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4:00 PM
@PopularDemand Our friend that got down-voted, looking at some of his answers, I am not surprised he was.
 
@Diago I found it funny that his question "why was I downvoted" was downvoted :-)
 
@Josh That's what happens if you take the internet too seriously.
 
Oh, interesting. I gave up on that long ago.
 
@Diago Wait, you mean there's more to life than the interwebs? OMG WTF!!!11
;-)
 
Seriously know, would any of you consider this a legitimate question:
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Q: What is the origin of the hard drive light?

RCIXIn practically every computer I've had, there's always been a light to display hard drive activity. What's it's origin and original use?

 
4:04 PM
@Josh Someone say something about a barbeque?
 
@Josh Right now I really wish it wasn't true, but it is.
 
@Diago It did get a nice answer
 
Erm. Quick. I need to hide. @balpha is here and he might want revenge
 
@Diago Hm... it's objective, it's about hardware... yeah, it's legit, even though I think it's silly.
 
@Diago Yeah it's pushing it, but with net +10 and a +26 answer, I have to say yes
 
4:06 PM
@Diago, I can't believe that question got 10 votes, though I liked the first answer. He must have really restrained himself not to get too sarcastic.
 
@LanceRoberts One of the few times we agree on something :) I so badly want to close it.... but I will let the community decide.
 
The community upvoted him 10 times...
 
If the community knew what was good for it, it wouldn't need or have moderators.
 
@badp Up-votes doesn't matter, it's also depends on the time of day it was posted. I have closed many questions with high up-votes, because a lot of time it's sympathy votes, or users that don't know the rules.
At the very least that should have been CW
 
@Diago revenge for what?
 
4:09 PM
Man, why is Joel's blog so full of good stuff? There must be a catch. Logical fallacies that none of us are seeing. Subliminal advertising. Something.
 
@balpha I've kinda been abusing the chat system in various... Well.. Interesting ways :)
 
OK, gotta head to a meeting and lunch. I'll catch you guys later!
 
@balpha Does it matter? There's got to be something that qualifies for a revenge beating. Just pick one later.
 
I might become the first user banned from chat
@PopularDemand Thanks. Great friends I have around here.
 
@Diago Second. I'll probably beat you ;-)
 
4:10 PM
@Diago So this is how you're going to get away from Jeff's attempts to keep you addicted, huh?
 
@PopularDemand LOL!
OK, gtg, bbs
 
@PopularDemand Don't give me ideas :)
 
@Diago No, Joel sticks strictly to the obvious fallacies and blatant advertising
 
@Shog9 I think you wanted me, with that reply.
(Or are you going to stick to your guns because you're never wrong?)
 
@PopularDemand yeah
 
4:12 PM
I was just about to ask....... WTF!?!
 
i hate how hard it is to hit that little reply icon
by the time i position and click, someone's posted another comment and i reply to the wrong thing
BALPHA, YOUR CHAT SUCKS
 
@Shog9 Which reply and I'll fix it. Just cause I am a nice guy.
 
no, don't bother now - it'd ruin the continuity
 
I'm sorry I didn't type fast enough.
 
@Shog9 You can also do it the @-reply way, which will (would? used to?) resort to highlighting the user's last message.
 
4:14 PM
@badp yeah, but that falls apart if it's not the last message that I'm responding to
 
@Shog9 no, the chat is quite alright; we might need to fix some of the users, though
 
Can anyone explain to me how an MIT license works if I want to redistribute the assembly with my code?
 
@balpha well... I do have these pliers...
 
@balpha For the record. He said it. I have proof.
 
@Diago just do it
 
4:16 PM
@badp Agree with @Shog9; when chat was launched I thought the @ replies with their tabbing and snazzy new hats were the swellest thing since sliced bread, but almost as soon as the reply arrow came along, it looked old and clunky.
 
@Shog9 I would. Except my user-base will most likely be SO, and the owner might be one of them!
 
