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8:00 PM
I do have a good word for you sir ;)
the problem is I open up the TW for you
 
Is it going to make me unhappy? :P
 
OAT
DOAT
 
Ah, damn, it did make me unhappy.
 
oh good lord, seriously you stupid bag of letters?
 
Hello fellow taverngoers! How is everyone doing this fine day?
 
8:01 PM
Good call playing there.
 
Josh!
 
Hi Josh
 
'Ello!
 
drachenstern!
 
For lunch today I believe a bag of chips and a soggy sandwhich is on call
 
8:02 PM
@TheUnhandledException pretty infuriatingly
 
if you'll check my twitter you'll figure my real name :p
 
@radp What's up?
 
yeah, frustrating, depressing, boring, all that jazz.
 
@drachenstern Um... yum..?
 
@radp yes, what is up? You've not said anything about being infuriated earlier
@TheUnhandledException it is a tavern after all
 
8:02 PM
@drachenstern irony?
 
@drachenstern This is true XD
 
@drachenstern I'll take a double, and make it quick.
 
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Q: Stack Exchange Chat logs me out every 3 minutes

radpI tried to log in via the ghetto login button, via StackAuth on the room list, via StackAuth on the login page, via StackAuth after logging in and out of a SE site (SF), via the 'chat' button on Gaming... ...but no matter what I do, today I'm consistently being logged out. The 5 minutes figure ...

 
@radp This would infuriate me also!
@Fosco rough day? :-/
 
heyheyhey I'm not barman today, I only stopped in for some pretzels and a wee spot of chat
 
8:04 PM
@TheUnhandledException meh.
 
I can relate to "meh" all right...
 
> The Desktop Notifications API allows script to request a small toast to appear on the desktop of the user.
Why can we never call things by serious names in programming stuff? :P
"Look, a piece of toast on my screen!"
 
Also, my favourite example of a horrible question getting huge popularity got deleted today.
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A: What's your favorite "programmer" cartoon deleted?

radpI disagree that the question should be deleted. It stands as the perfect example of everything that is wrong with allowing recommendation questions with one item per answer -- exactly the kind of evil SE 2.0 sites are struggling to avoid. Without a concrete example to point to, our experience m...

 
toast? hehe
 
IT'S ALL LIES. THERE IS NO BREADY GOODNESS THERE.
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coughs
 
8:06 PM
erm
|:
 
LOL @Bready goodness
 
where is it called toast at?
 
allo @TheUnhandledException
 
we must have the link! We demand it!
 
Android refers to everything like that as a toast.
 
8:07 PM
Hey @Rebecca, how are you doing?
 
oh, well there's the problem then
 
But in this case, here
 
you're talking all Java and stuff ...
I don't even know why self respecting developers would sully their hands on that mess :p
 
go away little toast, go awayyyyyyyyyyyy
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So what would you call it besides "popup"?
 
8:07 PM
I'm content with pop up I guess.
 
'desktop notification', like the browser does.
 
@TheUnhandledException I'm aight. (:
 
@Fosco tooooooooo looooooooooooong
 
Or, you know, what @Fosco said.
Since that's what it is. :P
 
@drachenstern anything which actually describes what it is?
 
8:08 PM
@TheUnhandledException which toast does not
 
But on an android phone, it isn't a desktop!
 
It's certainly not a toast, because it doesn't behave like toast.
 
@RebeccaChernoff he's actually reading it from the chromium project docs
 
@RebeccaChernoff "Notification thingadongdong"
 
8:08 PM
You can't butter it...
 
@TimStone if we butter it how does it land on the floor?
 
Oh, I guess it does behave like toast.
 
@Fosco Well you can but it will make your phone all greasy
 
protip: if you butter my monitor....
 
But the animation is so damn fast I thought it just appeared.
 
8:09 PM
(or my phone)
 
StackExchange SuperBreadyGoodness ButteredToastPopupâ„¢
 
@Fosco lmao
 
here, have a proper â„¢
 
8:09 PM
DON'T STAR THAT!!!
 
