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12:45 AM
'Ello @BilltheLizard, what brings you around these parts?
 
@TimStone Hello. Just reading to see what goes on here. This room is pretty active, but I'm almost never in here.
 
Your sanity probably thanks you for that fact.
 
That's the second time today that my sanity has come up in an SE chat room. :)
 
 
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4:32 AM
@Shog9 Any particular part?
 
 
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7:43 AM
In answers to FAQ for stacks there's a minor issue with one of the fade-out highlights – one paragraph not covered (screenshot) … I wonder whether that paragraph was previously a linked part of the page.
 
 
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2:05 PM
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A: CRest log request / response body

user1536377this is yet another test post to test the stackexchange api

^ api is still read only right?
 
except for comments, yes
 
Hey everyone, looks like someone upvoted several of my SO posts, and today is my birthday! I'd love to hear and thank him, can a mod give me hint about who is it?
 
@CharlesB I suspect they won't quite see it that way
 
@Flexo mmh will they cancel the upvotes?
 
It'll be removed automatically
 
2:19 PM
@CharlesB they look obvious enough to get auto reversed overnight
 
aargh
fortunately I'll have other presents!
thanks anyway
 
2:50 PM
There are so many **** every single day in the Late Answer section
Hope that the more recent posts outside the Late Answer's range are not spammed with crap answers
 
@nhahtdh I think late answers sees most of them since older questions are more visible on google
 
3:04 PM
I just want to flag this as NAA. Is this NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/11697527/1400768
 
@nhahtdh don't think so
looks like an answer even if it's a bad one
 
I don't know much C++, but the answer doesn't seem to answer the question, which is asking about why some code works when it shouldn't
 
I didn't look closely, but I'd flag other and explain if it's like that though - it's not obvious
 
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Q: Help us clean up the Android tag

Bill the LizardWe have a bit of a quality problem in the android tag. Android ranks first in both unanswered count and unanswered percent among popular tags1 on Stack Overflow, both by a comfortable margin. Given that the Android tag on Stack Overflow has been named as an official Android app development Q&...

Compare the number shown in the post with stackoverflow.com/tags/android/topusers
Last 7 Days 52.7% unanswered
Last 30 Days 47.6% unanswered
Looks pretty terrible to me, to be honest
I guess the percentage drops after 30 days because unanswered questions are automatically deleted
But if you look at the stream of incoming Android questions I don't think I can see a single one that doesn't require some editing
 
android is on my ignored tags list
 
3:13 PM
It's not on mine, but it's not a favourite either. Since almost my entire homepage is orange I don't see much Android either
 
Not doing anything that has to do with Android...
 
Not that my current mix of question is much better
 
This looks like a NC question: stackoverflow.com/questions/685623/…
But if not on SO, then where?
 
3:35 PM
@nhahtdh on closer inspection it's technically (very) wrong but what they're trying to say is that C++ has no such thing as VLAs and you should use new[] instead.
so it's a terrible answer
which says far less than the existing answers
 
3:51 PM
@Shog9 as a format the video is pretty long - I can't imagine many people watching 100% of it if you make it widely available.
the human touch is nice but as far as mass communications goes it's quite heavyweight
In a way I still think WSIN was better for the poster than no feedback to go with votes at all and I think some people will be just voting and not comment.
I wish there was a way to make deletes or closes have more specific feedback (e.g. the "why was this deleted" is far less specific than the decision most deleters make)
(which would take some of the load out of good "maybe with some improvements this would work")
one of the nice things about pro-forma comments is it stores the URLs you want to mention and saves you having to remember them all.
 
4:32 PM
one thing that about mechanical turk that worried me: do the reviewers project a cultural bias on their reviews or are they really representative of a world wide audience?
ah answered :)
 
Anonymous
3 hours ago, by balpha
except for comments, yes
 
Anonymous
@balpha What did you mean by "except for comments"?
 
Hmmm, I don't think there is a write API for comments? Perhaps you can use the same ajax methods which the site itself uses, but those aren't documented
 
Anonymous
His message just made me double-check that API docs -- writing comments hasn't been added.
 
Anonymous
@TimYiJiang That could be it.
 
4:41 PM
maybe it's unreleased
 
tis in a beta phase
 
@RebeccaChernoff what's the intended use? Auto commenting bots?
 
what do you want developers to do with writing to comments?
 
Anonymous
I'm going to throw out a guess: they're going to dogfood the comments API when implementing pro-forma comments in /review.
 
