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5:00 AM
@TimStone Yes. Most of the argument is gone now unless you're 10k, it was on an answer that got deleted
 
Ah, I best get on that then.
 
Oh, really?
I thought about commenting to say that you were a mod too, but I'm not sure there's a point in continuing, sadly.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I'm a male mod; we're unimportant
6
 
So, I'm thinking we should just go ahead and take out the notifications from the userscript. Double notifications = fail.
Thoughts?
@MichaelMrozek LOL
 
Yes, when @MichaelMrozek wears diamonds, people try their best to disregard him.
 
5:03 AM
@RebeccaChernoff concur
 
@RebeccaChernoff Triple notifications. I get double from chat whether I'm focused or not :/
 
@Rebecca: chat notifications you're talking about? Agree.
 
So, I vote aye.'
 
Do you also vote that you do it while handling the pull requests?
whistles
hehehe
 
heheheh, lmao
 
5:05 AM
Yeah, I'll take care of it. ;)
 
moves away and eats his popcorn
 
Tomorrow though, when I get home. :)
 
nom nom nom Orville Redenbacher :D
 
Question
 
5:05 AM
Answer!
jinx!
 
LOL
WAIT FORITTTTT
 
Slow @drachenstern is slow.
 
@JacobRelkin oh in that case 42!
 
You had a message collision, jinx indeed!
 
incidentally, how would I turn off the toast, except by excluding it from my browser?
 
5:06 AM
@RebeccaChernoff by my timestamp we are both 23:05:44 ... so "slow @RebeccaChernoff is slow"?
 
That's the only way. Marc was talking about user preferences but apparently forgot about that part. :P
 
@MichaelPetrotta Are you talking about the userscript or the core?
 
core, I guess.
 
If you click on the wrench in the toast, you can remove the permission granted for the domain.
 
At what reputation plateau do you start to say "oh this guy knows what he's talking about"
 
5:07 AM
@MichaelPetrotta goto your chrome options and do it there ;) ... oh, yeah, that's the only way :p
 
Not sure if that's what you mean by "exclude it from my browser" though.
 
@MichaelPetrotta here's another toast to make finding the wrench easier
 
@drachenstern: thanks
 
pffffft (;
 
I always know what I'm talking about, of course. ;)
 
5:08 AM
:)
 
@JacobRelkin when ABS(user - JonSkeet) < 150k
 
@drachenstern You shouldn't mix your food with your tools.
 
wrench == exclude it from my browser, in Michael terms
 
@drachenstern LOL
 
@MichaelPetrotta figured. It either has permissions or it doesn't.
 
5:09 AM
@JacobRelkin The recent meta nutter has 4k on SO; before now I would've considered that high enough to know what you're talking about
 
@Michael Mrozek Well
@MichaelMrozek I guess it's all relative
 
@MichaelMrozek so in addition to reticulating splines we now need "recalculating belief in users not being idiots" (except I don't know how to make that sound cool like reticulating splines) ;)
 
@Rebecca: I just figured, what would happen if I wanted to enable it later? I'd have to walk back into the appropriate settings in all my browsers and plug the right URL in.
 
@JacobRelkin 2k on meta is usually a good sign of understanding SE
 
Okay, that's it. I'll have to refactor my railway lines. Again.
 
5:10 AM
@MichaelPetrotta no, once you disable it refresh the browser
 
@MichaelPetrotta I believe the core implementation puts a link underneath the star area.
 
be easier to change it in the chat itself. Not a big deal at all, just sayin.
 
look under the stars
you'll see it there
 
@Rebecca: oh, ok.
 
@waiwai933 bah, 500 on Meta should be sufficient ;) whistles
 
5:11 AM
@waiwai933 I would think a few thousand on any site should be sufficient to understand SE
 
But my slices of toast are almost to the top of the screen. Have to see what they do then.
 
Pretty sure I started butting in on Meta with about 20 rep. LOL
 
Gah, too many farms supplying a single factory, not enough tracks (pulls out hair)
 
@MichaelPetrotta I think it only shows four at a time. Then it queues the rest to show up after you close the existing ones.
 
