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5:20 PM
morning folks
@jcolebrand I'm at a keyboard now.
 
ok, so kindly explain how the situation was going down. Did the department professors decide spontaneously to get up and expound on how evil Israel is, or did the student organization organizing the event need sponsorship to use the facilities of the campus?
Your article and the related ones kind of painted two pictures, but none were clear
Did University money pay for the activities?
And I realize this may be officially a "College" and not have the title "University" but whatevs, it's a name used to indicate a location where higher education is taught above "public schooling for youths and adolescents as required by social mores"
 
@jcolebrand A student organization approached the department, asking for sponsorship of some kind. I'm under the impression that they did not provide money, but initially did provide permission to use school facilities.
 
What school facilities were eventually used for these presentations? Student union? Arts theater? Sports Stadium? Library Conference Room?
 
On the other hand, the word sponsor implies financial support, and the students running the event and the department use the word sponsor.
 
(The articles were all lacking in these specifics)
 
5:25 PM
@jcolebrand The student union building, yes. "SUBO" as they call it.
 
@Moshe ignore that and please help me understand the actual details that you're aware of, let's not speculate.
 
@jcolebrand sure, ok
 
@Moshe was it a "restricted" part of the SUBO?
Did you say a friend with flyers in her lap was arrested or merely evicted from the proceedings?
 
@jcolebrand No, but once the student organizers realized that there was opposition, RSVPs and tight security was organized.
@jcolebrand Just evicted, with four others.
 
@Moshe well that just makes sense regardless.
 
5:27 PM
@jcolebrand Right, that does.
 
This is obviously a highly contested area.
Fights are as sure to break out here as with hockey or the like
 
The thing that intrigues me, was the selective acceptance of RSVPs, and the fact that they "recounted" thrice. (As in, cancelled a bunch of RSVPs and opened sign ups again.)
 
wait, you've gone and lost me again
ahh, thanks
 
Yea, so that's the story.
 
Ok, so now let me understand something else, that I don't get.
 
5:28 PM
@jcolebrand Sure.
 
This is what passes for clever at universities these days:
@mootinator @Jonas_613 @stephen_taylor First year, actually, when covering superficial understandings of human rights, but good try! :P
 
Are you morally opposed to giving these people the freedom to discuss in public their interpretation of the events in Israel and Palestine while those people are in the US, so long as the University does not directly finance such public discussion, aside from the way that the University finances all public spaces, including galleries and similar open areas that are publicly accessible?
 
@jcolebrand Nope. That's within their rights. The issue is university sponsorship.
(Although I obviously disagree with their stance on the issue, but that's for another time.)
 
@Moshe Do you have confirmation from anyone that the university financially supported this proceeding?
 
@jcolebrand No, not financially.
 
5:31 PM
@Moshe that's a matter of personal morals over the discussion, not a question of the ability for them to discuss it
And I'm glad you recognize and cognate the difference, so many folks don't.
I am interested to know if there was a direct financial support of the talk, in any way. I doubt there was.
However, I would also like to state that while it's appropriate for professors to talk about these concepts at a public discourse meeting, I am against their use of the classroom "pulpit" to discuss these matters unless they directly related to the curriculum discussed on day one of the class, and presented to the accreditation institute.
 
@jcolebrand That's exactly what I told the press.
 
So for that, I join you in your demonstrations against the proceedings
@Moshe I just wanted to make sure what specifically was the issue, as the news articles I read (and I linked them all in the tavern above) were unclear, altho moot gave some good insight.
 
@jcolebrand Yea, so that's the story.
 
There's also the issue whether the political science department explicitly said, "we endorse this viewpoint" regardless of financial support.
 
Aside from the teacher's misusing their classroom "pulpits", I don't see where any other protests had room to originate.
 
5:34 PM
@mootinator Which is what this looks like to me. The smoking gun is their refusal to bring in a pro Israel speaker, when one volunteered weeks ago.
 
Oh you already talked about that while I was working.
 
@mootinator I feel like that falls under "classroom pulpit"
 
nod
 
@Moshe ehhhh ... remember that "let's not let things turn into a brawl" we were just talking about?
 
5:35 PM
@jcolebrand Okay.
 
@Moshe yes, please don't link to that site ;-) I get enough ads on google.
 
/sulks
 
@Moshe no seriously
I mean, the folks in Israel/Palestine can't even talk about this without throwing rocks at each other.
 
@jcolebrand rofl, use Safari for OS X and use the reader mode.
@jcolebrand No, I wasn't begin facetious, I agree.
 
