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3:00 PM
@Stilly.stack Nonono. It's .
 
@Stilly.stack I closed as a duplicate btw...
 
@TheGuywithTheHat thanks. @rene thanks.
@rene Yea, I still have close votes this late into the UTC day, since I got reviewed suspended : (
Not by the audit system, but like a mod targeted me or something and just gave me a review ban.
 
@Stilly.stack why?
 
@JanDvorak Anna posted a couple links, one to the late answer and first review queue posts.. but I couldn't see them b.c I'm <10K .. But I'm barely in those queues now adays.
 
@Stilly.stack want a screenshot?
 
3:05 PM
sure, if you can just post it in here
 
what should I shoot?
 
yesterday, by Anna Lear
@Stilly.stack Found a couple reviews of yours that are a bit questionable and may have landed you with the ban: http://stackoverflow.com/review/late-answers/4317671 and http://stackoverflow.com/review/first-posts/4317665. I suppose strictly speaking the answer fits the question, but it's most likely spam at this point. The ideal action there would've been to vote to close the question and delete the answer.
 
Durn that automated site which allows itself too much freedom with contributed content. — Your Common Sense 1 min ago
 
My brain is having a hard time parsing this. Can someone help? :D
 
3:10 PM
@AmalMurali Does anyone know who the picture is of 'yourcommonsense' profile pic?
 
@Stilly.stack: I don't know... Google image search doesn't turn up anything
 
@JanDvorak Thank you! Yea, I remember that I first thought that post was spam , but then I read the questions , specifically "Is there any tool available for this" , so I put no action needed.
 
@Stilly.stack is there a tool for this would be a good close reason...
So that is already a trigger for a spam attracting question
 
Shirt.Woot finally has Purple (Eggplant) shirts, and one of them features unicorns!
 
3:20 PM
@rene Yes, I know that. However, the review was for the answer, not a review for the question. Plus, it is possible that I was already out of close votes for the day, so I couldn't close the question.
 
Hmm, don't know why, but he has also posted (and now deleted) an answer linking to ircmaxell's SO hack...
 
@Stilly.stack OK...
 
3:34 PM
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Q: Could we make the review-banned-by-a-mod notice say something more descriptive?

UndoSince we got minitech as a mod (yay!), lots of people have been getting review banned (and rightfully so). Many of these people come to Meta to complain/ask about it. When they do, they seem to be thrown off by the current reason that shows up: You have failed too many recent review audits, ...

 
3:44 PM
How can we diagnose a layout bug if a mod removes the comments causing them :-)
 
4:03 PM
You don't. You wallow in your mortality.
 
@animuson Can I wallow in somebody else's mortality?
 
Try it as an opening line: Can I wallow in your mortality?
 
I'd wallow in her mortality. Dayum.
I hate questions like stackoverflow.com/questions/7709041/…. These old high voted poorly researched questions. That question should have been downvoted to oblivion, and the answer is just a less-complete regurgitation of the easily findable JDK installation docs.
The internet would be improved if the whole post was just replaced with an HTTP forward to docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/getStarted/problems/index.html
 
4:20 PM
@JasonC Lol errr, or, the actual question itself is a typo. They're missing a backslash after C:...
 
I know... :/
It would be awesome if we could mark questions as duplicates of external web sites.
It's a beautiful Saturday. Do I a) go outside and enjoy it, b) procrastinate in the flag review queue, or c) rewrite the crappy firmware for these lighting controllers like I was supposed to do yesterday?
I choose d) watch Archer reruns.
 
e) Play Pokemon
 
I can definitely do d and e at once.
 
Well you could also do a if you took your TV outside.
 
Netflix and a wifi booster on the roof, done and done.
And surprise, bonus unopened bag of Oreos that I forgot I bought. Toss in some cigarettes and PBR and I've got one healthy Saturday lined up.
 
You know you don't really need to post cv requests here for every question. There is a queue and a recent activity list.
 
@JasonC He's review banned. :(
 
Oh. sad trombone
 
4:45 PM
wonders how a trombone can be sad
 
@hichris123 Trombone's aren't born sad, they just almost always choose to be sad.
 
