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2:00 PM
I have no idea
but if this is still about your draft, again: it was never stored in the first place
I'd also appreciate a little less of a "stack exchange people look down on us mere mortals" attitude
 
key values are swapped out of memory to make redis fast. aof format is an append format. So it would likely be in the aof file.
 
if there was a reasonably easy way to help you I would, but there isn't
 
Ok balpha, in that case I demand service. NOW!
:)
better?
 
@CoolHandLouis with the time you spent on this now, couldn't you have re-written the whole thing?
P.s. if you demand service, better get out your wallet :p
 
@Bart: oh, I saw your favourite declined the other day, too
"Google for Foo".
 
2:06 PM
Well yes. But I didn't know it wasn't an easy fix. Then rene encouraged me to think outside the box (so rene's to blame!) then I didn't know it was stored in Redis. And hey I like technology and was told there's no log file so as a typical programmer I thought "maybe there is some kind of logging. So I asked on redis IRC because rediis is kewl opensource and they said only if they used aof format.. so... and so....
<-- last was reply to @Bart
And why would I want to go ask a silly question when it's so much more fun in here? ;)
 
If there is one thing the Tavern is not @CoolHandLouis, it's fun. The Tavern is Brown, true ... but fun ...
 
hmmm is that official stackexchange policy?
 
Jeff Atwood on January 04, 2010

I noticed that the Stack Overflow question Strangest language feature has been closed and reopened several times now. The text of the question is brief:

What is in your opinion the most surprising, weird, strange or really “WTF” language feature you have encountered?

I agree this is not exactly an ideal question for Stack Overflow, per the FAQ:

Avoid asking questions that are subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. This is not a discussion board, this is a place for questions that can be answered! …

sort of
 
Exactly what I was referring to
 
And as for Brown ...
 
2:16 PM
@balpha That's for the q/a boards. Chat is for issues that require discussions. I don't see the clown that says no fun in chat... (if there isn't one, I guess I'll hafta open a request for it and see if it gets voted up... or down)
:)
 
@CoolHandLouis Keep me out of that! :-)
 
Oh you're the one that started it rene.. with all your... helpful and happy attitude... ;)
Ok thanks again everyone. Back to the Q/A edit boards...
 
@Bart thanks for fixing my fixes. That had so much wrong in it...
 
Ha, you're welcome @Oded. I was already at it when you saved your version.
 
Hehe. That couldn't get edited fast enough ;)
 
2:23 PM
@balpha Shouldn't that be an hint for opening a fun-questions/random though board and end this discussion once and for all?
 
@Bart Thanks for spreading the brown.
Okay, after reading that again, it looks weird.
 
/me resists the temptation ....
 
By the way, @Oded (since you're here), that $diety thing cracked me up the other day. Definitely going to steal that.
 
Glad to be of amusement - can't say it was original
 
Haha, well it was original to me =P
I just finally got Visual Studio installed on my machine yesterday.
It is kind if sad that not having that for a whole week didn't really disrupt my ability to do my job.
 
2:32 PM
Being Master of Brown?
 
@LaszloPapp looks like a pretty obvious case for deletion to me (both the Q and A), but I'm curious to know if you post on meta
 
Well yeah, @Oded. But additionally I do web development.
And of course, the first web app I try to launch locally throws a permissions error. Probably because I don't have admin rights? Probably.
Or...possibly.
 
Ha! I went to a workshop a few months ago. Actually using a windows laptop was quite quaint (looking at everyone else' puters)
Yeah - VS throws a hissyfit if the site is on IIS and VS isn't running as admin.
 
Well shucks.
 
Can use IIS Express without a problem though
 
2:37 PM
Heh, that's why I said "well shucks" - that's what I'm doing =)
I think I see what the problem is now.
They changed our "my documents" to, by default, point to a NAS location.
And I must not have the right permissions on the NAS. It says VS can't access the web.config out there.
 
That would do it.
 