@MichaelMrozek In theory, perhaps
 
5:12 AM
@Tim: I see 6, and I think it's stopped there.
 
@RebeccaChernoff You mean meta allows women? How progressive of them...apparently
 
Ah, yeah. I think it might depend on the size too.
 
There's a feature request in for the toast to age away.
I think it uses screen height / 2
@MichaelMrozek oy.
3
322. mumbles 322
 
@YiJiang what game? Also, what's up with VoIP in China?
322 ... why does that number sound familiar?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Every time "oy" gets starred you should just edit the message into something terrible
 
5:14 AM
@drachenstern OpenTTD - and I have no idea what are you talking about VoIP in China
 
@MichaelMrozek lmao, that would be hilarious @RebeccaChernoff ... do eet
 
Jeff's going to join and wonder why we've all starred a bunch of racist messages from @RebeccaChernoff
 
@RebeccaChernoff oh ... heh
 
5:16 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Oh IRC... shakes head
 
@RebeccaChernoff do you by chance have an EMP cannon? I know some guys you could start with ...
 
IRC has nothing to do with it really. As evidenced by the comments tonight.
 
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Q: Vote up, down and null (zero)?

gravityboySince voting is very important to stackoverflow users and a lot of users put up answers as fast as possible (just to be first and get the majority of the votes)... How about if a "null" vote is mandatory? You click on the up triangle for up, the down for down, and the number in between can b...

 
@RebeccaChernoff There was a girl in my main IRC channel once. She didn't stay very long :(
 
@RebeccaChernoff Of course, but it would have been wrong of me to not draw sweeping conclusions about IRC ;)
 
5:18 AM
@TimStone hrmph.
 
It's an odorless, colorless, poisonous rum. I've been building up a tolerance to it for years. http://twitpic.com/3m85ac
 
> @drachenstern You're not a moderator? Get out of here!
 
@MichaelMrozek lmao, I was like ehwut?
 
@MichaelMrozek Yeah, part of why I use rchern in programming channels. Not really gender-specific.
 
I need a button for "I no longer care about this comment thread and want to stop receiving inbox notifications about it"
 
5:18 AM
@RebeccaChernoff and yet the av...
 
@RebeccaChernoff We all know IRC is awesome. :P
 
@drachenstern IRC is text. No avs. (:
 
@MichaelMrozek I prefer the tactical nuke option. Mainly because I like when things go boom.
 
@Rebecca: why did you change to your full name on SE? Felt the climate was good?
 
anyone care to comment on proposed "null votes"?
@MichaelPetrotta - It was a particular conversation that sparked it, if I remember correctly.
 
5:20 AM
@Moshe I did in true MSO fashion
 
@drachenstern With a down vote? :P
 
@RebeccaChernoff shall I requote: "in programming channels" :p
 
@drachenstern - Appreciate it.
 
@drachenstern: here, let me join you.
 
@TimStone - Well, it wasn't me.
 
5:21 AM
@TimStone you clicked the link? ;)
@RebeccaChernoff meaning SO is a "programming channel" :p (yay pedantic semantics FTL!!!)
 
@MichaelPetrotta - Does that mean I get another upvote too?
 
@drachenstern Oh, I saw that junk like twenty minutes ago, you people are behind on the times ;)
 
@MichaelPetrotta - Either that, or you have to null vote
 
@TimStone I meant that you knew I had downvoted :p
 
:P
 
5:22 AM
@Moshe LMFAO
 
I'll null vote it, yes.
 
@drachenstern Oh, no, I'm just good with assumptions. :P
 
@MichaelPetrotta - I wanted an upvote, no fair!
 
I added a lulz comment. everyone go upvote me ;)
 
:-)
 
5:23 AM
@drachenstern heh. Yes, well.
 
@drachenstern - that was my joke. Hey! Let's all null vote that guys questions on SO.
 
@RebeccaChernoff you'll notice I got my semantics correct on there ;)
@Moshe and you posted an answer, I did a comment for the lulz ;)
 
@Moshe: to be honest, I didn't have the patience to read the full proposal, but I didn't see anything there that implied that you couldn't undo the null vote.
 