@Stilly.stack That's totally unfair. They cry for help because the system has failed them.
 
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A: drools 6.0.1 workbench cannot deploy to tomcat7.0

irvanaHonestly, i can't comment at your posted question. But read through your error log and find what the previous errors should be help you more because the error said ...startup failed due to previous errors. Maybe you can post that here too :D

^ NAA
 
4:57 PM
If you want to flag some NAA's I posted some here:

 Charcoal HQ

Where smoke is detected, diamonds are made, and we break thing...
 
That one @hichris123 linked to before - stackoverflow.com/questions/22733737/… - it boggles my mind to think that there are people out there who actually have brains that determine that that would be an acceptable way to ask a question.
 
@JasonC Yeah, I know. Maybe those people forgot their brain? :P
Gah, I need to get to 10k on SO.
 
5:16 PM
Dammit I'm so out of touch with PC technology. My laptop has USB 2.0, FireWire 400, and eSATA; what's my best bet for an external hard drive that'll probably also be supported on a new laptop next year? What the heck are kids using these days?
And Mini PCIExpress slots... I haven't bought an expansion since PCMCIA days. I saw a desktop PCIExpress card the other day and it totally blew my mind. When did we stop using ISA?
 
10 years ago?
 
@rene More like 20, lol.
@AmalMurali Damn, it got reopened before I could cast delete vote #7.
 
@JasonC: Why should it be deleted? :P
 
@AmalMurali Dupe the other one, then?
 
5:26 PM
Let's now close this question as a duplicate of the one that got reopened now.
 
@AmalMurali Because the first non-SO result on Google is the PHP manual, and the SO post just gets in the way of up-to-date manual information. That question should have been downvoted into oblivion to begin with for being poorly researched.
 
@JasonC: it was asked 5 years ago. The SO norms weren't that strict at that time.
 
@AmalMurali Right, which is why it should have stayed open then, and should be deleted now. It currently just adds noise to the internet by taking up two Google search result slots and regurgitating information found in the third result.
 
@JasonC The first non-SO result on google is some forum post from 2006 that's not even close to being useful nowadays
Google results aren't the same for everyone.
 
5:29 PM
@3ventic First result for "php get remote ip", third result for "php get client ip", in both cases, easily visible, and the manual is the proper source for information. Again, SO should not be a PHP Manual mirror.
 
The manual is the last result on the first page for me
 
@3ventic For what query? (Just out of curiosity)
 
The one you linked
And usually php.net is the first result on anything that includes "php" for me, weird...
 
This question ranks first for both the queries. Manual link is #3 and #4 respectively.
 
@AmalMurali That's my point. This question takes up the first result slot with information that is not only easily findable, but always up-to-date, in the next results.
 
5:32 PM
 
@3ventic That is strange; even when I log out of my Google account it is still in the top 5.
 
@JasonC: The question has useful information and links to the manual too.
 
Let me see how it looks through my VPS
 
@JasonC Isn't the point of SO to build up a collection of knowledge not found elsewhere? Why don't we want SO in search results? That makes no sense...
 
> not found elsewhere
 
5:33 PM
Well... does the manual really have everything in those answers?
 
It's allegedly easy to find from the manual
 
@hichris123 Yes, the point is to build up a collection of knowledge not found elsewhere.
 
@JasonC: In that case, we should also delete the countless duplicates of this question.
 
@AmalMurali Agreed.
 
And every other basic question.
 
5:35 PM
@hichris123 Agreed.
 
2775
Q: What's the difference between 'git pull' and 'git fetch'?

J. Pablo FernándezWhat's the difference between git pull and git fetch in Git?

^ Easily googleable, why not delete it?
... NO. Why would we delete stuff that apparently everyone searches for, and finds easily on SO?
 
We already have numerous duplicates of this question spread out on the entire site. The question is too basic, and lacks research efforts. But it's popular, has a top position in Google search results and getting a lot of views daily.
 