Hmmm, but I can browse there.
 
If using IIS, make sure that the application pool identity has the right permissions (or change to your account)
 
I'm still just trying to get it to launch from VS (asp.net dev server / IIS Express). I just tried copying the project to a local folder, and I'm getting a different error. So that's...progress?
=)
 
Make sure of permissions in the local folder.
 
2:48 PM
Yeah, I repropogated them when I copied, to be safe.
Thanks for all your suggestions, @Oded =)
 
@jadarnel27 you could try to start VS elevated if you have not done that yet to see if that helps...
 
@BenCollins: OK, I will post this tonight on meta after the work hours.
 
No prob
 
I'm sure I'll get this figured. I'll stop bugging everyone with my debugging in here =)
@rene No admin rights, not even locally =/
 
Ouch
 
2:52 PM
A dev with no admin rights? ... grrrr
 
Yeah. Talk to corporate (like a boss).
It's a "feature" with our new laptops.
We are not burdened with the heavy responsibility of admin rights.
 
@Bart hahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahhhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah‌​ahahahahahaaaha
 
What's funny @SPArchaeologist?
 
@Bart I had to attempt SharePoint solutions deployments without a farm admin account.... or write permission on 12/14/15 folders :P
 
@jadarnel27 feature .. right ..
 
2:56 PM
Better I don't tell you some of the response I got when I asked for the correct account.
@Bart Something along the lines of "Why? it is actually needed?? we lost it!"
 
Ah the joys of working at a small foundation. No such crap to deal with.
 
Indeed, @Bart. Indeed. My first two jobs out of college were like that (less than 50 employees, very laid back, no restrictions on the devs).
 
If I would take a picture of my office right now @jadarnel27, you would see my two colleagues making up the entire company. ;) Absolutely lovely. And we do awesome stuff on top of that.
 
3:12 PM
Where's my application, @Bart? Do you pay relocation? =P
 
Ha, I'll let you know once we have an opening @jadarnel27.
 
3:29 PM
For anyone who was still interested, there was identity impersonation configured in the web.config for this app. Silliness. I can now launch web apps from VS without admin rights!
 
Yeah \o/
 
Haha, thank you for sharing in my excitement, @rene.
 
np
 
Right after I tried that, I found a Stack Overflow post that said the same thing.
 
Stack Overflow, you say? What's that?
 
3:35 PM
something like Yahoo answers
 
Hahaha
 
It's more of a wannabe Experts Exchange @rene. I know a user who could explain that to you in full detail.
 
All those copy-cats
 
I still can't get this junk to work over the NAS, but I don't care to try any further.
 
How do you access the nas?
Is it mapped to a drive letter?
 
3:42 PM
No, it's via UNC path (in think that's what it's called). \\somestuff\yourstuff\
It's odd the way that have it set up. When I click on "documents," it takes me to the NAS by default.
 
Ahhh, you could try to do a net use p: \\somestuff\yourstuff
And then access P: as if it is a local drive
I hope net use doesn't require admin privs
 
Hmmm. That might work.
 
It might be that the network file system still reports it is a network drive. In that case I have a final trick: subst m: p: and then m: should be a local drive.
 
ooh ... I'll have to try that with something else ...
 
@rene I will try that later, and let you know how it goes =)
 
3:53 PM
OK
 
4:18 PM
lol. OP trolling answerer on this thread (10K+ link)
 
Yeah, I'm one of the close voters on that one.
A lof of answers on that question...
 
I'm trying to imagine why this question has 4 close votes.
I just came across it in the CV queue and gave it a "leave open."
 
@jadarnel27 Heh. They are months apart (and there is even one that aged away).
 
Is it a programming question though?
 
It is either too broad or move this crap to dba.se
 
4:32 PM
Seems to be more about server maintenance and optimization than programming
 
Yep
More of a question about ETL options than programming.
Too old to migrate though.
 
Can I still shake my fist at it @Oded?
 
