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user200500
1:01 AM
They ruined the Add Another Answer button and I am really mad about it! *pout*
 
user200500
Reading back, I'm pretty late to the party, huh
 
Interesting
 
More CSS3 animation stuff! jsfiddle.net/25spx/1
Hang on, I forgot the webkit extension
I'm not sure how to get rid of the ends sticking out though
 
Anonymous
2:57 AM
discourse.stackexchange.com
 
Anonymous
I'll be waiting.
 
trolololol
 
@JeremyBanks Webapps. Sorry.
 
Anonymous
@TimYiJiang Jeff aspires to create "the WordPress of forums". He won't know he's there until there's a discourse.stackexchange.com as there's a wordpress.stackexchange.com.
 
3:17 AM
GAH!
 
3:40 AM
Ok, who broke chat?
 
Anonymous
3:54 AM
The same person who broke Stack Overflow, I expect.
 
4:31 AM
SE is going realllllly slow for me. o.o
 
 
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Anonymous
6:56 AM
Discourse seems very nice.
 
The UI is a little bewildering. I think they need a better way to introducing new users to all the features
 
honestly, I don't see that logo as a "D"
and when I see it in front of the text, I think the product is called "iscourse"
 
Anonymous
@animuson Yeah, I keep seeing it that way over and over again.
 
Anonymous
8:02 AM
You can cancel moderator flags on Discourse.
 
11:35 AM
So for once there's a post were an Eeeek! in the title would be fitting the meme, and it's not there.
I don't understand you, Meta.
 
'lo
Ben, is it possible that you're working on the chat system?
It seems to have fallen back to polling on chat.SO.
Apparently same here.
WebSockets seem to be stuck on closed state (3).
I know you're there @balpha. You just hate me. :D
 
hmm you're right
I'll keep it open with what you are right ;p
 
11:51 AM
:D
11
Q: Eeeek!! New black buttons look out of place!

dystroyI'm referring to those new big black buttons: Their high contrast and relief hurt the eye in an interface otherwise mostly soft.

Fixed that post for you.
 
sockets are back up, thanks for noting
 
YAY, thanks. :)
 
Gratuitous skeuomorphism yay!
 
 
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2:14 PM
Why is their a redirect loop here: stackoverflow.com/questions/777711/is-null-harmful ?
@balpha ?
 
> Is null harmful? [Duplicate] [duplicate]
no idea what's causing the loop but that title looks very odd
 
@ThiefMaster I dont see it... I get a redirect loop
 
The page is giving me 301 Moved Permanently back onto the same URL
 
i just copied the question id in the mod flag history url ;)
 
2:16 PM
Yea... when I look at the network tab on Chrome it keeps looping back to itself....
@ThiefMaster wazzat mean?
 
2:27 PM
Jeff's new forum thingadongdong website looks all busted in my corporate-approved IE8 browser on Windows XP. This is a travesty! Well...something about it is a travesty anyway.
 
@jadarnel27 Only IE10 is supported. IE9 is 'should work, but not tested'. IE8 is... well, good luck
 
@jadarnel27 lol Windows XP?
@Moshe ! what did you do?! nytimes.com/2013/02/05/nyregion/…
 
Hey guys
> You've earned the "Necromancer" badge for The Many Memes of Meta. See your profile.
 
@TimYiJiang Yeah, I read that too. I sort of assumed based on Jeff's repetition of phrases like "...designed for modern browsers and tablets..."
I was just off-handedly whining about my first world problems.
 
@ThiefMaster @amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Report it as a bug? In the meantime I'll roll it back to original - the edits there were mainly to add the duplicate info manually
0
Q: Is null harmfull?

idstamI dodged a heated debate concerning nulls in the database today. My opinion is that null is an excellent indicator of unspecified values. Every one else in the team, that has an opinion, thinks zero and empty strings are the way to go. Are they lazy or am I to strict?

And maybe, just maybe, it'll get deleted
 
Anonymous
2:42 PM
> Yes. The agreement with Stack Exchange has been settled (and vetted by lawyers). We're in the process of getting some grant money to make a MathOverflow legal entity, and this is holding up the agreement with Stack Exchange (the agreement is between SE and the MO entity). Everything is taking longer than expected, but things really are moving forward behind the scenes--I promise!
 