I think I need a link to the manual entry that answers it..
 
@hichris123 That particular question has enough votes to be considered for "historical significance", even if it is a crap question that should be deleted.
Anyways I'm getting sucked into debates here; I gotta get back to work, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Later guys!
 
multiline messages + markdown = bad
 
5:38 PM
>Before voting to delete, please check that there are no good answers; if so, then the question should be flagged for moderator attention as a potential merge candidate. We don't like to lose great answers!
In this case, there is a good answer. And if the question is deleted, the answer is gone, too.
Anyway, see ya. :)
Oh looks like @animuson took care of it. :)
 
Merged, deleted all the crappy "check var_dump($_SERVER)" answers and some repeats, cleaned up comments.
 
@animuson: There's this one too.
 
\o
 
I won't merge that one. Lots of repeated info there, from some of the same users on the other question even.
 
In that question, the answer by Emil is the same as the one here.
@animuson: Yeah, you're right. What should be done instead? Close?
 
5:45 PM
I just nuked that question. Too must copy-pasting from the other one.
 
\o/
Can you now add that as an answer to this question?
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Q: What to do if there are multiple duplicate questions, all having good answers?

Amal MuraliI recently came across these questions: How to get Client IP address in PHP? How do I find a user's IP address with PHP? How can I get the client's IP address in a PHP webservice? All of them are asking the exact same thing. The first question is the first hit for "user ip php" (and many othe...

So I can accept it :P
 
oh wow mod can do anything
 
@hichris123: Clean up process completed in 30 seconds. Awaiting next order. Beep
:P
 
posts another one for the garbage man to clean up
@AmalMurali That would be a great bot. :P
 
5:57 PM
I only hopped on here because I just got my 6th gym badge and was taking a break. :P
 
... no excuse @animuson. :P
You still have your diamond, wherever you are.
 
Pokemon doesn't have a diamond badge. :(
 
darn it @animuson, wait till I flag stuff!!
 
Maybe keep this one around, but close it? stackoverflow.com/questions/739561/…
rofl, @animuson did we overload you?
 
Too many links. I keep losing track of where I'm at.
 
Ah! Spam mail!
 
6:01 PM
I totally need to go review close votes, so I don't run out for the day before I do my 40.
 
How about nuke this one? stackoverflow.com/questions/659595 It only has a link to an external blog post and offers nothing valuable to the site. Any visitor would have to come here and then go to that link, only to find out it doesn't contain anything much useful.
 
tool recommendation @hichris123
 
@rene: Exactly the edit I was planning to make ;) It's like you are reading my mind :D
 
sorry for the edit pings...
 
6:05 PM
@rene True. I guess it was unclear also, as I couldn't figure that out. :P
Nuked now.
 
Hmm, do we need to keep questions like this: stackoverflow.com/questions/1922405/…
 
Hooray for the internet!
without which we would presumably not know everyone else here.
 
@AmalMurali Nah, I'd say nuke it.
 
@rene Is reviewing the CV queue slow for you?
 
6:12 PM
yeah somewhat
 
Same here.
 
That's why I hop in here now and then...
 
I'm getting ~3 seconds from button press to next review task.
 
On weekends everything is slower and it might be raining in NY
 
6:15 PM
it is not much slow here
 
6-8 seconds for the next task for me
@TGMCians are you filtered on a tag and a reason?
 
yes
my favorite tag
 
lol
 
lot of more work to do on this tag
 
How old are the questions you get?
 
6:17 PM
@TGMCians I have nothing left in except for duplicates.
 
@hichris123 wow
 
@rene Just started , got today questions of one hour back
great hichris
 
Yeah. :D
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [android]"
 
@TGMCians recent questions get quicker served...
 
hmm
 
6:24 PM
@TGMCians I have a still sort-of open bug on load times: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/221614/…
 
I see
 
done
done 20, will do half later
 
6:37 PM
@JanDvorak yep flagged!
 