The SBG BTP for short.
 
remembers he's supposed to be working...
 
I think someone has a script set to trigger on rchern's OYs with a star response
 
time from 'oy' to star: < 2 seconds.
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@TheUnhandledException you too huh?
 
8:10 PM
svn switch branches/1.3
 
Chat != your console
 
@drachenstern Sadly yes
 
No work for me!!
 
provides helpful hints
 
@TimStone I was wondering why that didn't work!
 
8:10 PM
@TimStone why not? :(
 
</brag>
 
Yes, you and your joblessness....
 
you stop? I never do. I'm like "OverInflatedEgoMan" :D
 
@RebeccaChernoff what happened?... i remember something about a new guy =\
 
I was going to make a hybrid Clippy + SVN joke at @TheUnhandledException's expense, but I decided it might be too much.
 
8:11 PM
time to go fix a bit of code that's not doing what it's supposed to ... sigh and alas
 
@RebeccaChernoff There's a pull request waiting for you while I do other stuff, FYI. ;)
 
@TimStone How do I move the turtle in logo?
 
It looks like you're trying to switch development branches....
 
@Fosco I'd have called it StackExchangeâ„¢ TimeWarping DesktopLubrificatorâ„¢, but I guess yours sound tastier
 
@TimStone I was going to laugh at your joke. |:
 
8:12 PM
@Fosco yes this was better
ug, can't type
 
@RebeccaChernoff In that case: "I see you're trying to type your password into this document. Would you like help committing that to the repository?" immediately /blames @RebeccaChernoff
 
@Fosco I switched jobs. I start my new job on the 3rd.
@TimStone oy.
 
Funny thing is, now that it's finally time for me to resume work on version 1.3 of this module, I've forgotten what changed since v1.2!
 
Your new job doesn't feature embedded IE controls right?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Oh ok, that's great!
 
8:13 PM
@TimStone Haha. I pray not.
 
@TimStone It probably features embedded Silverlight controls.
See it's web 2.0-ier.
 
@Fosco 'tis. \o/
 
@radp Ah, well that makes everything OK then.
 
An oy goes un-starred...
 
8:14 PM
I'm thinking of a number between zero and one #binarymagictricks
 
Today I tried to count from 0 to rchern. The void ate my attempt. :(
 
I once scored a dart game on a chalkboard using binary..
 
@Fosco Excellent cheating opportunity.
 
@radp >_<
 
@radp I take it that you didn't reach equilibrium then.
 
8:16 PM
Tyler that's really slick, I like it
 
I made the mistake of trying to explain what hexadecimal was to a customer and my boss yesterday...
 
-2
Q: Having no facebook account, only twitter, can I get friends with facebook account see my tweets on their wall?

only twitterHi, I have no facebook account, only twitter. However I have some friends with facebook accout and I want them to be able to see my tweets. Is that possible? Thanks.

 
I might suggest showing a shadowed 2 and 3 tho ...
@TheUnhandledException you didn't!
 
@TheUnhandledException Why would you subject yourself to that? :P
 
I have questioned that ever since :-)
I could hear the woooosh as the concept went over their heads =b
 
8:17 PM
I could explain hexadecimal to them..
 
@TheUnhandledException "It's a way we use to sneak funnies in our code. You know, for morale. See what I did there? 0xDEADBABE. Funny, see?"
 
Don't eat with your hands, boy, use your entrenching tool.
 
@Fosco I could explain it to my boss, if I could make him care enough first ;-)
 
8:18 PM
raises brow
 
This client still doesn't understand what a "pixel" is, so, they're beyond even your skills @Fosco ;-)
 
what if you needed to represent 10, but could only use one character?... so you get from 1 to 9 and then use A
 
Should have pulled out the magnifying glass for that one. :P
 
@Fosco that's a terrible explanation
@TimStone that was my first thought too
 
lol
 
8:19 PM
someone's gone star-crazy
I see an "lol", a " raises brow " and an "erm", all starred...
 