@BoltClock'saUnicorn hmmmm why the 301 then? well I cant report it now. Noone can repro it :-P
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Oh... shit
 
@BoltClock'saUnicorn ?
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Because then it can't be repro'd anymore :P
Until another question comes up with the [duplicate] tag
 
@BoltClock'saUnicorn haha se lavi. next time
 
2:46 PM
Which, then again, I'm sure there are many of
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA c'est la vie*
 
@BoltClock'saUnicorn ehhh idk french :-P
 
@balpha Do you actually know about our SO-ChatBot in the JavaScript channel?
 
@OctavianDamiean Well do you remember Eliza?
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Oh man. That takes me back
 
@BoltClock'saUnicorn Yea ^_^. Dunno why my meta posts abt her were deleted :-P
 
2:50 PM
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Yea, I remember Eliza. That was his own bot. :)
 
@OctavianDamiean ^_^
 
I'm wondering if Eliza was running as a service or as a browser script like ChatBot.
 
@OctavianDamiean Ehhh I think it might have been some browser script. But I could be wrong. You would have to ask @balpha
 
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA I'm not in Baruch.
 
@Moshe lol so what do you differently ?
 
3:00 PM
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA (find the typo in that question)
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA I don't log in. I doubt I've hit the CUNY server more than 6K times ever. They logged in millions of times.
 
@Moshe interesting
 
Yea.
Also, the most important diff:
They got caught.
I got emails from professors asking how I did it. :-D
 
yea
well
anyhow
gotta get working
 
@Moshe have fun!
 
3:08 PM
There we go, Discourse's source: github.com/discourse/discourse. Not sure how I missed this while looking through the site
 
meh, why does it have to be ruby? couldn't it be e.g. python? :p
 
@mootinator you kicking?
So, @WilW on Twitter got hit with this: twitter.com/wilw/status/298687886168039424/photo/1 (hell, you probably follow him so already saw it)
So am I out of line here or is this guy just an asshole? i.stack.imgur.com/Yx7Ks.png (note the claims to be canadian, and you know something about being canadian)
 
Well, you shouldn't have bothered
 
I smell a trolololol @BoltClock'saUnicorn
 
Seriously
I have a friend who always feels compelled to reply to anyone even weirdos on Twitter. especially when she gets retweeted by someone with thousands/millions of followers
 
3:20 PM
@BoltClock'saUnicorn I figger he's ignorant as feck at this point, but I mean, we should all be calling out exploitation, as Wil was doing.
 
Sometimes they end up in petty arguments
Like the one you were just in
 
@BoltClock'saUnicorn I left it alone after the last one.
So there was no argument
I feel like I berated him and he was a twat
 
He was a twat. You can leave it at that. Twats will always be twats
It's the Intercunt
 
I know, but ffs, exploitation is bad, no matter who you are
 
Yeah it is
 
3:23 PM
So does anyone have any idea how I could get rid of the 1px line left over after this animation is complete? jsfiddle.net/25spx/2
I suppose you could add display: none to the animation endpoints, but that feels like cheating (and I have no idea if it'll work)
 
or border-color: transparent
 
@TimYiJiang hmmmm opacity: 0; ?
 
display:none would work better than both of those options because it's a discrete change, so the user won't notice the change
(If it works, that is)
 
Oh yes, right. It does, however, delete the box altogether, which can cause layout issues if you're not careful. Use visibility: hidden instead
 
Hmmm, it doesn't appear to work if it's set in a keyframe
Looks like discrete values are not animate-able at all
 
3:31 PM
You mean they don't even change to that value?
OK, so that's where animations and transitions differ. I have little to no experience in both :P
 
Nope. Doesn't work.
99.9% { opacity: 1 }
to { transform: rotate(225deg); opacity: 0; }
This works
Kind of hacky though
 
I wonder if there's a better way of achieving the same effect
This was how creating a rotating meter in Flash is done - by taking two semicircles and masking them
 
Oh crap, speaking of Flash. I should be animating today
Tonight
 
@BoltClock'saUnicorn (or any mod around) do you have a few minutes to weigh in on a close vs don't close discussion in #php?
 
