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2:16 AM
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18692160/get-list-of-classes-and-methods-that-call-a-specific-global-method/18692306#18692306

I figured out some code that solves my exact problem, but it uses the method suggested by the accepted answer. Should I try to edit the existing answer or should I make a new answer?
@Sh
Yeah, I'll just edit.
 
 
2 hours later…
4:00 AM
Hi anybody here? :)
@Bart Hi
please see my reputation changes above
i have been serially upvoted and the same was reversed twise in the last 2 days
and the second serial upvote was too deliberate which happened just 15 mins after the first one got reveresed.
I am in a very sad situation. will you help me out to tell which user is doing alll these ?
 
@mithunsatheesh No, the mods can't and won't tell you. And if the upvotes are all reverted and your rep doesn't change, what does it matter?
 
@YiJiang : it appears in the reputation tab as two consecutive -ve scores
which is pretty annoying
when it is very sure that it is done intentionally, is just warning the account holder a solution for this?
 
4:57 AM
@Geoff, Random question: are you guys eventually planning to integrate site's designs into the Android app? Colors, graphics, etc.? (Obviously non-pressing, just curious.)
 
 
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7:22 AM
hi, is it possible to see how many edits (approved and disapproved) one made?
 
Go to your latest suggested edit @LaszloPapp and click on the (more) link. There it will give you a status
"Laszlo Papp had 52 edit suggestions approved, and 17 edit suggestions rejected"
I don't know if there's an easier way
 
I am not sure which one was the latest suggested edit.
 
You can find it in your activity history
 
wow, QT to Qt edit rejected.
when the project is called Qt, not QT (Quick Time)
i.e. it is not minor to refer to the wrong project.
 
Yep, I know. Would have accepted. Mind if I do it myself?
 
7:31 AM
@Bart: thanks
by all means, go ahead to fix QT to Qt. All my worship for that. :)
 
Done
 
it is very annoying all around.
and I always have to fix it.
 
I can't count the amount of times I've made that fix
 
perhaps there could be an automatic checker in qt tagged posts?
me neither....
 
Not sure if it's worth the effort. :s
 
7:33 AM
I will submit a feature request.
automatic checker and fixer for qt tagged posts.
to replace QT with Qt.
that would spare a lot of effort for the community members.
or was it already submitted and rejected?
 
Not that I know.
 
apparently, the three people rejecting it have nothing to do with Qt based on their tags history.
I wonder why they review and confidently remove such edits then.
especially if they check the tag history of the editor.
s/remove/reject/
 
The view presented to a reviewer is very narrow. To check up on tag activity of a user, you'd have to leave that view. And such edits, to the uninitiated, might seem rather minor. Even though your edit comment was spot on.
Let's just say that we have more problems with accepted edits which should not be accepted
I take the occasional mistaken rejection over that any day. Even though it sucks. :S
 
people accept edits that should not be?
 
Oh yes
185
Q: The robo-approvers are killing my will to review edits

Kate GregoryAlready I have lost all hope of looking at late answers etc. It's just a parade of meh. I can't make any kind of intelligent decision because I can't see the other answers to the question, for instance. There's no Looks Good, only Skip, and those feel different to me. So I've been more interested...

 
7:40 AM
@balpha Just got .28, thanks for fixing the flickering!
 
@Bart: yes, that is much more unfortunate than Qt vs. QT. ;-)
well, not to underestimate QT vs. Qt though as it is a project trademark issue as well, but yeah.
there was no proposal yet to improve this part of the system somehow?
 
It's basically why we have audits
I.e. known bad suggested edits just to test reviewers
 
@HodofHod thanks for reporting despite my doubtful attitude ;)
 
@Bart: but apparently, that still does not solve the issues.
 
8:01 AM
@balpha :) Also, now that you're here, care to comment on:
3 hours ago, by HodofHod
@Geoff, Random question: are you guys eventually planning to integrate site's designs into the Android app? Colors, graphics, etc.? (Obviously non-pressing, just curious.)
 
no, the current plan is to keep one consistent app design across all sites
 
Interesting. So it was brought up and decided against?
 
yeah
 
Ok. I won't bother with the feature-request then.
Thanks, though :)
 
 
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user234239
10:42 AM
well, it was fun chatting with you guys over the past few days - take care.
 
