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5:04 PM
I was wondering because I failed a review audit yesterday and I believed the post should actually be closed, so I voted to close it, and now I wonder if it's going through the review queue and being marked "leave open" or not reviewed yet by anybody or not in the queue at all.
 
@KevinPanko Can't you look back in your reviewing history?
 
@hichris123 I can do that to find the failed audit, yes. But I want to see if other people agree that it should be closed. I could watch the question every few hours and see if it gets any votes.
 
Oh, I get what you mean.
 
5:30 PM
I think I might have just figured out how you can get Eureka!
 
@RyanCarlson Eureka!
 
You have to figure out how to get it.
 
@RyanCarlson You want a logon for Charcoal, @Undo
 
So how do you get Eureka..?
 
Ah, right
 
5:32 PM
How do you get Eureka?
 
1 min ago, by RyanCarlson
You have to figure out how to get it.
 
I still don't even know how to get the unicorn hat.
 
@JoshC Hint: peanuts
 
Which one's the unicorn one, the one I'm wearing?
 
Yeah
 
5:34 PM
@JoshC The unicorn was already covered in so.meta
 
Oy @RyanCarlson
Want a logon?
 
@JoshC Other hint:
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A: How Do I Get the Winterbash 2013 Secret Hats?

jmac Chuck Yeager "from JBM to JWH" Ghost of Winterbash Past "I live... AGAIN!" I See Your Point "Earned ten of the most meaningless points on the 'Net" Before It Was Cool "He ain't no drag" Eureka! "Solve these riddles and it's yours" IG-88 "You may have to go to ...

@UndotheSnowman Sure
 
@RyanCarlson Send an email to beta@erwaysoftware.com - any email.
 
Who's starring everything?
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waves
I have to keep caught up with my starring, @hichris123!
 
5:37 PM
You didn't star Shog's rant.
Did you see that?
 
@UndotheSnowman Done.
 
Awesome.
Now, open up MySQL and manually add you in.
grumbles to self about decent registration system
 

Shog's rant

16 hours ago, 9 minutes total – 14 messages, 4 users, 6 stars

Bookmarked 12 secs ago by hichris123

 
@UndotheSnowman You mean I have to do that?
 
5:38 PM
No, he's doing it.
 
Ok
Good
 
@Undo Make a web signup, will you?
 
Yeah
@hichris123 At some point.
 
What are you guys doing with mySQL?
 
I'm too busy flagging comments.
 
5:38 PM
HELLO
 
With your new API.
 
@ElfSlice Hi!
 
How's it going?
 
@ElfSlice ¿Hola?
 
5:39 PM
@ElfSlice I just noticed that apparently you have KSP?
 
Ooo santa hats
@RyanCarlson Ah yes, were you that mysterious upvoter?
 
Yes
 
I haven't played it in quite a while.
 
Just made 10k on SO, I can't believe the size of the flag queue.
 
I got frustrated with the fact that I couldn't get anywhere in it.
I'm not smart enough for KSP
 
5:40 PM
@LanceRoberts Probably Undo's comment flags.
 
@LanceRoberts Gz on getting 10k
 
@hichris123 10kers can't see comment flags.
 
Really?
 
Is there a hat for comment flags?
 
I used to play it a lot though.
 
5:40 PM
That explains why it takes so long.
 
@LanceRoberts 50 flags is nothing.. before all the hats started, there were ~300+ flags in the 10k queue.
and yea.. that doesn't even include any of @UndotheSnowman comment flags.
 
I need to do my 95 for the day.
 
Just go to the late answers queue - you can get lots of NAN flags there.
 
You know, I feel like I add so much to the flag queue and CV queue, and just add them, but do nothing to help remove them since I don't have 10K, I don't have access to CV, I just flag.
@JoshC If you're quick enough.
 
About five minutes after posting
13 mins ago, by RyanCarlson
I think I might have just figured out how you can get Eureka!
I got a new hat
I was like WHOA!
 
5:44 PM
@RyanCarlson You should have your login.
 
Did I really just get the hat?
@UndotheSnowman Thanks
 
@RyanCarlson Do you have it?
 
@ElfSlice No
 
Ping me in Charcoal HQ to for help/bugs/whatever.
 
@RyanCarlson It's pretty neat.
 
5:45 PM
@hichris123 All you have to do is open the late answer reviews in a new tab. That's how I manage to get them before everyone else.
just control click
 
What do you mean?
Like refresh when there's something new script?
 