@RebeccaChernoff yeah i saw that earlier and up-voted you.
 
wow, I tab out and things are regular, I tab back in and half the window is starred.
Pekka must have stopped by!
 
@RebeccaChernoff wouldn't that question still be on-topic? (though completely retarded)
 
The real and only reason for hex is because that's what half a byte collapses to in simple expansion form. 1010 can be quickly expressed in 1 character and still have sufficient meaning while not being hard to quickly grasp. There's no reason to explain that to a lay person without also explaining what a byte is, what a chunk of memory is, or a register, or why we care. Personally, I'ld have just said "programming jargon"
 
8:21 PM
@drachenstern that's a worse explanation.
 
@drachenstern Jargon is too complicated of a word. The preferred term, as always, is thingadongdong.
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@drachenstern ROFLMAO. While this is true, you think my client who doesn't understand what a pixel is will understand what a nibble is? ;-)
 
@Fosco think so?
 
@drachenstern uh-huh.
 
I went for the cheapest fastest way to explain it
 
8:22 PM
@TheUnhandledException A magnifying lens would explain that.
 
I did not go into why it mattered, which I think he did
 
I think it's more technically correct but also much more difficult to understand
 
@TheUnhandledException that was the point of the second half of my comment ;)
 
i think i'd start with base 2
and work my way up
 
Why is everything starred?
 
8:22 PM
Anyway, I blame Coding Kitten for the star spamhammorage. I know it's @YiJiang's fault somehow.
 
looks up I seem to have pulled a hat-trick. Three consecutively starred posts, hooray! \o/
 
@drachenstern I think the client would be sleeping after the first half ;-)
 
@radp This seems most likely, yes...
 
@TylerChacha how is this different from any other time in here? ;-)
 
Believe me -- I'm as surprised as you are that this time it isn't actually @RebeccaChernoff's fault.
 
8:23 PM
I would start with this... "and I'll just represent that in hexadecimal" -> "hexawhat? we don't need no stinking witchcraftery" -> "oh that's just a technical term, sorry"
 
Although, maybe she hacked the WoB.
 
@radp I reserve my blaming of @RebeccaChernoff for more obscure things. When my eyes are assaulted, it's almost always @YiJiang's fault.
 
@TimStone there should be a badge for number of consecutive starred posts in chat
 
I have a strange feeling they wouldn't be down with that ;)
Especially given that the only people to have it would be us, heheh.
 
It's all coming from my brain @tcv. I have a surplus of 2010 dated tweets I need to use up before they expire.
 
8:24 PM
Although there was a bit of starring going on in The Bridge the other day, so those Gaming folk might be alright with that idea too :P
 
@TimStone lol, too true
 
@TheUnhandledException I share with @RebeccaChernoff the dubious award for having written the same message and receiving messages for it 3+ times (or so Grace Note claims).
 
is it my turn yet? I need to plan for my next move
 
@drachenstern that's actually the serious reason why I decided to explain it, it's a datagrid and one column is labeled "Hex Code", for an HTML color code... and this client is very religious and I wanted to make sure they didn't think it was some sort of secret code for a witchcraft hex...
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Although to be fair I don't actually have a clue of what my magic message actually is.
 
8:25 PM
@drachenstern No, not yet. I had a move, but you indirectly blocked it.
 
@TheUnhandledException That's usually the only reason to explain it
 
And I've been too lazy to find another one just yet.
 
@TimStone yatta!!
 
@TheUnhandledException oh wow...
 
@TheUnhandledException lmfao
 
8:26 PM
LOL. I'm serious :-)
 
No, I believe you, I would just never in a million years have gone there.
 