@MichaelPetrotta I did, you're not missing anything
 
@MichaelPetrotta - No, all votes on SO are locked in after a while
 
5:24 AM
@Moshe and he's proposing unlocking that
 
@drachenstern - eh
The attack of the null votes.
 
@drachenstern - saw that.
 
@drachenstern Not entirely unexpected - broadband and mobile are already under the control of state-sponsored telcom monopolys
 
Well, the second day of the new year, time to get to bed
Hopefully my app runs through the night tonight.
 
5:27 AM
Alright, time for me to remember who distracted me and blame them..
 
OMG, just saw the weirdest thing on MythBusters ... apparently you can convince bamboo to grow THROUGH a person (eg torture)
@YiJiang well you do travel there, no?
@TimStone /blames WOB?
 
@drachenstern Convince it? With money?
 
@MichaelMrozek - No, with null votes.
2
 
@MichaelMrozek I didn't hear the whole thing
 
@TimStone You could just be lazy and blame Mrozek instead of bothering with the WOB.
 
5:28 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Oddly enough the WOB came to that same conclusion.
 
@drachenstern: that's nothing. Here's the *real* way to torture someone.
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DI-ASbyfaSR0&start1=10&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfbobBCe5-kU%26feature%3Drelated&start2=15&authorName=Not+Sure
 
The WOB is contrary to our practices; it attempts to be fair it deciding who's at fault, as though that's something we consider important
 
@MichaelPetrotta - ha
 
Clearly I'm winning meta
 
5:32 AM
So, i actually wasted time commenting on gravityboy's questions in response to his null vote proposal...
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Q: exact syntax of RewriteRule

gravityboyDo I need a slash before or after the /somefolder/(.*) below? I want to redirect everything coming into a folder to another website address. Do I need the RewriteCond in here somewhere also? Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine on RewriteRule somefolder(.*) http://www.differentsite.com$1 [R=30...

Look at all 11 of this guys questions.
Clearly, it's getting late.
 
> @drachenstern and have a good day :-) – ring0 3 mins ago
 
Can't wait to see the flags I get by morning...
 
ehwut
 
@drachenstern - where?
 
@Moshe ...you spammed that on all his questions?
 
5:34 AM
@Moshe > meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/73643/… < not worth oneboxing
 
@MichaelMrozek - It's only 11 questions total. At least they're all unique.
I thought it funny. And it's really late. Gimme a break. Please?
 
@drachenstern - heh, I'm not sure what to make of that.
 
Eh...
 
@Moshe I was leaving it be ;)
@Moshe it's not tho :(
 
5:36 AM
@drachenstern - not what?
 
anyways, you can always delete it tomorrow after sleep
goto bed, sleep well
 
thanks
 
@Moshe: ಠ_ಠ
 
@Moshe the point to linked comments is so I can use shorter expressions in my typing ;)
 
@Moshe not funny?
 
5:37 AM
@RebeccaChernoff - ok.
@MichaelPetrotta - Dude, that emoticon is totally you, with the sunglasses.
gnite.
 
gnight
 
Any mods here, feel free to clean up, I'll do it tomorrow, otherwise.
 
Meh, don't make mods clean up your stuff.
 
There's no mod magic to deal with it, they're just going to manually delete each comment the same as you would
 
@RebeccaChernoff - I said I'll do it. I was offering if any mod wanted to.
 
5:38 AM
@RebeccaChernoff I hear you're a mod of some sort, you should do it
 
upgrading from 12 gb to 24 gb of memory for $330.
 
Okay, I really should be sleeping, not babbling here.
 
that's so sick I want it!!!
 
I'm a mod on WA. You do it!
I want to go from 6gb to 12gb
 
@RebeccaChernoff - I'll do it tomorrow.
 
5:39 AM
I have 12GB...I don't see 24GB being a useful investment :P
 
Can female mods even delete comments? (Eventually this will get old, but I'm not there yet)
 
@Moshe I'd be sleeping ... but for some reason I can't go to sleep until midnight...
 