Shake away @bart, shake away
 
it is gone
 
@Bart Does every Stack Overflow question need to be a programming question now? =)
 
4:36 PM
@jadarnel27 either that or a recommendation question
 
Why were some of my link-only answer flags (NAA) declined? Similar flags used to be marked as helpful in the past -- not sure why this sudden change. Can someone clarify?
 
Right, @Bart.
 
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Q: Can we get some consensus on what flag to use for link only answers?

Manishearth Related: Since moderators are just asking users to flag a custom "Link only answer," can we permanently make this a flag option? (not a dupe, that's a feature request and was closed as a dupe of another one) This (old) post does indeed say that Link-only answers can be flagged as NAA, bu...

 
I think that question fits "practical, answerable problems that are unique to software development." ETL techniques, database optimization, etc is something programmers have to deal with. And I don't think the existence of DBA.SE is a good reason to close a year old question on SO.
But...it's been slowly gathering close votes over time. So what do I know.
 
@jadarnel27 but those questions would be a perfect fit if it would ask how to export data and show what the current problem is with the etl script. That question was nothing more than 4 points from the whiteboard without a clue were to start. That needs work first. After that it can go on SO or on DBA.se IMO.
did I just managed to post that twice?
 
4:46 PM
Yes you did.
Yes you did.
 
Extra rep for me!
 
@Bart: Ah, thanks for that link. Couldn't find it in my searches. So now, if I see a link-only answer, I should use the custom flag reason to flag it? And optionally comment on the answer, suggesting the answerer to include the relevant sections in the answer...
 
@rene Why extra rep? Have you stolen my Reputation Tree that I have put in my garden???
 
BUT... It is mine. How could you...
 
Every chat message is 1 rep isn't it?
 
4:49 PM
@rene I disagree. It's not just 4 points from the whiteboard. He then explains why some of the options won't work, why some of them might work, etc. And then asks a specific question (is there another approach to accomplish this goal).
It looks like a well-written question about a problem faced by a programmer, with a good answer from a SQL expert.
 
So, folks who have delv privs... can you nuke this please: stackoverflow.com/questions/10905239/…
It's a stupid question I asked 2 years ago -- I don't think it's going to be useful for anyone ever.
 
@jadarnel27 Hmmmm, maybe I'm biased. I some idea's and opinions, they couldn't work it out and now we may fix it... but let's disagree on this one.
I'll try to be more open minded
@AmalMurali I can delete vote if you really want that...
Aren't some of the other answers useful for others?
 
@rene: Nope. Basically it's a dupe. Of this and a hundred others. Plus, the question hasn't got a lot of views. Only 500+ views in the last 2 years.
 
OK, I'll delete vote ..... done
 
Okay. I can't delete vote myself as it has an answer with a score of +1. I tried flagging it for moderator attention, but George Stocker marked it as a duplicate and didn't delete it. Not sure why though.
 
5:00 PM
@rene I'm cool with disagreeing on that one =) There are bugger things to worry about than some borderline question that's been viewed 100 times in the last year.
 
Evening everybody. Have a nice weekend (will try to drop a call if I have the time)
 
enjoy your weekend!
 
@SuhosinPony for the sake of everything good in the world DO NOT google the new "rainbow pony" design and cross your finger they change that.
 
*bigger. Man, I should really proofread.
 
Another question. What's the best thing to do if I'm being tactically downvoted? For example, kind of like two downvotes (on questions) per day.
Should I just flag one of my posts for moderator attention and explain the issue? Or send an email to Stack Exchange team? Or just ignore it and move on?
 
5:07 PM
Is 30 close vote reviews in less than 10 minutes...suspicious to anyone else? Or is that normal, and I'm just slow?
 
The last time this happened, I tried #1, but the flag was simply marked as helpful and no action taken (AFAIK).
 
If it really bothers you flag but I would move on
 
@SPArchaeologist Oh I saw rainbow ponies weeks ago
 
@jadarnel27 I have reached that speed once in a while.
 
