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2:09 AM
@TimStone Well, obviously, it's really important, right?
 
Apparently ;)
@YiJiang It was a typo, which I've fixed now.
 
@TimStone \o/
 
My bad. :P
 
 
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3:34 PM
Hello. I still have problems with meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/69658/… even with recent firefox (3.6.13) (epiphany doesn't also work)
 
@MaciejPiechotka have you tried the alternate login?
 
@balpha It works in Firefox. Let my try epiphany
 
that alternate thing should work just about anywhere
 
Is that linked anywhere?
 
@balpha It works
 
3:48 PM
@MichaelMrozek yes, in the error message when the usual way doesn't work
 
@balpha Hmm. I seemd to not notice it - it was only notice about logging on stackexchange sites
Possibly just redirecting to this page would help in case of login failure
 
the fact that this button isn't advertised prominently is by-design
it's just temporary
and for people who insist on broken browsers (mainly IE7)
 
@balpha It was a life saver for me a few times these holidays
 
I count Opera mini as a broken browser :)
 
Good, because I don't use it.</nitpick> :)
Even with desktop chrome I used it extensively when I got logged out every 3rd minute.
 
3:55 PM
I've had to use it several times on my iPhone.
 
@balpha Sorry - what's wrong with IE7 design (I mean in particular here)
 
@MaciejPiechotka IE7 doesn't support technologies required for global authentication.
 
no HTML5 dom storage
 
I think balpha has a surprise waiting for the first user suggesting they implement it via Active X for IE7.
 
@radp ooooh good idea!
 
3:56 PM
actually, IE7 has its own version of a local storage
I forget the name
 
@RebeccaChernoff Cool, because I haven't suggested it.
 
@balpha userData maybe? that's what popped in to my head.
 
@balpha Correct me if I'm wrong but currently HTML5 is not finalised yet so technically 'full featured standard-compilant browser' may not implement it.
 
possibly
 
@MaciejPiechotka IE8, Chrome 6, FF 3.5 and Opera 10 all have it IIRC
 
3:58 PM
I could also be making it up. One can never really be sure. (;
 
anyway, most of the time, the reason for global login (including chat.SE login) to fail is either a) IE7 or b) the user has set their browser to "break the internet" (e.g. noscript) and then wants us to fix that
 
Not all bits of HTML5 are equally unfinished.
 
@MaciejPiechotka fortunately even Microsoft is starting to get rid of that particular attitude
that's not how the web works anymore
 
@balpha Does noscript (accepting stackexchange) break feature
 
yes
 
4:01 PM
@MaciejPiechotka you need to accept stackauth.com at the very least.
 
he does
he says all tests passed
 
Anyway, I'm a fan of the ghetto button and have kept it pinned in the Bridge for the last few months.
Then again, I was a fan of bouncy.
 
@balpha Not all features are 'first to be implemented' even if developers activly try to implement them
 
Speaking of the various logging in mechanisms -- what happened to the "log in" button you used to see on chat.SE above the room list when clicking on the "chat" button on the topbar of a SE?
I thought that was the more-officially-supported-but-still-pretty-ghetto mechanism, which is why I was surprised to see it go.
 
@MaciejPiechotka I don't know why you're so apologetic; I'm not even blaming Microsoft for not having localStorage in IE7.
there are enough other reasons to blame Microsoft ;)
@radp I don't know what you mean
 
4:06 PM
1. visit gaming.stackexchange.com or any other non-special SE
2. click on "chat" from the topbar
3. chat.stackexchange.com opens with a "log in" button above the room list (but not in the top bar)
4. click on "log in"
5. you are sent to gaming.stackexchange.com for login
6. you go back to chat.stackexchange.com, logged in.
that's how it used to work, anyway.
 
It was introduced together with the ghetto login button.
in Chat feedback on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Nov 24 '10 at 9:21, by Marc Gravell
http referer header - if we are coming from an SE site, we offer a link back to said SE site for the ghetto login
 
oh, that
you said "button"
 
in Chat feedback on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Nov 24 '10 at 8:27, by Marc Gravell
it would be easier to just go to gaming and click "chat"
@balpha yes, it used to be a proper button unless I'm growing Alzheimer.
 
Oh, not to interrupt, but on chat.SE, in the Site filter list, Gaming and Stack Overflow appear twice for some reason. I told @GnomeSlice I'd harass Marc about it, but you'll work for these purposes as well @balpha :P
 
4:10 PM
iiinterresting
 
Also @RebeccaChernoff had some complaint about it not being scrollable or something, but you can probably just ignore that. ;)
 
 
@TimStone o:
 
↑ simulation
 
honestly, never seen that
 
4:12 PM
eh, it was @MarcGravell working on it more than you.
 
@MarcGravell must have been sneaking that in
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, you can ignore that, the incorrectly orientated smiley and all just makes it easier to pick on her :P
 
that, or I am hallucinating.
 
Heheh
 
But yeah, I couldn't see all the sites in the list.
Just adjust the window size and click more sites (:
 
4:35 PM
@balpha Sorry for late respond. I was rather talking about epiphany. IE 7 does not even run on my system so I have no idea about the state it is in...
 
huh? Epiphany does have localStorage
there's just a bug in Epiphany's XMLHttpRequest
 
4:47 PM
The duplication (site list) is probably just how we handle aliases; I'll add a uniquifier when I'm next on
Stackauth (official) vs local configuration (hackery). Plus stackauth includes aliasing too.
 
uniquifier? (;
 
 
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8:27 PM
@MarcGravell, desktop notifications for other rooms (the tavern when I'm focused here) use the current room icon, not the icon from the room it is in. Be nice if the icon matched the room name appended to the message. (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Current room icon?
 
She's probably talking about the toast
(which I still haven't tried)
 
@balpha Now that it isn't horrible, it's great, so you should.
 
The only catch is that when you get an other-room notification, the instinct is to change rooms right away. But then the javascript code to cancel it after a timeout won't run and the toast is orphaned. Not a chat problem though.
 
I haven't even looked at the commits yet. I don't trust code that I haven't broken myself.
 
8:37 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Hm, that's fixable..
 
@balpha Heheh
@RebeccaChernoff It would be possible to prevent the orphaned toasts.
 
@TimStone That sounds beautiful. Like the first step to world peace. Preventing orphaned toasts.
 
We'd be taking care of child abandonment and world hunger in one fell swoop, hooray!
 
@balpha I went a-looking. Wanted to see the non-minimized chat js. Hehehe \o/
 
8:41 PM
I've determined that dissecting all of the minimized javascript is good debugging practice. :P
Speaking of which, it seems that this is no longer an issue in Chrome 8 and 10, so it could probably be [status-norepro]-ed.
Not sure if it was Chrome or WMD that was fixed, but shrugs
 
I think I'm the only one who worked on WMD recently, and I didn't touch that
 
Ah, something likely changed in Chrome then. :)
Though if you want to work on WMD again, there's always this :P
 
9:37 PM
It seems it's possible for the star list to cause the notification link to be obscured, maybe the link should be placed somewhere else..
 

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