IN THAT CASE, I would've pointed them at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colors and just said byebye
 
@TimStone nor will I ever again, LOL
 
But kudos to you for taking that into consideration, I suppose. :P
 
Web colors are colors used in designing web pages, and the methods for describing and specifying those colors. Hexadecimal color codes begin with a hash (#). Authors of web pages have a variety of options available for specifying colors for elements of web documents. Colors may be specified as an RGB triplet in hexadecimal format (a hex triplet); they may also be specified according to their common English names in some cases. Often a color tool or other graphics software is used to generate color values. The first versions of Mosaic and Netscape Navigator used the X11 color names as th...
^^^^^ for the lazy ones
 
8:26 PM
HASH??! is that some kinda DRUG?! /sarc
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@drachenstern ooooooh, puuurdy colors!
@Fosco AHAHAHA
 
That image is very misleading, now people are going to think you're colouring spiders with pencil crayons.
 
spiders? like in emails?
speaking of, can I get that returned to me? it's very precious
> In the case of Blockowicz v. Williams, The US Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals refused to force Ripoff Report to remove allegedly defamatory comments posted by a user.
good stuff
 
What is this Desktop Notifications thing?
 
@TylerChacha that's exactly what it is.
 
8:29 PM
lol
 
ooo.. kewls
 
Ok, I think we need OB support for 27b/6
 
@drachenstern get in line. last.fm first!
 
@TheUnhandledException only if you read that post ;)
 
(for the Tunes room of course)
 
8:30 PM
but of course
 
@drachenstern I read that probably 2 years ago ;-)
 
Yeah, been there, done that, jeeze. :P
 
and now I'm encouraging you to read it again cos I know you have work to do and I'm helpful like that ... I'm pretty sure the word is helpful ;)
 
@Fosco, my linking my post had nothing to do with the specific question you posted. Was just linking it.
I want someone "normal" to post an answer either backing up my proposal or disagreeing with it. Hehe. dreams
 
She was trying to garner more up votes from all of us under the false assumption we hadn't already up voted her ;)
 
8:32 PM
@drachenstern LOL. It was pretty freaking funny, I do admit
 
Oh, really? I thought you explained it well enough that there wasn't much else to add, heh.
 
@RebeccaChernoff "normal" ... here?
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ohhhhhh! Desktop Notifications!!! Right there below all the stars! Now I see what you guys are on about!
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Yeah...
 
@TheUnhandledException Chrome only (Firefox didn't implement it yet.)
 
8:33 PM
wait when the hell did I get starred so much?
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I didn't see it down there at first because the stars list normally contains such nonsense I just pay no attention :-/
 
After all, Firefox isn't trying to sell a web-only OS...
 
@drachenstern Exactly. A non-mod and non-chat user.
 
@TheUnhandledException Hahah :P
 
8:35 PM
Say to say, I think that means I can sum up the state of starred posts in this room in a single word: oy
 
@RebeccaChernoff and you were asking in chat? ....
@TheUnhandledException we are NOT starring that tyvm
 
Huh? No.
 
oh ok
hey did you ever pick out a desk for sure?
 
@drachenstern Someone will. I'm sure. Then I can be like @TimStone and pull my own hat trick ;-)
 
@TheUnhandledException Your message isn't starred..
 
8:36 PM
I see a hole in your stars :P
 
@drachenstern I think bit.ly/hUqpdF with the corner desk, return, tech cabinet, 3-file cabinet, tall bookshelf.
 
I was at a friends house the other day.. he has a motorized desk that smoothly changes height. insane-o.
 
Yeah, I thought about that.
 
@TylerChacha It was for a moment
 
@TheUnhandledException I'm toggling it on and off
its fun
 
8:38 PM
I like that it has wire management built into it, that's nice
 
oh goodie, @TylerChacha pinned something. |:
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the corner desk has an integrated 4-port usb hub
 
meh, unless it's like a surface mount I could be more excited
Those always tend to break on me
makes me very ;(
 
The right edge thingadongdong is the usb hub
 
@RebeccaChernoff I was thinking about putting something like that in the desk that I'm going to make for myself, heh. Since I've given up on finding something premade that I like. :(
 
oh interesting
 
8:41 PM
It's not really why I'm choosing that desk, but it is a nice bonus. I do kind of regret that the monitor I bought doesn't have usb ports.
 