Seem pretty meh :/
 
5:09 PM
@jadarnel27 mostly if I only hit tool recommendations
 
Right, I can see that being pretty straightforward, @rene.
 
@rene: A similar flag was marked "helpful" last time, but nothing was done. Any guesses why they did that?
 
They might have done something without you notifying?
based on the feedback I see in this room a lot of those cases are handled in private (mail) exchanges between CM's and a user.
 
Hmmm, apparently that SQL question is very borderline. Its pass through the reopen queue got it 3 "reopen"s, and 3 "leave closed"s.
 
5:28 PM
We already decided to disagree.. :-)
 
5:41 PM
are there audit flags in the 10k tools queue?
 
@JeroenVannevel Like?
 
@rene Like a perfectly answer that is thrown in there as audit
I don't have a concrete example, I'm just wondering if it exists
at the very least it could be used as feedback
 
I haven't seen one
 
I feel like plenty of valid answers are being flagged as 'NAA' by multiple people
throw in a few fake flagged posts and see how people flag it. Could be useful to present some actual concrete feedback to those who flag it
just a thought
 
That's three people so far coming in here to talk about NAA flags just today.
(not at all criticizing anyone, just an observation)
 
6:17 PM
My English is weak. Can someone please suggest a better title for this question?
 
@AmalMurali I assume that PHP would have substring functions, you could use those.
 
Like substr()? I don't think that's going to be a very clean approach.
 
The question, as is, is rather vague. You probably need to add a couple of examples.
 
@devnull: In case you didn't notice, it's not my question :P
 
@AmalMurali Oh, I realize it now. You answered it :)
 
6:25 PM
can a CM step up here? is becoming a carnage
 
You did your best. Explained using pictorial representation... Move on, don't bother.
 
@devnull Yeah. I was trying to improve the question title -- I made an edit, but not quite sure if the new title conveys what the OP was originally trying to accomplish.
 
@Braiam not sure it needs a CM yet
 
@devnull Best answer: Forever
 
6:30 PM
then again, I'm now nearing the end of the comment thread on the question. whoa.
 
@AnnaLear: Sorry to ping you. But what do you think is the best thing to do when someone's being downvoted in a tactical manner? (Say, 2 downvotes per day, along with other votes)?
 
@AmalMurali if you just get two downvotes, do nothing. if you see a prolonged pattern, contact the community team via /contact and ask them to investigate.
We generally try to avoid messing with how people vote, but it can't hurt to take a closer look.
 
@AnnaLear I prefer that it doesn't escalate
 
@Braiam I passed it on to the comm team, and I'm keeping half an eye on the comments. The best thing for you to do is disengage at this point.
terdon's comment is basically what I'd say, so let's see how that works out.
 
@AnnaLear I have an unanswered question: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/223519/…
 
6:34 PM
> It wont take much time before all of this is closed and I start ignoring you, so I recommend we stop it and leave it as it is since you already have 2 answers to your idea. – Bruno Pereira♦
Yikes.
 
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Q: Protecting a question shows mistaken authorship in Google search results

apsillersToday, I was searching on Google for a resource on viewing the JavaScript console in various browsers. As it turns out, there was a good overview on Webmasters.SE: "Thanks, John Conde!" I thought to myself, as I clicked through to the excellent comprehensive resource. But wait -- John Conde d...

@AnnaLear: Is this something you guys are aware of? Or is it allowed?
 
@devnull "yes, they work. yes, they're everywhere. no, they're not a blind 'X votes in Y minutes' check."
that's the short version
I'll try to drop by meta with a proper answer before too long.
 
@AnnaLear ok, thanks! (I was actually surprised due to multiple upvotes on different questions within a couple of minutes.)
 
@AmalMurali "Not sure" and "not sure". :)
 
"Not sure" if that's a worth a bounty :P
 
6:44 PM
Nah
Bounties on MSO can help draw attention to something, but you sort of did the same thing already by posting here. No developer is gonna go "A bounty on meta?? Let me drop everything and investigate immediately!" ;)
then again... meta rep is pretty important... brb, dropping everything.
 