What the... to chat feedback!
 
@PopularDemand Then just use the "scroll the window up a tiny bit" trick to hit the reply button reliably
 
Well, that was fun.
 
@PopularDemand Slow today are we... Spending to much time with the Girlfriend?
@PopularDemand At least give someone time to reply to you dammit
 
4:18 PM
@Diago just put some "contains code by XY, here's the license: ..." into the documentation/about box/etc
 
@balpha Seriously. I am specifically referring to JSON.net that i need to use for a StackApp?
 
@Diago How long has that been implemented?
And the girlfriend works 18-hour days now (or at least it feels like it); med school.
@badp To me, that's a bug, not a feature.
 
@PopularDemand Well there been a pin in the Tavern for a while now. :)
 
@Diago Seriously. MIT is pretty permissive. Just leave the copyright license intact & you should be fine.
 
@PopularDemand I feel for you. That's what happens when you date doctor's
 
4:21 PM
Obviously, if you make it look like you're trying to steal code...
 
@Diago Four minutes is not "a while."
 
@Shog9 Thanks. I am wary of using things without understanding it.
 
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Q: If I use open source code with license X, does my code that uses it have be under license X?

user210757For example, if I use some open source code that is licensed with an MIT license in my (commercial) project, does my project in turn have to be under the MIT license or do I have to distribute the MIT license or anything like that?

 
if it becomes an issue for some reason (author throws a hissy fit, your app gets bundled into Ubuntu), you can always correct it after-the-fact - again, just be honest about where you got the code and who wrote it
 
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@rchern Nice find!
@Shog9 Awesome. Thanks!
 
4:26 PM
@badp work-arounds are less than satisfying when they must be used with heavily-used features
 
Ooh Dinner. (wanders off)
 
@Shog9 it is a by-design behaviour, not a workaround. You may however question the design :P
 
INDEED I MAY
 
@badp > Google Instant is not available for your web browser.
> Please upgrade to the latest version of a modern browser to use Google Instant.
Elitists.
Oh, I love this:
> If everyone uses Google Instant globally, we estimate this will save more than 3.5 billion seconds a day. That’s 11 hours saved every second.
I see what they mean, but it still sounds weird.
 
4:41 PM
What would those seconds have been doing before Google Instant?
 
rofls
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Q: Where to download new Windows virus?

kelingI need to develop antivirus software for Windows Anyone know where to download new Windows virus?

 
But... What if you don't use Google? I mean do they imagine there are people that actually don't like their search engine?
@Shog9 Please migrate this to SU. I just need to close it myself!!! @mmyers
 
i was trying to post just that suggestion over in RegHQ, but... CHAT SUCKS
 
Actually, I like that question.
 
@mmyers' workplace uses viruses instead of installers
 
4:47 PM
I wish recruiters would do their job... "Did you look at their website? How does it make you feel?" -- um... just give me the job description or leave me alone
 
"nostalgic"
 
@Shog9 I disagree. It was a real question. He was quite clear what he wanted and it wasn't hard to understand
 
Hello all
 
@Shog9 No, viruses work too well and are thus not allowed on the network.
 
@Chacha102 Evening Boss.
 
4:48 PM
So now I can pin posts in my room?
 
Here's my resume: Resume.exe
 
@Diago what did he want?
(apart from "Windows viruses")
 
@Chacha102 Click on the arrow and then click pin
@Shog9 Well he wanted Windows viruses. It was a software installation question :)
 
exactly - SU
 
Ah, the admin panels are more separated now
That is nice
ummm
 
4:50 PM
@Diago To test the software he's (presumably) writing.
 
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whoa... Google is all ajaxy today
 
they're doing their press conference right now.
Google Instant
 
It is awesome frankly...
 
4:52 PM
@mmyers Someone actually gave a valid answer.
 
Yep. I reopened it in case there's more.
 
@Diago EICAR is not a new Windows virus. It's not actually a virus at all.
 