3:39 PM
@ircmaxell I'll be right over
 
thanks!
 
@jcolebrand Canadians have nothing better to do.
 
@mootinator too much snow huh?
 
@JeremyBanks I complained about the lack of SE oneboxes and Jeff directed me to this feature request :P
 
@TimStone LOL
 
3:49 PM
@TimStone Hmmmm, I wonder if that's highly useful...
I may want to add that to the plans for my site's eventual domination. I'm just not sure about that whole URL scheme as presented.
http://stackoverflow.com/oembed.{format}?url={url}
I have two issues with this: 1) oembed.{format} ??? Seriously? 2) Why the entire URL of the resource I want? Why not a server-localized URL (so skip the scheme and hostname)?
I can understand in the case of like flickr
 
Because lazy.
(would be my guess)
 
The onebox mechanism can still plug into other sources of data, like APIs, right?
 
Sure
 
Ok, so the spec doesn't require /oembed.{format} good
 
"folds" -> "folks" @mootinator
Well, if you eat a lot of bacon, maybe folds eventually.
 
3:55 PM
yeeeap
 
hey @TimStone which server is chat on? The SE server?
 
Hmm?
 
Because didn't SO hickup at the same time as SE last night?
 
Oh, I dunno. I was off being sick.
 
And I thought SO was on a different server than the SEs and Chat and Meta
@TimStone bah, foo on sick
 
3:59 PM
But anyway chat's on its own set of servers.
 
So how are you feeling today?
 
Eh, alright for the most part.
 
Josh said he's likely to be back up today, waiting on a replacement for Chef that should deliver.
Seems like they're saying one db took down all three environments. But I thought the entire thing ran on three different sets of servers, each being duplicated (which is another issue) so how did one server take down three sites?
 
Ah, that's good! Sucks they had to replace it though.
Uhh I'm still a bit too groggy to hypothesize on an explanation at the moment. :P
 
Take it you're not going to the office today
 
4:32 PM
ok, wierd, I can't add a new line on discourse
refresh fixed it, but ffs I know how to use a website.
can anyone repro? I entered a couple tickets right in a row
 
notsomuch
 
Also, the WMD is fubarred on discourse
 
I like how you can have the same conversation over and over every day on try.discourse.org
 
@mootinator trolololol
 
And it's new every time!
 
4:38 PM
I wanna help with this: meta.discourse.org/t/import-users-and-post-from-other-forums/… if only to encourage folks to move off phpBB :D
 
@jcolebrand OH HELL YES
 
Oh, all I need to know is the API is stable.
I'll start working on that and abandon my nodejs code for a while
 
@jcolebrand Wednesday is a home day, so it works out.
 
@jcolebrand i guess 99% of the phpbbs are running on crappy shared webspace not supporting anything but php
 
slacker
 
4:40 PM
I'm forcing myself to work now, so :P
 
At least I can pressure the owner of my crappy shared hosting into doing things.
"Let me out of my office!" "Not until you install Postgres and Redis!"
I can see that going well.
 
@ThiefMaster so, lemme get this straight. They can run PHP and MySQL and Apache, but they can't run Ruby or Redis or Postgres?
 
yeah, because usually all you there is FTP access
 
@ThiefMaster Aye, which is all the more reason to upload a homing beacon in some variety to all CPanel hosted environments and send out random tactical nukes.
Seriously, those are the devil.
 
indeed
 
4:44 PM
Someone remind me why I've not completed this documentation?
I know the reason, is because it's highly complex
 
5:04 PM
Anyone with 500+ rep here?
 
Everyone, I think (although I suppose whether or not they're actually here is debatable)
 
Nevermind
 
@ColeJohnson so it was a test?
Did I pass?
 
...
 
5:23 PM
Pick .sex, expect lag. — MPelletier Mar 4 '11 at 18:25
 
5:49 PM
I am curious what it means to have a legion of StackExchange users beta test and bugtest your software ;-)
 
It means not having to hire a QA team.
 
hahahaha
 
6:10 PM
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***jco*** - MASTER cheevos expert. I have *all* the cheevos. Be cool like me, be a cheevos god.