@UV-D Don't be a stranger.
 
user234239
@Oded well soon my MSO and SO accounts will be no more, I'm going to concentrate my energies into other sites.
 
@UV-D Sorry to hear that you are leaving those sites. Are you going to keep using you other accounts?
 
user234239
10:58 AM
@Oded yes, I have not any problems, nor had my integrity questioned on the 3 remaining sites that I belong to. Also, I have over 5K on one of the sites. As for my Android/Java questions, I will just research them as a guest on SO and other rsourcs that are available.
 
Well, shame to see you going. Good luck in your future and don't let random strangers on the Internet push you away.
 
user234239
well, thi random stranger screwed around with my rep in the order of 160 rep in about an hour, then changed her mind, then changed it back over a period of few days when I was on Cognitive Sciences (had 2.2K as well) - nothing was done at all, and then I get accused of malicious and revenge downvoting because she got downvoted (not by me)
 
user234239
but it's moot now, I don't have the time to play her infantile games.
 
Thicker skin... I am sure the other party has been warned by mods by now.
 
user234239
possibly - doesn't matter though. It is not about having thicker skin, it's really about what do I really want to be spending my time on - sites where this kind of behaviour occurred and has the potential to occur again, and sites that a slightly different game occurs? Or sticking with sites that are calm and without those distractions
 
11:10 AM
I did review well as always :/
Just letting you guys know about it
 
user234239
But @Oded - just back to my original message - it has been fun chatting with you guys the past few days - much needed laughs (real life a tad stressful). Once I literally fell right out my seat laughing
 
Excellent. We do get the occasional... interesting personality...
 
user234239
well, one of those interesting personalities has seemingly decided to do a bit of online nuisance nonsense (and has got away with it for the most part).
 
yeah he/she just beautified the code not edited any part in that text. right?
 
@UV-D Don't count on it. People can get suspended for a good long while, though only if they keep on with bad behavior.
@Mr_Green Code? Did you read that "answer" at all?
 
11:18 AM
oops no code
the text I mean
 
oops no answer either
 
ooop - should have been closed and deleted. Not "improved".
 
ok
 
@UV-D Hey there! Welcome to meta!
Or, wait, you've been here awhile
 
24 mins ago, by UV-D
@Oded well soon my MSO and SO accounts will be no more, I'm going to concentrate my energies into other sites.
 
11:20 AM
@Mr_Green Take this day to do something else on SO - answer (for example).
 
@Oded Hm.
 
:(
 
I came across UV on Physics, asked a pretty interesting question
 
user234239
@Manishearth, what Oded quoted - but will still hang about on Physics and my other 2
 
yeah sure
 
11:21 AM
@UV-D yay :) We have a chatroom on Phy too, but it's much quieter
 
user234239
I should start a sing along?
 
user234239
so the room is not so quiet?
 
@UV-D oh lol
you could try
 
user234239
hmm I think my online singing is still more akin to cows moo-ing
 
11:23 AM
Watch out, we may fourier transform your singing :p
 
Coombaya...
 
user234239
hm that may indeed improve it
 
user234239
once my MSO and SO accounts are gone, I'll just be on 3 sites... until astronomy and geoscience come out of incubaton
 
@UV-D Ah
Work hard to make Astro work. Given that it failed in public beta the last time, I think there will be a higher bar this time for passing private beta
 
user234239
very true - I am gearing up for it probably will answer more than question - astronomy, geology and atmospheric physics are my main areas of expertise
 
11:30 AM
@UV-D Ask, too!
The last time the site had answerers, but not as many askers
 
user234239
but I know everything ...;p
 
Ha!
Self-answering also works. Don't do it to seed the site, but if there are some interesting common questions, go ahead :)
Do geologists like chemistry?
 
user234239
geologists often do... I used to be into geochemistry .. specifically redox reactions with saline groundwater
 
user234239
used to work as a gold exploration geologist
 
found anything?
Can I get a cut?
goooold!
:D
 
user234239
11:33 AM
lol, once found 25000 tons in a deposit, but the company owned it
 
Leaving @UV-D? What is this crazy talk?
 