Meta rep is ridiculously easy to come by, imo
 
I semi-fondly recall the day when MSO became my top-rep site.
 
I fondly remember when my SO rep was higher than my MSO rep.
 
Ah. SE automatically adds rel="me" for the 'Website' link.
And Conde links back to Stack Overflow on his Google+ profile.
 
6:57 PM
Activity on SO at times leads me to wonder what would happen if rep could be traded for bitcoins.
 
@AnnaLear thanks for stepping in. Hope you did not just step in it :)
 
@terdon Wouldn't be the first time. :)
 
Comes with the territory I'd imagine.
 
Quite.
 
It does satisfy the requirements for authorship to work. I should probably experiment this soon. :>
 
6:59 PM
@terdon Thanks for leaving well-reasoned comments as well.
 
:)
 
What do you think about this comment?
$lotsofasians?? — RUJordan 2 mins ago
I personally think it's rude, but wanted to make sure it's not just me.
 
Rude? How so? It quotes the code in the question ...
 
@Bart: OOOOH. Right. I thought it was a racist comment :P lol
/me goes to get moar coffee
 
:) Based on just your quote I thought the same. But given the code in the question, the comment makes sense.
 
7:14 PM
@AmalMurali and promise to don't use align ever again! :-)
 
Well, there are more Asians then anyone else. So it could just be factual.
 
So you're saying it's a boolean @jadarnel27? lotsofasians == true ?
 
@rene: lol. I know it's deprecated and all. I wanted to ask "is this what you tried: <code here>" but that's not what I actually typed in my comment.
 
You need moar coffee in that case :-)
 
Or far less
 
7:16 PM
@Bart Right! You get it now.
 
If that is a boolean why iterate over it?
 
@jadarnel27 you want some too? " Asians then anyone else. " xD
 
@rene stop questioning Asians. This is above your skill level.
 
FILE_NOT_FOUND
 
@Amal After saying your English is weak, you have now corrected my silly typo. Well played. Perhaps I do need more coffee =)
@rene You haven't really programmed until you iterate over a Boolean. This is where the Matrix is hidden.
 
7:22 PM
@jadarnel27 The Identity Matrix.
 
Here you go: hands the coffee up to @jadarnel27... D[_]
 
@AnnaLear That made me actually laugh out loud haha.
 
:D
 
@AmalM What did you put in this coffee? It tastes like whiskey. And you know what that stuff does to me.
 
Oh boy, I will have to flag @jadarnel27's obscene pictures in a moment, won't I?
 
7:24 PM
@jadarnel27 Enum.GetValues(typeof(bool))?
 
@Bart You don't have to flag anything ;-)
 
@rene {true, false, whateverthewifesays}
Okay, that's it. I'm watching Roger Rabbit again ...
 
lol
 
Oh my gawd. Why do people abuse backticks so much?
 
7:36 PM
what do you mean?
 
For example: Source < this is a usual sight on the PHP tag
 
Abuse backticks?
 
/highfive @Bart
 
/highfive
 
7:36 PM
Look at this answer, for example:
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A: PHP $this when not in object context for set public variable from out of class

Nambi NarayananSource Because static methods are callable without an instance of the object created, the pseudo-variable $this is not available inside the method declared as static. You can't use $this inside a static function, because static functions are independent of any instantiated object. Try ma...

 
@AnnaLear "This video is not available in your country." - super lame.
 
@jadarnel27 Lame. Search for "roger rabbit takes a drink".
 
@jadarnel27 PG rated maybe?
 
@Anna Hahaha, I remember that scene now!
@rene Not sure. I wonder if it has to do with the uploader.
I was able to find by searching (as Anna suggested).
The YouTube app is strange.
 
^^^. I watch YT videos from Chrome on my phone.
 