*Yeah, can you just come in on Saturday, that would be great* [[[LooksLikeSomeoneMondays.JPNG]]]
 
Yeah, reproduced.
Will take a look at the codez later.
 
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@moot Meddle not in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup [[[trogdor.GIF]]]
 
6:21 PM
Yeah, you can't. Just flag it.
 
SRSLY, how do we delete?
 
That iframe issue is going to cause regressions all day. Mu ha ha.
 
omg that's freakin sweet: meta.discourse.org/t/insert-image-preview-does-not-work-/1071 look at the "related questions" panel on the right
 
It's very nice that if you post a rickroll link it counts victims for you as well.
 
wut?
demonstrate please?
 
6:26 PM
If you click a link it'll track that the link was clicked and put a counter next to it.
For example, the "5" next to the link to the duplicate on your bug report.
Although it's a bit hard to read now, it got restyled at some point. |:
 
That's not a demonstrate
@mootinator I'm waiting on someone to yell at me now ;-)
 
O_O
 
this image is entirely unrelated to the previous comment
@mootinator that signature thread ;-)
 
@jcolebrand Happy?
 
6:32 PM
trololol no
you were supposed to keep it up
I feel like I should now go through and replace those sig blocks with more images and flashy bits
Reckon Jeff would get out the banhammer if I did?
 
@jcolebrand We'll find out.
Also, you should follow my link to that academic research for that demo you wanted. ahem
Yay!
 
@mootinator YES
oh dear god. Cheevos boy's thread made it to 13 pages
ok, now's when I find out if Atwood is going to murder me. I suppose I should warn him and Waffles ;-)
I give it an hour.
 
6:48 PM
Thanks for making my irritating signature look tame by comparison.
 
hehehe
also did you see the cheevos link?
 
yesm
 
7:03 PM
Interesting:
 
Anonymous
Ruby in RPython? This sounds interesting.
 
But it will still have the ruby syntax!
 
holy frack Kevin, you're still posting? :p
 
7:19 PM
@JeremyBanks hey - combine it with PiP, and you could maybe run Discourse on a normal web host!
 
not without a postgres-to-mysql abstraction layer
 
@jcolebrand It must not die.
 
Hi mods, no rep is being added to my profile even if I am getting upvotes in my ans. What is the reason? Please look into it .BDW I surpassed 200 rep today. Is that a reason?
 
@Mistu4u yes. It's called rep-cap
 
@Mistu4u Yup.
 
7:22 PM
So what would happen then?
Would they not be added?
 
@Shog9 Normal web hosts should just offer Postgres anyway. :P
 
@Mistu4u Right.
 
@Mistu4u it's called a "cap"
 
234
Q: How does "Reputation" work?

Justin StandardOn Stack Exchange, users may gain a certain level of reputation. What does reputation do? How can a user gain or lose reputation? See also Are there any voting limits? Maximum amount of votes a user can use in a day and reputation requirements to vote. How can I audit my r...

 
that means "a limit" in conversational English
This is to be compared with "ball cap" such as a hat.
 
7:24 PM
It will reset in a few hours.
 
@mootinator notice the link he posted was to ELL.se
@Mistu4u so this is one of those times where English has two uses for a word that are not related, yes?
A "cap" on the end of something is a limit. Most often used in plumbing, for example. You would "cap" a pipe.
In addition, pop culture has the phrase "put a cap in you" which would definitively end your life, but this is not the derivation of that phrase. (Just indicating that there are many complexities to the word cap so it's not unusual for it to be confusing)
In that case, the reference is to a "pop-cap gun"
"pop a cap in you" -> pop-cap gun.
So in this case, the rep-cap is the end of the reputation you're allowed to earn from votes in one day. You can earn more rep from "accepts" and from "bounties"
 
Having a cap popped in you does not necessarily end your life (although I imagine that's usually the intent).
Okay, I have a confession to make.

...I'm a robot.
I would say that I'm sorry to those hurt by this revelation, but I was not programmed to be sorry.
 
@jadarnel27 shall we be pedantic with those learning English as another language?
If so, come find a better forum sig than Adams :D
 
Are you learning English as a second language?
Also, that wasn't pedantic. It was accurate.
 