@UV-D iz unfair
 
user234239
just leaving SO and MSO @Bart - still will be floating around the SE network
 
user234239
like a zombie-ish smell
 
user234239
@Manishearth tis indeed... they would not let me take a small 24999 ton cut
 
11:35 AM
:( Up to you of course, but users leaving is never a good thing @UV-D
 
@UV-D Preposterous!
@Bart FWIW I've kinda-sorta left MSO too
But that's just because I'm busy these days
 
user234239
@Bart, well, it is not like I contributed much anyway - so hardly will be missed, at least I won't be a suspect for serial downvoting that I was warned about this very evening
 
@Manishearth If anything I'm glad to see you're still alive
 
user234239
and like Manishearth, I am a busy bee lately
 
Had to flag several rather interesting posts addressed to you recently
 
11:37 AM
@Bart :)
@Bart again?
 
Some time ago. 2 weeks? @Manishearth
 
Ah then
 
@UV-D you're in Australia, correct?
 
user234239
@Bart yup, in the awesome state of Queensland
 
Then I simply think your upvotes have been mistaken for downvotes. I don't know if the system accounts for those other-side-of-the-hemisphere issues
 
user234239
11:41 AM
@Bart you could be on to something...lol
 
user234239
but it is something I would not do and never have done
 
user234239
I have a bit more integrity than that, despite the author and the complainant of the warning
 
Sometimes users have the strangest responses @UV-D. I've received emails from users for the weirdest reasons
 
Same here. Though the community team email gets some real weird stuff.
 
user234239
I am convinced that it is the same member as the one who yo-yo-ed my former cognitive science (2.2K) rep by 160 a day, deciding that she would play some more new nd exciting games
 
user234239
11:46 AM
and considering my SO account is just me reading, editing, flagging and voting and my associated MSO account is nothing really - I thought to myself that verily I do not have time for this petty game play, so will just walk away from both sites.
 
@UV-D or just ignore and move on. You're free to do as you wish, but I personally never do anything but shrug, and possibly flag.
 
user234239
but still hang about the 3 remaining sites that I haunt with more vigour
 
user234239
that's the thing, I have been ignoring said user, she gets downvotes, and I get the blame.
 
"the blame" how?
By that user?
 
user234239
well, it may not be that at all, but I am not taking the chance.
 
11:52 AM
Fair enough. Focus on those things you like doing.
 
user234239
exactly, and I am also focusing on things that don't provide any form of stress where it can be avoided
 
Stress is fun! Or... not. Take your pick.
 
@AndrewBarber Stress is... stressful
 
user234239
or my shovel
 
Stress is a physical quantity that expresses the internal forces that neighboring particles of a continuous material exert on each other.
 
11:56 AM
@AndrewBarber are you a stressed fool? or just a fool? :)
 
@UV-D And my axe!
 
@bluefeet Yes!
 
user234239
but the end result is - I am accused and warned of serial downvoting, and I think... yeesh, don't need this, it is minor, but it could happen again, not really a contributor on the sites, so time to just walk away and concentrate on my other 3 memberships
 
user234239
@YiJiang was that an axe-idental pun?
 
and @uv-d I suspect your warning was due to more of an accumulated thing. I dint want to get more specific, but it was mute due to a general attentiveness to certain users whom I'd prefer you not name specifically... but I don't think that user called you out. and it really was more of a warning, just in case sort of thing
mute = more
there was a bit of ugliness involved, as I think you're aware of roughly.
 
user234239
12:02 PM
oh, I won't name them at all (and have taken steps not to). I think that attentiveness is a coincidence as I read a lot of posts and vote accordingly
 
user234239
I am very acutely aware (I was a target a couple of times - on two sites, including SO).
 
yeah. that's my impression from what I saw, too. related tags are fairly low traffic. but the user just had/has so much focus right now. and I've said too much ;)
oohhh. you should make a user script that replaces ask mention of their name with "Mickey Mouse"!
ask=all
 
user234239
that's fine, @AndrewBarber, no more needs to be said - I figure I will just walk away completely from that member, easiest way is to remove my accounts on SO and MSO
 
okay... gotta run. everyone be good. except you, @Oded. you keep being BAD!
 