Well then you'll have to show us some pics once it's all together ...
Did I ever post the ghetto pic of how my desk is arranged at the moment? with my height-aligned triple monitors?
 
Hmm, not sure.
 
So I heard rumours that Mr XKCD would be the man behind the "EMPLOYMENT STATUS SCALE" ads
...are they substantiated? That doesn't look like his style.
 
I don't think so
 
@radp I'd agree, I don't think that looks like his work
 
8:45 PM
I'm so lazy
phone -> photobucket -> chat
instead of phone -> computer -> chat
 
@RebeccaChernoff I would not like that
 
I think I'm going from about where the left monitor becomes visible at the top to hopefully bliss. \o/
 
What if you switch to USB3? What if it breaks? etc
I'd much rather buy a desk which acts as a desk and a USB hub as a hub
 
You hack the SOB out and put in a USB3 hub, duh :P
 
8:48 PM
@TimStone literally, hack
 
@TheUnhandledException well I'm not talking about heavy-duty use. Plugging in my iPhone to charge. Plugging in my camera to copy over pictures every once in a while. Plugging in a flash drive.
 
@drachenstern I think I might put "PRETEND THIS IS WORK INSTEAD OF A PLACEHOLDER DOCUMENT" on my second monitor and see how long before my boss notices
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@RebeccaChernoff yeah it would probably be fine for that
 
@MichaelMrozek lol, I know right?
 
@drachenstern We're all sharing workspace pics now? :-)
 
8:51 PM
@TheUnhandledException well a while back I was excited about getting a new third monitor but my middle one (as you can see) is smaller by a bit
I was just sharing cos I want to avoid work ;)
 
I want a third monitor :-(
 
@RebeccaChernoff my iPhone didn't like charging that way :(
I gotta use one of my bricks (of which I suddenly seem to have like 8 at my house, not that I'm complaining)
 
Are these desktop notifications part of the UserScript @Rebecca, or is it just a new feature of chat?
 
@TheUnhandledException it was quite the fluke, and my IT guy is like "keep it until we need it, if I need it I'll come get it"
@TheUnhandledException you can thank @MarcGravell for that one
 
8:52 PM
@drachenstern lucky
 
@TheUnhandledException both? Which ones are you seeing?
 
@RebeccaChernoff The ones in chrome which I enabled via the link under the stars
 
@TheUnhandledException a fluke I tell you
 
Ah yeah, that's Marc.
 
I don't like them...
 
8:53 PM
none of us do
 
I prefer my XMPP notifications ;-)
 
snap ... do we need to put in a MSO ticket on them?
 
The userscript beat Marc by a couple days.
 
These don't go away, they're kinds ugly on my Linux machine, and they only show up on the workspace Chat is on which is somewhat pointless ;-)
@RebeccaChernoff And your flair script beat their by a few days also :-)
actually a few weeks, right?
 
Hmm, not I don't think it was quite that long.
Mine do go away.
 
8:55 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Yours as in, the ones from your userscript?
 
Though other than that, they're still Chrome notifications so would look the same and appear the same.
aye.
 
@Rebecca your StackFlair is still better than the "official" one, and while I have both on my website yours still has the prominent place on every page :-D
 
(:
I'd like to get back to StackFlair and do a bit more work on it.
 
I can't wait to be done with this crazy workload so I can resume work on XMPP
speaking of which, why am I chatting again instead of working? LOL...
 
@RebeccaChernoff Fix the error handling for when the API misbehaves ;)
 
8:58 PM
To be fair, both my implementation and Marc's implementation have issues. I just think mine are more minor issues. (;
hides from Marc.
 
@TimStone show an LOL cat image or something ;-)
@RebeccaChernoff That's why I like XMPP notifications, you can use a real GUI client like Growl for Mac or libnotify for linux
 

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