You see 5 late answer items in the queue.. just open all 5 in a new tab and you have them
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Oh...
 
then you don't have to rush though them while other people are doing them at the same time.. that's why people fail audits
 
That makes sense.
 
5:47 PM
I can manage to use all my reviews using that method. It's pretty easy.
 
Muahahahahaha @Undo... I know your real name now!
 
Does anyone here know an easy way to just get an API key & token? @9Shogsa-Shogging?
@RyanCarlson ;)
 
:) @Undo
 
Assuming that is your real name...
 
I know.
It is such a surprise.
 
5:48 PM
It may or may not be :P
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging Yeah, but then I still have to build something to do the OAuth dance. I just want something already built that would just let me push a button, go to the SE OAuth page, and give me my token.
 
@UndotheSnowman Erm. The API? The auth process is pretty simple.
 
6:03 PM
I am lazy :P
 
You basically just have to write that button.
 
Oh, I almost forgot
 
Ok, fine. writes code
There should be an easy debug thingy built in to api.se to do that.
 
@RyanCarlson Wow, you listened to the entire thing pretty quickly!
 
6:06 PM
@ElfSlice I know. I am just awesome like that.
 
@RyanCarlson This is pretty nice so far though, thanks.
 
Is there any way to write a webapp that would allow people to OAuth with it without me being able to impersonate them with their token?
 
@RyanCarlson What is this the soundtrack to?
 
Th Aether.
 
Link to whatever that is?
 
6:08 PM
Minecraft mod :P
 
Oh, it's for the Minecraft mod?
Huh. Didn't see that one coming.
 
Yeah
 
:P
 
 
@UndotheSnowman You have to have their token to send requests as them. It's on you to not be evil with it. If you do, we'll find out, shut you down, it'll be annoying for everyone involved.
 
6:09 PM
Oh.
 
ôヮô
 
@Undo Just give me a tool to OAuth. Plz give me teh OAuthz.
 
@hichris123 I'm trying to figure out how. I have an iOS app to do it, though.
 
Yeah, but I don't have iOS.
 
6:11 PM
;(
 
what are you trying to do?
 
Does anyone have a spare OSX key for me that I can create a virtual machine off of?
 
@ElfSlice (゚∀゚)
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging Comment flag via API. What else?
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging I have that webapp for obsolete comment flagging, and I'd like to be able to implement some type of (responsible) comment flagging within it without ever having to actually go to the site.
(and Chris just wants an OAuth token)
 
6:12 PM
Yep.
I don't feel like going through the OAuth dance.
 
keep in mind then, that actions will be tied to both your app and any authenticated users, so... mistakes can have repercussions for both.
 
Exactly.
 
That's a good thing.
 
Yes, it is.
@9Shogsa-Shogging Would there be any problems with me making myself a little cronjob that would take a list of about 10,000 comments to flag from me (all valid flags) and automagically flag them all throughout the day?
 
Isn't there a limit? For the user?
 
6:16 PM
@hichris123 Sure, but I think it's 100/day for me.
 
10,000 != 100
 
You could make the community user flag them xD
 
@hichris123 Over several days.
 
Ah.
 
The 100 flag limit needs to be increased. I can burn 100 easily.
 
6:18 PM
The mods would take issue with that.
 
I guess.
But hey, it's improving the community
 
@Undo you didn't happen to earn Eureka! by figuring out how to earn it? As in the requirement for getting the hat is figuring out how to get the hat.
 
@UndotheSnowman the potential problem here is that catching and correcting false-positives would be irritating in this scenario.
 
@RyanCarlson So if I claim that I know how to get Eureka! It will manually be awarded to me?
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging But if I can somehow mitigate that problem to an absolute minimum, there isn't a problem with flooding the flag queue(s) every day at 00:00?
Or spreading them throughout the day somehow?
 
6:19 PM
@JoshC That's my theory
 
@UndotheSnowman Every moderator will hate you.
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Well yes.
That's a given.
 
@AnnaLear Isn't that the point?
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@UndotheSnowman what's your mitigation strategy?
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging Manual sorting.
 
6:20 PM
I dunno, guys. As a former mod, I have zero sense of humour or patience for "haha lolz this will annoy diamonds".
 
What if every moderator already hates you?
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asking for a friend
 
@AnnaLear Hmmm...
I see your point.
 
@ElfSlice I think you still have 300-someodd mods to go. ;)
 
@AnnaLear ;]
 
@UndotheSnowman I mean, that is the problem here. If you can get very, very close to 100% accuracy, then there are all sorts of ways to solve the other, little problems like moderator load and @Anna hating your guts.
 