user234239
The member can have their little sandbox...lol
 
user234239
12:06 PM
@AndrewBarber have a good one
 
user234239
I better go myself, it is fast approaching tomorrow and I need to make a ddeposit on my beauty sleep (only 42 trillion payments to go)
 
@AndrewBarber to the bone
 
@Bart: "Writing recommendation

Qt is a cross-platform application development framework, but QT (QuickTime) - is an extensible multimedia framework developed by Apple Inc." it is even in our tag
I really do not understand how reviewers decline that.
@Bart: lack of audit for this?
 
As if anyone ever reads tag wiki content @LaszloPapp :)
 
@Bart: ???
I do whenever I contribute to a tag.
 
12:14 PM
@LaszloPapp You are wonderful then. But I'd almost say you are an exception
 
well, what is the point of tag wiki if people do not read?
it is meant to define the scope, give a short description, etc....
 
Absolutely
 
I think it is essential to understand if one is willing to contribute to that.
 
But it's one of those tricky issues for which there is not yet a real solution
The visibility of tag wikis is apparently not all that high
 
I guess it is hard to cover every such issue with audit.
so I guess the best idea there is just to fix those cases automatically....
that is also the least effort in the end of the day
 
12:17 PM
The audits are really only meant to capture the blind robo-reviewers
Those who click their way towards a badge for the sake of the badge
 
I will propose this feature request then.
I am surprised no one bothered yet... fixing that issue again, again, and again is annoying.
 
@UV-D Getting warned doesn't mean that they have a strong suspicion fyi :)
 
Not sure if something like that has been suggested.
 
(Sorry, my institute net just died. Storm.)
 
@Bart: well, let me know if you find any thread.
@Oded: would such a feature take you a long time to implement?
 
12:27 PM
@LaszloPapp Please be specific - of the two different ones you have mentioned, which do you mean?
 
@Oded: s/QT/Qt/g automatically
for qt, qmake, qt-creator, qt4, qt5, etc tags
 
We don't currently have such functionality - and if this accepted, everyone will come in with their pet typo (and people will disagree). I think it can open a can of worms.
 
what do you mean?
every case could be decided by the relevant community, and votes.
 
Is it easy? We have the tags, when people post. And on the face of it, it is just consulting a dictionary of tags and replacements (simple regex). So, probably not difficult per-se
 
I highly doubt this would be any can of worm in the qt community.
I am fairly certain it would be a 90:10 if not more.
 
12:32 PM
I see that as distracting and detracting from the main focus of actually asking questions and getting answers. And some people will complain that we are rewriting their posts.
This is also prone to false-positives and false-negatives.
 
none of those concerns is valid IMHO.
simply because of the fact that people already spend a lot of time with it.
so it would actually make SO a better place IMO
not sure about false positives.
I do not see how "foo QT bar" -> "foo Qt bar" can be any false positive.
 
@LaszloPapp Well, that's the chosen mechanism right now.
 
so there are already use cases which can be simply covered.
it is not chosen
it is inherited
the people who wish to work with Qt, that is what they have due to past stuff.
but having talked to a few people, it is clear that it is annoying for more than just me or two of us.
especially when people reject such stuff who have nothing to do with Qt.
not even C++.
 
@LaszloPapp You have to consider that such a feature is never going to be implemented for the QT -> Qt case alone. While that might generally be a straight foward situation, other similar "spell checks" might not be.
 
@Bart: I think that is a fairly good and riskless start.
that would already spare a lot of work and frustration.
=> better site.
 
12:37 PM
And I guess such a tool might be easily user scriptable, though it would still require an edit. I suspect a certain Meta user does something similar for the StackOverflow -> Stack Overflow case.
 
ok, so it is not difficult for development point of view, either.
 
12:54 PM
Maybe in the case of s/\<QT\>/Qt/g it would not cause false positives.. but in many other cases it might.
 