7:47 PM
The search results are usually totally different between the app and browser when I do the same search.
(for instance)
 
Oh, but that could be that their api is querying not the live content db but a secondary copy.
 
Quite possible. But it makes for a strange, if not bad, user experience.
 
They might for some reason want to load-balance...
@jadarnel27 maybe the content targetting is not only per person and region but as well per device
did the functionality for associating SEDE accounts as explained here actually take place?
 
8:02 PM
@AmalMurali - It doesn't look too bad; that being said, if it was a suggested edit to make the source backticked, I'd reject it in a heartbeat.
 
@ChrisForrence: see this answer, this answer, this comment
This comment, this one, well... take a look at the comments history for this user.
 
Eh. Whatever floats their boat
 
Where is @animunson? We need him here! NAOW
 
8:19 PM
Meow.
 
8:50 PM
@rene Here! I'll work on it soon.
 
OK
 
Friday night is my coding time. :P
 
don't forget the close vote event in 10 minutes
 
Ooh, it is?
See you there soon!
 
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Q: Allow post-banned users to edit their removed answers/questions

Ty221I've got a question ban on Stack Overflow. Some of my questions with very low votes have been deleted by moderators. I have a list of them. I wanted to improve them and then vote to undelete it, but I got the following message: Post is deleted. Unable to edit I think that banned users shou...

 
9:11 PM
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Q: Which laptop will be best for me?

Rajesh KI have to choose between 2 laptops. Which one would be the best in terms of performance? 3rd Gen Ci5/ 4GB/ 750GB 24GB SSD/ Win8 3rd Gen Ci3/ 4GB/ 500GB 24GB SSD/ Win8/ 2GB Graphic card nVidia Which will be more better in terms of performance? I am a networking engineer and will need to use ap...

 
@Seth "How can I close you? Let me count the ways..."
 
9:26 PM
.. done today work
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 2 hours to continue reviewing.
 
Yeah, and I didn't had enough questions matching my filter
handling and in the end
That last tag closes a lot of php questions as well...
 
9:45 PM
Yay, back up!
 
just me or SE is lagging?
 
@Braiam Nope, me too.
Stack Overflow is down again. Sweet.
^^
(no, that's not me)
 
But hey, chat works fine
 
it wasn't...
 
@AnnaLear and delete you ;P
 
10:31 PM
Where is the question about notifying users when their post is closed?
 
@Seth I have a dupe about it..
 
oh cool. Could you pull it up?
 
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Q: Send authors an inbox message if their question gets closed

TheLQI think it would really help if you get notified that a question of yours was closed. Especially for the multi-site power user, usually (at least for me) a question is asked and then left alone for while. I rely on the network-wide inbox to tell me when someone has commented or answered, but if ...

 
aha
thanks.
 
When looking over reviews I have completed, am I always going to get the entire review-history? As in reviews by other users on same question/answer.
 
10:36 PM
@user13500 yes
 
yes
 
OK. Thanks. Wondered if it was a useful way of quality-checking my own reviews. As there is quite a few where I'm the only one, perhaps not as much ...
 
10:49 PM
Is there a list for reviews I have skipped?
 
@user13500 only after you get 10k reputation
 
L2G
If someone who posts a bounty on a question publicly admonishes people for "gaming the answers," what does that mean? Is making more than one edit to an answer perceived as gaming?
 
@Braiam: Too bad :) Would have thought that to be a nice way to educate one self (Look back on skipped reviews to see what action finally was taken.)
 
11:03 PM
@Undo I'll talk in here then. :P
 
11:23 PM
Flagged this as "Not an answer" as I thought it was more suited as a comment, if anything, and not even that as it is redundant. All it does is confirm accepted answer. It was however disputed, which is fair enough. My question is if I should flag similar answers? Should I perhaps use comment instead of "Not an answer"? Only leave comment?
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A: Edit Site List not under JAVA > Security

anonRemoving older versions of Java works just fine

 
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