@TheDoctor what a strange downvote reason for a question that is entirely impossible to understand ;-) — Jan Dvorak 15 secs ago
 
@hichris123 aaand gone. TY
 
@rene I'd like to
 
6:42 PM
@JanDvorak That question is... strange.
 
@hichris123 I think the question is intentionally incomprehensible / nonsensical
 
@animuson would like to have a word if you are around
 
damn, this title didn't sound english to me at first reading.
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Q: store path of photo in db in laravel

retrogradeI am attempting to add a logo to a user profile, and I am doing this through two models (contractor and logo) and a one-to-one relationship. I am getting the logo to upload properly to uploads/logos, but I am failing to store anything in my logo table. I am note sure what I am overlooking, an...

 
@JanDvorak You're right, it's not enlish. :P
 
@hichris123 Did I say "enlish"?
 
6:45 PM
Yes, you did
 
flags this conversation as obsolete :P
 
@hichris123 accepted / no-action :-)
@rene meh...
 
13 secs ago, by hichris123
Wait, lemme test something...
Huh.
That's... weird.
 
23 secs ago, by Jan Dvorak
18 secs ago, by Jan Dvorak
12 secs ago, by Jan Dvorak
Whatever is true at the time the quote is posted applies
 
6:49 PM

 Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...
 
19 secs ago, by 3ventic

 Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features without upsetting anyone
 
Anyone upset?
 
@rene I'm not
 
The sandbox is upset.
It is sad that you choose not to post in there. ;)
 
6:57 PM
@animuson I'm looking for an elected moderator to ask a few questions if you have a few minutes to collaborate for a paper I'm writing
 
Perhaps migration flags should be handled by the target site's moderators?
 
^ That's the first set of flags that appears for us in the "other" category.
 
If the one who flags it is not even sure ... don't migrate crap
 
should general migration flags be implemented, then?
 
7:04 PM
You could have a specific migrate flag with a mandatory explanation field that must conatin at least 200 chars explaining why that question is good for migration...
 
There have been a bunch of ideas. My personal favorite was adding the Migration Queue to let the destination site's community decide whether the question should ultimately be migrated, and leave a "pending migration" notice on the source site until it's decided.
 
I love that
what meta post should I upvote?
 
From a qualitive perspective the best idea
 
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Q: Pipe migrated questions to the review queues of the destination site

Manishearth Related: Remove all migration targets except Meta Stack Overflow , Add review queue for recent migrations , Suggested migrations review at target site I've seen that quite a few sites have a high rejected percentage for migrations from SO (as well as from SU at times, I can't remember the ex...

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Q: Suggested migrations review at target site

gnatFor more control over incompetent migrations (see example complaints in posts tagged migration-rejection), would it make sense to try a new kind review? I would call it suggested migrations queue Located at target site, it would contain a list of questions flagged / voted for migration. Target ...

 
You run the risk that the migration queue becomes on lower traffic sites what the close vote queue is for SO...
 
7:06 PM
Well, you wouldn't need to use 5 people on the destination site to accept it. Only 2 or 3.
 
Interesting: all my migration flags have been declined (they were made months ago, IIRC). Now I know why!
If any moderator feels like they're ready to nuke some posts, take a look at this message (and the ones below it):
1 hour ago, by Amal Murali
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4612110/php-framework-help?rq=1
 
-1
A: I want a code to detect the phone number of the user on android

DrLudwig3tried searching stackoverflow ? How can I programmatically obtain the number of the Android phone with the API? It was the first google result by searching for "android sdk get phone number" Maybe you should try a little harder next time ...

@Bart ^
 
7:24 PM
Where is @Bart? What happened to that snazzy guy?
 
@JanDvorak rofl
 
@jadarnel27: perhaps finally working on his ideas rather than chatting here.
:-)
 
@Jan So you think this room is spam, eh? :P
 
7:26 PM
@hichris123 my CTRL+C is broken again :-)
 
... and people say users shouldn't require to have an account to be able to post a question.
 
people say many things. :-)
 
I want to buy some real/fake US passports!
 
Few spam flags already push a question out of the front page..
 