@ThiefMaster Yeah - I generally don't like the idea of rewriting posts automatically. That's what suggested edits are for ;)
 
@ThiefMaster Not so easy. You need to ignore variables called QT in code
 
 
2 hours later…
2:52 PM
I requested access to the SE Android app several days ago, and it hasn't been granted. Any employees in here know how I can check the status of that? Or did I join the party too late?
(It may have been a few weeks ago, actually. I can't remember now)
 
@jadarnel27 - The list is long and we are adding people to the program as fast as we can. Give it some time...
 
@jadarnel27 at the moment we're adding users at a rate of 75/week. About 325 are in, you're number 499
 
Ohhh! Cool - thanks for the update @balpha and @Oded. Sorry for my impatience =)
 
Anonymous
I just got the "There are an unusual number of requests coming from this IP address. To protect our users, we can't process any more requests from this IP address right now." block from Stack Exchange during some entirely reasonable usage of Careers. I was editing a bunch of elements in my profile, and I wasn't spending too long on each but I wasn't doing it unreasonably quickly either.
 
Anonymous
(I'm on my home connection so I know that it's not a result of other activity from my IP.)
 
2:59 PM
@JeremyonVacation It probably takes the "on Vacation" into account.
 
3:17 PM
Dear Jeremy, Stop updating your job profile. You're on vacation. Love, Stack Overflow Careers.
 
Duties included: Soaking up rays, relaxing. Spearheaded a successful project to accomplish nothing of any practical value for seven consecutive days.
 
3:32 PM
Is there any possible way I can change my Stack Exchange Login username/email?
 
Sure, go to your profile page, then on the top right, "my logins."
 
I can't edit it there.
Removing and trying to add a new one just readds the old one.
Trying to add a second Stack Exchange login redirects me to my profile page.
 
@ZachSmith Have you logged out of the SE openID before trying?
 
@Oded Just did. Never gave that thought. Thanks.
 
@Oded If you log out, then you can't log back in to associate the new login with the right account.
There's a similar problem with associating two Google credentials with the same profile, but Google supports multi-signin which comes in handy for that.
There are basically two ways to add another SE openid to an SE account: 1. Create a new account with the new credentials and contact us for a merge (see "contact us" at the bottom of any page) or 2. use a third-party credential (Google, Yahoo, etc.) you can use to log in long  enough to associate another SE openid with your account. And then either remove the old SE openid and the third-party logins or keep 'em around, whichever you prefer.
@ZachSmith ^^^
 
3:45 PM
@AnnaLear You've a point, but I have Facebook associated with it too. I just wanted to keep a Stack Exchange login but dispose of the one I was currently using. I just did it successfully.
 
@ZachSmith Yeah, that's way #2. :) Glad to hear it worked.
 
4:09 PM
@Shog9 a comment on the question that is just a link could be useful to the OP now. It shouldn't be a permanent answer IMHO, for the reasons I stated.
 
@AaronBertrand So we're describing a scenario where someone has a problem, someone else posts a link that proves instrumental in resolving that problem, and the link gets up-voted and/or accepted. We have a problem and its solution - great! But they're in a bad format for our site. What do we do to get them into a format we can live with?
 
Flag for a moderator to delete it!
(Just kidding)
 
@JeremyonVacation Maybe there's some overeager code in there again somewhere, heh.
 
(hint: questions with solutions in comments is generally seen as not an ideal format either)
 
@Shog9 well again, I guess we disagree that a link is a solution.
(In other words, I am saying "could be useful" and not "is a solution" - links can be useful for background / peripheral information, but that doesn't make them stand-alone answers.)
 
4:16 PM
@AaronBertrand A link isn't anything. A link is a pointer to something. Maybe it points to a solution. Maybe it points to something tangentially-related. Maybe it points to nothing at all (broken). You can't see the presence of a link and know without having followed it what the actual scenario is.
This is what makes them unsuitable as the content of answers that don't provide the necessary auxiliary information, and also what makes flags that fail to provide the same information difficult to process consistently!
Tangential information might be suitable for a comment. A good answer that sits to the other side of a link can be made a good answer, either via an edit by the author, or by an edit from the asker. A broken link should generally just be deleted.
Three different scenarios. Three different flags.
FWIW, the VLQ queue works really great for handling #2.
We kinda designed a big chunk of it with that in mind.
#3 is by far the most severe problem, and we've been working on specific tools for that as well, but... That's kinda stalled atm.
 