4:44 PM
write support for the api has been on the roadmap, and starting with comments is a good baby step
 
someone could conceivably write a bot that follows up on stuff 2 weeks later for example but they seem quite noisy
 
@RebeccaChernoff At this rate the API is maturing even slower then your average baby :P
 
I kid, I kid (ha!), API 2.0 is very well designed and documented
 
with edit write access you could do things like bulk removing URL shorteners, but that's a dangerous road to head down
 
4:47 PM
the purpose of the api isn't just for batch automation
 
That's the most obvious one though
 
isn't that inevitable when write access comes along?
there will be a few mobile apps
and a lot of bots
 
@jeremybanks You just have to know the super secret obvious documentation URL, of course.
 
q:
I was going to tell them to go hunt, but I figured that'd be mean.
 
I'm already pretty convinced I'm a terrible person, so no (additional) harm done.
@Flexo Yeah, I figure the same...which is why the desire to add write access has confused me. Perhaps I'm just too cynical. :/
 
4:57 PM
I guess you could ban API keys that are being used for bots fairly easily
or add a flag that says "bot action, must be reviewed"
 
@Flexo Worth noting that the documentation already states that writing automated comments based on post heuristics is a punishable offence, so looks like they'll keep a very close eye on things to avoid that situation.
 
but I for one don't want to review 1000s of bot actions
 
It's also reputation-limited, etc...so not particularly easy to abuse with auth tokens from throwaway accounts.
 
I wouldn't mind a "auto downvote/vote to close" if there's been no activity since I commented feature
but that's hardly a killer feature
 
the limits present on the site will apply to everything through the api - using the api doesn't let you sidestep permissions and such.
 
5:01 PM
I personally think that instead of comments, they should have started with answers on per-site metas...Not uh, that I have an extremely localised use-case for that or anything.
 
@TimStone Is the link to a post's history in the SE modifications usescript broken? I don't see it anymore
 
@yoda You'll need to update the script, that's been fixed. Got broken when "link" became "share" :)
 
@TimStone LOL
 
Here's the link for convenience.
 
@TimStone ah, I see. Thanks. I didn't find any mention on its stackapps.com page, so didn't realize that :)
Thanks @TimStone :)
 
5:03 PM
Ah, yeah...I had mentioned it on another post and forgot to put a comment on that one as well. Thanks for the reminder, I'll do so now!
@RebeccaChernoff One of these days I'm gonna have some choice words for the rate limiter shakes fist menacingly
 
oy
it's just part of our evil plot to, uh, encourage you to get you involved in all the sites. you are failing, thus far.
 
I know, I was telling myself I need to become an expert in every topic in the week leading up to the Town Hall so I can give 50 reps worth of answers.
 
25 suggested edits.
such a slacker you are! q:
 
I'm so ashamed! Of course, one of the sites scheduled for next week is EL&U. I'd like to think that of all the sites in the network, they have grammatical edits covered.
 
rise to the challenge!
 
5:15 PM
Admittedly, I have a feeling my time will be better spent working on all that Data Explorer and election site backlog. :P
 
@TimStone @RebeccaChernoff *cough* stackexchange.com/about/hiring
 
Heh
 
Anonymous
@TimStone It's not at the obvious location... :/
 
@jeremybanks Well, it's about write access, in general
 
5:18 PM
see, I'd just go looking for changes, if it were me.
 
@TimYiJiang I uh...don't think that they could put up with me. :P
Oh right, I forgot that was updated too.
 
that search one has been up for ages
 
Anonymous
A-ha. :P
 
*cough*
 
I'm such an oddity that I'm my own position? Damn.
 
5:21 PM
Lololol
 
@TimStone Major Major Major Major
 
Hahah
 
SO needs another Tim Stone - probably that's what the hiring message means
 
You're a kind soul. :P
Ah, it seems CNN has updated its front page photo of the Chinese athlete who won the first Olympic gold medal. The original photo made it look like she was trying to eat it.
 
5:29 PM
* Trying if it is made of real gold *
 
 
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9:45 PM
Yeah. You never know over there.
Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs still owes me about £1000 in income taxes from back in 2000 that I'm never going to see again. Shakes fist
But then, I've illegally downloaded so many british TV shows over the years, I think we are about even.
 
10:45 PM
Speaking of illegal downloads.. It was pretty amusing today that a band basically advertised a huge german OCH download site on stage when talking about how they got the idea on a song - they not only mentioned the exact domain name but even what kind of stuff you get there
 
10:57 PM
My mom asked me to get her a Taco Salad at Wendy's. Why would you go to a burger joint to get taco anything? o.o
 
11:09 PM
I saw that Wendy's has chili cheese fries now.
 
So how can the OP actually respond to questions about his account if we try and help him / her? — Martijn Pieters 6 hours ago
 

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