My crystal ball predicts a close war in that questions future.
@Shog9 However it can be used to test AV software. So it's close enough for me :)
 
ok, but you're not writing AV software
(and... frankly... this guy probably shouldn't be either...)
EICAR is intended for testing signature detection, file removal, etc. It's great if you want to verify that your scanner is... actually scanning
 
@Shog9 I am just doing this to bug you.
 
4:57 PM
...but it doesn't really help if you're trying to build a signature database
@Diago Everyone writing AV software bugs me
 
5:09 PM
I don't like that the starred post box is now scrolling...
and now it's fixed.
 
@Fosco It scrolls? Where?
 
@Diago it was scrolling when I said that, then something got unstarred so it refreshed and is no longer scrolling.
 
@Fosco From what I recall it scrolls when adding or removing
 
@Diago I mean it had a scrollbar, which just appeared and disappeared again. It's all good.. don't mind me.
 
Hmm... Be back in a bit.....
 
5:12 PM
same
 
@rchern Whoa, I thought all the earlier comments were just jokes, or random sputterings.
 
hm?
 
@PopularDemand I still think that.
Eh, Fosco, you should help this guy out:
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Q: Java homework question

riya7kindly suggest how to use multiple checkboxes using else if in java and please check the code below if(cb1.isSelected()) MyFrame9 m1=new MyFrame9(); else if(cb2.isSelected()) MyFrame10 m1=new MyFrame10(); else if(cb3.isSelected()) MyFrame11 m1=new MyFrame11(); else if(cb4.isSelected()) MyFrame12...

 
Now this is a question
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Q: How online testing virus ?

EdwardLauIn the attachment,I want to testing virus,but I don't know the antivirus software API have open and how in Java call

 
Someone copied that "euphoria/weightlessness" text earlier today, and I thought it was a random thought he came up with until just now.

Regulator Headquarters

Report evil (or more likely, dupe) questions here for closure
 
5:18 PM
(that question is closed already)
 
@PopularDemand that graph indicates the room will be dead
 
@Shog9 It just needs more data. Go help.
@badp Shog's wasn't, at the time I loaded it.
 
@PopularDemand I wasn't asking for that to be closed...
 
Whenever these places become empty we need to spur them alive with a few reandom cmoments
 
GOOGLE IS TELLING ME THINGS IN MY SLEEP!!!
 
5:23 PM
ooh
@Shog9 Is it a nice experience?
 
How should I know? I was asleep.
 
@balpha our chat should display text before the user types. Can you make it happen?
 
you should implement that already
 
LOL
honestly, the concept seems good.
 
@Shog9 Well, how do you know they did it in the first place?
 
5:24 PM
@Shog9 It... would need a lot of help.
 
the last time i actually went to google.com to do a search?
 
@balpha just plug in google scribe support with auto tabbing assistance
 
hint: date_i_installed_chrome-1
 
with just one letter you can get paragraphs of "content"!
 
actually no, prior to that i had the firefox search in the url bar.
 
5:26 PM
Feature request: onebox support for lipsum.com
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@Ikke I googled, "does google whisper to me in my sleep?" and hit "I'm feeling lucky"
 
@Shog9 Did you awaken Skynet?
 
@Shog9: And what did it tell you?
 
"go back to sleep
"
 
"No, but we do hear your whispering in your sleep."
 
5:27 PM
that's silly. I don't whisper. I scream.
 
@Shog9 Even after a long, hard day of doing that in here?
 
THERE'S JUST NO END!!!
speaking of which, I got like 3 hours of sleep last night... really need more coffee
 
Microsoft will announce its instant search next week: Bada Bing.
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So Google just released intellisense?
And that's new?
 
@balpha Sometimes you gotta love twitter
@LasseVKarlsen It's Google. Of course it's new. No one else thought about it before. :)
 
5:31 PM
@balpha didja ever think, these "one box" tweets are sort of the odd one out when it comes to "one boxes"?
i mean, everything else, it's an excerpt or extract; the tweets... they actually take up more room than the originals
 
@Shog9 But tweets are so gosh-darned important.
 