Whoops.
 
@Shog9 I imagine, since a link can appear to be broken temporarily or intermittently. FWIW, I try to deal with link-only answers before the link-rot happens, though I have come across the occasional old answer that has a no-longer-valid link.
@Shog9 Quest/Dell did a number on us recently by orphaning all of the SQLServerPedia links. We dealt with it on dba.SE rather quickly meta.dba.stackexchange.com/questions/1008/…, but I'm not sure how well SO has dealt with it meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/190451/…
Oh wow links are hard to spot in comments here. There are two links above ^^^^
 
still a lot of 'em hanging around, I'll wager
 
Don't mean to sound impatient, but what's the average turnaround rate on a flag? Could be for other reasons, but I flagged a question yesterday and the flag's still active and three flags raised after it have been accepted as helpful.
 
@ZachSmith Depends on the type of flag 'other' flags can take a few days to clear.
All other types of flags are generally cleared same day.
 
4:31 PM
It was a duplicate flag.
 
The reason is that people have been using the 'other' flag more frequently since the flag refactoring.
 
Which site, @ZachSmith?
 
Stack Overflow
 
I think that comes across as an 'other' flag, if so, it could take a few days to clear on Stack Overflow.
 
@ZachSmith Several days or longer on SO. Dups are hard.
 
4:32 PM
@ZachSmith Recommend closure flags go to the Close Votes queue. Moderators do not see them. SO it can take quite a while since that queue is quite large.
 
Ah.
I 'twas wrong.
 
Ah. Thanks. Was just wondering what might be going on.
 
Well, we do see them if we troll the Close Votes review queue. Not like we have lots of time for that, these days ;)
 
But trolling is so much fun.
 
@animuson It sure is! Just ask Sumer! ;+)
 
4:46 PM
@ZachSmith and there haven't been 5 VtCs?
 
 
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6:19 PM
7
Q: Open letter to students with homework problems

MichaelTIt is September once again (today is the 7316th day of September), and once again students are asking their homework problems on Stack Overflow and Programmers.SE. We start seeing questions like: A car dealer has 10 salespersons. Each salesperson keeps track of the number of cars sold each m...

 
6:50 PM
in The Whiteboard on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by gnat
most prominent example of brainless downvoting at MSO. Not the most prominent all-time mind you, but top of the month for sure...
 
Why "brainless" @gnat?
 
in The Whiteboard on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 4 mins ago, by gnat
Well, Andrew has reopened the question. On this occasion you are completely correct in that the close reason was not clear, but only because it was closed in error. Any chosen close-message would likely be unclear if there was no reason to close. — James 8 hours ago
in The Whiteboard on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 mins ago, by gnat
"close reason was not clear, but only because it was closed in error" but who cares reading it, let the DV pile on. Let that devil out
 
So you simply disagree with the votes, based on some practical situations you and others have encountered? Fair enough. Doesn't really justify the "brainless" though.
 
 
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8:49 PM
@Oded I asked a question on this meta specifically because there aren't enough users on the garden meta to generate the response I need. My question isn't about gardening, it is about the way SE is structured.
 
@Randy It's unlikely that you're gonna get a good response on MSO for what makes a good answer on Gardening, though. Every site has a slightly different culture, depending on its topic and whatnot.
 
@AnnaLear So each site makes its own rules?
 
9:05 PM
31
Q: Individual community preferences vs. SE network policy: who wins?

PopsIn the recent question Where can I ask a question about advice for my job?, the OP asks where the following question would be appropriate: What would be the best way to approach someone that works for me about bad odor? CHAOS team member Abby Miller responded by suggesting the proposal The ...

(Just to be completely clear, I asked that long before I was an employee.)
 
9:19 PM
@Randy Not rules so much as site-specific variations on the common theme. A good answer on Stack Overflow or Photography would likely have aspects that would be unnecessary on Gardening or Gaming, for example.
When you are trying to work out how things work or should work within a specific community, it's best to start there.
 
I applied for a new job in Lincoln, NE... :x
 
 
2 hours later…
11:36 PM
@Pops Thanks for that!
 

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