8:03 PM
@LaszloPapp Are we talking about the same Bart? =P
 
:D
Hmm, I saw a function name called "thingify" :D
 
8:54 PM
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A: How to use GROUP_CONCAT in a CONCAT in mysql

user3476663Agradezco la información aquí recibida, ha sido de gran ayuda para resolver algo similar a una referencia cruzada, Ya que yo necesitaba una VIEW lo he solucionado con el script de abajo considerando que del mismo evento solo guardo un dato para el mismo objeto y con esta consulta se puede crear ...

is the comment enough or I should also remove the non-english part?
 
heh, under that answer there is a meaningless deleted post from bluefeet.
 
10:11 PM
Question : do you think this should be closed stackoverflow.com/questions/22737456/…
 
@animuson Could you please delete this?
 
flagged
@hichris123 see my above question
 
I already flagged it; dunno how but it got dismissed as helpful.
@TGMCians Yeah, I just VTC it. Not for SO, but it would be a great blog post.
 
I agree
 
This is off-topic for Stack Overflow. However, I'd suggest creating a blog post or a forum topic on another site about it, as it would be a good topic to discuss and keep avaiable for people to watch the I/O talks. — hichris123 30 secs ago
 
10:16 PM
upvoted your comment
 
Gah. :P
 
:)
 
3 hours ago, by Jan Dvorak
@hichris123 my CTRL+C is broken again :-)
^ Applies to me now. :P
 
lol
@hichris123 deleted
> TGMCians 4 mins ago helpful
 
@hichris123 It was deleted via review because Community cast an auto VLQ flag on it, and the OP undeleted it.
 
10:19 PM
@animuson Another one of those cases? Seems to be more common now (I saw Shog's answer).
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A: Answers deleted via Recommend Deletion votes in review should not be undeletable by the answerer

Shog9The reason this hasn't been fixed yet is twofold: It doesn't happen that often Fixing it in the way you describe requires stuffing reviewers names into the deletion record - that is, we can't just attribute the deletion to Community, or undeletion is locked. It might actually make more sense to...

^ That one
 
I'm not overly opposed to them being undeletable, but it should at least raise another auto-flag on the post so that moderators can look and see if it should be undeleted.
 
Yeah... I dunno.
It seems like it doesn't happen too often...
 
@Shog9 Now that we have that new "disputed low quality review" flag, can we use it for this purpose? The OP undeleting their answer is like disputing the reviewers, so whenever this happens, why not raise an auto-flag so that a moderator can take a peek at it? That way the undeletion doesn't just go unnoticed since all the flags have been cleared. — animuson ♦ 9 secs ago
Hrm... Where's that one-click-decline user script when you need it?
 
@animuson I can just see you "accidentally" declining every flag on one page of the mod queue. Ooops!
 
Going through the "disputed low quality review" page, they'd probably all be correct.
 
10:31 PM
one more vote
thnx @animuson
 
@animuson Can Community be flag-banned? :P
 
10:52 PM
Probably not.
I've declined like 50 of its flags and it's not even warned when flagging. xP
 
@animuson Maybe it flags too much? :P
 
@hichris123 helpful flags 11140 (1853)
 
@animuson 11140 out of how many?
 
The number in the parentheses is the declined number. ;P
 
That's actually not that many flags.
I've even flagged ~3k posts/comments.
 
10:57 PM
Well the only comments Community has ever flagged are the ones other users flagged before they got deleted.
 
... I love flagging comments on deleted posts. :P
 
Community doesn't generate as many auto-flags as you might think.
But when users get deleted, all of their flag history gets moved over to the Community user.
 
That makes sense.
 
Alright. I'm off to my friend's house to play Pokemon.
Lame. The new disputed low quality review auto-flags don't count towards the moderator flag-handling statistics. @AnnaLear Fix Please!
 
cya
 
11:04 PM
@animuson I don't wish to be a tattle-tale but this is genuinely offensive:

 Lounge<C++>

Today we're daydreaming about C++26 reflection
(C++ room) ^
 
At least one of the people who can see flags, also needs a timeout:
 
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