@Moshe nope, I refuse to browse through seven layers of indirection ;-)
 
5:36 PM
@jcolebrand rofl
 
So because of that, they really have to be serious how they bring in speakers.
However, what they should do is to "edorse" in the same manner as the just-held-talks a similar "pro-Israel" set of talks, that are the "reflection" of the "pro-Palestine" talks.
Notice all my "quotes" because I don't know exactly how to describe those concepts.
 
@jcolebrand Exactly.
About the students who were evicted. (Most of them friends of mine.)
 
Since it appears that a student organization organized the event and approached the department, maybe the thing to do is for you and your friends to organize a similar event, scheduled for a few weeks or months from now, and do the exact same thing.
 
Anyhow, I have to run for a bit
I hope you have a better understanding of what has been going on.
 
Though don't wait a few months, college activities tend to end at the end of March :P
 
5:40 PM
And I agree, there probably will more such events in the future.
@mootinator :-D
 
It really sounds like they were more worried about a riot/fight/massive-brawl breaking out, and them having to defend the students and school facilities and faculty, and so were more concerned with safety than with public discourse.
@mootinator ok, a couple months. Sounds like you're saying sixtoeightweeks.com
I would still like to know what "sponsored by the PoliSci department" means.
Because if the pro-Israel kids put on a similar talk, and it's also "sponsored by the PoliSci dept" then who gives a shit.
time for me to up my data usage I think
 
Naaaah.
 
the diff is either "promise them another $20/mo over what I'm paying now" or "pay $20/mo more if I go over by 2GB"
I'm going to stick with "pay them $10/gb overage"
 
@jcolebrand What do you mean by that?
@jcolebrand According to the response I got from the dept chair, it means "lend our name to the discussion". (Which further confuses me, because now I have two meaningless phrases to wonder about.)
 
5:56 PM
Doesn't sound like discussion was very welcome.
Discussion doesn't need security.
 
/nods
 
6:55 PM
@Moshe it means "there's no department partiality.
 
7:37 PM
SRSLY
 
8:08 PM
@HodofHod go see that Q we edited last night ;-)
 
8:34 PM
Status: Dealing firsthand with the reason you don't store enums as text in a database then display that text.
 
8:46 PM
@jcolebrand What, 9 more votes?
 
9:05 PM
@HodofHod the comments
 
9:24 PM
How do I get people's Facebook profile pics to automatically sync to my Android phone's contacts? It used to do that before I wiped it, and now I can't remember how I did it.
And I obviously cannot be bothered to Google it.
 
Do you have it setup to sync your Facebook contacts?
 
9:41 PM
Haha, apparently I never added my Facebook account to the "Accounts" thingadongdong after wiping my phone - I just signed in on the app.
 
TROLLSTARRED
 
Thanks for jostling my brain, jayco.
 
That was even better than rubberducking.
 
Damn you, mootinator - you trollstarring piece a' shit!
Whoa.
That got out of hand quickly.
 
That reminds me
I haven't flown the flag in awhile.
 
9:48 PM
@jcolebrand I just realized it doesn't even interlink between main sites and their metas. That really should change.
 
@HodofHod precisely.
that's what I picked up on last night and when I started to extrapolate
 
I was totally oblivious. It's not very clear in the edited q. Should I add, or do you want?
 
@HodofHod please by all means, go ahead
 
I have no idea where to add that
 
10:51 PM
My ego gets deflated a little every time I hear that Star Trek noise, and tab over to see that it's just "Happy Hour", not someone talking to me.
 
the secret is to use desktop notifications and turn that noise off
 
11:05 PM
@jadarnel27 Let me reinflate a bit.
 
\o/
 
11:23 PM
And why is this downvoted so much?—
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biterI tried to open an account in Meta Stack Overflow. When I was entering my password, it said I needed to choose a complicated password; I tried my best to make the password complicated, but it still said it was not complex enough. If I choose an easy password, is there any chance of hacking my ac...

 
@Mechanicalsnail Probably because people hate anyone who doesn't take password security seriously
 
@TimYiJiang But it's basically the same as a highly-upvoted question.
 
Yeah, I'm surprised nobody noticed the duplication
The context and the way a question is framed is important though. Not sure if a question asking about the importance of password security deserved so many downvotes though
 
11:38 PM
> Your refund of $86.00 was sent to your bank account as of 02/12/2013. Please allow up to 3 business days for the deposit to show up in your account.
It was sent 4 days from now?
 
Well that's pretty good turnaround, if you only have to wait three for it to get there.
;-)
 
I'm going to file a [grammar][bug] with them. :P Let me also find a [plurals][bug] too...
 
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