6:22 PM
@9Shogsa-Shogging I'm very confident that I can get very close. What kinds of ways are you thinking?
Me and Chris (if he wants to) could start out by manually adding things to my queue, then when we identify absolute, 99.99% accurate patterns, we can add those carefully.
 
@UndotheSnowman much more interested in how you're gonna get that accurate.
 
There is always a percentage error.
 
Machine learning minus the machine? :)
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging Well, I already have the webapp (which @hichris can attest is awful good at it), and I still have some optimizations to do.
But we would start out manual.
 
What kind of patterns are you planning to look for?
 
6:26 PM
@UndotheSnowman I mean, think about this for a minute: if I had a list of 10,000 comments that were all but guaranteed to be pure noise, I could just delete them all now and skip the whole flagging + flag-handling bit.
The value of that process isn't efficiency - it's the sanity-checking.
 
@AnnaLear I have gotten fairly good at recognizing obsolete comments and please-accept comments.
(the please-accept ones are way easier to automate)
@9Shogsa-Shogging I see your point.
 
So the way you're describing this app, where it batches up comment flags and then dispatches them at some later time... I think you're throwing away an opportunity to learn from that sanity-check and improve your process. Maybe that'll make sense at some point for some levels of confidence, but at present you're still under 90% accurate according to that app... So I wouldn't be too hasty.
 
@9Shogsa-Shogging My plan is to have the app automatically identify comments, put them in a queue, me review the queue, and bump the flaggable ones into my bucket.
And then find really really good patterns.
 
@ElfSlice sorry, listening to youtube.com/watch?v=8t2dwPTnsyA on repeat right now
 
6:31 PM
@AnnaLear Heh
 
Anyway, I'll experiment on it. At first I'll just manually put things in my bucket (so that I can queue up a bunch of things to flag on one day and let it use up my limit for the next week.)
 
@ElfSlice nice, but too loud to listen to with headphones :(
 
@AnnaLear Ah, yeah. Bandcamp could really use a volume control.
 
user219322
Merry Christmas everyone
 
Merry Christmas
 
6:44 PM
Merry Christmas
 
user219322
 
user219322
I have lot of gifts for everyone
 
user219322
 
Hats?
 
Hats.
 
user219322
7:22 PM
Santa tip of the day: You can use little magic of photoshop to wear virtually all hats in a day.
 
7:55 PM
I have two hats on right now
 
but I'm a unicorn dog
 
@ElfSlice A not listening Santa?
 
@hichris123 A santa listening to music
I know they're not actually headphones. But whatever.
Close enough
 
Not really...
 
CLOSE ENOUGH
 
8:03 PM
Not really...
 
They could be noise cancelling headphones
You don't know
 
Or do I?
@balpha What type of headphones are the I'm not Listening hat?
 
They're shooting muffs.
 
no u
They can be whatever I want them to be!
ಥ_ಥ
 
9:05 PM
Apparently I need to get a job instead of being on SO.. stackoverflow.com/a/18539501/2680216
 
@JoshC #lifehack
 
@AnnaLear Should I not comment on questions that appear in the VLC queue? I have apparently been upsetting people.
 
@JoshC Some folks will never be receptive to criticism (especially on older posts), , but it also might not be what you say, but rather how you say it. Instead of just saying "Consider adding an explanation to this. As it stands, this is just a line of coding. Just letting you know", explain why an explanation is better than just code. And "someone flagged it" is probably not enough of a motivator for most people.
Something like "More complete answers tend to be more helpful and attract upvotes and undying admiration from other users".
 
Alright, thanks. I guess I did word that poorly. I'll keep that in mind next time.
 
10:01 PM
Is there a special reason that weekly newsletters come on Tuesdays?
 
they go out 7 days after you subscribe. except weekends.
 
Weekly newsletters?
 
Oh, so it's tied to the day you subscribe, got it.
@hichris123 Yeah, not sure where I subscribed, though.
I think there's a link somewhere on the front page
 
I'll look.
 
or somewhere else
 
10:05 PM
stackexchange.com/newsletters
 
Mine's linked >:)
 
Thanks, both of you.
 
10:28 PM
Why am I getting sometimes on the API docs, just now on SO The website is too busy to show the webpage?
 
It's Christmas Eve. God. Can't a website have a little time to itself? ;)
 
No way, I needz my repz. I don't care that you want a holiday, server. And I wantz my hatz.
 
Hey, I'm at 1399 rep. So close to 1400.
 
So. Close.
 
10:40 PM
But yet so far.
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