@MichaelMrozek > Yo dawg, I heard you like to mod when you mod, so I put some extra comments on the page for you to mod while you mod
 
@Michael: oh, you're getting pretty close.
 
fast-forwards to eventually.
 
5:39 AM
@RebeccaChernoff I want to go from 3 to 6 :(
 
@MichaelMrozek And when you're done, you can just switch over to the WA jokes.
 
@MichaelMrozek I'm pretty sure you passed old after she posted 322 ;)
 
I understand. Washington is a funny, funny state.
 
@drachenstern I ignore most of what @RebeccaChernoff says
 
5:40 AM
lmao
 
@MichaelPetrotta It does make me giggle.
 
Did you forget what happens to people who make her upset? Has the lesson of the distressed garbage disposal escaped you already?
 
Ah right, my New Year's resolution involved self-preservation. I better stop encouraging jokes at her expense. :P
 
5:42 AM
It concerns me how many results I got searching the transcript for "garbage disposal"
 
@MichaelMrozek lol, me too
mid-Nov
 
All right, Rebecca's scaring me away. I'm out.
(either that, or it's time for dinner)
 
Hah, enjoy.
 
lmao, enjoy dinner
I do believe this is quoteworthy tho:
Nov 12 '10 at 15:31, by Popular Demand
Wow, no wonder Mrozek is scared of rchern!
 
5:44 AM
really feels that Mrozek would be the better butt of all the jokes in here.
 
I don't know if "scared" is the right word. "Wary of sudden moves", perhaps
@RebeccaChernoff oy?
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Out of 194GB on my external disk (I'm working on cleaning it up today), 133GB are strictly audio/videos
Oh, and I got my library almost back into shape, after deleting something on the order of 1500 duplicates, I'm down to a svelte 7100
 
@MichaelMrozek No need for the question mark. Be confident!
 
@RebeccaChernoff he already said he was wary ;)
 
@RebeccaChernoff I guess that's why I only got one star
 
5:46 AM
@MichaelMrozek mebbe
 
How many songs do ya'll have in ya'lls libraries? (digital variants, not things on round spinning platters stored in dust jackets on shelves)
@MichaelMrozek I bet she starred it no less ;)
 
@drachenstern I'm lazy, so only 942.
 
@TimStone egads!
I think there were almost that many in the Beatles Boxed Set (I keed)
 
Yeah, lazy.. :P
 
don't onebox you fool --> chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/89?m=270393#270393 <-- the avatars updated but not the names? Are the avs loaded on the fly from gravatar and everything else cached?
Seems like the username wouldn't be cached
I guess it helps tho if the @username isn't updated on the fly
So I found an installer on this drive for Firefox 0.8 ... anybody need a copy?
debating to pitch it or keep for nostalgia, pretty sure it can be redownloaded in the future tho
oldapps.com/firefox.php <-- would seem so ... wow, 7 years ago?
The more interesting question might be why my timestamp is 3/7/04 and theirs is 3/10/04 ... and even more interesting would be why am I the only one talking?
 
6:01 AM
@drachenstern Go check Meta.
 
@TimStone is there something interesting on MSO in particular?
 
You'll know. :P
 
from gravityboy?
 
Also, wow, it really was that long ago..
nods
 
Commented, replete with acknowledgement that my comment was none of my own business ;)
@TimStone did you upvote my comment? ;)
 
6:09 AM
Not I, I'm working. :P
 
grrr, stupid eyes, don't do this now, I'm not ready for bed :S
Enjoy working, I'm cleaning my external filesystem ;)
How can I change my gravatar just on MSO?
Do I have to use two different emails?
 
I believe so, yeah.
I'm feeling kind of tired myself, meh.
 
doesn't that suck?
I'm so not ready for bed yet
not mentally anyways
 
Yeah, it does...I'm good for some more TV, but my debugging skills are quickly fading, heh.
 