Gah, I feel positively awful
Headache and I think I'm brewing on a heavy cold :(
 
lol, Google bought ad space on Twitter. "Google Instant" is a promoted trending topic.
 
sniffing vinegar
@LasseVKarlsen quick - drink heavily. It'll help you fight off the virus
 
5:35 PM
google instant does not work here
 
good man
sipping coffee. Noisily.
 
@Ikke You need to 1) be visiting google.com (google.nl, say, might not have it) and/or 2) be logged in and 3) use a modern browser
 
And probably use the english version
The norwegian version is not enabled yet apparently
 
hmm I have 2/3
 
That's why I never use localized Google :)
 
5:37 PM
google.com redirects to google.nl
 
@Ikke There's a link that says "google.com in English"
 
Regarding knowing what the chat user is going to type before they do, that should be easy. Here are the top 30 messages on chat.meta by count as of monday:
405	lol
186	:)
173	yes
172	yeah
155	haha
121	Ah
103	:P
97	?
92	no
89	ok
82	hehe
81	:D
80	oh
75	nice
75	heh
69	hi
67	hmm
64	thanks
63	yep
61	Hello
57	Cool
57	nope
56	test
52	yup
47	True
44	Exactly
43	:(
40	...
35	sure
35	Lolz
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Next thing you know, we have intellisense in chat
 
lol
 
so when I type an L, it will autocomplete to lol? :)
 
5:39 PM
@badp already found it
 
@LasseVKarlsen What is this "autocomplete"? It'll do all the thinking and typing for you, chat will become a spectator sport.
 
@LasseVKarlsen Next thing you know, users will be replaced by programs simulating them -- so the bots can chat while we get stuff done
 
Bring back Clippy I say
"It looks like you're trying to impress your peers, would you like me to translate to l337speak for you?"
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see, this is why we need bot support. Get Welbog to bring his infernal machine in here, learn our styles, and then we can dispense with all this tedious typing
 
@LasseVKarlsen `/ 3 /-\ /-/ ./
@Shog9 Welbog would engineer the machines against using inline pictures. That would be bad.
 
5:42 PM
unicorn
 
"HO HO" we'll chuckle to ourselves, glasses of sherry and cigars in hand, "What a good argument I just made, however did I think of such a thing?"
 
@Shog9 Where is John Rudy?
 
donno... he's been quiet of late
anyone here work with ODBC?
(and no, I don't intend to ask an ODBC question)
 
@Shog9 In that case, once, a long time ago.
 
I can't say I really work at all
 
5:48 PM
Though I do occasionally deal with Oracle at work, it's not ODBC.
 
is the topbar from the chat gone?
 
@Ikke the ticker?
 
Well, the bar where you could find your username. But I see it is on the homepage
 
@PopularDemand oh? What do you use?
 
Oracle Universal Content Management, nee Stellent
 
6:17 PM
what software do you guys use for sending mass email blasts?
e-Campaign works but... not the greatest
 
@balpha Can you search deleted comments? I'm almost sure I made a similar comment several months ago, but SEDE finds nothing for '%bada%'.
 
@mmyers so you want to sue jin for copyright infringement? :)
no, I don't have database access anywhere else
 
@LasseVKarlsen, sorry for the confusion on the meta naming thread... I thought I came up with The Prancing Unicorn but apparently not
 
You probably did too :)
That is, you did it too
But I posted it first, so gotcha!
But the name is too cumbersome I think
A good pub/tavern name should roll off the tongue
 
I agree
 
6:27 PM
I posted another one, what do you think?
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A: Naming the Tavern

Lasse V. Karlsen The Void

 
@balpha Yes. I demand all the profits from that tweet and any subsequent tweets which may capitalize on the success of that or any tweets otherwise related to materials previously posted on Stack Overflow or any other website by the party of the first part, heretoforwith known as "The Party of the First Part".
 