<!-- Edit too similar? Bah! -->
I do a lot of that thar on that forum site.
 
7:33 PM
 
Thank you everybody.
 
@Mistu4u you're welcome
 
It's like the arbitary restrictions want to be circumvented in a way they entirely don't on SO.
 
@jadarnel27 I wouldn't want you clicking links or anything ;-)
Who thinks Chronodekar has learned the lesson?
 
I can't tell whether you're slow, you think I'm slow, or you're just being a douche.
I was being pedantic with you, not the ESL fella.
 
7:39 PM
BROOOOOOOOOWN
 
@jadarnel27 He was still READING the page.
When we're discussing a specific word with an ELL, we shouldn't devolve into pedantic discussions, regardless of content. Specifically because of the audience.
 
How does this edit improve formatting?
 
@animuson it doesn't
 
@animuson thank you
 
7:42 PM
It did improvepunctuation.
 
The person was asking about the rep cap, and you sidetracked into a long ramble about the various meanings of the word "cap".
 
@jadarnel27 yeah, because "reputation" was obvious
Explain, please, without looking it up on translation, what haus means
 
I'm gonna go with @mootinator's answer from earlier: brown.
Well. His had more caps (capital letters). And more 'O's.
But I think you get my point.
 
@jadarnel27 Not really, those caps and Os had contextual meaning.
Someone not familiar with English might need a lengthy explanation.
 
7:51 PM
That's a good point, moot. Maybe jayco will flood the room with regale us with such an explanation.
=D
 
חום
3
 
Afternoon
 
Box-line-u
whatever that means :P
$Greeting $timeofday, though :)
 
@Manishearth It is Hebrew. What for, I shall let you all guess.
 
I guessed the language :)
It's a greeting
that much I can tell
The rest -- too sleepy to figure out :P
 
8:05 PM
@Manishearth Nope. Not sure the Hebrew wikipedia for it will be any help:
הצבע החום מתקבל מעירבוב של כמויות קטנות של צבעי יסוד כגון כחול צהוב ואדום. התפיסה החזותית של הצבע החום קיימת רק בנוכחות ניגוד עם צבע בהיר יותר. בשונה מצבעים אחרים, לא ניתן לקבל צבע חום מאור מונוכרומטי אלא רק משילוב מקורות אור או מהחזרה ממשטח בצבע מתאים. שימוש וסמליות * חום הוא צבע האדמה. * החום מקושר ל, כיוון שמדי האס אה היו חומים, והם כונו "החולצות החומות". צבע מדי תנועת בית"ר היה גם הוא חום וסימל את אדמת א"י. צבע זה נקבע טרם השימוש שעשו בו הנאצים. בשנות השלושים, לאור הזיהוי של הצבע החום עם הנאצים, הוחלף צבע המדים של תנועת בית"ר. * חום הוא צבע הכומתה של חטיבת גולני. * חום הוא צבעו של...
The sidebar may help in deciphering this particular page ^^^
 
@Oded brown?
 
@Manishearth Aye
 
Why brown?
 
@Manishearth Why?
28 mins ago, by mootinator
BROOOOOOOOOWN
 
8:08 PM
Thought I'd inject some proper international tones to the meme
 
8:29 PM
brun
 
 
8:50 PM
Does anyone happen to know how to make the Chrome bookmark bar show the favicon of the site rather than that stupid piece of paper? -.-
 
nope
I mean, I don't.
 
@animuson I didn't have to do anything for that to work.
 
I tried bookmarking a couple SE sites and it won't show the favicons :-/
 
it typically does...
 
Oh bookmark bar.
Yeah that works for me duh.
also
brune
 
8:53 PM
@animuson Which ones? Wondering if they use a favicon.ico on their root or link elements
 
Even google.com doesn't add an icon...
 
^ fix corrupted favicons file
 
Let's try...
 
Now let's turn this into a SuperUser question and roll around in the rep... j/k.
 
Thanks @Fosco
gives you invisible chat rep
 
8:56 PM
Welcome :)
the let-me-google-that-for-you search term for that was: chrome bookmarks bar not showing icons
 
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