Yeah, that's why I gave myself some light duty work ;)
and no TV in the bedroom, so if I want to watch TV I gotta sit up
waiting on my newest gravatar to upload ...
have I got the new av there by your browser? How long does it take chat.MSO to update?
 
6:22 AM
@drachenstern It depends on Gravatar, so force refreshing should work
 
I tried that :(
 
ie. ctrl + F5
 
Do you see my new gravatar?
 
@drachenstern Only in the profile onebox you've got up there
 
well one is better than the other, I'll wait a few hours (aka sleep) and see what it looks like tomorrow
 
6:23 AM
I'm pretty sure gravatar let's the browser cache it with HTTP headers
 
PS: ya'll are welcome for me introducing a bit of orange ;)
 
6:39 AM
The Leidenfrost effect is a phenomenon in which a liquid, in near contact with a mass significantly hotter than the liquid's boiling point, produces an insulating vapor layer which keeps that liquid from boiling rapidly. This is most commonly seen when cooking; one sprinkles drops of water in a skillet to gauge its temperature—if the skillet's temperature is at or above the Leidenfrost point, the water skitters across the metal and takes longer to evaporate than it would in a skillet that is above boiling temperature, but below the temperature of the Leidenfrost point. The effect is also r...
watching this on MythBusters ~ Then off to bed.
 
Of course, the entire problem was that I forgot to pass a parameter, heh.
 
lol, ouch, been there
 
@drachenstern heh I was going to ask if you were watching the MythBusters.
 
@GeorgeMarian hehe, yep, I'm curious if it can be done, I presume so from the WP link
 
That is freaking cool. Gotta do it just right, though.
 
6:43 AM
well, by Feb I should be past Tyler on the all-time chat messages ... makes me think I'm doing this wrong ;)
@GeorgeMarian it's freak-y all right, I wouldn't try it, that's for sure
@GeorgeMarian would you try it? Would you yell at the TV?
I would need like 7 more test runs
 
Heh. I dunno. After seeing them do it, maybe. But, I'd have to be certain I understood it well.
And, of course, I'd use the left hand. :)
 
I'ld be scared shitless
but that was cool
ok folks, ciao
 
g'night
 
 
2 hours later…
Jin
9:11 AM
dam @YiJiang laid the smack down. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/73651/…
3
 
9:43 AM
@TimStone ^ :P
 
10:14 AM
I hate C, Python spoiled me big time.
trying to relearn argument passing
...although I could just avoid that by passing a struct out.
not exactly lightweight multiple output but...
typedef char t_path[MAX_PATH_LEN];
typedef struct {
    t_path next;
    t_path remainder;
} t_path_next;

t_path_next path_walk_into(t_path path) {
    t_path_next output;
    t_path next_dir, my_remainder = "/";
    // massage around code with side effects
    output.remainder = my_remainder;
    output.next = next_dir;
    return output;
}

path.c:41: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘t_path’ from type ‘char *’
path.c:42: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘t_path’ from type ‘char *’
fml
I guess I'll go ahead and get called a noob on SO.
 
 
2 hours later…
12:59 PM
Sigh @ n00bs pestering about unrelated garbage in the comments
"Please give me u're email... Is it possible?"
"My goal is scientific ...Be sure..."
"We need to think scientific.are u agree?"
2
 
 
1 hour later…
2:14 PM
Wow, @YiJiang did lay the smack down, vey nice. :P
Also, hooray for me being a train! And electric one at that.
 
@TimStone It's actually the in-game equivalent of the TGV - they changed the name to avoid trademark issues :P
 
Ah, even better.
 
Good Morning.
 
'Ello
 
I went to delete those "null vote comments" and to my surprise, they all were upvoted, except for one.
Well, that settles that. I tried.
 
2:25 PM
-1
Q: the red numeric indicator in global inbox is too small

TshepangWould it hurt to make it at least twice as big?

The number is readable, but the fact that a random red circle shows up isn't noticeable?
 
