez claiming to be a duplicate without mention what of
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Q: Mouse Down events in Objective-C

JustinI know this question has been asked a lot before, but nothing will work for me. Would somebody please post the full code to get it to function (not just the "use this method" stuff)?

 
@TimPost but it didn't seem an obvious fallacy, it seemed a confused statement to me ... I can see I need a re-tune as well :p
lunches
 
7:20 PM
I should never, and I repeat should never be hired by Stack Exchange. I'm far too difficult to be productive.
I'm also community elected, that's just a blatant conflict of interest.
 
Argh, will I ever finish answering support tickets so I can start playing with the wiring in my new place?
 
@TheOutOfStarsException You will never finish answering support tickets. The best solution I've found is to direct them at yahoo.com, something will distract them and you will have some peace.
 
LOL
I feel like it
Being out of communication for like 5 days has left me innundated
One of my customers is asking for raw SQL access because she believes she can enter data faster than way than she can using our GUI...
 
Is she wrong?
 
very much so
How are you @Michael?
 
7:34 PM
eep
Screw data integrity.
 
@TheOutOfStarsException IT is getting rid of POP3/IMAP access to our Exchange server, so at the moment I hate everything
 
They suggested I use webmail. I suggested they go to hell
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So hopefully the geniuses at UL figure out a way around it
 
hmmmm
After I finish answering support tickets and figure out how to convert the phone jacks in my new home to ethernet jacks, I will take a crack at that
Have you ever seen this oddness with CIFS @MichaelMrozek?
 
Er. No, that's weird. But I don't use CIFS much anymore
 
7:43 PM
Do you have a file sharing technology you prefer?
I would use NFS but it's unavailable in Debian FreeBSD kernel
 
7:55 PM
@MichaelMrozek what?
 
@badpssockpuppet Er. What? :). My work's IT department is disabling IMAP access to the Exchange server, which I depend on, so I'm cross with them
 
8:07 PM
Feast your eyes on the splendor of 1981!
 
@MichaelMrozek Yes, why?!
 
Because they hate me, I suspect
 
An entirely reasonable measure
 
I haven't ruled out @RebeccaChernoff's involvement
 
8:21 PM
Hi @TheOutOfStarsException - Still around?
 
I am!
How are you @Moshe?
 
8:39 PM
Hi @The, long time no see!
 
hey @Pekkastrollingaccount!
Yeah, I've been busy moving
I'm in the mountains now, and loving it
 
@TheOutOfStarsException nice!
In the mountains where?
 
Blue Ridge Mountains, western NC
The Blue Ridge Mountains are a physiographic province of the larger Appalachian Mountains range. This province consists of northern and southern physiographic regions, which divide near the Roanoke River gap. The mountain range is located in the eastern United States, starting at its southern-most portion in Georgia, then ending northward in Pennsylvania. To the west of the Blue Ridge, between it and the bulk of the Appalachians, lies the Great Appalachian Valley, bordered on the west by the Ridge and Valley province of the Appalachian range. The Blue Ridge Mountains are noted for their...
 
@TheOutOfStarsException looks great!
 
It is. I have loved this place ever since I first visited nine years ago, always wanted to live here
How are you @Pekka?
 
8:45 PM
@TheOutOfStarsException Congratulations. Still working with the old company though? Telecommuting?
@TheOutOfStarsException I'm fine, thanks! I've had a change of plans
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount Yup! I worked from home most of the time, so, I am continuing to.
@Pekkastrollingaccount oh? A change for the better?
 
@TimPost Amen
 
@TheOutOfStarsException - Hey!
 
@TheOutOfStarsException well, at least it feels like it! :) I'll try to get into your lovely country to work, preferably California. That is so great a prospect that I'm even willing to keep working in front of a computer for it :)
 
I repeat:
Hey!
 
8:47 PM
@Pekkastrollingaccount Awesome!
If you're ever in the NC area let me know, I'll buy you a beer :-)
 
I need a clean hebrew font, the stuff that ships with iOS is not great.
(Read horrid.)
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Thanks, I definitely will!
 
@Moshe Hey. I repeat:
 
It'll be a tough battle to get a Visa, especially as I'd like to avoid the H-1B which binds you to one employer. If they go down the drain or fire you, you have to leave the country which stinks. But we will see. A permanent one would be the best way of course
 
@MichaelMrozek You should never do that of course ...
 
8:47 PM
25 mins ago, by The OutOfStars Exception
How are you @Moshe?
@Pekkastrollingaccount Yeah, that happened to another SOer I know
 
@TheOutOfStarsException Thank Gd, great!
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount California? :P
 
@TheOutOfStarsException yeah, you really need a trustworthy employer to do that.
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount this brings up my next topic du jour
 
Running up on a deadline with my app. But, meh. It's a self imposed/calendar deadline.
 
8:48 PM
@TimStone I know, I know :) But it's got lovely mountains, and is warm
 
@Moshe glad to hear it
 
and nice cities
 
Has anyone here got experience with being detained by DHS inbound as a non-US Citizen?
 
I like the bay area.
 
Self or others would be fine ...
 
8:49 PM
@drachenstern whew, is that happening to anybody you know?
 
Have a friend at Newark who's plane landed ... oh 3 hours ago, DHS called me looking to verify some details, I answered as honestly as I could, and made sure they were aware that I didn't have as many details about said individual as my wife, and that's the last I know of anything.
 
Does not sound fun.
 
They called the wifey at first, but she didn't answer since it was unknown. I started to not answer, but said "eh, what the hey, I'll see whos calling" ... so glad I did that
Now my wife is kicking her own butt that she didn't ... but it was unknown so I don't blame her, I almost didn't
 
From what I hear, that is not entirely unusual. There have been several incidents of people being held for hours or even days over some technicality
 
8:51 PM
Yeah, but I'm curious what the outside number is on average
I figure ... 3 hours since deboarding is nothing. They've already done the interview with her, and called me for verification of details so ...
I'm curious if her story and my story varied widely (shouldn't have) would they let her phone someone to say she was headed back home if they chose to deport her back out of the country again or what
 
That's no good
Thank you very much Patriot Act...
 
I need some opinions on a graphic.
 
Link it here @Moshe
 
@TheOutOfStarsException I disagree. I think the Patriot Act is a great thing, and the US border patrol and immigration authorities are doing an excellent job. Do you hear me, USCIS? An excellent job
 
8:56 PM
@TheOutOfStarsException - There's two images in this question.
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount buttering up the opposition?
 
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Q: How do I get the width of a UITabBarItem?

MosheThe width of a UITabBarItem varies, depending on how many there are. How do I determine how wide my tab bar items are? I'm looking for a property if possible, as opposed to a mathematical formula, since on the iPad, there is also an issue of padding on either side of the tab bar. Consider thes...

 
@Moshe why would a link not suffice?
 
It's a custom tab bar.
 
@drachenstern You never know how deep their background checks go! :D
 
8:56 PM
Consider the two indicators.
Arrow vs wheat stalks.
 
@MichaelMrozek There is some method of doing this that it hooks through the web interface ... I can't recall the name off the top of my head, but it uses OWA or the like ... something to look into, some direction there
 
I vote Arrow
 
@TheOutOfStarsException - Speaking of votes, notice how I asked that question.... ;-)
 
@drachenstern DavMail?
 
@Moshe I do not understand what you're driving at here?
 
8:59 PM
@MichaelMrozek no I think I was thinking of evolution exchange actually :(
 
@TheOutOfStarsException You said the magic word - "vote". voting ring - GO!
 
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