Hmm, I just got an rss notification?
 
Ah, ok
 
@mmyers Search deleted comments? I pledge the fourth! or the first! or, er, something!
 
6:38 PM
@badp did you mean "plead"?
 
The fourth is actually a good one to plead here.
The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures. The amendment specifically also requires search and arrest warrants be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. It was adopted as a response to the abuse of the writ of assistance, which is a type of general search warrant, in the American Revolution. Search and arrest should be limited in scope according to specific information supplied to the issuing court, usually by a law enforcement officer, who has sworn by it...
Unreasonable searches and all that.
 
Haha... nice
 
Is this like a system message?
 
@spoulson Is what?
 
The pop up message
Not sure why it has an RSS icon
 
6:44 PM
Oh.. yeah I'm not sure why it poppped up either
@SaraChipps Howdy. You use NHibernate+MVC right? No?
 
Right boys. Behave. We have a lady in our presence :)
Hi @SaraChipps!
 
@Diago Umm, rchern has been here for a while.
 
Yes, yes she has.
 
@mmyers True, but she doesn't behave very lady like (ducks)
 
I have returned
 
6:46 PM
Hey now.
 
@LasseVKarlsen I like it
 
@rchern Hey, I am giving up. If I can't beat it I am going to join it :)
 
@Diago Still causing trouble eh? :-)
 
@Diago back to the ducks, huh? Waffles not good enough for you?
 
@Josh At least I know what I am good at :)
@PopularDemand Oh shut it. I have a stuffed unicorn here that might end up where you don't want it? :)
 
6:48 PM
@Diago If she looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, she must be a duck (everything I learned from my patterns class)
 
@Diago LOL. Same here :-)
@Diago Related:
 
@Josh All I am getting is a huge question mark and an arrow
Hmmm... Did my new Safari upgrade just break something?
 
You get a question mark? Lucky stiff.
 
I got the same problem, empty image with arrow
 
@HoLyVieRaspx OS, Browser?
 
6:53 PM
@Diago WinXP, Firefox
 
@balpha Your system is broken. Just as the celebrities arrive Please fix it my good man :) (I am so hoping he has a sense of humour tonight)
 
@Diago Same :-(
 
link is fine tough
 
It's a stuffed pony being blown up: youtube.com/watch?v=cD2a8OalofM
I thought oneboxing youtube worked, huh...
 
(Thinks he may have stepped over the line)
OMG. He accepted my sarcastic and pretty rude answer. WOW
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A: Who has downvoted me and why

DiagoNo They probably just didn't like your answers. If it was a revenge down-vote run (someone didn't like your answers and down-voted all your answer/questions in quick succession), the automatic vote detection scripts will pick it up and reverse it in 24 hours. To understand the detection scripts ...

 
6:55 PM
@Diago weeks ago
 
@Shog9 Is that why you don't hang around here anymore?
 
@Diago It wasn't that rude, it was informative
 
@Diago yup
 
@Diago I downvoted your answer just to inject a little bit of irony
 
@Shog9 Then I need to rectify the situation. I vow that tonight will be my last night in the Tavern.
 
6:57 PM
LOL @JoePhillips
 
Looks like a reasonable answer to me.
And you have the Official Diamond of Officiating Officialness.
 
@Diago it isn't night
 
@JoePhillips I was going to type up a very good reply, but realised there is a very good chance it will backfire.
@Shog9 Well it's 20:57 for me. So it's night for me :P
 
@Shog9 It's always 5 am somewhere.
 
@Diago I just want my critic badge
 
6:59 PM
looks like that youtube issue is youtube's fault: youtube.com/…
 
@balpha Cool, thanks!
 
Ha, the changes to the bounty system make it list the awarder's name: "This answer has been awarded bounty worth 100 reputation by Popular Demand." It looks like an auto-awarded bounty originally worth 200 rep.
 

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