3:02 PM
@Moshe why? Is it impossible to delete comments with an upvote? Since when?
Off to try out
Works for me
 
@Pekka - I know I can, but why would I delete upvoted comments?
@TimStone - I am in favor of that one.
The iOS devices can be laggy at times and if I tap the text in the Super Multi Collider before the page is completely loaded, it takes me to Stackexchange.com. I want to see my inbox, so I zoom in all the way, tap the balloon and then zoom out. That's inconvenient.
Heh, this is funny:
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Q: C# IDisposable question

Yippie-Kai-YayHello! I have the following code example: public interface IRepository { // Whatever } public class SampleRepository : IRepository { // Implements 'Whatever' } public class NHibernateRepository : IRepository, IDisposable { // ... public void Dispose() { ... } } Now - is that r...

iDisposable.
Typical "Microsoft-land" kinda comment. Any iDevice is disposable. :D
Hey @DanGrossman
 
3:34 PM
-2
Q: Stack Overflow Stalker

gravityboyThis guy went to every one of my questions and wrote something stupid about the null vote idea. Is there anything I can do about it?

 
@Moshe That behaviour (SE.com loading) is not iOS-only.
however, my lowly Opera Mobile doesn't need much fiddling with the zoom.
 
What does lag have to do with zooming? If you're tapping too early, just wait. Why zoom?
 
3:51 PM
@RebeccaChernoff The wait can be long. That red number is there teasing you all the time.
PUSH ME PUSH ME PUSH ME PUSH ME PUSH ME PUSH ME HAH TOO EARLY!
 
 
it didn't do anything..
 
× 10³² FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
4
@TylerChacha I hope you're happy now.
 
3:55 PM
@Moshe The default action for the SE button is to take you to the SE homepage - if page loading takes too long, the JavaScript override doesn't kick in for a while
 
@radp I'm pretty content, yes
 
@RebeccaChernoff :D
 
@RebeccaChernoff Thanks, deleted them all now.
Is this a wrong response to @gravityboy?
Aside from an apology, of course, which I have already offered.
 
It isn't something that I would post.
 
4:10 PM
Okay, then I won't.
Is it at least a fair sentiment? (I can take criticism, hence the question.)
 
So uh..no scanners.
Apparently they pulled back to a reasonable level.
 
@TimStone - huh?
 
@Moshe, I'm not sure what the size of the dot has to do with anything in that situation..
Body scanners at the airport.
I've succeeded in not being violated \o/
@RebeccaChernoff Seconded
 
makes a note to remove notifications an handle pull requests when he gets home
 
4:18 PM
Hehe. I may end up beating you to it. We'll see.
Working on my fantasy football lineup now. I think I'm going to lose the championship because of resting players.
 
Hahah, well that's fine too ;)
 
Hmm, a couple of aforementioned players are Eagles. I think that warrants a /blame @TimStone. (:
 
But I'm a Cowboys fan! ;)
 
4:37 PM
@radp when I click, nothing happens, When I right click, it offers to "Save as..." What gives?
 
@Moshe @TylerChacha broke it.
 
@TylerChacha - Tyyyyylllllleeeeeerrrrrrrr! Why, oh, why?
 
Woohoo I have a new av!
So what do you think is the successrate of arguing with JonSkeet on C# questions?
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Q: Membership provider to use or not to use?

Shekhar_ProHi every one, wish u all a Happy New Year. I am developing a website that uses Facebook. Now for managing users I thought of using membership provider and choose to develop a custom membership provider. My problem is that my database schema doesn't match the standard membership schema and the fu...

 
5:00 PM
@drachenstern av? Avatar?
 
Indeed sir
 
I noticed, congrats.
 
@Moshe You did see the meta post about it last night right?
 
Hello
 
I see you did see it :p ~ hadn't gone back to the question before now
 
5:11 PM
@drachenstern A new, unreadable avatar.
 
Only when it's small. Clickit
 
5:32 PM
sorry, had to go dig it up. There's a backstory, but suffice to say it means something to me ;)
Sadly gravatar won't let me use the whole thing as my av ;)
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A: What is the best comment in source code you have ever encountered?

Lance Kidwell// Replaces with spaces the braces in cases where braces in places cause stasis $str = str_replace(array("\{","\}")," ",$str);

 

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